OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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From this week's R&R (Reviewed & Rated) section of Exeter University Guild Of Students' magnificent student paper, Exeposé...

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

Argh, nu-ilx has shrunk it slightly past readable; here's a direct link - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/njsouthall/Screengrabs/onsellingoutexepose.jpg

I just boggled at this over my lunch.

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Jonny" is a name for gaywads

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

This only proves again that editors and writers are two different professions. Hence the two names.

StanM, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

You are actually posting a scan of an article from a student newspaper as the basis for a thread, aren't you? Good lord.

Matt DC, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

It's a screengrab from the pdf off the website! They didn't have a normal text version...

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

can you link to the website? photobucket seems to be banned here.

acrobat, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

http://www.exepose.ex.ac.uk

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

goes from strength to strength -- feeder mention is possibly the high point.

That one guy that quit, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

System of a Down's top 20 single was six and a half years ago, fact fans.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Recent developments in music have given Architechs a top 5 single"

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

surely this can't be THE jonny garrett?

http://www.myspace.com/chasingfaces

StanM, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

(yeah, they have a myspace already, the sellouts)

StanM, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

I suspect it must be, StanM.

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

I assume, from their name that they like Snow Patrol and The Small Faces.

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

um, holding up articles by students as examples of 'bad music writing'? talk about shooting fish in a barrel. Matt DC OTM.

blueski, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

Following in the footsteps of West Country acts like Muse and Thirteen Senses by already winning over interest from various major and independent record labels, things are definitely looking good for the boys. Having recently been asked to support New Zealand favourites The Checks who have just finished touring with the likes of JET and Oasis.

"I know someone who knows someone who knows the guy from Young Heart Attack quite well"

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

blueski and Matt DC offtm, this is the new web2.0 media era, we're all critics now, user provided content is the new professionally written content.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

Even in the realm of student media this is BAAAAAAAAD though, Steve - I flick through Exepose every week and this is BY FAR the worst thing I've ever seen in it; hence not starting a thread every week.

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

Haha I used to write for that paper. I wonder how long before he Googles his own name and finds it.

Matt DC, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

It would be so wonderful if he googled this thread and responded. What an utterly thrilling discussion and exchange of views that could lead to.

blueski, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

Hey, with any luck he might hop over to ILE and start posting about his sex life or something.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

(my question: is the article motivated by his own band possibly signing to a major soon?)

StanM, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

Maybe I should unleash the views of Chris Erasmus at you all?

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

Haha, yeah, I'd imagine so, StanM.

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

Hello Jonny's mom! No, he hasn't posted about his sex life yet. Try again later. Bye, ILX.

StanM, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

blueski and Matt DC offtm, this is the new web2.0 media era, we're all critics now, user provided content is the new professionally written content.

-- Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:36 (11 minutes ago) Link

Dom is entirely correct here. I mean, the chuckle factor is diminished by him being a student, but the democratization of criticism basically leaves us with this sort of landscape (coughcoughP.E.W.cough).

sanskrit, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

also why do nearly all student newspaper writers write in what feels like the same voice? there's certain syntax and word choices that only student newspapers ever seem to have.

acrobat, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

Nobody knows how to sub-edit when they're 21, that's why.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

^^not unrelated to why writers in the say, New York Times tend to sound the same. for that matter, ever read Blender? Despite the bylines it seems to be written by one many-armed poprockbot.

m coleman, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

that really is quite incredible.

jed_, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

New York Times doesn't have sub-editors? That's crazy!

acrobat, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

Hey Jonny, your band fucking suck.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

Jonny Garrett of Exeter University, that is.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think you mean <a href="OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?;>Jonny Garrett</a> of Exeter University.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

BOO HTML

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

Kudos on sticking it to Westlife, tho, Jonny Garrett of Exeter University. Those bastards have had it their own way for too long.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

Does Westlife even exist anymore?

Tuomas, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

highlights:

"...bands like westlife who can, quite frankly, go screw themselves with a rusty spoon and get tetanus"

"had nirvana not signed to sub pop... we would probably never have heard one of the most influential artists of our time and dave grohl may have never founded the foo fighters."

the pathos!

jed_, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

but the democratization of criticism basically leaves us with this sort of landscape (coughcoughP.E.W.cough).

democratization of criticism = people slagging this shit off just because they can rather than for any constructive cause. it's just easy target practice, who gives a shit? no-one/nothing is ever going to stop under-grads inheriting these absurd ideas about 'how things should be' in the music industry. surely we've all read this same article many times in the past.

i'm just more relieved than ever my music writing from college days was too soon for blog-era internet heh.

blueski, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

"had nirvana not signed to sub pop... we would probably never have heard of..." Sub Pop.

NickB, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

Was there ever a thread for people to post their own abysmal juvenile music writings from uni days?

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

Not that I'd post on it, my capsule reviews of Kinesis singles were all fuckin bang-on.

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

perhaps one day i will post my 8/10 track by track review of 'Be Here Now' from the time.

blueski, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, you real writers are all jealous that you've lost the ability to write like that, aren't you?

StanM, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

I wrote a two-part article in my uni paper called "Rhythm & Sound", which basically stated that all rock music that's based on melody or lyrics is boring crap, and that beats and sound are the essential components of good music - hence electronic dance music (and fusion jazz) is the best music there is. I got some angry comments from the indie kids.

Tuomas, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

Kudos on sticking it to Westlife, tho, Jonny Garrett of Exeter University.

and kudos to you lot for bravely and relentlessly going after such a signifivcant target as jonny garrett. sure showed him!

ts being one of many thick students w/ bad music taste who can't write, vs being someone who actually gives a shit about what said student writes in some minor student rag

or, matt'n'steve otm, u r all losers

lex pretend, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

but the democratization of criticism basically leaves us with this sort of landscape (coughcoughP.E.W.cough).

student newspapers have nothing to do with the "democratization of criticism"

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

I can't copy and paste from the Exeter Expose, but if you Google you can find a review where our Jonny talks about "Indy music".

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

also why do nearly all student newspaper writers write in what feels like the same voice? there's certain syntax and word choices that only student newspapers ever seem to have.

paul please, please tell me you don't actually care about the answer to this

lex pretend, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

which to me makes it inescapable
--I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes)

If only there was some way to mute or fast-forward commercials oh well

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 17 April 2014 12:37 (Yesterday) Permalink

I think a good example is "What Does the Fox Say." I remember hearing about it, SPIN did an interview with the dude, it was a huge thing, but I never actively took the step of pulling it up on YouTube and pushing "play." It distinctly required every listener -- millions of them -- to take a step and DO SOMETHING, which is markedly different than radio or MTV. I finally heard it when SNL did the parody and I paused the skit and loaded it up on my computer like "Ok maybe it's time to hear this." Same thing with whatever the "Cups" song is called

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 17 April 2014 12:41 (Yesterday) Permalink

xpost that would involve effort

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 April 2014 12:42 (Yesterday) Permalink

This conversation is endlessly cycling. Can someone just post another stupid blog?

Evan, Thursday, 17 April 2014 12:46 (Yesterday) Permalink

the husband of My Husband's Stupid Record Collection said on his radio show last week that the Mountain Goats are mediocre

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 April 2014 12:49 (Yesterday) Permalink

I have never heard "What Does The Fox Say." I had never heard the "Cups" thing until my niece's high school show choir did it last weekend. I only ever heard "Blurred Lines" because it was playing by a DJ at a function I attended. I deliberately listened to "Get Lucky" because everyone was talking about its retro-disco sound. I had no idea that song on the P. Diddy car commercial was the "Happy" that everyone's discussing.

It's not like I don't listen to music -- I listen to tons of music! Even new music! I'm listening to new music right now! -- but you can avoid this stuff. It's simple.

bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:02 (Yesterday) Permalink

WTF is 'Cups'?

(PS I don't even own a TV)

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:20 (Yesterday) Permalink

Lmao at branwell subtweeting this thread

Juelz Fantano (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:22 (Yesterday) Permalink

I was thinking earlier about why I hate 'Happy' and that's because it's one of these songs that sounds like it was made for a car or bank advert. And now I find that it has been used already. See also that tragic 'I want to fly away' song by Lenny Kravitz

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:22 (Yesterday) Permalink

If only ILM were the sort of place where people's listening choices were met with instant cultural suspicion...

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:25 (Yesterday) Permalink

dog latin

(my son learned it in music class and now habitually performs it any time he is presented with a cup and a table)

keep calm and nahkchivan (how's life), Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:25 (Yesterday) Permalink

https://www.google.ca/search?q=taylor+swift+magazine+covers&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=rtVPU6Jy6ubwAZ6YgMAP&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1240&bih=664

https://www.google.ca/search?q=katy+perry+magazines+covers&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ldVPU4XBD-XK8wGKlYCIBw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1240&bih=664

https://www.google.ca/search?q=lady+gaga+magazine+cover&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=nNVPU7vRCajq8QG134G4BQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1240&bih=664

And I guess we go to different gyms, stores, and fast food places (although, yeah, they might be just as likely to play rock stations or dance mixes). Admittedly, my perception could be coloured by teaching young kids who want to learn Taylor Swift or One Direction or Jason Mraz or Katy Perry or Demi Lovato songs.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:28 (Yesterday) Permalink

I mean, unless you're making a distinction where some of those are rock or country or musical artists as opposed to 'pop' artists.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:30 (Yesterday) Permalink

I didn't hear "Blurred Lines" until I started listening to the "hip hop & hits!" station to and from work (because the oldies and classic rock stations were pissing me off, and college stations were hit-or-miss at best). By the time I heard it, it was like six months old or something.

I still haven't heard the Frozen song.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:32 (Yesterday) Permalink

This conversation is endlessly cycling. Can someone just post another stupid blog?

― Evan, Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:46 AM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:33 (Yesterday) Permalink

And I guess we go to different gyms, stores, and fast food places (although, yeah, they might be just as likely to play rock stations or dance mixes).

I don't use a gym to work out, and I don't eat at fast food places, so there's two off the list. I don't even know what plays at the grocery store, I rarely pay attention. I think I heard 10,000 Maniacs there recently.

I still haven't heard the Frozen song.

Also heard that one for the first time at my niece's show choir. Along with "Love On Top" and, for the first time in its entirety and not just the chorus, "Bad Romance."

bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:34 (Yesterday) Permalink

I don't even know what plays at the grocery store, I rarely pay attention.

my Publix supermarket plays obscure Boz Scaggs, stuff like Jude Cole and Jennifer Paige and Bill Withers...I heard "Don't Disturb This Groove" last month.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:38 (Yesterday) Permalink

My daughter is sick today we are watching Frozen

Juelz Fantano (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:41 (Yesterday) Permalink

Oh 'Cups' was in Pitch Perfect? I really liked that film.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:43 (Yesterday) Permalink

My son's fifth grade class put on a play last week, and there was a part in the middle where the kids danced to "Happy". Everyone in the audience, kids and adults, went absolutely batshit. Lots of suburban moms shaking their stuff in the aisles.

nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:52 (Yesterday) Permalink

I guess I was hearing pop (or country) everywhere more when I lived in Regina tbh. (I moved across the country last summer and heard "Blurred Lines" in diners and fast food places across North America!) Tbf, the grocery store that is closest to my current apartment plays Joy Division and Jane's Addiction. So, yeah, if you're always in a bigger city, it might very well be easier to escape some of these things?

Frozen is awesome btw and I'm going to admit that I don't know what "Happy" is before I check out for the day.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:54 (Yesterday) Permalink

My 7-year-old niece enjoys singing "Let It Go" over and over. I love her, but her singing voice ain't the greatest.

nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:56 (Yesterday) Permalink

my cat won't stop meowing "lovefool" by the cardigans

Sufjan Cougar Mellencamp (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:58 (Yesterday) Permalink

just picturing this...

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Thursday, 17 April 2014 14:02 (Yesterday) Permalink

guys I'm pretty sure that all of your experiences can be extrapolated from mine and I listen to pop all the time so I don't know how you can claim that you don't hear it???!?

forum enthusiast (wins), Thursday, 17 April 2014 14:07 (Yesterday) Permalink

did someone says somehthng? Whats/? rock

waterbabies (waterface), Thursday, 17 April 2014 14:09 (Yesterday) Permalink

People Love Watching 'Happy' Pharrell Cry for Oprah (Video)

keep calm and nahkchivan (how's life), Thursday, 17 April 2014 14:13 (Yesterday) Permalink

don't you guys want to know what that's about?

keep calm and nahkchivan (how's life), Thursday, 17 April 2014 14:15 (Yesterday) Permalink

waterbabies (waterface), Thursday, 17 April 2014 14:16 (Yesterday) Permalink

Happy was in Despicable Me 2 before it was a hit #earlyadopter #dadswag

Juelz Fantano (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 April 2014 14:21 (Yesterday) Permalink

tbh those of you who don't grocery shop to the strains of delilah are missing out

maura, Thursday, 17 April 2014 15:05 (Yesterday) Permalink

I loved the post of all magazine covers. We can all relate to those times when you walk past a news stand and the cover blares Katy Perry's "Dark Horse" at you at a deafening volume

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 17 April 2014 15:15 (Yesterday) Permalink

Christ what a nightmarish vision

forum enthusiast (wins), Thursday, 17 April 2014 15:18 (Yesterday) Permalink

Lady Gaga puking on a human face, forever

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 17 April 2014 15:21 (Yesterday) Permalink

They should make Us Weekly with that little chip they put in greeting cards that play 30 secs of a tune

Juelz Fantano (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 April 2014 15:55 (Yesterday) Permalink

ums, you shouldn't be giving that stuff away like that!

keep calm and nahkchivan (how's life), Thursday, 17 April 2014 15:58 (Yesterday) Permalink

here's happy and blurred lines for those who still haven't heard them yet

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 April 2014 17:23 (Yesterday) Permalink

forks, what are those links? I keep getting a weird error message about "unusual traffic from your computer".

keep calm and nahkchivan (how's life), Thursday, 17 April 2014 17:38 (Yesterday) Permalink

i love the big showstopping frozen song. it's the best part of the movie!

my kids and their school have a talent/variety show tonight at the grange hall. i'll report back. got a lot of adele last year. rufus and his friend are doing ANOTHER of monsters and men song. *sigh* that's two years in a row. kinda hoping for a "wrecking ball". little kid solo at a keyboard doing stuff like that can make you cry like a baby a la langley music school.

scott seward, Thursday, 17 April 2014 17:57 (Yesterday) Permalink

sigh, they're youtube links to "don't worry be happy" and "got to give it up"
youtube doesn't think i'm funny either

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 April 2014 21:40 (Yesterday) Permalink

Is Bobby McFerrin some kind of joke to you?

Sufjan Cougar Mellencamp (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 17 April 2014 21:49 (Yesterday) Permalink

YouTube otm

Sufjan Cougar Mellencamp (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 17 April 2014 21:49 (Yesterday) Permalink

jk don't worry be happy now

Sufjan Cougar Mellencamp (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 17 April 2014 21:57 (Yesterday) Permalink

*whistles a sad tune*

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 April 2014 05:43 (5 hours ago) Permalink

y'know i was working a show that bobby mcferrin headlined last year and at the end a couple of ushers wouldn't stop yelling "don't worry be happy!" during the encore applause and i thought at first they were making fun of him but as it happened they were just telling him to sing it. he completely ignored them.

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 April 2014 05:46 (4 hours ago) Permalink

So you could go and watch Bobby McFerrin live and not even get to see 'Don't Worry, Be Happy'? What kind of next level bullshit is that?

Doran, Friday, 18 April 2014 07:55 (2 hours ago) Permalink

i'm assuming you're being facetious but on the off chance you're not: mcferrin has had a 25 year career since 'don't worry be happy' that includes about twenty albums and multiple grammy wins. don't worry will likely be the first line of his obit but it's not at all indicative of the range, scope and excellence of his work or of his pretty spectacular live performance

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 April 2014 08:20 (2 hours ago) Permalink

Bollocks to that

recommend me a new bagman (darraghmac), Friday, 18 April 2014 08:48 (1 hour ago) Permalink


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