Is Everybody Who Edits the Village Voice Really This Stupid?

good on ya h.

I await his missive re: the hip-hop hating sissies over at Bloodshot.

very little has convincingly "rocked" since the late 70s, and i'm not sure why that's a bad thing necessarily, anymore than lamenting the fact that nothing "swings with the beat of new orleans" anymore.

by this i mean that "rocking" is rarely the primary concern of music which supposedly "rocks" these days. or, even if it ostensibly is, it's way too tangled with other concerns to matter much.

I blame Billy Joel, the man who pioneered the art of signifying that pretending to rock out is just as good as rocking out.

Well, him and the entire pretense of "art". haha

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a real suprise from the rock-hating piddle-fetishists at Drag City
I don't know what this means, but I can't think of people who "hate rock" LESS than the Drag City folks.

-- Sam J. (xp75hid0...), June 23rd, 2003.

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ac/dc
-- James Blount (littlejohnnyjewe...), June 23rd, 2003.

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Brooks & Dunn have to come out with a single called "All The Good Rock&Roll Drums Are Down In Nashville". alright, that's a shitty title, but it's true. Is that why mutt lange ended up making country-pop?
-- scott seward (skotro...), June 23rd, 2003.

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yeah, ac/dc(who hide all the good drum sounds at their house), and me, and brooks&dunn.we all hate rock less than drag city.
-- scott seward (skotro...), June 23rd, 2003.

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The single is "Red Dirt Road," I think. My favorite songs so far are probably the "Start Me Up"-started-up opener, plus "When We Were Kings," "Memory Town," and "Good Cowboy" (with six or seven more in the running, including Dylan doomsday rap where the Jews fight the junkies, and no, I haven't figured out why they're fighting, or whether it's anti-semetic or junkiphobic for that matter, either. The words are *weird*.) People at In the Red, Sympathy for the Record Industry, Get Hip, Southern Lord, Century Media, and lots of other independent labels hate rock less than people at Drag City. (Man's Ruin is dead, right?) So does Justin Timberlake, probably. Or at least he rocks harder than any record I ever remember hearing on that label. (Though maybe there's stuff I HAVEN'T heard. Maybe I'm WRONG!)
-- chuck (cedd...), June 23rd, 2003

they're probably as concerned with rocking as they are being wholesome.

drag city is indifferent towards rocking is perhaps more valid.

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Oh, shit that reminded of the Drag City Supersession, that def. rocked. Sabbath cover no less!

...because obviously Timberlake and Brooks & Dunn rock in the exact same way?????

I'd have to disagree.

"Rock" can just be an objective assessment ("Scott Walker does not rock") or a subjective one ("Scott Walker ROCKS!") or I suppose one can split the word into two meanings and claim what Chuck occasionally implies--that to ROCK (in the subjective sense) something has to rock (in the objective sense, which remains sketchily defined except for Mr. Diamond's helpful spin). So is he saying that Drag City does not rock (objectively) or that it does not ROCK (subjectively)? Or that it does not ROCK because it does not rock?

Sorry, that botched sentence was the result of a few hasty revisions.

But no one would even care and you wouldn't get the pissy indignant bitching evidenced on this thread.

"The Oldest Circle Jerk In New York" is one of the best Simon & Garfunkel tunes.

ha, not sure your got the reference

http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/198848/Guys-and-Dolls-Movie-Clip-The-Oldest-Established.html

I got it. Just added another tune to the jerk fest.

:o

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/11/ocean-weekend-miguel-best.php?page=all

Ocean is an "emo soulster"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM5U7tAw47o

(This thread is so close to the Neil Young thread, I keep reading it as Everybody Knows This Is Stupid.)

Not a gripe, but it'd be cool if people posted the full Voice headline with a link so we know what the troll bait is without having to give them any more page hits.

Three artists are on the lips and minds and fingertips of critics

a chest-thumping façade that's foreign to Ocean, who seldom covers the heart on his sleeve

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9ts5d2Q8s1qf7pbs.gif

In a perfect world, these r & b rebels would all get their due from the pale-faced criterati at the end of the year. But let's be real here

Other years each would've made a fine token choice.

tbh I was surprised this revive wasn't about the jazz article

lol lex

lex needs to go in the overuse of the same gif penalty box tbh

tbh I was surprised this revive wasn't about the jazz article

So was I!

It's sad how thoroughly dumb their music section has become. McManus is the editorial equivalent of Guy Fieri.

i put the jazz thing here instead

OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

it was a toss-up...

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haha there's no way i'm actually reading that thing (i thought it was just a joke on twitter at first) but that the fucking VILLAGE VOICE is running a ten jazz albums you should hear before you die listicle (and apparently calling quintet at massey hall super obscure) is as big a sign of the voice's decline and betrayal of its former self i can imagine short of endorsing romney.

romney made a jazz record?

balls you must read it. compared to the writing itself, the concept is like a robert wilson opera.

1. Miles Davis
Kind of Blue
I can still remember the first time I heard this album. I was 17, and I was driving my Subaru Legacy Wagon in the rain. I drove the car to my grandparent's house, and put it on. It was only about a five-minute drive, but I ended parked outside of their house, the windshield wipers swatting away rain -- the album blaring. I sat in the driveway until the album ended, and, well, music was never the same for me. It's a composition, released in 1959, that is often considered the definitive jazz album. Honestly, there are some jazz purists who probably would die if they found out our generation was unfamiliar with it. Just listen to who was featured: Coltrane, Bill Evans, Cannonball Adderley, Paul Chambers, Jimmy Cobb. If you're about to go sky diving, and you're not sure if you're going to survive, play this album on the car ride over. Why is it so great? Let's not try to put it into words. It might be something unsayable.

might be

really think this era has to be the nadir, anything dumber is just gonna be sentence fragments, something abstract enough it's occasionally accidentally poetic. this reads like some english teacher assigned the backup left tackle on a jv football team an essay on jazz and he put it off until the bus ride to school the morning it was due. this hack's twitter feed is hilarious btw - lots of musings, posings at being a modern day bukowski, kerouac even occasionally interrupted by "Check out my piece on SNES, nostalgia, and multiplayer games. RT @OCWeekly"Top Five Super Nintendo Multiplayer Games http://ow.ly/fg4xd";

wait, don't get confused. there are now TWO listicles. the one posted yesterday that was subject to mass ridicule and the apologetic almost real one today that was posted as if it were a correction.

massey hall wss on the listicle posted today.

yeah i saw that also, good lord

neither as hilariously 'i am in way over my head' bad as this - http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2012/11/10_albums_while_studying.php

Joseph A. Lapin ‏@JosephALapin

I had a zombie portrait made today.

oh that classical link
i can't even

I LITERALLY can't even. It would hurt me too much.

That was pretty bad.

i only skimmed one page of the classical bit, i don't want to live in a world where things like that happen

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Just received this.

http://gawker.com/village-voice-staffers-sick-of-low-wages-and-bad-coffee-1598032905

Granted they kind of brought it on themselves by putting it in their list of demands, but I really hope this doesn't get attention only for the "lol employees want good coffee" angle.