Bands whose fans were their own subculture

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This doesn't happen all that often,
but i'm thinking about acts like Insane Clown Posse, whose fans the 'juggalos' dress in a specific way and identify as fans of said band rather than simply metal or hip hop fans.

When I was much younger I'd notice tall skinny dudes with shaved heads and black clothes sporting NIN logos on the backs of their jackets. No doubt these guys listened to other music but it was always NIN and they struck me as a subculture in their own right

In central and South America there's a hard core of adamant Smiths fans who, again, identify as worshippers at the church of Morrissey.

Does this sort of thing still happen? What does it take for an act to transcend being simply part of a genre and start being followed like a cult with its own specific subject of fans who dress and behave in a certain way? Any other examples out there?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 12:09 (one year ago) link

KISS Army
Deadheads, Phishheads, Dave Matthews Band fans. Yes, all jam bands and probably more blended these days, but at least in the 1990s they all had distinct characteristics.

how's life, Saturday, 4 August 2018 12:19 (one year ago) link

also all much much bigger in the States than on the other side of the pond, strangely

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:00 (one year ago) link

are DMB fans recognisable as a fan genre

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:01 (one year ago) link

?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:01 (one year ago) link

milli vanilli
minor threat

calstars, Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:09 (one year ago) link

xp: eh, maybe less so than the other others I mentioned. I dunno. Definitely not a visually distinct look, except in contrast to other jam band fans. Our sobriquet for them was "whitecaps" after the white baseball hats that were common among their fans in the mid-90s. a "norm-core" vibe. I know they do have extremely dedicated fans though.

how's life, Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:26 (one year ago) link

could've just called this thread "Terrible people" and saved a few words

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:32 (one year ago) link

Throbbing Gristle maybe?

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:36 (one year ago) link

Parrotheads

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:36 (one year ago) link

Manic Street Preachers?

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:36 (one year ago) link

Parrotheads

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, August 4, 2018 9:36 AM (seven seconds ago)


^otmfm

RONG Blecch Limo Wreck (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:37 (one year ago) link

GWAR

earlnash, Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:59 (one year ago) link

definitely Manics in the nineties

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 14:00 (one year ago) link

The Cramps
Mothers of Invention

saddest kamancheh (bendy), Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:30 (one year ago) link

ahem

imago, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:44 (one year ago) link

there's no Cardiacs dress code* as such but everything else fits

*except for The Flower

imago, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:45 (one year ago) link

imago - Do you call yourself Juters? Gytists?

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:47 (one year ago) link

some good photos of numanoids here: http://www.numanme.co.uk/numanme/Numanoids-FAN.htm

soref, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:55 (one year ago) link

A friend went to a Manics fan convention in an exhibition centre in about 2000. The band weren't there, maybe Richie was, I dunno.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 4 August 2018 16:00 (one year ago) link

HAWKWIND's hawklords

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 4 August 2018 16:05 (one year ago) link

there was once this Bay area psych band "The Grateful Dead" had a small but devoted cult following

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 August 2018 16:09 (one year ago) link

imago I'm gonna clean the basement today and dig into the Cardiacs

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 August 2018 16:10 (one year ago) link

Nagomu Girls: coalesced around a label started by the singer of the band Uchoten in 1983, a post-punk, goth-girl fashion and music subculture that formed the roots of several later, more well-known factions, goth-lola, early Shibuya-Kei, Fruits magazine, that sort of thing.

MaresNest, Saturday, 4 August 2018 17:44 (one year ago) link

The Stranglers

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:15 (one year ago) link

The Jam

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:15 (one year ago) link

Depeche Mode

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:15 (one year ago) link

Jimmy Buffet? They all seem to come from Florida and use Hawaiian shirts and flower collars.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:51 (one year ago) link

Oh wait, those are the parrotheads aren’t they? They’ve already been mentioned. Sorry.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:52 (one year ago) link

I’m pretty sure we have a dozen of those in latinamerica but I’m blanking out right now.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:59 (one year ago) link

radiohead

macropuente (map), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:06 (one year ago) link

sonic youth

macropuente (map), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:07 (one year ago) link

I wasn't aware of a Stranglers subculture- something distinct from early punk?

saddest kamancheh (bendy), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:09 (one year ago) link

yeah i think this is one of those things where there's really only a half dozen or so real examples, they've all been named already, and we should stop now before thread devolves to just "bands who have fans"

mortal kombats fill your eyes (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:20 (one year ago) link

the (early-era) who certainly fit here, no?

lâche pas la patate (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:24 (one year ago) link

Turbonegro - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbojugend
Black Label Society? Seems to be a lifestyle thing for a lot of people for some obscure reason.

Category: Animist Rock (Matt #2), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:33 (one year ago) link

Grateful dead

F# A# (∞), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:34 (one year ago) link

the (early-era) who certainly fit here, no?


I would argue not. Mod was a thriving subculture for at least a year before the Who (or/aka the High Numbers) started gigging. They simply latched onto (some would not-unreasonably argue exploited) mod.

Though it’s true that later mods — in Australia in ‘67-‘68, the “mod revival” in England in the late ‘70s, various pockets of anglophiles in the US in the early ‘80s — took the early Who as a jumping-off point.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:47 (one year ago) link

OTM.

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 August 2018 20:03 (one year ago) link

Afrika Bambaata

Siegbran, Saturday, 4 August 2018 21:10 (one year ago) link

Insane Clown Posse

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 4 August 2018 21:31 (one year ago) link

Bambaata/Zulu Nation is a really good example

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 August 2018 21:42 (one year ago) link

afrika bambaata ?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 22:11 (one year ago) link

afrika bambaata ?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 22:11 (one year ago) link

http://new.zulunation.com

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 4 August 2018 22:13 (one year ago) link

ADAM AND THE ANTS - even Darby Crash fell into it.

whitehallunity, Saturday, 4 August 2018 22:29 (one year ago) link

Slipknot maggots

Duane Barry, Saturday, 4 August 2018 22:39 (one year ago) link

crazy that it took so long for them to come up in this thread

the late great, Sunday, 17 February 2019 20:09 (seven months ago) link

yeah ... i mean, ICP are a really good example of this, thanks for finally mentioning them

sarahell, Sunday, 17 February 2019 20:23 (seven months ago) link

surprised nobody has mentioned that band that sprayed fizzy juice over their fans

Friedrich B. Neechy (Oor Neechy), Sunday, 17 February 2019 20:50 (seven months ago) link

the elephant in the room that everybody seems to be tiptoeing around is ICP

brownie, Sunday, 17 February 2019 20:56 (seven months ago) link

xp - i think you are thinking of Insane Clown Posse?

sarahell, Monday, 18 February 2019 01:13 (seven months ago) link

yes, that's them! Surprised nobody mentioned them yet

Friedrich B. Neechy (Oor Neechy), Monday, 18 February 2019 14:33 (seven months ago) link

I understand that their female fans are Juggalettes, which means that their children are Juggalinos or Juggalinas.

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 18 February 2019 15:46 (seven months ago) link

Mr. Juggalina, Mr. Bob Juggalina

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 18 February 2019 16:01 (seven months ago) link

lol

sarahell, Monday, 18 February 2019 17:53 (seven months ago) link

couldn't they also be Juggalosovs or Juggalosovnas or in Icelandic Juggalosdottir? Are there Juggalos in Iceland?

sarahell, Monday, 18 February 2019 17:57 (seven months ago) link

ICP are antispeciesist to boot:

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/juggalo-dog.jpg?quality=100&w=650

pomenitul, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:09 (seven months ago) link

Didn't Shaggy have a hit with oh juggalina?

Friedrich B. Neechy (Oor Neechy), Monday, 18 February 2019 18:18 (seven months ago) link

two months pass...

It's been a wild week for artists, journalists and fans, but a special shout-out to the B * S stans who reported the NYT music account for abuse for reporting that the group sold four collector versions of its EP to juice sales

— cganz (@mehpatrol) April 26, 2019

jfc the replies. I guess this is what Beatles fans would have been like on Twitter circa 1964?

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Saturday, 27 April 2019 16:40 (four months ago) link

OMG, you’re not kidding

Take a look what this NYT writer said about Taylor Swift when she did bundles and made her fans buy as much as 13 copies of ONE ALBUM to boost her sales. He described it as "Never doubt Taylor Swift". But as for BTS, he said "a canny strategy". He put her in more positive light.


I normally luv ppl ripping on the Times (as it’s often deserved), but this is bonkers

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 27 April 2019 16:49 (four months ago) link

All fans are terrible tbf

After Cease to Brexist (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 April 2019 16:50 (four months ago) link

idk Juggalos aren't all bad

sarahell, Saturday, 27 April 2019 16:55 (four months ago) link

... fans of the Insane Clown Posse fwiw

sarahell, Saturday, 27 April 2019 16:55 (four months ago) link

Oh I forgot about them, surprised thy weren't mentioned in this thread

After Cease to Brexist (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 April 2019 17:06 (four months ago) link

I completely misread that and thought Belle & Sebastian were selling their own juice, then I clicked on it and thought what has Built To Spill done now? Then I thought, wait, why hasn't anyone mentioned Insane Clown Posse on this thread before?

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 27 April 2019 17:14 (four months ago) link

Did the original tweeter write “B * S” in an effort to avoid detection, but all those stans found & swarmed him anyway?

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 27 April 2019 17:17 (four months ago) link

is this a place where we can say BTS are bad? bc they are bad.

be the 2 chainz you want 2 see in the world (m bison), Saturday, 27 April 2019 17:19 (four months ago) link

had to google BTS

buttigieg play the blues (crüt), Saturday, 27 April 2019 17:21 (four months ago) link

Bonkers Thespian Society === Insane Clown Posse

sarahell, Saturday, 27 April 2019 17:31 (four months ago) link

i have some stories about juggalos

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 27 April 2019 21:47 (four months ago) link

Fucking fan subcultures, how do they work? (See what I did there?)

pomenitul, Saturday, 27 April 2019 21:53 (four months ago) link

In case you didn't catch that, I was alluding to a song by Insane Clown Posse, who are particularly well known for having their own fan subculture.

pomenitul, Saturday, 27 April 2019 21:55 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

Insane Clown Posse

frame casual (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 12:57 (three months ago) link

Sure, but have you ever heard of the Juggalos?

☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 13:21 (three months ago) link

šílených klaunů ozbrojený sbor

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 13:25 (three months ago) link

And of course in Spain you have Banda de Payasos Dementes and their hardcore fans 'Los Malabaristolós'

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 13:40 (three months ago) link

Autechre's fans are essentially an autistic subculture. Oh, and don't forget The Grateful Dead!

I'll see myself out

octobeard, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 15:58 (three months ago) link

I See Pee

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 17:53 (three months ago) link

insane clown posse

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 02:50 (three months ago) link

Trans-Siberian Orchestra
Blue Man Group
ICP

beard papa, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 04:31 (three months ago) link

im sorry who is ICP?

hollow your fart (m bison), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 13:23 (three months ago) link

k-pop group

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 16:01 (three months ago) link

sorry again who is k-pop group?

hollow your fart (m bison), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 21:19 (three months ago) link

I would argue Fugazi

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 21:21 (three months ago) link

Silver Jews

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 21:37 (three months ago) link

Maybe a stretch but after learning they exist, people that still stan Sublime in 2019 must be considered an (admittedly, extremely tiny) subgenre, no?

Also, astounded that Juggalos haven't been mentioned yet.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 June 2019 18:07 (three months ago) link

Subculture is what I obviously meant, thanks phone.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 June 2019 18:08 (three months ago) link

wait how has no one mentioned ICP & Juggalos yet??????? They are the only true example left, besides Phish Phans I guess. but Juggalos are the only true subculture, Phish Phans and Deadheads going to see Bob & co. are more integrated into mainstream society.

flappy bird, Thursday, 13 June 2019 18:10 (three months ago) link

ha was just coming here to post about the gatherings of the juggalos

hollow your fart (m bison), Thursday, 13 June 2019 18:45 (three months ago) link

ICP has a subculture of fans. They are known as Jugheads.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 June 2019 18:52 (three months ago) link

Huh, Silver Jews?

All those middle aged men drinking white wine in the sun.

kraudive, Friday, 14 June 2019 18:45 (three months ago) link

Also. ICP. C'mon.

kraudive, Friday, 14 June 2019 18:46 (three months ago) link

there's one really obvious one that I can't believe everyone missed - Parrotheads

frogbs, Friday, 14 June 2019 18:52 (three months ago) link

They are not dressing as parrots they are dressing as clowns c'mon man

cwkiii, Saturday, 15 June 2019 01:22 (three months ago) link

why don't lambchop fans all dress like sheep?

StanM, Saturday, 15 June 2019 02:23 (three months ago) link

Remove Juggalo from this Thread

me and you and a resinous goo (seandalai), Saturday, 15 June 2019 17:31 (three months ago) link


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