ILM Top 100 2000-2004: ALBUMS

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do you like fantasma better, rockist?

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay! I nominated that one. I lurv it soooo much. I like Fantasma a great deal too, but, whereas that one is really schitzo and wild, Point I love for being so homogenous and dense and shimmery.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

peter smith, you are giving me too much credit for keeping up with things. Point is the only Cornelius I've heard. (I can't remember if I heard something from it on the radio that got me interested or if it just turned up in the library after I had seen him mentioned here.) Also, in fairness, as we all know, this isn't a style of music I usually like much.

― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a little concerned about the "recommended tracks" thing. The best song on the Goldfrapp record is obviously "Train" (and it's beyond my personal favorite as I think it was also the most popular single released from it too...)

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yes, that's true.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

you should hear that one rockist, if you liked point at all. to my ears, theyre both inconsistent, but fantasma comes out on top. its more varied, like nick said, and comes off a little like odelay in places, if that appeals to you at all.

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Train and Strict Machine are virtually identical anyway.

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

That's also true. But 'Train' is marginally sexier.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i disagree there. with recommended tracks i am going by what people mention for their top rated album, and then adding whatever i see mentioned on archived threads, or if i know the album i pick a couple of tracks that i think sum up the range on it best.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Strict Machine was a more popular single in the UK, having been re-released after usage on an advert, and having a more memorable video.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 65

Points: 263
No. of votes: 12
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: BIG & RICH
Title: HORSE OF A DIFFERENT COLOUR
Label: Warner
Year: 2004

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/horseofadifferentcolour.jpg

Comments: Big & Rich: Album of the Decade?

Recommended tracks: Save A Horse Ride A Cowboy, Wild West Show, Six Feet Town

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Strict Machine was a more popular single in the UK, having been re-released after usage on an advert

ah, ok then.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.hardandheavy.de/gallerie_a/bilder/aerosmith_big_ones_front.jpg

― ())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe it should say 'Recommended by the telly:"

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

gillian welch, a mere #68? *weeps*

― Sean M (Sean M), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

what were your nominations sean?

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"Drop" is far and away the best track on 'Point', and one of the best tracks of the 21st century.

My comments were heavily edited (a bit much so there, Steve, I've seen bigger on this thread than what I ended up with up there), but it was necessary as I went into a shamanic trance after Steve asked me to comment and eneded up with a fucking essay. But Drop was very well delved into and I still really like it. Point is still 3rd best Cornelius rec for me and 4th if I count CM, but it has some great moments still and I may put the original review on my blog soon.

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry dude, feel free to post your comments in full tho. i will probably include the lot on the proposed microsite

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't actually recall, jed. was a bit embarassed by them (lotsa radiohead singles, i think), so didn't save. i remember that okkervil river was #1, gillian was top five, and 50 cent was on there somewhere.

― Sean M (Sean M), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

hey stevem was i the guy who voted big $ rich number one? i think i was

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry dude, feel free to post your comments in full tho. i will probably include the lot on the proposed microsite

Like I said, it was necessary and anyway, I said you could. Better the microsite than here (space and all), unless the microsite turns out to be a flight of fancy.

fantasma comes out on top. its more varied, like nick said, and comes off a little like odelay in places, if that appeals to you at all.

I still enjoy Odelay, but, uh, no.

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

fair enough

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Odelay = earthly goofy paranoid stoner pastiche
Fantasma = completely extraterrestrial look at Earth pop culture

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Odelay was always closer to the still more extraterrestrial (Japan-only) 69/96.

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

summary list of the top 100 so far to be updated as we proceed

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Out of curiosity, how many points does the #1 album have?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

NO Spoilers!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I predict the number one album has beats of some sort.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

that's not a spoiler, it's a teaser.

― comme personne (common_person), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I bet it has beats that "sound as if they are coated in vaseline."

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Sassy!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I totally would've voted Voodoo as my #1.
I should've voted.
I'm such a twat.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

oi! oi! oi! oi!

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

man so far this is kinda lame

― hector (hector), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sorta amused that there's all this complaint about the results so far as if:

* the fact that some like things others do not is somehow indicative of the collapse of civilization

* we have seen the totality of the results yet

As it is, what's going to happen when the final album is announced and it JUST SO HAPPENS that there's both love and hate for it? The sky, oddly enough, will continue to be blue.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"Ned" spelled backwards is "deN," as he is a deN of wisdom.

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

* the fact that some like things others do not is somehow indicative of the collapse of civilization

Music nerds in being excessively passionate about near-meaningless lists SHOCKAH! It's like watching sports, Ned, you cheer when your favourites win and are violently outraged when the ppl you hate score a point.

(there's a bit more to it than that, too, in that if certain areas of the musical spectrum get ignored here and others get lauded, ppl with certain tastes might justifiably be a bit saddened by this, only cuz it means that there's less of a chance of their faves getting discussed on the forum in general. Tho of course as far as that goes the poll's only telling us what we should already know, and whining won't do much good, and besides only a portion of ppl voted.) But yeah, mainly it's the geek thing.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

It's like watching sports, Ned, you cheer when your favourites win and are violently outraged when the ppl you hate score a point.

Oh, quite obviously! But given some of the subtexts and paper tigers swirling around this thread (and elsewhere), the whole thing seems to me potentially (not *definitively," of course) pointlessly polarized. It isn't as simple as Ye Olde Yawnsome Pseudo 'Rockism vs Popism' Split -- at least it better not be, for my sanity's sake -- but sometimes there seem to be these undercurrents that want to rise up and foist life into that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sorta amused that there's all this complaint about the results so far

You must be new around here.

― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

*bows*

I'm still sorta amused.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 64

Points: 264
No. of votes: 13
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: MF DOOM & MADLIB PRESENT...
Title: MADVILLAINY
Label: PIAS
Year: 2004

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/madvillain.jpg

Comments: The Madvillain project found an uncanny chemistry between the schitzo pastiche style of Madlib's production and the smoked-out ease of MF Doom's flows, a pairing whose music is full of amazing contradiction - futuristic and rustic, dark and vibrant, a piece equal parts cartoonish fantasy and gripping realism. nickalicious

Recommended tracks: Figaro, Fancy Clown, All Caps

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I like that cover more than I feel I should.

― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my God. TWO albums I voted for make the list!

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 63

Points: 264
No. of votes: 17
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: SUFJAN STEVENS
Title: GREETINGS FROM MICHIGAN...
Label: Rough Trade
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/greetingsfrommichigan.jpg

Comments: A pretty accessible record; nearly everyone who hears it will take a liking to at least three or four songs simply based on the beautiful vocal melodies. Don't listen to Pfork: it's no political statement, as much as they want it to be. It's a record of love for one's birthplace and a record lamenting it's decline. But it's not impersonal, which is the wonderful thing about the record. Sufjan doesn't treat the state as a _state_, he treats it like a deteriorating family member. A project of love if I've ever heard one. Gentry Boeckel

Recommended tracks: For the Widows in paradise, For the Fatherless in Ypsilanti; Detroit, Lift Up Your Weary Head

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, that sounds nice.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

it is, rather.

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

john lawrence wouldn't have been banging his head, he was already gone. how come infinity chimps didn't make the list. i wonder if that is as awful as i suspect. maybe he just yearns deeply for the success that his pals deserve to find them already. patio was crap. is that why no one loves them?

― keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I just saw Sufjan live this evening. Great show.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought the Sufjan album was really dreary and lacking hooks to be honest. Sorry.

― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:22 (twenty-one years ago)

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