ILM Top 100 2000-2004: ALBUMS

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No. 67

Points: 254
No. of votes: 15
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: GOLDFRAPP
Title: BLACK CHERRY
Label: Mute
Year: 2003

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Comments: Sticking a horse's tail on your arse turns you into a sexy hybrid of Kate Bush and Donna Summer - proven by the scientific electropopart extravaganza that is 'Black Cherry'. Avant-garde more in aspirations rather than in execution, if 'Felt Mountain' was a lonely walk in the woods, 'Black Cherry' is a more an effortless glide down a river of Alison's own vaginal juices - tho hardly as bawdy as Peaches, and a world away from the lewdness of Lil Kim. Even if that's not appealing than the tight programming and quirky hooks of Will Alexander should be. Pretentious? Mais naturellement.

Recommended tracks: Strict Machine, Crystalline Green, Black Cherry

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

STEVEM THAT'S DISGUSTING.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

haha I totally don't remember e-mailing you re: this steve (I do vaguely remember posting two nominations to a thread) but cool anyway.

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh i'm not sure i got votes off you cozen, couldn't find e-mail

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 66

Points: 262
No. of votes: 12
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: CORNELIUS
Title: POINT
Label: Matador
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/point.jpg

Comments: Every time Keigo Oyamada returns to recording, he's something different, not necessarily for dilletantism's sake, but because he's borrowed something old and learnt something new - each album (and remix collection) speaks a different language to each other, as it were. In an ever-changing yet cyclical world, he sets his own agenda and he keeps it that way. Point is Keigo at his most
lovely and most loved.

Recommended tracks: Point Of View Point, Brazil, Bird Watching At Inner Forest

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

boh, those comments were from Barima

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

"Drop" is far and away the best track on 'Point', and one of the best tracks of the 21st century.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I voted for Point but then I borrowed it from the library again and decided I don't like it much at all, beyond the first track, which is okay. (I only voted for five albums. I had to vote for something.)

― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

"brazil" used to be a radio-show-favorite of mine a year or two ago.

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

do you like fantasma better, rockist?

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay! I nominated that one. I lurv it soooo much. I like Fantasma a great deal too, but, whereas that one is really schitzo and wild, Point I love for being so homogenous and dense and shimmery.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

peter smith, you are giving me too much credit for keeping up with things. Point is the only Cornelius I've heard. (I can't remember if I heard something from it on the radio that got me interested or if it just turned up in the library after I had seen him mentioned here.) Also, in fairness, as we all know, this isn't a style of music I usually like much.

― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a little concerned about the "recommended tracks" thing. The best song on the Goldfrapp record is obviously "Train" (and it's beyond my personal favorite as I think it was also the most popular single released from it too...)

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yes, that's true.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

you should hear that one rockist, if you liked point at all. to my ears, theyre both inconsistent, but fantasma comes out on top. its more varied, like nick said, and comes off a little like odelay in places, if that appeals to you at all.

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Train and Strict Machine are virtually identical anyway.

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

That's also true. But 'Train' is marginally sexier.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i disagree there. with recommended tracks i am going by what people mention for their top rated album, and then adding whatever i see mentioned on archived threads, or if i know the album i pick a couple of tracks that i think sum up the range on it best.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Strict Machine was a more popular single in the UK, having been re-released after usage on an advert, and having a more memorable video.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 65

Points: 263
No. of votes: 12
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: BIG & RICH
Title: HORSE OF A DIFFERENT COLOUR
Label: Warner
Year: 2004

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Comments: Big & Rich: Album of the Decade?

Recommended tracks: Save A Horse Ride A Cowboy, Wild West Show, Six Feet Town

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Strict Machine was a more popular single in the UK, having been re-released after usage on an advert

ah, ok then.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.hardandheavy.de/gallerie_a/bilder/aerosmith_big_ones_front.jpg

― ())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe it should say 'Recommended by the telly:"

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

gillian welch, a mere #68? *weeps*

― Sean M (Sean M), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

what were your nominations sean?

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"Drop" is far and away the best track on 'Point', and one of the best tracks of the 21st century.

My comments were heavily edited (a bit much so there, Steve, I've seen bigger on this thread than what I ended up with up there), but it was necessary as I went into a shamanic trance after Steve asked me to comment and eneded up with a fucking essay. But Drop was very well delved into and I still really like it. Point is still 3rd best Cornelius rec for me and 4th if I count CM, but it has some great moments still and I may put the original review on my blog soon.

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry dude, feel free to post your comments in full tho. i will probably include the lot on the proposed microsite

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't actually recall, jed. was a bit embarassed by them (lotsa radiohead singles, i think), so didn't save. i remember that okkervil river was #1, gillian was top five, and 50 cent was on there somewhere.

― Sean M (Sean M), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

hey stevem was i the guy who voted big $ rich number one? i think i was

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry dude, feel free to post your comments in full tho. i will probably include the lot on the proposed microsite

Like I said, it was necessary and anyway, I said you could. Better the microsite than here (space and all), unless the microsite turns out to be a flight of fancy.

fantasma comes out on top. its more varied, like nick said, and comes off a little like odelay in places, if that appeals to you at all.

I still enjoy Odelay, but, uh, no.

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

fair enough

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Odelay = earthly goofy paranoid stoner pastiche
Fantasma = completely extraterrestrial look at Earth pop culture

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Odelay was always closer to the still more extraterrestrial (Japan-only) 69/96.

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

summary list of the top 100 so far to be updated as we proceed

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Out of curiosity, how many points does the #1 album have?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

NO Spoilers!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I predict the number one album has beats of some sort.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

that's not a spoiler, it's a teaser.

― comme personne (common_person), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I bet it has beats that "sound as if they are coated in vaseline."

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Sassy!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I totally would've voted Voodoo as my #1.
I should've voted.
I'm such a twat.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

oi! oi! oi! oi!

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

man so far this is kinda lame

― hector (hector), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sorta amused that there's all this complaint about the results so far as if:

* the fact that some like things others do not is somehow indicative of the collapse of civilization

* we have seen the totality of the results yet

As it is, what's going to happen when the final album is announced and it JUST SO HAPPENS that there's both love and hate for it? The sky, oddly enough, will continue to be blue.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"Ned" spelled backwards is "deN," as he is a deN of wisdom.

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

* the fact that some like things others do not is somehow indicative of the collapse of civilization

Music nerds in being excessively passionate about near-meaningless lists SHOCKAH! It's like watching sports, Ned, you cheer when your favourites win and are violently outraged when the ppl you hate score a point.

(there's a bit more to it than that, too, in that if certain areas of the musical spectrum get ignored here and others get lauded, ppl with certain tastes might justifiably be a bit saddened by this, only cuz it means that there's less of a chance of their faves getting discussed on the forum in general. Tho of course as far as that goes the poll's only telling us what we should already know, and whining won't do much good, and besides only a portion of ppl voted.) But yeah, mainly it's the geek thing.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

It's like watching sports, Ned, you cheer when your favourites win and are violently outraged when the ppl you hate score a point.

Oh, quite obviously! But given some of the subtexts and paper tigers swirling around this thread (and elsewhere), the whole thing seems to me potentially (not *definitively," of course) pointlessly polarized. It isn't as simple as Ye Olde Yawnsome Pseudo 'Rockism vs Popism' Split -- at least it better not be, for my sanity's sake -- but sometimes there seem to be these undercurrents that want to rise up and foist life into that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sorta amused that there's all this complaint about the results so far

You must be new around here.

― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

*bows*

I'm still sorta amused.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

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