has anyone actually listened to van's live astral weeks from a few year's back? i never did. was a little bit afraid to.
― tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:09 (fifteen years ago)
(also seems like there should be a veedon fleece poll?)
― tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:10 (fifteen years ago)
I so OD'd on Moondance - my friend's mom played that album like 10x/day while I was living at their house when I was 19 and it's been poisoned forever for me since as the soundtrack to middleclass lefty pretensions to artsiness. Astral Weeks, predictably, is my alltime album & at various points I might have been tempted to rep for "Beside You" or "Cyprus Avenue". "TB Sheets" is also amazing, but it's "Madame George" (in both its 'introverted' [Astral Weeks] and 'extroverted' [Bang Records] versions) that never loses its magic for me. I keep it under a rock for special occasions - probably never listen to either version more than once a year anymore - to protect its aura, tho.
Haven't ventured into too much of his career after Moondance though this thread is piquing my interest & reminding me how great he was when he was great.
Listening to the Bang material and Astral Weeks as Van's working-out of his coming-of-age experiences is an interesting exercise - there's something behind all those songs that remains just out of reach & operates them from behind the scenes.
The live Astral Weeks is execrable. Don't even listen to it in a masochistic spirit - just pretend it never happened.
Looking forward to tyler's blog post & we'll see where it goes from there...
― we can only flee in abject horror from yesterday's mistakes (staggerlee), Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:14 (fifteen years ago)
i def prefer the pacific highway set to IT'S TOO LATE TO STOP NOW - i find Van's excessive patois-slippage on the latter to be v offputting, and i don't think the band on that rec is all that hot
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:29 (fifteen years ago)
xpkinda know what you mean about moondance, but hopefully you can come around on it again someday -- really some wonderful stuff on there.
― tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:30 (fifteen years ago)
yo i wanna give a shout out to van's karate kicks in The Last Waltz and his horrible brown suit
― lemmy ruxpin (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:30 (fifteen years ago)
also the first time i heard a non-brown eyed girl van morrison song was when i was a kid and my sister watched this movie all the time on VHS dubbed off of our cousin's HBO:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/Dream_a_little_dream.jpg
― lemmy ruxpin (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:32 (fifteen years ago)
they sure don't cast movies like that anymore
― tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:33 (fifteen years ago)
eeee was just trying to remember who piper laurie was and GIS-ed her -- Carrie's mom! nooooo
― tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:34 (fifteen years ago)
i also downloaded from somewhere or other a great four disc set of outtakes, studio rarities etc called 'the real philosopher's stone' - hunt that out, too
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:35 (fifteen years ago)
yeahhh, that's got the moondance demos on there, which are pretty essential. y'know that philosopher's stone legit release has some great stuff on it too.
― tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:37 (fifteen years ago)
people that just go for astral and moondance are definitely missing out on a LOT of his best. I'd say nearly everything up to 1980 is at least great with a lot of the stuff on records like Veedon and Highway being incredible.
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:49 (fifteen years ago)
into the music has some great stuff on it. i was just laughing with my brother about van naming a record "a period of transition" -- like there may as well be a sticker on it saying "you probably won't like this record."
― tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:52 (fifteen years ago)
ITM is basically one long, beautiful reverie in its last fifteen minutes; and "Full Force Gale" is a great single.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:55 (fifteen years ago)
According to critics and a bunch of fans i've spoken to, Hard Nose the Highway is meant to be one of his records to avoid. But it starts with this...which is incredible...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akAqMpp-Da0
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:59 (fifteen years ago)
how are those eighties record released after Beautiful Vision (which I like as a minor work)?
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:01 (fifteen years ago)
hard nose the highway is about half a masterpiece tbh. some of my favorite van, along with stuff i always skip. "snow in anselmo" is amazing.
― tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:05 (fifteen years ago)
sometimes I think that my favorite Van tune is Them's cover of "It's All Over Now Baby Blue"--definitely one of the best Dylan covers.
― the Sonic Youths of suck (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:36 (fifteen years ago)
yeah it's fab, tho i might prefer 13th floor elevators' cover of that tune. if i had to choose.
― tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:37 (fifteen years ago)
that's really good too, but I just dig the little bell-like notes that suffuse Them's cover--they're so lovely. Admittedly, my first exposure to those sounds was on Odelay. They're sampled in the song, "Jackass"
Still one of Van's prettiest moments.
― the Sonic Youths of suck (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:42 (fifteen years ago)
hard nose the highway's good! you'd be missing out if you avoided it
― just sayin, Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:43 (fifteen years ago)
great (terrible) cover too
― just sayin, Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:44 (fifteen years ago)
ha, yeah, odelay's where i first heard it too. really is a lovely effect. xp
― tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:44 (fifteen years ago)
Me too.
I'm very partial to Bryan Ferry's version.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:47 (fifteen years ago)
wow never heard snow in anselmo
how gorgeous
― lemmy ruxpin (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:48 (fifteen years ago)
insanely good version of that song here: http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/van-morrison/concerts/orphanage-july-29-1974.html
― tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:52 (fifteen years ago)
also check this, which might be an early version of the same song? some similarities anyway, even though completely different lyrics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_YMPV3Y8sk
― tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:56 (fifteen years ago)
yeah holy shit at 'snow', jeez
― bear, bear, bear, Friday, 7 January 2011 00:03 (fifteen years ago)
thing is nuts, some of those high notes that he sorta doesn't stick are heavy
― bear, bear, bear, Friday, 7 January 2011 00:06 (fifteen years ago)
Just dug out Tupelo Honey prompted by this, and the back cover photo is hilarious: Van, his Woman and a Horse - but Van is sitting on a fence with his legs wide open, like some rustic porn idyll is about to begin. The horse looks worried to me.
― sonofstan, Friday, 7 January 2011 00:36 (fifteen years ago)
I voted for Madame George but if you haven't heard TB Sheets, please do. It's florid and preposterous,and fantastic. I still can't believe it exists when I listen to it.
― Fruitless and Pansy Free (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Friday, 7 January 2011 01:26 (fifteen years ago)
Catching up.The live KSAN performance from 1971 is absolutely stunning. Think it is the same thing as the pacific high studios boot. Must hear for all Van fans. I'd give it the nod over "It's Too Late" though that's fabulous as well. EDIT: some of the tracks are up on youtube & are titled pacific high studios:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZpKAB_6qkM
The Greil Marcus book is not really a conventional biography. More of Greil's reactions to Van's music. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Voted for "Astral Weeks."
Can't resist posting one from this 1974 tv show. It will make Into The Mystic fresh again.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpPSBzGEklE
― that's not my post, Friday, 7 January 2011 05:13 (fifteen years ago)
yeah snow in san anselmo is amazing.
IT WAS LAYING ON THE GROUND
― clotpoll, Friday, 7 January 2011 07:33 (fifteen years ago)
love those 70s van performance clips. something amazing about them: from what i know of the guy, he's not the happiest person in the world, but watching stuff like that you can tell that he really does live for the music, like inhabiting those songs is really the only time he feels comfortable in his own skin.
― tylerw, Friday, 7 January 2011 16:25 (fifteen years ago)
not that he looks happy in the into the mystic clip, haha.
― tylerw, Friday, 7 January 2011 16:33 (fifteen years ago)
I love snow in San Anselmo. I've also got a soft spot for Wild Children from that album, with its sudden lurch into cocktail jazz
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:09 (fifteen years ago)
really i like too much of van's stuff to choose. i love "sweet thing" too.
― Moonlight Graham (chrisv2010), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:11 (fifteen years ago)
here y'all gohttp://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/2642433271/nobody-feels-any-pain-van-morrisons-its-too
― tylerw, Friday, 7 January 2011 23:12 (fifteen years ago)
woah, thanks tylerw, i know what ima listen too shortly!
― KC & the sunshine banned (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 8 January 2011 01:19 (fifteen years ago)
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 00:01 (fifteen years ago)
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 00:01 (fifteen years ago)
On most days I would probably go for "Madam George", but tonight's it's all about "Slim Slow Slider". "I know you're dying, babe.." Jesus.
― Mule, Monday, 1 October 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)
new Van album out tomorrow!
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 1 October 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)
has he done anything worth hearing recently...or in the last couple decades?
― farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 October 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)
see the last several posts....
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)
nah it was in this thread Van Morrison: your views please
― tylerw, Monday, 1 October 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)
Wavelength is about where I start to get off the wagon, with a temporary rally for Into the Music
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 1 October 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)
man I love No Guru and Irish Heartbeat and The Waiting Game and Pay the Devil....Van is just awesome to me & I love that just keeps going
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 1 October 2012 23:45 (thirteen years ago)
for kornrulz. listen to the lion, live from '74.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY8T35WsQfU
― that's not my post, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 06:53 (ten years ago)
So Van recorded an interesting outtake in 1970 called "Coming Down to Joy" that didn't really work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abjYPKvgkv4
It was never given an official release and remains in the vault to this day. BUT, turns out he reworked the song for Kenneth Branagh's new film Belfast, and it was just nominated for an Oscar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHc5i1eenAM
I can't say I'm a fan of the movie - the shallow and syrupy depiction of growing up during the Troubles feels like Branagh's crowd-pleasing tendencies at their worst - but Morrison's new rendition of an old song is pretty decent. Too bad he's been a complete ass for the past year.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 8 February 2022 20:01 (four years ago)