OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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From this week's R&R (Reviewed & Rated) section of Exeter University Guild Of Students' magnificent student paper, Exeposé...

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:17 (7 years ago) Permalink

Argh, nu-ilx has shrunk it slightly past readable; here's a direct link - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/njsouthall/Screengrabs/onsellingoutexepose.jpg

I just boggled at this over my lunch.

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

"Jonny" is a name for gaywads

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

This only proves again that editors and writers are two different professions. Hence the two names.

StanM, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

You are actually posting a scan of an article from a student newspaper as the basis for a thread, aren't you? Good lord.

Matt DC, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

It's a screengrab from the pdf off the website! They didn't have a normal text version...

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

can you link to the website? photobucket seems to be banned here.

acrobat, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

http://www.exepose.ex.ac.uk

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

goes from strength to strength -- feeder mention is possibly the high point.

That one guy that quit, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

System of a Down's top 20 single was six and a half years ago, fact fans.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

"Recent developments in music have given Architechs a top 5 single"

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

surely this can't be THE jonny garrett?

http://www.myspace.com/chasingfaces

StanM, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

(yeah, they have a myspace already, the sellouts)

StanM, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

I suspect it must be, StanM.

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

I assume, from their name that they like Snow Patrol and The Small Faces.

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:35 (7 years ago) Permalink

um, holding up articles by students as examples of 'bad music writing'? talk about shooting fish in a barrel. Matt DC OTM.

blueski, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:35 (7 years ago) Permalink

Following in the footsteps of West Country acts like Muse and Thirteen Senses by already winning over interest from various major and independent record labels, things are definitely looking good for the boys. Having recently been asked to support New Zealand favourites The Checks who have just finished touring with the likes of JET and Oasis.

"I know someone who knows someone who knows the guy from Young Heart Attack quite well"

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

blueski and Matt DC offtm, this is the new web2.0 media era, we're all critics now, user provided content is the new professionally written content.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

Even in the realm of student media this is BAAAAAAAAD though, Steve - I flick through Exepose every week and this is BY FAR the worst thing I've ever seen in it; hence not starting a thread every week.

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

Haha I used to write for that paper. I wonder how long before he Googles his own name and finds it.

Matt DC, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

It would be so wonderful if he googled this thread and responded. What an utterly thrilling discussion and exchange of views that could lead to.

blueski, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

Hey, with any luck he might hop over to ILE and start posting about his sex life or something.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

(my question: is the article motivated by his own band possibly signing to a major soon?)

StanM, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

Maybe I should unleash the views of Chris Erasmus at you all?

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

Haha, yeah, I'd imagine so, StanM.

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

Hello Jonny's mom! No, he hasn't posted about his sex life yet. Try again later. Bye, ILX.

StanM, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

blueski and Matt DC offtm, this is the new web2.0 media era, we're all critics now, user provided content is the new professionally written content.

-- Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:36 (11 minutes ago) Link

Dom is entirely correct here. I mean, the chuckle factor is diminished by him being a student, but the democratization of criticism basically leaves us with this sort of landscape (coughcoughP.E.W.cough).

sanskrit, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

also why do nearly all student newspaper writers write in what feels like the same voice? there's certain syntax and word choices that only student newspapers ever seem to have.

acrobat, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

Nobody knows how to sub-edit when they're 21, that's why.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

^^not unrelated to why writers in the say, New York Times tend to sound the same. for that matter, ever read Blender? Despite the bylines it seems to be written by one many-armed poprockbot.

m coleman, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

that really is quite incredible.

jed_, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

New York Times doesn't have sub-editors? That's crazy!

acrobat, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

Hey Jonny, your band fucking suck.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

Jonny Garrett of Exeter University, that is.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

I think you mean <a href="OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?;>Jonny Garrett</a> of Exeter University.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

BOO HTML

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

Kudos on sticking it to Westlife, tho, Jonny Garrett of Exeter University. Those bastards have had it their own way for too long.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

Does Westlife even exist anymore?

Tuomas, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

highlights:

"...bands like westlife who can, quite frankly, go screw themselves with a rusty spoon and get tetanus"

"had nirvana not signed to sub pop... we would probably never have heard one of the most influential artists of our time and dave grohl may have never founded the foo fighters."

the pathos!

jed_, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:17 (7 years ago) Permalink

but the democratization of criticism basically leaves us with this sort of landscape (coughcoughP.E.W.cough).

democratization of criticism = people slagging this shit off just because they can rather than for any constructive cause. it's just easy target practice, who gives a shit? no-one/nothing is ever going to stop under-grads inheriting these absurd ideas about 'how things should be' in the music industry. surely we've all read this same article many times in the past.

i'm just more relieved than ever my music writing from college days was too soon for blog-era internet heh.

blueski, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

"had nirvana not signed to sub pop... we would probably never have heard of..." Sub Pop.

NickB, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

Was there ever a thread for people to post their own abysmal juvenile music writings from uni days?

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

Not that I'd post on it, my capsule reviews of Kinesis singles were all fuckin bang-on.

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

perhaps one day i will post my 8/10 track by track review of 'Be Here Now' from the time.

blueski, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, you real writers are all jealous that you've lost the ability to write like that, aren't you?

StanM, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

I wrote a two-part article in my uni paper called "Rhythm & Sound", which basically stated that all rock music that's based on melody or lyrics is boring crap, and that beats and sound are the essential components of good music - hence electronic dance music (and fusion jazz) is the best music there is. I got some angry comments from the indie kids.

Tuomas, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

Kudos on sticking it to Westlife, tho, Jonny Garrett of Exeter University.

and kudos to you lot for bravely and relentlessly going after such a signifivcant target as jonny garrett. sure showed him!

ts being one of many thick students w/ bad music taste who can't write, vs being someone who actually gives a shit about what said student writes in some minor student rag

or, matt'n'steve otm, u r all losers

lex pretend, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

but the democratization of criticism basically leaves us with this sort of landscape (coughcoughP.E.W.cough).

student newspapers have nothing to do with the "democratization of criticism"

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

I can't copy and paste from the Exeter Expose, but if you Google you can find a review where our Jonny talks about "Indy music".

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

also why do nearly all student newspaper writers write in what feels like the same voice? there's certain syntax and word choices that only student newspapers ever seem to have.

paul please, please tell me you don't actually care about the answer to this

lex pretend, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

I think we have a winner (and not just for the year)

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 23:04 (1 month ago) Permalink

Yeah we have a winner, every sentence of that can be quoted for maximum bullshit. We may as well shut down this thread and all of ILM for that matter

meaty, desperate, and honest about the world we live in (ultros ultros-ghali), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 01:23 (1 month ago) Permalink

i never thought a turd could be that many words big before

j., Wednesday, 22 April 2015 01:44 (1 month ago) Permalink

I like to imagine Edward Sharpe reading this article and muttering "I was this close."

klonman, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 02:19 (1 month ago) Permalink

everybody's favorite fuddy-duddy outdoes himself

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/love-songs-rip/

in-house pickle program (m coleman), Saturday, 2 May 2015 11:15 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

fissiparous
adjective fis·sip·a·rous \fi-ˈsi-p(ə-)rəs\
Definition of FISSIPAROUS

: tending to break up into parts : divisive <fissiparous tendencies within a political party>

in-house pickle program (m coleman), Saturday, 2 May 2015 11:18 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I'm all for improving my vocabulary, even at this late stage in the game, but hey "divisive" would read better in my untutored editorial view

in-house pickle program (m coleman), Saturday, 2 May 2015 11:22 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Teachout is SO heavy-handed and predictable, you can smell his cliched argument and conclusions from a mile away

in-house pickle program (m coleman), Saturday, 2 May 2015 11:24 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

"For one thing, Gioia has given us a book about lyrics, not music. He has little to say about the specifically musical matters upon which one might have expected a trained musician to shed light."
oh how the worm turns

maura, Saturday, 2 May 2015 15:00 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

'why don't you focus on the muuuuuusic, mannnn' - every annoyed music aficionado of a certain age

maura, Saturday, 2 May 2015 15:01 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

good to see tesla finally getting their due

j., Saturday, 2 May 2015 15:11 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

terry teachout is certainly of a certain age - late 50s or early 60s - though judging from his writing you'd think he's over 100. he's obsessed with the "music maaaan" issue too, regularly trots out his own experience as a "professional jazz musician" to set himself about the yapping critical pack. in his infuriating bio of duke ellington he actually had enough chutzpah to patronize the duke about his lack of schooling in classical european composition methods and theory. unlike terry, you see, who understands the proper way to compose a symphony

in-house pickle program (m coleman), Saturday, 2 May 2015 15:21 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

you do realize the irony of these charges being levied against mr. 'why is music writing becoming lifestyle reporting' right

maura, Saturday, 2 May 2015 15:48 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

oh yeah this guy, now i remember that dopey daily beast article. so teachout's review is turf-protecting; stay off my lawn, interloper

in-house pickle program (m coleman), Saturday, 2 May 2015 15:57 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

don't care how skilled a musician gioia may be, any critic who refers to himself as a "music scribe" is deficient as a prose stylist

in-house pickle program (m coleman), Saturday, 2 May 2015 16:01 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

in his infuriating bio of duke ellington he actually had enough chutzpah to patronize the duke about his lack of schooling in classical european composition methods and theory. unlike terry, you see, who understands the proper way to compose a symphony

Teachout is so fundamentally dopey, and I refuse to go near that Ellington bio for the reason you mentioned, which he boiled down to, "Ellington never wrote a great long work, because that's not what he was about, nor should he have been, and he should've studied proper European compositional methods in order to compose the great long work he should never have composed."

Also, this little nugget of dumbfuckery from the Nat'l Review around the time of the book's release:

LOPEZ: One of the “peculiarities” of Duke Ellington’s career, you write, is that “he was a major composer but not an influential one.” Why is that? How does that happen?

TEACHOUT: He wrote great music, but his techniques were so intensely personal and unique unto himself that they were for all intents and purposes inimitable. Hence he didn’t influence anybody — all that other artists could do was play his songs in their own ways.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 2 May 2015 16:17 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

now THAT right there is one of the dumbest things i've ever read. wow.

scott seward, Saturday, 2 May 2015 16:48 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

LOL

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 2 May 2015 18:02 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

wow. how do you not say that out loud, catch yourself and go, er, wait, sorry, i didn't think this through did i

Leonard Pine, Saturday, 2 May 2015 18:44 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

i mean i kinda get what he's getting at there but even if i agreed with it which i don't there are lots better ways to phrase the point

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 3 May 2015 00:24 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I picked up that biography in the library, looked up several late albums including Far East Suite, saw that Teachout dismissed them or didn't even mention them, and put it right back.

Vic Perry, Sunday, 3 May 2015 03:20 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I actually read the Ellington book, and I thought it was pretty good. I found his analysis of the larger works interesting; he makes a reasonable argument that Ellington wasn't actually composing long-form works, just creating medleys of shorter pieces and adding framing devices. He also argues that Ellington's tendency to procrastinate and write to deadline (and frequently blow deadlines) ultimately harmed his work. Both of these seem like reasonable perspectives to me. But I'm not a huge Ellington fan; in general, I find a little of his music goes a long way for me. Four or five tunes at a stretch is plenty, especially because he insisted on using vocalists so often.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 3 May 2015 12:40 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

renowned procrastinator duke ellington...

scott seward, Sunday, 3 May 2015 16:08 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Hence his famous catchphrase, "We will love you madly tomorrow."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 3 May 2015 16:13 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

the guy just didn't get enough done in the time allotted...

scott seward, Sunday, 3 May 2015 16:16 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

"Four or five tunes at a stretch is plenty"

sadly this is in line with a lot of hepcats i know who own a copy of money jungle and nothing else...

scott seward, Sunday, 3 May 2015 16:18 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

dook smellington

salthigh, Sunday, 3 May 2015 19:57 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

he makes a reasonable argument that Ellington wasn't actually composing long-form works, just creating medleys of shorter pieces and adding framing devices.

With varying degrees of contortion, one could say this about any long-form work by any composer. I think Teachout's view is a combination of the John Hammond (and borderline-racist) "Hey, you're supposed to just be a swing/dance band! Stop trying to aspire to more than that!"; and the generally Eurocentric "no, THIS is what constitutes a long-form work! Stop trying to reinvent/redefine it!"

And if Teachout believes Ellington's work suffered due to procrastination, this means that a) Ellington released half-realized work at some point in his lifetime (evidence of which is as yet nonexistent); or b) Teachout (and no one else) has access to Ellington work that, presumably supported by documentation, was not sullied by procrastination, and Teachout is therefore able to make an informed comparison/judgement.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 3 May 2015 23:14 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I'll go out on a limb with a half-baked thesis - hopefully the cheesy crusty parts will be edible though:

Teachout dismisses late Duke Ellington because:
1) Some of it gives equal billing to Billy Strayhorn, hence working against the "exploited Billy Strayhorn" angle
2) Some of it was undeniably achieved after the death of Strayhorn, hence working against the "after 19xx, he was nothing without Strayhorn" angle.

I don't have the background knowledge to defend these so do shoot away...I suspect I'm not entirely wrong either

Vic Perry, Monday, 4 May 2015 01:28 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

"With varying degrees of contortion," you can claim Teachout is saying almost anything you want. Read the book. I'm not suggesting I agree with him 100% across the board, but I'd be more interested in discussing it with people who'd read it.

What I'm characterizing as procrastination, btw, is multiple projects - stage shows, movie musicals, etc. - that fell through because Ellington promised people a full score, then never got around to writing one and attempted to fob off producers with existing leftovers.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 4 May 2015 02:54 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

As someone who loves ie Far East suite, in a sentimental mood, Afro-Eurasian eclipse, 70th birthday concert, money jungle et al--I think there's a pretty legit argument that ellington's most significant work, the perfection of the aesthetic he divised, was not in his long form symphonic works but in his three minute sides for like, okeh records. I think this is a pretty standard line on Ellington at this point ! 3 minute records was the canvas he was built for, at least in terms of recorded output

deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 4 May 2015 04:27 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Yesss ^^ it's possible to feel this way w/o being a condescending dick about it like TT. I'm not one to cry racism at the drop of a stereotype but TT also clucks his tongue at Duke's prolific infidelity during a long marriage in a superior tone that suggests well, you know how these black guys are...

in-house pickle program (m coleman), Monday, 4 May 2015 10:51 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

"With varying degrees of contortion," you can claim Teachout is saying almost anything you want. Read the book. I'm not suggesting I agree with him 100% across the board, but I'd be more interested in discussing it with people who'd read it.

I'm mostly basing my characterization of Teachout's contortions on his "(Over)praising Ellington" essay. When Teachout writes, "The idea, I guess, is to push him up into the classical-music arena: he played in Carnegie Hall, therefore he's serious. And that's completely wrong. Duke Ellington is serious because he is Duke Ellington" I think he's otm. But elsewhere in the essay, he's critical of Ellington for aspiring to lengthier works because Ellington didn't have the tools necessary to realize works Teachout thinks Ellington should never have attempted. If Teachout simply thinks Ellington's longer works aren't fully realized, that's fine (if a bit predictable -- and Teachout, in his essay, gives no indication of trying to meet the works on their own terms). But as I noted upthread, he's critical of Ellington for not studying that which Teachout thinks he never should have studied anyway.

What I'm characterizing as procrastination, btw, is multiple projects - stage shows, movie musicals, etc. - that fell through because Ellington promised people a full score, then never got around to writing one and attempted to fob off producers with existing leftovers.

I would hope that Teachout fleshed these scenarios out within the context of, say, Ellington having to constantly keep his band on the road in order to meet payroll. But I found his Armstrong bio underwhelming, and since Teachout apparently doesn't know what the word "influential" means, I'll skip the Ellington book.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 4 May 2015 14:38 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

XP-that's interesting, I thought the Armstrong bio was...well, delightful. I thought it was warm, enlightening, thorough and sympathetic. I guess he used all his compassion on Armstrong though.
I somewhat regularly read his sightings column, which is to say when I can stand it, so I'm not surprised he blows it on Ellington.
which isn't too often.

campreverb, Monday, 4 May 2015 14:46 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

lol contenderizer

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Sunday, 10 May 2015 02:15 (1 week ago) Permalink

This one is so bad I'm providing it via donotlink. http://www.donotlink.com/framed?704999

bae sremmurd (monotony), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 07:32 (1 week ago) Permalink

not saying there's any edit of that which could make it worthwhile but it's a textbook 'pick out the most obnoxious sentence and make it the headline' dealie

pull blart, maul cops (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 07:52 (1 week ago) Permalink

have a go heroes

Keith Moom (Neil S), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 08:29 (1 week ago) Permalink

Famous Briton Dolores O'Riordan

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 12:40 (1 week ago) Permalink

xpost to the meme that will not die
have a go and a smile

“audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 13:25 (1 week ago) Permalink

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121794/other-peoples-playlists-spotifys-secret-social-network
i have a real sore spot for "i typed in a phrase and look at all these big numbers" writing and the faux naif patina is grating

Keep going, listening to snippets of songs or speech. See what tugs at your ears. It’s one of the more satisfying ways I know to spend an hour. At the end you know something.

or this spitting balloon of an ending
People lament the ascendance of pop culture. Just because Katy Perry is in charge doesn’t mean that Charles Ives is out in the cold. He has 57,643 listens for his 1906 composition “The Unanswered Question.” Honestly, I don’t care what people like, only who they were and what they thought. I want a way for people to mark their paths through all this sound, so that I might follow.

“audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 May 2015 18:20 (4 days ago) Permalink

I start with someone popular but a bit weird, like Peter Gabriel, and then I click on the “Related Artists” tab and up pops a set of similar musicians: Sting, Dire Straits, Roxy Music.

It makes me wonder, what the hell is wrong with my friends? One listens to too much classical; another is far too into electronica. There’s the music critic who loves her 1970s metal, the Depeche Mode-obsessive, and a host of other breeds of snob or miscreant.

There's also the clueless asshole his friends might think is a friend.

Vic Perry, Monday, 18 May 2015 19:29 (4 days ago) Permalink

"[Selena Gomez]'s music is produced via a complex industrial process involving engineers, songwriters, and coaches" -- gee, you don't say

katherine, Monday, 18 May 2015 22:53 (4 days ago) Permalink

I actually thought the piece was OK but "this pop music is so artificial, unlike every other form of music, but it's an earworm anyway :(" is the laziest trope of music writing by non-music writers

katherine, Monday, 18 May 2015 22:57 (4 days ago) Permalink

"At the end you know something."

This is so brilliant. Some kind of pure idiot savant green tea zen sloaneering.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 18 May 2015 23:20 (4 days ago) Permalink

Also that is possibly the weakest playlist ever. This whole article is like a robot trying to read tea leaves.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 18 May 2015 23:25 (4 days ago) Permalink

this is kind of great though-"Watching other people listen to music is too much like knowing their sexual proclivities: You start out curious and end up horrified."

campreverb, Monday, 18 May 2015 23:28 (4 days ago) Permalink

just a note, archive.today is a better way to not give websites traffic than donotlink, which only really affects a site's google pagerank, which isn't a thing as much as it was a few years back

maura, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 01:03 (3 days ago) Permalink

About that New Republic article:

-Since when is Blancmange "weird"? I can think of quicker ways to find obscure synth pop. Like typing it in.

-One can never listen to too much electronic music

Freeland Avenue (I M Losted), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 22:15 (2 days ago) Permalink


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