Bands whose fans were their own subculture

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This doesn't happen all that often,
but i'm thinking about acts like Insane Clown Posse, whose fans the 'juggalos' dress in a specific way and identify as fans of said band rather than simply metal or hip hop fans.

When I was much younger I'd notice tall skinny dudes with shaved heads and black clothes sporting NIN logos on the backs of their jackets. No doubt these guys listened to other music but it was always NIN and they struck me as a subculture in their own right

In central and South America there's a hard core of adamant Smiths fans who, again, identify as worshippers at the church of Morrissey.

Does this sort of thing still happen? What does it take for an act to transcend being simply part of a genre and start being followed like a cult with its own specific subject of fans who dress and behave in a certain way? Any other examples out there?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 12:09 (three years ago) link

KISS Army
Deadheads, Phishheads, Dave Matthews Band fans. Yes, all jam bands and probably more blended these days, but at least in the 1990s they all had distinct characteristics.

how's life, Saturday, 4 August 2018 12:19 (three years ago) link

also all much much bigger in the States than on the other side of the pond, strangely

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:00 (three years ago) link

are DMB fans recognisable as a fan genre

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:01 (three years ago) link

?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:01 (three years ago) link

milli vanilli
minor threat

calstars, Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:09 (three years ago) link

xp: eh, maybe less so than the other others I mentioned. I dunno. Definitely not a visually distinct look, except in contrast to other jam band fans. Our sobriquet for them was "whitecaps" after the white baseball hats that were common among their fans in the mid-90s. a "norm-core" vibe. I know they do have extremely dedicated fans though.

how's life, Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:26 (three years ago) link

could've just called this thread "Terrible people" and saved a few words

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:32 (three years ago) link

Throbbing Gristle maybe?

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:36 (three years ago) link

Parrotheads

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:36 (three years ago) link

Manic Street Preachers?

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:36 (three years ago) link

Parrotheads

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, August 4, 2018 9:36 AM (seven seconds ago)


^otmfm

RONG Blecch Limo Wreck (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:37 (three years ago) link

GWAR

earlnash, Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:59 (three years ago) link

definitely Manics in the nineties

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 14:00 (three years ago) link

The Cramps
Mothers of Invention

saddest kamancheh (bendy), Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:30 (three years ago) link

ahem

imago, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:44 (three years ago) link

there's no Cardiacs dress code* as such but everything else fits

*except for The Flower

imago, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:45 (three years ago) link

imago - Do you call yourself Juters? Gytists?

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:47 (three years ago) link

some good photos of numanoids here: http://www.numanme.co.uk/numanme/Numanoids-FAN.htm

soref, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:55 (three years ago) link

A friend went to a Manics fan convention in an exhibition centre in about 2000. The band weren't there, maybe Richie was, I dunno.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 4 August 2018 16:00 (three years ago) link

HAWKWIND's hawklords

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 4 August 2018 16:05 (three years ago) link

there was once this Bay area psych band "The Grateful Dead" had a small but devoted cult following

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 August 2018 16:09 (three years ago) link

imago I'm gonna clean the basement today and dig into the Cardiacs

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 August 2018 16:10 (three years ago) link

Nagomu Girls: coalesced around a label started by the singer of the band Uchoten in 1983, a post-punk, goth-girl fashion and music subculture that formed the roots of several later, more well-known factions, goth-lola, early Shibuya-Kei, Fruits magazine, that sort of thing.

MaresNest, Saturday, 4 August 2018 17:44 (three years ago) link

http://www.coltranechurch.org/

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 4 August 2018 17:47 (three years ago) link

The Stranglers

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:15 (three years ago) link

The Jam

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:15 (three years ago) link

Depeche Mode

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:15 (three years ago) link

Jimmy Buffet? They all seem to come from Florida and use Hawaiian shirts and flower collars.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:51 (three years ago) link

Oh wait, those are the parrotheads aren’t they? They’ve already been mentioned. Sorry.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:52 (three years ago) link

I’m pretty sure we have a dozen of those in latinamerica but I’m blanking out right now.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:59 (three years ago) link

radiohead

macropuente (map), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:06 (three years ago) link

sonic youth

macropuente (map), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:07 (three years ago) link

I wasn't aware of a Stranglers subculture- something distinct from early punk?

saddest kamancheh (bendy), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:09 (three years ago) link

yeah i think this is one of those things where there's really only a half dozen or so real examples, they've all been named already, and we should stop now before thread devolves to just "bands who have fans"

mortal kombats fill your eyes (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:20 (three years ago) link

the (early-era) who certainly fit here, no?

lâche pas la patate (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:24 (three years ago) link

Turbonegro - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbojugend
Black Label Society? Seems to be a lifestyle thing for a lot of people for some obscure reason.

Category: Animist Rock (Matt #2), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:33 (three years ago) link

Grateful dead

F# A# (∞), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:34 (three years ago) link

the (early-era) who certainly fit here, no?


I would argue not. Mod was a thriving subculture for at least a year before the Who (or/aka the High Numbers) started gigging. They simply latched onto (some would not-unreasonably argue exploited) mod.

Though it’s true that later mods — in Australia in ‘67-‘68, the “mod revival” in England in the late ‘70s, various pockets of anglophiles in the US in the early ‘80s — took the early Who as a jumping-off point.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:47 (three years ago) link

OTM.

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 August 2018 20:03 (three years ago) link

Afrika Bambaata

Siegbran, Saturday, 4 August 2018 21:10 (three years ago) link

Insane Clown Posse

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 4 August 2018 21:31 (three years ago) link

Bambaata/Zulu Nation is a really good example

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 August 2018 21:42 (three years ago) link

afrika bambaata ?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 22:11 (three years ago) link

afrika bambaata ?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 22:11 (three years ago) link

http://new.zulunation.com

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 4 August 2018 22:13 (three years ago) link

ADAM AND THE ANTS - even Darby Crash fell into it.

whitehallunity, Saturday, 4 August 2018 22:29 (three years ago) link

Slipknot maggots

Duane Barry, Saturday, 4 August 2018 22:39 (three years ago) link

Just breaking.

Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 October 2020 22:28 (one year ago) link

My only more personal interaction with a Juggalo was with a Juggalette in a small town in mountainous northern California.

We'd hopped off a boxcar the evening before, grabbed beers and food, and found a good place to camp by the river. But later that night, it began to rain, so we had to pack up all our shit and hike in pouring rain to an overpass, where we slept in dust for a few hours.

Eventually we wandered back into town, ending up at an oddly placed gazebo along the main street. It was still pouring, and we were exhausted, and then this young woman came up to us and asked us if she could help us in any way. She also asked whether we had gotten in on a freight train and we said yes. We were a little suspicious, but we followed her when she said we could dry off and cook food at her house.

Which was a small, bleak apartment in an old apartment building that used to be a whorehouse, in sight of the river and the train tracks. We were hanging out with her, she kept packing bowls of ditch weed and talking about how her kid got taken from her. There were lots of legal papers scattered about, and she had two very young kittens living with her. We had our stuff in her dryer and cooker up some chili ramen.

Then, she answered her phone with a "whoop whoop" and we knew immediately that we were in the presence of a Juggalette.

Her mom came over and asked us why we were trying to get her daughter to run away from the small town. We told her we were doing nothing of the sort.

Eventually, it cleared up and our stuff got dry, and we cleared out. We talked about her sometimes, the kindly Juggalette.

Two years later, we're at the hobo museum where we eventually lived for a while, but that's besides the point. She was there! It was near the town where we'd first met her and during a party weekend, and I recognized her immediately. She had a hatchetman tattoo on her foot. She didn't recognize me at all but kept hitting on me all weekend even when my now-husband showed up and we were being all gross and queer hobo.

Anyway, when we moved to the area for a bit and I worked in the grocery store in town, she came in while I was cashiering, and my co-worker watched her try to steal a bunch of supplements. So, the last time I saw her, she was telling me that I was cute but that my co-worker was a terrible cunt who could get fucked. Never saw her again, a lost soul in northern California mountain towns.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 4 October 2020 00:15 (one year ago) link

lock thread

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Sunday, 4 October 2020 00:30 (one year ago) link

i have to break character here for a second and say what a beautiful tale that was; and articulated just as beautifully.

lock thread indeed.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Sunday, 4 October 2020 03:47 (one year ago) link

yeah, that was a wonderful post. reads like a great short story.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 4 October 2020 04:38 (one year ago) link

wow. thank you table.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 4 October 2020 08:07 (one year ago) link

Good stuff table.

Ilxor in the streets, Scampo in the sheets (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 4 October 2020 08:45 (one year ago) link

Thanks for reading it. All true! Apologies for misspellings, I was a little drunk and typing on my phone.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 4 October 2020 11:34 (one year ago) link

That was a great story, thanks, but I went to look up the Hobo Museum and saw that it was in Iowa so I got a little confused.

Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 October 2020 12:25 (one year ago) link

https://www.bbcrc.org/

My husband and I were winter caretakers here, 2015-2016

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 4 October 2020 13:06 (one year ago) link

Fine tale, table. But

winter caretakers

Puts one in mind of

https://i.imgflip.com/2/4gtxd8.jpg

May you live in interesting Times New Roman (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 4 October 2020 13:59 (one year ago) link

This was the place where the two other people on the property were right drug addicts and one of them threatened to kill us. We were fine and having a great time up until that point

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 4 October 2020 14:12 (one year ago) link

marilynne robinson - 'juggling'

imago, Sunday, 4 October 2020 14:16 (one year ago) link

Do we have an 'excelsior'-like thread for booming posts?

emil.y, Sunday, 4 October 2020 15:42 (one year ago) link

Yes, and this was already posted there by Elvis Telecom. ilx posts with striking imagery

Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 October 2020 15:46 (one year ago) link

Also this, but not really for recent posts, according to thread title: Old ILX Posts Which Continue To Haunt Your Thoughts

Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 October 2020 16:06 (one year ago) link

Presidetn Donald John Trump

The Corona Virus

Insane Clown's Posse

Donald J. Trump

COVID-19

I.C.P.

Mr. Don Trump, U.S. President

SARS-CoV-2

Juggalo Family Gang

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 4 October 2020 17:36 (one year ago) link

Hello Im Barron Trumpe and I've got the Corona Virus. I enjoy listening to music of Insane Clowns Possee on my Apple iPod portable music listening device. My father is President Donald J. Trump and we have the COVID-19 virus inside of us. Thank for reading my message, good day, I am Barron Trumpe

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 4 October 2020 17:44 (one year ago) link

https://voca.ro/1oCsBKWgfg9Z

the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 4 October 2020 17:53 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

a recent revive has me thinking that a good example of this phenomenon might be Insane Clown Posse

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 21:07 (one year ago) link

Beat me to it!

pomenitul, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 21:09 (one year ago) link

Okay, the downside of this thread hijacking is that we have nowhere to discuss this topic.

So, in an attempt to get this thread back on the rails, I'll offer a non-jokey answer to the question (and frankly, I can't believe I'm the first to mention them): the Juggalos! (fans of Insane Clown Posse)

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 21:59 (one year ago) link

I understand juggalo, but then they do boogaloos?

pomenitul, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 22:13 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXg1AxBXN5g

Welcome to Nonrock (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 11:42 (one year ago) link

Ringo's response to "Honky Cat"

eat my room temperature ass (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 13:22 (one year ago) link

Have we talked about GWAR in this thread? A bunch of friends from elementary and middle school go to the Gwar-B-Que every year. It seems linked to Warped Tour and festival culture generally, but more bro-ey and also, Gwar.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 14:14 (one year ago) link

GWAR fans are called "bohabs"

eat my room temperature ass (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 14:49 (one year ago) link

I seem to recall GWAR have played at the Gathering Of The Juggalos - which, for those of you not 'in the know', is a festival to celebrate the music and personal grooming style of clown-based US rap act Insane Clown Posse, aka "ICP".

logout option: disabled (Matt #2), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 14:53 (one year ago) link

never heard of them

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:52 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

Insane Clown Posse

map ca. 1890 (map), Saturday, 6 March 2021 19:32 (ten months ago) link

From time to time, I drive past a business which uses its initials ICP on the sign. I amuse myself more than I should by imagining an office filled with Juggalos working in cubicles.

Ex Slacker, Saturday, 6 March 2021 21:51 (ten months ago) link

I recently found myself (sort of) explaining to a kid how magnets work, and had to spray out some imaginary Faygo.

stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Saturday, 6 March 2021 22:11 (ten months ago) link

never did learn how they work tbh

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 6 March 2021 22:14 (ten months ago) link

you want to talk to a scientist

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 6 March 2021 22:17 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, but the metaphysics of it all.

pomenitul, Saturday, 6 March 2021 22:19 (ten months ago) link

great revive

assert (MatthewK), Saturday, 6 March 2021 22:34 (ten months ago) link

ffs

pomenitul, Saturday, 6 March 2021 22:35 (ten months ago) link

i keep meaning to come back here and revive the thread for icp

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 6 March 2021 23:17 (ten months ago) link

What’s icp

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 7 March 2021 14:17 (ten months ago) link

Indochinese Communist Party, 1930–1945, a predecessor of the Communist Party of Vietnam

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 7 March 2021 14:21 (ten months ago) link

and i scream at the top of my lungs
"what's ICP"

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Sunday, 7 March 2021 14:43 (ten months ago) link

xp
bingo

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 7 March 2021 15:24 (ten months ago) link

I believe the fans are called buffalo's, because the band is from upstate NY

wake me up before you cuomo (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 7 March 2021 17:58 (ten months ago) link

Not to be confused with Ruffalos, who pay tribute to their idol by wearing rumpled T-shirts and jeans and rubbing the back of their necks while smiling nervously.

one month passes...

simply cannot comprehend that nobody's mentioned the Jimstein Clowman Posse

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 21:26 (nine months ago) link

seven months pass...

is the kiss army boomer juggalos?

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Saturday, 11 December 2021 20:33 (one month ago) link

this meme on fb says so

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Saturday, 11 December 2021 20:34 (one month ago) link

lol accurate

please don't refer to me as (Austin), Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:06 (one month ago) link

who are the juggalos?

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:18 (one month ago) link

Fucking love guns
Why don't mine work

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:28 (one month ago) link


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