― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― OleM (OleM), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)
― OleM (OleM), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)
(Also "Mr. Happy" should be removed from my list and replaced with "Hey Vato".)
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)
85 Bucks an Hour Mike E Clark ... Mostasteless Composed by: Mike E Clark, Insane Clown Posse, Twizted
Bring It On Mike E. Clark ... The Amazing Jeckel Brothers Composed by: Mike E. Clark, Insane Clown Posse
Carnival of Carnage Joseph Bruce ... Carnival of Carnage Composed by: Joseph Bruce, Esham
Cherry Pie (I Need a Freak) David Payton Bizzar Chicken Huntin' Mike E. Clark ... The Ringmaster Composed by: Mike E. Clark, Howard Dodd, D. Greenburg, Mark Niles
Dead Body Man Mike E. Clark ... The Riddle Box Composed by: Mike E. Clark, Insane Clown Posse
Down With the Clown Mike E. Clark ... The Great Milenko Composed by: Mike E. Clark, Insane Clown Posse
F*uck the World Mike E. Clark ... The Amazing Jeckel Brothers Composed by: Mike E. Clark, Insane Clown Posse
Ghetto Freak Show Joseph Bruce Carnival of Carnage Hokus Pokus Mike E. Clark ... The Great Milenko Composed by: Mike E. Clark, Insane Clown Posse
House of Horrors Mike E. Clark ... The Great Milenko Composed by: Mike E. Clark, Insane Clown Posse
House of Mirrors The Ringmaster Composed by: Mike E. Clark, Insane Clown Posse
I Want My Sh*T Mike E. Clark ... The Amazing Jeckel Brothers Composed by: Mike E. Clark, Insane Clown Posse
Juggalo Paradise B.B. ... Bizzar Composed by: B.B., Mike E. Clark
Mad Professor Mike E. Clark ... The Amazing Jeckel Brothers Composed by: Mike E. Clark, Insane Clown Posse
My Kind of Bitch Mike E. Clark ... Tunnel of Love Composed by: Mike E. Clark, Insane Clown Posse, Two Dope, Violent J.
Nothing's Left Mike E. Clark ... The Amazing Jeckel Brothers Composed by: Mike E. Clark, Insane Clown Posse
Red Neck Hoe Joseph Bruce ... Carnival of Carnage Composed by: Joseph Bruce, Joseph Utsler
Still Stabbin' B.B. ... Bizaar Composed by: B.B., Mike E. Clark
Take Me Away B.B. ... Bizaar Composed by: B.B., Mike E. Clark
The Joker's Wild Mike E. Clark ... The Riddle Box Composed by: Mike E. Clark, Insane Clown Posse
The Juggla Joseph Bruce Carnival of Carnage The Shaggy Show Mike E. Clark ... The Amazing Jeckel Brothers Composed by: Mike E. Clark, Gangster Fun, Insane Clown Posse, Snoop Dogg
We Gives No Fuck B.B. ... Bizaar Composed by: B.B., Mike E. Clark
What Is a Juggalo? Mike E. Clark ... The Great Milenko Composed by: Mike E. Clark, Insane Clown Posse
Your Rebel Flag Joseph Bruce ... Carnival of Carnage Composed by: Joseph Bruce, Joseph Utsler
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)
― js (honestengine), Friday, 23 September 2005 04:35 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 24 October 2005 06:35 (twenty years ago)
I hear they are confused by magnets.
― The New Dirty Vicar, Friday, 4 November 2011 15:47 (fourteen years ago)
ithink they are funny and have some good trax sometimes and i dont relate them to their stupid fans that take them seriously and they are just really lucky i mean i like them better than BMRC, Trail of Dead n shit.― chaki (chaki), Monday, November 11, 2002 6:04 AM (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 00:49 (nine years ago)
I don't like any hip-hop but the mockery surrounding ICP/"juggalo culture" for the past decade or so always struck me as a thinly veiled excuse for upper-middle class white leftists to gawk at & make fun of poor people
― punksishippies, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:34 (nine years ago)
what's thinly veiled about it
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:34 (nine years ago)
What's funny to me is that a lot of people who got into ICP "ironically" because of "Miracles" like the group for pretty much the exact same reasons their actual fans do
― frogbs, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 22:07 (nine years ago)
Interesting article here setting out a defense of the juggalo subculture - http://thislandpress.com/2016/08/30/til-the-clowns-come-home/
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 22:38 (nine years ago)
i still 100% agree with my from 13 years ago, global tetrahedron. ICP > BRMC. Also the "wah wah liberals making fun of poor people" is kind of invalidated when you realize that Juggalos actively encourage homophobic and misogynist behaviour. Remember the Tila Tequila incident?
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 22 September 2016 22:39 (nine years ago)
I mean she's a nazi now so maybe that's invalid too lol.
https://www.facebook.com/INSANECLOWNPOSSE/videos/2116186811786336/
lmao this is amazing
― frogbs, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 21:40 (seven years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/N4P8gG2.png
― pplains, Sunday, 30 September 2018 18:06 (seven years ago)
Google doing some Soviet-style airbrushing of history here
https://i.imgur.com/Hoh9jcE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Z6tSqws.jpg
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 30 January 2020 14:05 (six years ago)
Agrammatical to boot. Truly shameful.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 30 January 2020 14:08 (six years ago)
wow just watched that 'snake busters' video frogbs posted and dying laughing, incredible work.
― warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Thursday, 30 January 2020 14:45 (six years ago)
https://movieweb.com/take-a-seat-insane-clown-posse-chris-hansen/
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 20:22 (five years ago)
why the hell not, i guess.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 5 August 2020 20:36 (five years ago)
It's 2020 and ICP are less problematic than many a beloved indie band.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 20:39 (five years ago)
just fucking wow at how accurate that statement is.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 5 August 2020 22:20 (five years ago)
Yeah, they seem like decent guys.
VIOLENT J: And the amount of gay Juggalos out there is really surprising. I think about them doing their research and getting the old records, getting excited about it, and getting their hearts broke or something, you know? I tell my daughter, “For the rest of your life, when your friends ask why your dad said that, say it’s because your dad was a fool. Don’t defend me. Say I was a fool then, but I’m not now.” There’s no excuse. I was going with the flow, and that’s the very thing we preach against — being a sheep. And that’s what I was doing.
https://www.stereogum.com/2083804/icp-interview-juggalos/franchises/interview/weve-got-a-file-on-you/
― jmm, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 22:32 (five years ago)
dang. the world def needs more of that "admit it when you're wrong" attitude.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 5 August 2020 22:47 (five years ago)
Being a good father really matters to Violent J:
https://www.thefader.com/2018/07/10/violent-j-from-icp-supports-his-furry-daughter-video
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 22:49 (five years ago)
sincerely curious if there’s a juggalx community
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 22:53 (five years ago)
About 1,060 results (0.36 seconds)
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 22:56 (five years ago)
amazing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42IsApbJzZE
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 23:09 (five years ago)
Nearly 18 years old this thread and no one has mentioned Insane Clown Posse yet? Now that's insane.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 6 August 2020 09:48 (five years ago)
Definitely fits the Clown Posse part though!
― pplains, Thursday, 6 August 2020 12:55 (five years ago)
lol how is it that Violent J handles dumb bigoted shit in his past better than 100% of all comedians
― frogbs, Friday, 7 August 2020 04:29 (five years ago)
honestly bless them
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 7 August 2020 04:38 (five years ago)
hey you all they're talking about bands whose fans were their own subcultures and nobody's mentioned these guys yet, you all should join this thread and up them!
Bands whose fans were their own subculture
― popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 August 2020 04:39 (five years ago)
I like how it's $75 to get Violent J or $75 to get Shaggy to do the video, but it's $175 to have them do both.
― pplains, Friday, 7 August 2020 12:51 (five years ago)
it's dialectical
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 7 August 2020 12:52 (five years ago)
you all should join this thread and up them!
Or we could all chip in on a Custom Clown Clip...
― jmm, Friday, 7 August 2020 13:14 (five years ago)
For five of us, it'd only be $15 apiece.
If we got ten of us together, it'd only be like $17.50!
― pplains, Friday, 7 August 2020 13:36 (five years ago)
this would be a great way to start squashing ILX beefs tbh
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 7 August 2020 13:37 (five years ago)
he could create a tutorial video for new users
"Hi - if you're seeing this, you've decided to join the community known as ILX. This was a bad decision, but don't you worry - Violent J is here to help you navigate these very choppy waters. Now...let's begin with our first module.
FUCKING FP'S - HOW DO THEY WORK?"
― popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:30 (five years ago)
Came across this exchange in a court hearing between a lawyer and an FBI agent, trying to work out the difference between boogaloo and juggalos. pic.twitter.com/p82h9nwqAU— Shane Bauer (@shane_bauer) October 20, 2020
― peace, man, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 19:15 (five years ago)
do they not?
they do not.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 20:19 (five years ago)
how J boogalooed it
― eat my room temperature ass (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 20:21 (five years ago)
fabulous, ty
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 20:36 (five years ago)
amazing
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 20:56 (five years ago)
Indeed.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 21:03 (five years ago)
what happens to juggalos as they grow older and lose their edge?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGdecP0eYqM
― budo jeru, Sunday, 11 December 2022 17:10 (three years ago)
aging juggalos feel the pangs of nostalgia, and surely there's an overlap between "i desire juggalo classics" and "give me 180-gram audiophile vinyl"
https://i.discogs.com/BnQmvbRt01xdDWlbuE7NLHcUUJZ1rRrigdEBRxmS7Nw/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:440/w:432/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTExMTE4/NTc4LTE1MzIxODM3/MjctNDc1Ny5qcGVn.jpeg
― budo jeru, Sunday, 11 December 2022 17:15 (three years ago)
It must be a cultural thing.
i think this is it. the incredible austerity of suburban midwest USA in the '90s
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 23 October 2024 18:44 (one year ago)
Actually I guess if you combined the best tracks from Bizarr/Bizaar into a single album, that would also be worth investigating
― DJP, Wednesday, 23 October 2024 18:44 (one year ago)
everyone always wants Kiss and ICP to be as good as Furr and they never are!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKYFQdSMoyw
― scott seward, Wednesday, 23 October 2024 22:58 (one year ago)
“Cold Gin” is an absolute classic, I will always love KISS for that one song
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 24 October 2024 01:20 (one year ago)
as someone ignorant of furr, too good for kiss, and a fan of 10cc generally, i may be slightly susceptible to furr
― sparkling hebroic couplet (Hunt3r), Thursday, 24 October 2024 01:55 (one year ago)
And yet the band has a passionate fanbase of fat men and tattooed women who wear unwashed t-shirts, and so they can't be completely worthless.
tbh most surface level criticisms of juggalos reek of classism, though they do make themselves easy targets with the clown makeup and faygo. i think they deserve some level of respect for being a contemporary american counter-culture where inclusivity and anti-racism are ostensibly part of their core ideals
as for the music, to me it's just a puerile version of early 666 mafia and your mileage will vary wildly depending on your tolerances for that kind of thing. DJP's recommendations are otm if you're curious
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Thursday, 24 October 2024 16:28 (one year ago)
yeah the interview with one of them - Violent J I think - where he directly apologizes for the homophobic lyrics - was really cool. because it wasn't just "oh I'm sorry if people were hurt" like it usually is, he really digs into it, kinda heartwarming to know that Juggalos can change and grow as people
can't say I've ever liked their music much, Great Milenko is a solid album at least and both "Neden Game" and "Miracles" still make me laugh...."magic everywhere in this bitch" is still one of the funniest things. SNL did a really good parody of it but nothing beats that line
― frogbs, Thursday, 24 October 2024 16:55 (one year ago)
"Well, given that they are from Michigan, you weren't ever going to get a lot of thick New Jersey accents."
I have to admit that my knowledge of the US is very limited. Until a few moments ago I didn't realise that Michigan was a state. I thought it was a city. And I've always assumed that white rappers in the US try to imitate this accent, in the same way that people in the UK try to imitate cockney: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFvL4obCrbQ
e.g. The Sopranos, because that's what gangsters sound like. Or at least it's what the Beastie Boys sound like, but as someone will point out they actually are from New York. You know, that video stands out not just for the accents but also for the complete lack of pity, which is something I've always associated with New York. The "fuck you, pal" quality.
I think the problem is that there's no UK analogue of the Insane Clown Posse, either on a musical or a sociopolitical level. The Prodigy? But they're musically much more sophisticated, and with a few lapses they give the impression that they're socially more broadminded. Altern-8 were cheerfully moronic rather than offensive. Oasis? Goldie Lookin' Chain? Furthermore the UK charts have never had a distinction between black and white artists, so there isn't much of a market for white rappers, besides which Adam Ant pretty much rendered the entire genre of white rap obsolete with "Ant Rap", and that was 1981.
― Ashley Pomeroy, Thursday, 24 October 2024 17:36 (one year ago)
"besides which Adam Ant pretty much rendered the entire genre of white rap obsolete with "Ant Rap", and that was 1981."
i beg to differ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Oi8iJH7m0
― scott seward, Thursday, 24 October 2024 18:32 (one year ago)
ICP and Juggalo culture are so easy to make fun of that it has been hard to resist sometimes. But I have to say the whole scene has always (from a distance at least) looked pretty friendly and welcoming to people who don't fit in easily — the homophobic lyrics are there, but my sense is that Juggalos themselves are queer-friendly — and overall there seems like there's a lot of sweetness there.
As this story says: https://www.papermag.com/juggalos-trans-joy#rebelltitem2
The first person I met at the Gathering was a trans woman named Estelle [name changed for anonymity]. She immediately offered me a bump, a hug and her life story. I ran into trans and nonbinary people of all stripes, as well as the accompanying chasers. An old-head juggalo carting around a wagon filled with nitrous canisters asked for my pronouns. I shotgunned Four Lokos with a bunch of cis dudes as we screamed “FTM summer” in unison. One juggalo even came out to me as demisexual.
“I assumed it would be a cis sausage fest,” said Cody, a 31-year-old juggalo from New York who uses any pronouns. “But it was clear when I arrived how many other queers and trans folks were there. I am hopeful that with the years to come, there will be more of us at the Gathering. We have the capacity to take over.”
In America’s heartland, trans and queer juggalos of all backgrounds have found a space to cut loose, find friends and be themselves without judgment. Though Ohio has been at the center of the attack on trans people, those down to clown have found an unlikely refuge, at least for four wonderfully decadent days. Juggalos call each other “family” for a reason: the festival feels like a massive, wacky family reunion.
― Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 24 October 2024 18:49 (one year ago)
https://www.avclub.com/violent-j-went-to-a-furry-convention-in-an-icp-fursuit-1830823096
Violent J getting dressed up in a fursuit and taking his daughter to cons is so wholesome.
― peace, man, Thursday, 24 October 2024 19:13 (one year ago)
furr sound pretty good! scott seward recommendations usually a safe bet. the cover, wow. like if you asked some really primitive AI programme to make a KISS album knockoff.
― this train don't carry no wankers (doo rag), Friday, 25 October 2024 07:47 (one year ago)
i think i appreciate the cover more than the music now that i’ve listened
― sparkling hebroic couplet (Hunt3r), Saturday, 26 October 2024 02:30 (one year ago)
somebody in one of the youtube comments claimed that record was just a dumping ground for a bunch of random Super K recordings from different groups, which would explain why the quality varies so much
― budo jeru, Saturday, 26 October 2024 03:58 (one year ago)
sounds like something k&k would do for sure
― this train don't carry no wankers (doo rag), Thursday, 31 October 2024 03:43 (one year ago)
I grew up in rural Wisconsin there were lots of Juggalos there, the main impression I get is that they're just people who wanna hang but have a hard time finding people who wanna hang with them
― frogbs, Thursday, 31 October 2024 03:47 (one year ago)
every once in a while i walk down the street and start singing "I know what you wear/you wear the juggalo pants/you wear the juggalo pants...". because i'm a big syd barrett fan.
― scott seward, Thursday, 31 October 2024 03:51 (one year ago)
Awesome.
― TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 31 October 2024 04:27 (one year ago)
My late FIL lived in Bay City, Michigan and there were always a TON of Juggalo sighting around that area.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 31 October 2024 14:50 (one year ago)