ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL

ahh that's novel.

haha whiney

lol good zing

sonned by "chairfuckers union" and "TTDeej" :(

seems over for some dude

it's only annoying cuz tyler's so aggressively EMO about it, not only using life-pain as explanation/justification for his transgressions, but treating it as an interesting end in itself. though i think goblin pays off, i don't find tyler's (post) teen angst half as compelling as he seems to.

agree w/ lilsoul on the perils of "plodding", but it's hard to resist critiquing the album that way now that the idea's out there. "goblin" (the title track) is both a mission statement and a dare in that regard, dragging out a fairly simple idea & soundscape so that you get some time to settle in with the aesthetic. bored me at first, but i've come to like it. "yonkers" and "radicals" keep the energy up through what i think of as Side One. great opening.

Side Two, in my mind, runs from "she" through "tron cat", and again, it works well, balancing downtempo beats with melodic hooks ("she"), crass jokes and dense, skillful rapping (especially on "nightmare" and "tron cat"). "nightmare" strikes me as the album's centerpiece, placing horror's emphasis not on cartoonish transgressions, but on a realistically pitched, if overwrought, self portrait. hard not to be reminded here of kanye's MBDTF, both in the relentless focus on an inner landscape, and in the use of that landscape to cynically beg indulgence for misbehavior.

Side Three begins to bottom out a bit, not terribly, but the run from "her" through "analog" is salvaged mostly by "sandwiches" (an album standout). "her" isn't bad, though it retreads "she" less successfully (no frank ocean hook).

and i hit a wall in the closing stretch. "bitch suck dick", though the joke is plainly obvious, just about did me in the first time through. finally found all the cartoon misogyny simply misogynist and gross and unfunny at that. it left a bad taste, is what i mean, and in its wake, 8 fucking minutes of molasses-paced "window" lost me. after living with the album for a few days, though, i've come to terms. i mean, i can't claim i'm not here, in part, for straight-up "shock value." i am. and if you're in it for the shocks, how can you claim to be offended by such trivial provocations? i caught feelings, lol.

in its defense, "bitch suck dick" brings some hi-energy chaos to what would otherwise be an unbroken, late-album slog, and it's clear that what i'm calling Side Four is intended as a conceptual summary statement, like side four of the wall, where the narrator's madness finally overtakes him completely and reality crumbles. you get the unbridled psychotic id on "bitch suck dick", an intervention collapsing into mass murder in "window", a comically out-to-lunch musical interlude ("AU79", like a brain set to an dead channel), and a final "tear down the wall" exclamation point in "golden". not sure it was all necessary, but the narrative carries me through where the music wanders, a happy fate for any concept album.

taken as songs, there are probably only about 8 tracks here that completely work for me, but taken as an album (and that's clearly the intent), it all pretty much works. i like it.

started off there referring to this (as "it"):

rapping about hating fame when you're barely famous/not famous is as a part of rap as at this point as beats, so it really doesn't bother me even tho it is pretty stupid

ZYPHEREAL: sorry for blogging

^this needs to be attached as a signature to all contenderizer posts

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/may/08/odd-future-tyler-creator-rape

Another Guardian / Observer piece on Tyler today. The suggestion that nobody has heard Goblin yet's a strange one. It's interesting that neither of the articles were written by the paper's more regular hip-hop contributors.

presumably it was written before the album leaked like 2 days ago?

it's interesting that neither of the articles were written by the paper's more regular hip-hop contributors.

not if you remember who listens to these guys' music

its interesting that that article is condescending garbage

if only tyler would realize how smart he is!!

Odd Future's defenders argue that they're mocking white hipster expectations of black culture, or satirising rather than perpetuating hip-hop's ugliest recesses.

has anyone said this? because if they have, i've missed it

"As slogans go, "Kill people burn shit fuck school" doesn't exactly have the political freight of "fight the power", but Odd Future do, nonetheless, deserve to be spoken of in the same breath as Public Enemy"

the thread for the guardian is Is the Guardian worse than it used to be? for a reason

lol at "related information" link at bottom of page

Simon Reynolds's Notes on the noughties: When will hip-hop hurry up and die?

this needs to be attached as a signature to all contenderizer posts

― n/as (J0rdan S.), Saturday, May 7, 2011 2:45 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

*gunshot*

sorry

It really didn't bother me, but just confusing considering how he wavers between "I want to have creative control and fuck the mainstream" and "I want to win Grammy's and MTV Awards." It's like dude make up your mind on what you want to do because the way the music climate is it's almost impossible to hold on to both ideals.

― lilsoulbrother, Saturday, May 7, 2011 1:59 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

ummm...

i'm a fucking walking paradox, no i'm not

stand for something, get money n___a

stand for what the fuck you believe in
and don't let nobody tell you can't do what the fuck you want
i'm a fuckin unicorn, and fuck anybody who say i'm not

i'm not a rapper nor a rapist nor a racist
i fuck bitches with no permission and tend to hate shit
and brag about the actions in a rhyming pattern madder

in some kanye west glasses screaming out, "fuck faggots"
catch me in my attic taking photos of my dad's dick

Yes I know the whole paradox thing is part of Tyler's shtick. I'm just saying the paradox thing can get grating.

jsmooth995:

A brief summary of the lyrical themes explored on Tyler the Creator’s “Goblin”:

* 1. Feeling emo makes me want to be provocative.

* 2. Why are people provoked whenever I say something provocative? This is so unfair and makes me feel emo.

* 3. Repeat step one.

lol

noyce

sonned by "chairfuckers union" and "TTDeej" :(

― lilsoulbrotherlovesdubplatestyle (some dude), Saturday, May 7, 2011 5:22 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

is D-40's basically "Trained To Deej" if so, my dn is honestly playing in a different league than both of yours, no shots

as an impartial party, i can assure you that it's not

wow you guys will just get into it over anything

xp

xpost, honestly can you even explain my display name?

no & i can still tell you that it's sub-table is the table

cool, tell me more about a joke you don't get. sit down.

oh it's a Low pun! well that changes everything

also, forks wants to fuck chairs

well now i really have to take a step back

unlike the other two, it at least combines a reference and an ilx meme, which, uh, is basically the premise of your officially unfinested dn if you didn't notice

unfinested by the very person it pays tribute to. that's like radiohead pulling their peter gabriel cover after hearing PG's shitty version of their song

your dn involves something that forksclovetofu said, i'm assuming, on the ws thread -- by definition, you lose

talking about life now

get on my level

http://www.soulstrut.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/GetOnMyComp_gm.jpg

O_O

pulling their peter gabriel cover after hearing PG's shitty version of their song

ha i never heard abt this

j0rdan, get on AIM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6df0rha_Opw

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_AxBvyEAebkY/SjgY_3AvAYI/AAAAAAAAAFY/VN4uH7vScLU/s320/salute.jpg

also, lol @ lupe fiasco's racial harmony "fantasy" song where eminem inspires a black MC to start rapping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTkhBqvuLHM

what the fuck happened in this thread

i dont think ttdeej is a dope dn or anything but it made me lightweight chuckle when i thought of it

thread got funny

what the fuck happened in this thread

the same fucking thing that happens on every thread where you whiney and some dude start stressing about each others relative dick sizes

"my dn is honestly playing in a different league than both of yours, no shots"

new board description

I would like to point out my dn has been awesome in this thread

the same fucking thing that happens on every thread where you whiney and some dude start stressing about each others relative dick sizes

― gr8080, Sunday, May 8, 2011 7:38 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

hey in my defense i packed up my dick and left when i saw the ruler