Why does Lady Gaga get a free pass from hipsters?

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how will she go on??? ;_;

there's a perfectly good lady gaga thread at

Lady Gaga needs her own thread

ppl could bump that one with gaga news since it doesn't have a stupid Q in the title

people pick the worst possible threads to bump here all the time (for instance, "Haiti: WTF?" became the post-earthquake thread and "If you hate J.D. Salinger sooooooo much" the official RIP thread), at least with this one it's funny to keep reviving it.

"Haiti: WTF?" became the post-earthquake thread

WOW.

yeah...i kind of stared at it on the New Answers page for the longest time with my jaw hanging open

how is this a bad thread to bump????

are you an alien?

yes

why does lady gaga get a free pass from martians?

it's a dumb thing to bump because there was a thread with actual discussion in it that people use all the time and wasn't started by a sockpuppet

this one has a better title tho

It's gonna be weird looking back at stuff in decades to come and seeing people riled up about hipster this and hipster that. It's like people complaining about beatniks, or Dean Martin going on about the Rolling Stones.

lady gaga doesnt work with with my personal brand

whose sockpuppet was makeitpop?

She's very Kafkaesque

... meaning she looks like a giant beetle?

Why did Baby Gaga get a free Pabst from hipsters?

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/Linkman81/PabstBlueRibbon.png

why do white people hate lady gaga?

http://thequietus.com/articles/03783-why-lady-gaga-beats-lou-reed-david-bowie-and-iggy-pop-in-a-chicken-minute

We’re slap-bang in the middle of a pop era which is seeing singers knowingly redefining themselves and creating personas. Every single one of them is aping GaGa’s moves. Beyonce wanted a piece of the GaGa action and Rihanna went from being the archetypal ghetto hustler to someone between the two.

yessir

gaga is awesome

I dunno about Rihanna -- her image kinda is what it is since before Gaga hit, and the changes she have made seem far more tied to the Chris Brown thing than any attempt to respond to passing trends

sry yeah that was a sarcastic yessir

look at that writer! look at them! everyone quick look at them! be outraged! QUICK PLEASE LOOK AT THEM!

haha -- well Beyonce I would actually agree with, she wasn't doing anything remotely like the "Videophone" vid before Gaga, but Rihanna's new videos are totally of a piece with "Disturbia," "Shut Up And Drive," various award show performances, etc.

so glad lady gaga invented being weird and arty--really hope this catches on!

nina who? klaus what?

it seems like the quietes runs a lot of terrible articles not about indie music

http://ichlugebullets.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/mof-gimmers-white-man-be-listening-to-lady-gaga-like-this-black-man-be-listening-to-lady-gaga-like-this/

weird thing about this quietus thing is i'm pretty sure everyone including rock critics have pretty fully embraced lady gaga by now. who is he even talking about?

<3 dom

such a sad loss

being called mof gimmers really is about as british as it gets isn't it?

Can we bring Dom back?

this sentence

Beyonce wanted a piece of the GaGa action and Rihanna went from being the archetypal ghetto hustler to someone between the two.

kind of invalidates the whole idea that mof gimmers is qualified to talk abt contemporary pop music

Can we bring Dom back?

― ksh, Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:00 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

the question that had to be asked

The most obviously stupid thing about it is that all of the Gaga fans I know are white. Very white.
Is 'the ghetto' currently full of black folks who really 'get it' and are rollin with Just Dance pumping out of their car stereos, laughing at all of us whities who only get down to Tom Petty and Joanna Newsom? :-(

black people = cultural legitimacy, white people = thieves and colonizers, dorks. Same old stuff.

As in, argument tropes white people make to assert points.

dom was an unpleasant bro iirc, also crepey

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aw it's cute that you're still holding a torch, hope he appreciates it.

i don't want to give the quietus my custom by clicking the link again but wtf was with john doran's defensive comment frenzy? nagl.

he genuinely doesn't realize that describing Rihanna as the archetypal ghetto hustler should disqualify you from writing about popular music.

aw it's cute that you're still holding a torch, hope he appreciates it.

o no u dint

"i don't want to give the quietus my custom by clicking the link again but wtf was with john doran's defensive comment frenzy? nagl."

Best bit about that was how, when his argument got completely dismantled by fellow commenters he went into panic mode and resorted to ad hom-ish "LOL U CAN'T SPELL 'AVANT GARDE' LOL" tricks.

Generally I find this whole discussion about what black and white people listen to boring (why do they have to listen to different stuff in the first place?), but I still find that black people don't deserve to be underrated in that one believes they are only interested in manufactored and mass produced corporate pop. I would choose to believe black people are also able to understand artistic value in pop music, and pop music as having actual artistic merit rather than just business.

And Lady Gaga's fans are probably mostly white anyway.

And btw I also hope the same goes for white middle class people. That they don't let the upper class moneymen steal all their money with manufactured plastic pop, and that the middle class aren't alone in actually preferring more artistically thought out music.

I'm still laughing/offended at the term 'archetypal ghetto hustler' that's some bullshit...
The argument that black people do not really appreciate music with actual merit is totally false, you just have to look at the history of black culture and music to see that.
As for Rihanna, she is only able to be 'weird and edgy' because she's been so successful and has such an aggressive and smart marketing, production team etc. Plus other artists clearly paved the way like Grace Jones, Kelis, M.I.A and if anyone is aping Lady GaGa it is only because that is what is selling right now. If you don't really write your own lyrics (LIKE BEYONCE) or generally have any creative input into your music/style/image/personality (like Rihanna) then clearly you're only going to be about what will make you lots of dollar. It really just comes down to money imo.

The argument that black people do not really appreciate music with actual merit is totally false, you just have to look at the history of black culture and music to see that.

good to know

Lol sorry if I sound patronising