ECM: C/D, S&D

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I've been really liking the four Gary Burton ECM albums that I have picked up in the past few months: "Passengers", "Dreams So Real", "The New Quartet" and "Ring".

I have also been suprised how much parts of Eberhardt Weber albums from the 70s sound like Tortoise.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 09:22 (twenty years ago)

Speaking as one who has now contributed for (tho not to) VERY NEARLY 200 ISSUES K- BLIMEY, I think Wire attitude to ECM has ALWAYS been very ambivalent. R.Cook was probably super-diplomatic — sometimes his genius, sometimes his crime — but the sense was that their success as a label actually somewhat occluded bettah-favoured Euro- indies like eg Black Saint or hat HUT...

I think that ECM's huge advertising budget may have been a contributory factor to that particular "ambivalence."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 10:37 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

The NY Times and a Seattle paper love the new ECM label album Arco Iris from Moroccan vocalist Amina Alaoui who performs old Andalusian compositions here. I haven't heard it but I am intrigued. Ilxer Sanpaku liked the Jon Balke & Amina Alaoui album Siwan that came out on ECM a year or 2 back.

I also just mentioned it here:
Arabic music (not elsewhere classified)

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 14:51 (fourteen years ago)

the other ECM thread

ECM s/d.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 14:53 (fourteen years ago)

Posted this on the Arabic music thread but its an ECM label album

Some of the Amina Alaoui album is a little too samey--melancholy nearly fado-like vocals and minimalist flamenco guitar strumming, but on other cuts her voice is exquisite and the instrumental work just lively enough.

― curmudgeon, Thursday, July 14, 2011 1:12 PM

curmudgeon, Friday, 15 July 2011 16:27 (fourteen years ago)

six years pass...

Is there a comprehensive digital repository for 70s ECM gubbins? Preferably not streaming.

The label has a page on Bandcamp but it's barely a handful of relatively recent releases so far, AFAICT.

Noel Emits, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 15:10 (eight years ago)

Boringly I think iTunes/Amazon are the most reliable. Qobuz have some lossless stuff but it gets pretty pricey: http://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/search?q=ecm&i=boutique&f%5Blabel%5D=ECM+Records#results

ECM stuff rarely turns up on streaming services anyway, the old album shows up for a short while on Apple Music and then disappears again.

I'd definitely pay for some sort of digital ECM subscription, either via Bandcamp or Drip or something - all new releases + curated back catalogue selections.

bamboohouses, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:02 (eight years ago)

there's tons that never made it to digital in the first place, right?

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:28 (eight years ago)

Pandora, oddly enough, has a decent ECM catalog.

Eazy, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 18:59 (eight years ago)

So ECM appears to have popped up on Spotify. So that's nice. Can't find Julian Priester, but Benny Maupin is there, and AEOC.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 10 November 2017 16:47 (eight years ago)

Only one AEOC album so far - Tribute To Lester. None of their 80s stuff yet.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 10 November 2017 17:03 (eight years ago)

Urban Bushmen is there, too.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 10 November 2017 17:30 (eight years ago)

And Full Force!

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 10 November 2017 17:32 (eight years ago)

Not in the US, at least not yet.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 10 November 2017 17:33 (eight years ago)

Well whaddya know, loads of ECM stuff on Apple Music in the UK now too. Hooray!

bamboohouses, Friday, 10 November 2017 17:48 (eight years ago)

I said preferably NOT streaming damnit, Manfred.

Noel Emits, Friday, 10 November 2017 18:04 (eight years ago)

I wish someone would do an exploratory ECM back catalog blog like the Kranky one a from few years back.

MaresNest, Sunday, 12 November 2017 15:12 (eight years ago)

US Spotify now has Nice Guys, Urban Bushmen, and The Third Decade up, as well as Lester Bowie's All The Magic!/The One and Only and Works, and Roscoe Mitchell's Nine to Get Ready, Composition/Improvisation Nos. 1, 2 & 3, Far Side and Bells For the South Side.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 12 November 2017 15:20 (eight years ago)

two weeks pass...

God dammit, Eberhard Weber's early records are so beautiful, I've had a couple kicking around for years but never afforded them the proper attention, what a fool.

The Colours Of Chloë might just be the most ECM-y record of all.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 23:37 (eight years ago)

good call, I was just thinking of something to stream right now.

calzino, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 23:45 (eight years ago)

I wonder if Joni was paying attention, some of Don Juan's Reckless Daughter is very reminiscent of Weber's music.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 23:49 (eight years ago)

I started this rather unsuccessful topic some while back.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 00:18 (eight years ago)

four months pass...

Nik Bärtsch's RONIN have a new album out.

calzino, Monday, 2 April 2018 19:31 (eight years ago)

What is his best album?

calstars, Monday, 2 April 2018 20:46 (eight years ago)

I'm undecided on that but I loved his last one Continuum, and I think both Stoa and Holon are A+. I haven't listened to his band for a while tbh. Luckily ECM are streaming now so it's easy to access his music. Although he looks disturbingly like a shaved barl-head Tony Blair - I don't judge ppl on looks!

calzino, Monday, 2 April 2018 20:57 (eight years ago)

He also looks disconcertingly like the singer form Disturbed

Continuum is amazing and I'll probably buy this new one

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 2 April 2018 21:25 (eight years ago)

three months pass...

^^^ This album is Awase Amaze.

Tim F, Friday, 13 July 2018 08:58 (seven years ago)

yep!

calzino, Friday, 13 July 2018 09:53 (seven years ago)

this band/composer are so consistently good, they've never put out anything less than A+ imo.

calzino, Friday, 13 July 2018 09:55 (seven years ago)

Listened to Albanian jazz vocalise Elina Duni last weekend, really good. First vocalist on ECM or am I missing any?

... (Eazy), Friday, 13 July 2018 15:02 (seven years ago)

Anettete Peacock, Meredith Monk just off the top of my head

Ward Fowler, Friday, 13 July 2018 15:05 (seven years ago)

lol Annette

Ward Fowler, Friday, 13 July 2018 15:05 (seven years ago)

June Tabor released at least one album on ECM!

omar little, Friday, 13 July 2018 15:26 (seven years ago)

oh, there are literally loads of vocal albums.

calzino, Friday, 13 July 2018 15:32 (seven years ago)

Thanks - I've missed these!

... (Eazy), Friday, 13 July 2018 15:32 (seven years ago)

SEARCH - Eberhard Weber Later That Evening 1982

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 26 July 2018 22:03 (seven years ago)

SEARCH — Eberhard Weber all

(V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Thursday, 26 July 2018 22:17 (seven years ago)

searching that rn sounds great!

niels, Friday, 27 July 2018 07:25 (seven years ago)

As mentioned by others, Elina Duni is not the first vocalist on ECM by a long shot, though she is certainly a fine one. But one ECM vocalist I feel has been overlooked, and could have been a breakout star like Duni, is Cymin Samawatie. She and her band Cyminology have recorded three fine albums on ECM, but they do not seem to have gotten much attention beyond Germany.

Melomane, Sunday, 29 July 2018 18:37 (seven years ago)

three weeks pass...

really feeling new Tord Gustavsen album tonight, sort of textbook downbeat, bluesy ECM piano trio classicism, but quite powerful and moving stuff.

calzino, Monday, 20 August 2018 19:19 (seven years ago)

thanks for the recommendation, sounds very good indeed

niels, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 08:32 (seven years ago)

Happy he's returned to the trio format. Did not enjoy What Was Said at all.

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 13:09 (seven years ago)

Been listening to Rainer Bruninghaus' 'Continuum' from 1984 while working this week, it's a nimble and kinda spindly, looking out the window with nothing to do on a rainy day, sounding record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ooEv70T0oY

MaresNest, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 18:17 (seven years ago)

Eicher put together this tribute to Tomasz Stanko:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOJ4KJz97xo

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 18:39 (seven years ago)

Wonderful album, thanks for the recommendation. Unobtrusive, subtle music to daydream and look out of the window to. I think it would also be great to write existential love letters to.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 19:00 (seven years ago)

I meant the Brüninghaus album...

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 19:00 (seven years ago)

Listening to the Brüninghaus album right now. It's absolutely gorgeous.

I've only dipped a couple of toes into EM, but this is my favourite era - whether the tonal palette started to get fleshed out a little with synths and digital reverb units.

Has this ever been discussed? Total banger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX6-pNcJqko

bamboohouses, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 11:48 (seven years ago)

* dipped a couple of toes into ECM, obviously.

bamboohouses, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 11:49 (seven years ago)

That's great, Isham only made one record for ECM?

I feel a bit of an early/mid-eighties rabbit hole coming on, see if I can find some more records with that integrated synth feel.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 12:00 (seven years ago)

He played on a few other records, but this is his only album as a leader.
https://www.ecmrecords.com/artists/1435045855/mark-isham

Would love some recommendations of other synthy titles.

bamboohouses, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 12:36 (seven years ago)

The opening of Dawn Dance immediately recalls Yes (And You And I) and I think I hear too many influences (oriental, flamenco) to make it work for me, also the rhythm is a little off to me.

Nabozo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:56 (two years ago)

one month passes...

Really loving Marc Johnson's solo bass record 'Overpass', maybe the solo bass record I've ever heard (out of not very many, I suppose).

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 7 June 2024 17:26 (two years ago)

Obsessed (I'd like to post other tracks but only a couple are on youtube, the whole record is streaming though)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNdB8szK9Rk

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 18:31 (one year ago)

one month passes...

Just discovered this 1989 album by AM4, not on YouTube but on streaming channels: wild mix of spoken word, soprano saxes, and piano (prepared and otherwise). Feels like performance art, kind of like Meredith Monk. Enjoying it a lot, including their version of Ornette Coleman' "Lonely Woman."

Wolfgang Puschnig
Alto Saxophone, Alto Flute, Hojak, Shakuhachi

Linda Sharrock
Vocals

Uli Scherer
Piano, Prepared Piano, Keyboards

the possibility of relaxing (Eazy), Thursday, 18 July 2024 22:03 (one year ago)

I just realized there are samples on that ECM page linked above ^^. The opening track is super quiet until about 30 seconds in.

Also just listened to that Marc Johnson track Jordan posted. So good too.

the possibility of relaxing (Eazy), Thursday, 18 July 2024 22:44 (one year ago)

Linda Sharrock

sold

Deflatormouse, Sunday, 21 July 2024 17:56 (one year ago)

Eazy if you haven't heard that "Paradise" LP she did with Sonny and Ilhan Mimaroglu get it now :)

Deflatormouse, Sunday, 21 July 2024 17:58 (one year ago)

The opening track is super quiet until about 30 seconds in.

okay wow

if you turn it up to where you can just hear what's going on, the sax when it enters will scar you for life

holy shit

Deflatormouse, Sunday, 21 July 2024 18:04 (one year ago)

also this is awesome TY

Deflatormouse, Sunday, 21 July 2024 18:06 (one year ago)

ok not sure anything else on this lives up to the first track
i like it don't get me wrong

Deflatormouse, Sunday, 21 July 2024 19:17 (one year ago)

Flagging that Paradise LP to listen to soon - thanks! And yeah, the first song ("Streets and Rivers") really is the standout.

Only Built 4 Cuban/Rock '24 (Eazy), Sunday, 21 July 2024 21:22 (one year ago)

Paradise is incredible

Cognosc in Tyrol (emsworth), Monday, 22 July 2024 00:10 (one year ago)

four months pass...

I'm on my biannual 'Bennie Maupin's *Jewel in the Lotus* is on ECM!' reconnaissance. What a record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4nWCNerR7c

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 6 December 2024 20:21 (one year ago)

Love that one of Maupin's credits is 'reeds'. Flex.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 6 December 2024 20:22 (one year ago)

I've listened to a few Rypdal records, very intriguing but he can get a little abstract for me.

Now I've got around to the expanded Odyssey reissue and this is a lot more full-bodied (or "rock", maybe) than his previous records. Despite the tracks mostly being very, very long they seem more vital than a lot of the other stuff of his I've heard.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 7 December 2024 18:39 (one year ago)

It's not on ECM but Maupin's follow-up record Slow Traffic to the Right is an intelligent compromise between some of the virtues of Jewel in the Lotus and the commercial/easy-listening/funky tendencies of the era.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 7 December 2024 18:41 (one year ago)

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMIkv0-aQdk

Maresn3st, Friday, 9 January 2026 21:28 (five months ago)

Posted in the obituary thread, but RIP guitarist Ralph Towner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6FNcN7KXRU

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 January 2026 21:05 (four months ago)

bummer, i had matchbook with gary burton for a while and enjoyed it. from the obit thread:

Oh man, I've been listening to so much Ralph Towner over the last 5 years. He has tons of good stuff on ECM.

― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Sunday, January 18, 2026 10:52 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

does anyone have a good recommendation or two?

map, Monday, 19 January 2026 19:35 (four months ago)

I like the group alb Solstice and the self-explanatory Solo Concert - I could go with a good guide to the Oregon stuff myself...

Ward Fowler, Monday, 19 January 2026 19:54 (four months ago)

Second the Solstice album, but I was more into his work with Oregon tbh. The recent archival “1974” live album is really good.

Also watched the Live at Molde Jazz 1975 set on YouTube twice today, so good.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 19 January 2026 21:45 (four months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m7VIHR9lYk

Aforementioned 1975 show, such a treat and love the attentive, beautiful looking Norwegian crowd.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 14:36 (four months ago)


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