Out of curiosity, what is the logic behind not voting standards? Is it so the results are more varied?
Yeah a bit, not that one ballot will make much difference. Also it's that I love a lot of things pretty much equally, and if I don't vote for Satisfaction it'll still make it, but if I don't vote for Ventilator Blues it probably won't.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 23 March 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
^ yeah, that was my thinking. pushed hard for the things i'd love to see make the countdown, but suspect won't. figure "you can't always get what you want" will do fine without my help.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
listening to Dirty Work right now & think what's hard for me is Mick's voice; he's more shouty than I'd like. The songs are fast & direct, Keith's playing sounds great, the melodies are sharp, but Mick sounds almost hoarse. It's the voice he has on "Start Me Up" too, but it seems worse here.
― Euler, Friday, 23 March 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
I can imagine their equivalent of "Hey Jude" failing to make it, like in the Beatles Poll...
― Mark G, Friday, 23 March 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't think I would vote for stuff like Satisfaction or Jumpin Jack Flash, but as I listen to them in amongst the things I think I *will* vote for, I've been surprised by how hard it is to say 'eh I could live without it'. Satisfaction came on while I was driving home last night and after I really took the time to listen and not just tune it out, I was saying to myself, 'you know, I've heard this song a thousand times but it's really fucking great."
I'm probably just being insecute. But like with the Paul Simon poll ppl are like "ugh these are the worst results ever" when popular songs rank more highly than the deep cuts. And it's kind of nuts to me. Paul Simon was a GREAT songwriter. He had a TON of popular songs.
The Stones are prolific. They're not a band that noodled around with only a couple of recognizable hits and left all their best stuff on 5 albums no-one heard. Half their material was popular, ubiquitous stuff. That's a GOOD thing! That's why we're still talking about them after what, 40 or 50 years. I guess I just get intimidated by all the deep cuts, like I'm going to be the rube voter who ruins it for everyone, lol.
I dunno. I'm tired, I need more coffee. I like the process and I love participating in the polls I've joined in on after years of lurking. I'll try not to get intimidated :)
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
fuuuuuuuuck talk about tl;dr
sorry!
"insecute"?
new word
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
Hey, don't worry - those should be the meat of the poll! I love it when the odd deep cut turns up unexpectedly high, but only when it's one I like. I guess I'm hoping that one day mine will chime with the ILM collective unconscious.
It has to be random though - worst thing ever was on the metal poll, where the #1 was this lurked block vote thing that a lot of folk had never heard of.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
like with the Paul Simon poll ppl are like "ugh these are the worst results ever" when popular songs rank more highly than the deep cuts. And it's kind of nuts to me...
OTM imo. Like, "American Tune" is deeply personally important to me, but "Graceland" absolutely transcends and there's nothing wrong with that.
The Stones are prolific. They're not a band that noodled around with only a couple of recognizable hits and left all their best stuff on 5 albums no-one heard. Half their material was popular, ubiquitous stuff.
I'm not sure about this. I'm still amazed by how many people in the general population base their entire notion of the Stones on HOT ROCKS. And you, like, give them a copy of STICKY FINGERS or LET IT BLEED and they're like "whoa, i had no idea."
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
ps and thank you for the tl;dr -- kinda hearkens back to the old days. ou sont les kogans d'antan?
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
I'm still amazed by how many people in the general population base their entire notion of the Stones on HOT ROCKS.
I have a feeling none of those people will be voting in this poll, LOL
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link
haha. on which note:
Taking Sides: Let It Bleed VS. Sticky Fingers
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
tbf hot rocks is one of the best greatest hits comps ever. xp
― tylerw, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
xxxpost that is a good point rog, re HOT ROCKS; Exile was the first Stones album I heard in full and it completely changed the way I felt about them after only really knowing their hits. So I take that part back :D
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i love reading long, thoughtful posts, so no worries, VG.
oh yeah, i never even considered cutting "satisfaction". for a while, i thought it might be my #1. emphasizing beloved deep cuts is one thing, but i'm not crazy.
and "insecute" is a great word :)
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
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― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
eh, there were people on the beach boys poll that pretty much stuck to the early stripey shirt hits because that's all they know. it's totally fine if people want to do that but i favor the "true heads only" approach
― buzza, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
re hot rocks: it's 21 tracks, and i love every song on it. cut any one song at random and you'd have a perfectly respectable ballot. only five of those tracks made my final cut, but i'm rooting hard for the underdogs.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
based on early balloting i think it's safe to say this is going to be a high-beta poll. might even be possible, when it's all over, to find at least two ballots with zero overlap. so go ahead and vote yr hearts and let the chips fall where they may.
but what the hell, let's talk deep cuts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oExTf5jIVoM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih5dbyZoIF0
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
i think the rolling stones are my favorite rock band. no one else really comes close in terms of quality, variety + quantity.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i tried for ages to find a way to cut "star star", mostly so i wouldn't have such a ridiculously goats head heavy ballot, but i just couldn't do it. love that song to death.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link
soundgarden not doing that song any favors
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
semi-deep cut under consideration for mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwu0MQrk_econe of my fave stones ballads. kinda autopilot stones, but great nonetheless. lovvvvve the "wish i was out in california" lyric.
― tylerw, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
^^ disagree on autopilot stones and expect it on my ballot. mick and mick really worked well together (cf. "Sway")
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5lMad5NEB0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRt3jJAT-NQ
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
damn youtube previews -- that's Lindsey Buckingham on "I Am Waiting" and it's quite lovely
xp well, by autopilot i mean it sorta seems like the band was like "wot, we need another ballad? alrightee." and then they knock it out of the park. seems effortless.
― tylerw, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
oh SHIT I left "Sway" off my ballot! ARrrgg!
― we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
winter's good, but it's the one goats head track i had under consideration that i did eventually cut. lot of stones ballads i like better.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, sway's better, and i cut that too, no regrets
"Star Star" in contention for my ballot; "Stray Cat Blues" vying for my top spot with "I Am Waiting" (which I didn't realize had been featured in a popular film until a clip was posted recently; the song's been one of my favorites for a long time but I'm not much for films)
"Sway" will be high on mine too
we are in the groove now!
― Euler, Friday, 23 March 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
deep cuts!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXLELdezjuE
okay, not a deep cut but come AWN:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqCrGnNXDI
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
I can play this game too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FhkS2r2dP4
― Euler, Friday, 23 March 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
going through the London years comp. man this band made a lot of shit. I mean there's tons of great stuff too but 50 years of shameless careerism results in a fair amount of detritus.
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 March 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M84FaMn6J9I
btw i'm not posting the KISS cover of 2000 man because it's a bit dire imo but if anyone can find the comsat angels cover of "citadel" plz post
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
are we really posting stones covers on you tube on the poll thread? people, please!
― Iago Galdston, Friday, 23 March 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
rogermexico must be reading my ballot by telepathy or else has tremendous taste
― Euler, Friday, 23 March 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
Am going to do proper homework for this one. Queued up Aftermath, Between The Buttons and Goat's Head for re-listen. I don't think I've heard Aftermath before. Treats abound!
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
i do congratulate cibbo matto for finding the song "why don't we sing this song all together" always wanted to be. only stones cover i can think of that significantly improves on the original.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
except with one less bee
sort of bummed by all these cover versions, because "2000 light years from home" is COMPLETELY GREAT, and while that monster magnet cover is cool in its way, it's not really doing the song any favors
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
"why don't we sing this song all together"
lol brain damage
[it's not really all that funny]
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
Sleeper off of GHS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrciVFFw3iQ
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 March 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
i do congratulate cibbo matto for finding the song "why don't we sing this song all together" always wanted to be
pretty much. the original isn't bad at all, but CM's version is an improvement/refinement
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 March 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
Aftermath and Between the Buttons are my favorite albums (like, ever) but I just couldn't choose between all of those deep cuts. so only 2 songs from each made it (not even that since Ruby Tuesday is not on my favorite version of BTB).
― gospodin simmel, Friday, 23 March 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
hell yes, highest-placing GHS track on my ballot
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
listen to "100 years ago" if you haven't yet
^^ after "Star Star" it's the only GHS track worth a damn imo.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 March 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
listening to Dirty Work right now & think what's hard for me is Mick's voice; he's more shouty than I'd like.
This is why I love the record: a pissed-off, impatient Mick feeding off the aggression in the riffs and rhythms. I don't think he's ever sung a lyric like "I've been caught in this tree of promises for over forty years."
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 March 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link