* Peerless, soulful voice.
* Gifted musician - guitar, alto sax, harmonica....
* Several hundred original compositions.
* Consistently high standard of album releases.
* Outstanding live performer.
I'd be very interested to hear what others think of Van the Man.
― Gerry Smith, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Tom, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Billy Dods, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― ethan, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― mark s, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
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― Sean, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― fritz, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
He's got so much & I know so little. I also like "Wavelength". Some of those long mid-70s pieces like "Listen to the Lion" are pretty painful.
― Mark, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― dave q, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
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― g, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink
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― Michael Daddino, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink
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― Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 14 November 2004 18:18 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 14 November 2004 18:31 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 14 November 2004 19:56 (8 years ago) Permalink
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 14 November 2004 20:01 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 14 November 2004 21:49 (8 years ago) Permalink
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:38 (8 years ago) Permalink
dave q., as usual, nails it. still, i give a thumb's up to astral weeks and moondance, and bits and pieces of all the rest.
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 14 November 2004 23:07 (8 years ago) Permalink
and didn't someone on ILX once post a rilly funny story about some (REALLY disgusting) thing that van's (understandably) pissed-off stage musicians did to one of his harmonicas?!?
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 14 November 2004 23:09 (8 years ago) Permalink
Van Morrison is a prize curmudgeon by all accounts, which gives me an opportunity to pinch this from the rocking vicarVan's Daily DumpVan Morrison insists on his band turning up to rehearsals at bang on 8.30am, although Van himself often doesn't turn up until ten, and then goes straight to the toilet with a copy of Exchange & Mart to have a dump. One day, the band got so cross that they waited until Van was engaged and then, one by one, tip-toed over to Van's Sacred Harmonica Bag, full of harmonicas Van has collected from around the world, picked a specimen, and rubbed it in their anal clefts. Even now, when you see Van on Later, his band seemed particularly delighted when he does a harmonica solo.
-- Billy Dods (butterbubble...), September 4th, 2002.
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 14 November 2004 23:12 (8 years ago) Permalink
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 14 November 2004 23:15 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 15 November 2004 03:17 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 15 November 2004 03:18 (8 years ago) Permalink
Maybe.
Astral Weeks = very necessary.
The rest = meh. Ups and downs.
― skowly (skowly), Monday, 15 November 2004 04:08 (8 years ago) Permalink
― bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 15 November 2004 04:12 (8 years ago) Permalink
Out of context, that would be a strange sentence.
― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 15 November 2004 04:17 (8 years ago) Permalink
Nothing I've heard from him since 1974 seems to come close - although I'd be interested to see what other ILMers think of some of his more recent albums (especially Back On Top, Down The Road, What's Wrong With This Picture) since I have recently been entertaining the (probably fanciful) notion that he's about due for a sudden and unexpected return to form.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 15 November 2004 04:24 (8 years ago) Permalink
This message is not for Van haters, but for Van fans. I first got hip to Van when I saw the "Last Waltz." When he came out I thought "who the heck is that little fat guy, he's all flabby and dressed in a brown pantsuit? He looks like a middle-aged lady. On top of that he's doing this ridiculous chorus-line kicking." Then I kept listening and I shut up. His was the most definitive performance in the movie, his and Muddy Waters.
About Van sideman and territory-sharer Georgie Fame, who was dissed above: I saw Georgie once at Ronnie Scott's in London, and he put on one good show. He did one bit where, in a tribute to his former boss, he sang a medley of Moondance and some African song from a movie soundtrack (was it one of those Cornel Wilde things?) that was pretty damn great.
― Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 15 November 2004 04:55 (8 years ago) Permalink
― prov, Monday, 15 November 2004 06:13 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 15 November 2004 06:21 (8 years ago) Permalink
― 57 7th (calstars), Monday, 15 November 2004 17:38 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 15 November 2004 17:41 (8 years ago) Permalink
I've never thought of Van Morrison as hippy-anything (or especially earnest, for that matter). Unlike the faux-mysticism of, say, Led Zeppelin, Van's lyrics steer clear of gnomes and m'ladys, are grounded instead in back alleys, snowstorms, trains, Safeway supermarkets, and memory. More importantly, the music is equally grounded: in r&b. His 70's catalogue (Moondance, Tupelo Honey, St Dominick's Preview, Hardnose the Highway, Veedon Fleece, and though it's '69, Astral Weeks belongs in this group too) is at least as strong as Al Green's. After that, for the most part it seems like he started reading a bit too much of his own press: yes, the mysticism did start to grate. I've been listening to him a lot again. He good.
― Burr (Burr), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:20 (8 years ago) Permalink
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― Burr (Burr), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:51 (8 years ago) Permalink
― 57 7th (calstars), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:53 (8 years ago) Permalink
his new albums have sold modestly but consistently well for twenty years and they each sport at least one gem
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 September 2012 15:10 (7 months ago) Permalink
yeah i don't keep up w/ the new stuff too much, but i'm always pleasantly surprised when i hear one of them. he can still sing.
― tylerw, Sunday, 30 September 2012 15:19 (7 months ago) Permalink
I love a lot of the early stuff, especially the Them era. & Astral Weeks.Also Veedon Fleece, It's Too Late To Stop Now and other bits of the Caledonia Soul Orchestra.
Not listened to him much after about '74 though I do have Common one somewhere and the video of the live set from the collaboration with the Chieftains.
I was just looking at the list of supposedly essential lps by him in the current Mojo this morning and thinking there were a couple of things I'd think of as necessary such as the Too late set.Also that I should have the Chieftains studio lp, just managed to get the video thing from the tv around the time that was released.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 30 September 2012 18:06 (7 months ago) Permalink
Irish Heartbeat is one of his best albums for sure. "Raglan Road" is incredible.
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 30 September 2012 19:13 (7 months ago) Permalink
here is the stream
― alex in mainhattan, Sunday, 30 September 2012 20:36 (7 months ago) Permalink
i was listening to these songs a LOT in 1987. and doing lots of drugs. people forget how psychedelic the 80's were. unless they were psychedelic in the 80's. a lotta 80's revivalists miss that part of it.
― scott seward, Sunday, 30 September 2012 21:54 (7 months ago) Permalink
(also i just love that van album a lot. very inspiring to me.)
― scott seward, Sunday, 30 September 2012 21:55 (7 months ago) Permalink
A lot of his eighties are sharp! "Cleaning Windows," "Did Ya Get Healed," "Someone Like You" -- lovely.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 23:08 (7 months ago) Permalink
"dweller on the threshold" is another great 80's Van track
― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 10:09 (7 months ago) Permalink
one irish rover from no guru is another great one. the production on the album track is a little cheese-o, this version kinda improves on it.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 14:13 (7 months ago) Permalink
So glad to see No Guru, No Method, No Teacher is getting some love! I saw Van on the tour for this album and was floored by several of the then-new songs, which I'd never heard at that point. The album's midsection - "Foreign Window", "A Town Called Paradise", "In The Garden", "Tir Na Nog" - is an amazing, trancelike four-song sequence.
― Lee626, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 14:49 (7 months ago) Permalink
I was going to ask for guidance into eighties Van. I own Beautiful Vision ("Cleaning Windows" is one of his best imo) but dat's dat.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 15:12 (7 months ago) Permalink
listening to the new one - so smooth and pleasant, which I think is probably a mark against it in a lot of people's books but not in mine. Relaxed little horn section, Van with his grumpy observations...it's like...kind of boring, that can't be denied, it doesn't grab you, but I really really like it. I don't know, I expect to play it a lot more than more exciting stuff
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 16:45 (7 months ago) Permalink
Pretty good too;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderful_Remark
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 16:51 (7 months ago) Permalink
^ easily my fave van morrison track of the past 30 years and reading that i apparently really need to get the philosopher's stone.
― balls, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 18:49 (7 months ago) Permalink
Philosopher's Stone has a fair amount of good stuff on it but don't go looking for higher peaks than "Wonderful Remark" - "Wonderful Remark" is an all-time jam. "Bright Side of the Road" is great but isn't there a version of that on Into the Music too?
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 18:59 (7 months ago) Permalink
this thing from philosopher's stone is all time
― tylerw, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 19:00 (7 months ago) Permalink
and this!!!!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 19:01 (7 months ago) Permalink
yeah yr right esp re steppin out queen, God damn
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 19:20 (7 months ago) Permalink
yeah i've always wondered if that song is just straight up improv on van's part or what. barely a song but holy shit!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 19:23 (7 months ago) Permalink
yeah 'bright side of the road' was on into the music, pretty easily the best post-peak run van album (xgau says best post-moondance, and he may be right). apparently shakira performed it at the obama inauguration!
― balls, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 19:37 (7 months ago) Permalink
Into The Music a fine piece of work but hardly the best since Moondance
― Lee626, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 20:11 (7 months ago) Permalink
I prefer it to Moondance. I prefer St Dominic's Preview to Moondance. I prefer Tupelo Honey to Moondance.
see a trend?
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 20:17 (7 months ago) Permalink
"Full Force Gale" is mighty
holy shit steppin' out queen - i just went fucking ham
― farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 20:25 (7 months ago) Permalink
how did i not know about this philosopher's stone thing??????
fuckin' a
YOU GONNA PROMENADE!A LITTLE HIP ACTION!
seems like that release was kinda under the radar (at least I didn't really pay attention to it when it came out). but it's essential imo. van really needs like a comprehensive box set, but maybe he's been on too many different labels for that to happen?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 20:27 (7 months ago) Permalink
yeah label thing is a huge obstacle, even the comps, as solid as they are, are hurt by this i think. really wish his 80s onward stuff was on spotify, totally the kind of thing that service is best for.
― balls, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 20:33 (7 months ago) Permalink
yeah, i just went over there to listen to some stuff but no dice! vannnnnnnn!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 20:35 (7 months ago) Permalink
it used to be, must've been taken down
― farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 20:36 (7 months ago) Permalink
van really needs like a comprehensive box set, but maybe he's been on too many different labels for that to happen?
I have a good 2-disc NRBQ comp (on Rhino) and they've been on like seven different labels, so it's doable.
― Lee626, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 20:38 (7 months ago) Permalink
yeah, i mean now that all major labels are one major label (or three, i can't keep track) it seems like it should happen. might even be van's fault, i feel like he might own his masters or something?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 20:42 (7 months ago) Permalink
holy shit steppin' out queen!
soto do you actually not like moondance or are you just tired of it or do you just prefer some others to it? totally understand the latter two and always kinda amazed at how many ppl i've met who own and LOVE moondance, go to a weird place when they hear 'into the mystic' like it's 'desperado' or something and yet somehow have zero interest in listening or owning any other van morrison album.
― balls, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 20:44 (7 months ago) Permalink
I gotta rep for "inarticulate speech of the heart" as far as 80s van goes. immense album.
― blank, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 00:39 (7 months ago) Permalink
The second side is a bore and I never want to listen to it whereas every other album I mentioned has goodies.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 00:42 (7 months ago) Permalink
but the first side is so awesome it makes up for it. but yeah, this is one of those albums where i only listen to one side.
also, why does Allmusic show "Crazy Love" as having been written by Paul Anka? That can't be right!
― Lee626, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 01:42 (7 months ago) Permalink
Van owns most of his masters, and that's part of the problem. He had a nice reissue campaign going a few years ago, but stopped it (depending on who you ask) either because he got pissed at his label, or he got caught up in new projects, including the Astral Weeks concert series. The latter also came about because of another problem: most of his solo catalog that he doesn't own is controled by Warner Bros. Morrison has been trying to get them back for years to no avail, complaining that those albums haven't been treated properly (and hence no reissues other than audiophile vinyl outside of the still in print original cd editions). The live AW album was done so he could own versions of the all the songs on that set.
― 50 Shades of Greil (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:02 (7 months ago) Permalink
I listened to ASTRAL WEEKS about a year ago and was sorely disappointed. Not even sure how it can be considered a classic album...
― Tyler Burns (burns46824@yahoo.com), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 04:10 (7 months ago) Permalink
― zvookster, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 04:31 (7 months ago) Permalink
I'm really into ponderous Van. "Keep It Simple" is a hugely funny Van album title to me.
― blank, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 05:22 (7 months ago) Permalink
really wish his 80s onward stuff was on spotify, totally the kind of thing that service is best for.
i was bummed to discover this fact today
― da croupier, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 05:49 (7 months ago) Permalink
what are some good early-ish mark isham albums? I like his soundtrack for "never cry wolf"
― blank, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 06:08 (7 months ago) Permalink
Not Supposed To Break Down off Philosopher's Stone is just amazing.
Some other gems from the 80s that I don't think have been mentioned- Wild Honey from Common One- Rave On, John Donne from Inarticulate Speech- So Quiet in Here and Real Real Gone from Enlightenment- Tore Down a la Rimbaud from A Sense of Wonder
― that's not my post, Thursday, 4 October 2012 04:57 (7 months ago) Permalink
Rave On, John Donne is such a quintessential Van title. Hard to think of anyone else who'd merge Buddy Holly and 17th C English poetry.
― that's not my post, Thursday, 4 October 2012 05:33 (7 months ago) Permalink
"Celtic Ray" off Beautiful Vision quite nice too
― Lee626, Thursday, 4 October 2012 12:22 (7 months ago) Permalink
i guess it's obvious that common one is totally killer but common one is totally killer
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 October 2012 19:06 (7 months ago) Permalink
"Give Me My Rapture" from Poetic Champions Compose is a good 'un.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 14:46 (5 months ago) Permalink
Yep, love that whole album.
― 2 Chain Pizzas (to go) (Eazy), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:34 (5 months ago) Permalink
I've been enjoying Into The Music quite a bit lately. Warm and comfy like an old sweater.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:49 (5 months ago) Permalink
i don't think i've ever heard poetic champions. this long outtake from the early 70s is worth hearing, if you haven't checked it out. http://ow.ly/fOwOm
― tylerw, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:07 (5 months ago) Permalink