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fucking hell

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:08 (nine years ago) link

what clothing company is that for?

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:09 (nine years ago) link

that commercial : /

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:10 (nine years ago) link

5 seconds after it ends a bunch of russian mob dudes come in blazing

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:12 (nine years ago) link

looool

unified theory of objectionable thoughts (latebloomer), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:14 (nine years ago) link

That ad makes me want to cut off my own dick.

uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:15 (nine years ago) link

THERE WAS A TIME WHEN

Matt P, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:15 (nine years ago) link

* Men
* Women
* Fit Guide
* Man-ifesto

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:16 (nine years ago) link

dos equis most interesting man commercials to thread

xp btw Hoot thinking that thought makes you cRaZy

being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:16 (nine years ago) link

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh thank you for bringing this to my attention

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:17 (nine years ago) link

dos equis ads are at least pretty tongue-in-cheek

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:17 (nine years ago) link

http://contexts.org/socimages/tag/gender-masculinity/

harbl, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:19 (nine years ago) link

Holding Doors Open For Women

uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:20 (nine years ago) link

being a man is about being a good human being imo

Matt P, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:21 (nine years ago) link

maybe dockers will help u

Matt P, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:21 (nine years ago) link

this makes me think of some of the things Susan Faludi talks about in her book Stiffed, which is like ten years old now, about how men were the next great unexploited fashion/beauty market.

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:22 (nine years ago) link

Aren't Dockers for middle-aged fat-asses?

uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:22 (nine years ago) link

idk but the point is to feel cool when you buy them

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:26 (nine years ago) link

Aren't Dockers for middle-aged fat-asses?

― uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Tuesday, December 8, 2009 7:22 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

u are the target audience

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:33 (nine years ago) link

"actually -- little known historical fact that, when men were men, prior to disco, khakis were only worny by the ruggedest of bros"

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:33 (nine years ago) link

Virtually the same style:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl6ZAXytvjY

Cosmic Ugg (S-), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:35 (nine years ago) link

this is the point at which everybody who made "ironic" lol sexism joaks in the 90s & 00s now has to pay for it by gouging their eyes out and dancing on them

ow my eyes

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:02 (nine years ago) link

thank god i was an adolescent and actually sexist, whew

being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:04 (nine years ago) link

that khakis ad is so preposterous i cannot imagine taking it srsly on any level

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:04 (nine years ago) link

the real question it poses--when will derisive "latte" comments become passe?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:04 (nine years ago) link

when will it be ok for men to eat salad again? how do you guys live on these all steak diets

harbl, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:06 (nine years ago) link

just had my 17th heart attack tbh

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:07 (nine years ago) link

i had a (bison) steak AND a salad for dinner tonight i will have you know

being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:08 (nine years ago) link

so you are like 50% man now

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:10 (nine years ago) link

killed a man, too

being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:10 (nine years ago) link

This does remind me of a thread i wanted to start, about how the only time I ever use the phrase "men" or "women" seems to involve marketing pitches for Boomers, or gay bars. It's like "Magazine for Men" or "Bars for Men" I automatically equate to "gay-targeted". I mean, almost all of the males I ever encountered above the age of 18 fall into the category of "dudes," "guys", "fellas", "bros", or "homies".

I worked with a guy who talked about how they'd go on a "men's retreat" every year, which was pretty much just a chance to head out to the Oregon deserts and bro down with buddies with dune buggies.

kingfish, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:10 (nine years ago) link

stole his salad

being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:10 (nine years ago) link

wait so is driving dune buggies in the OR desert w/yr "bros" a gay thing????

8[

being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:11 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bQlSr9YjLc

here's to young white dudes and maybe firefighters can earn their way in maybe

unforgivable Jaqness (tremendoid), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:13 (nine years ago) link

here's to assholes

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:14 (nine years ago) link

lol what is that music?

Dan S, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:16 (nine years ago) link

gbx, what kind of fork did you eat with?

uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:18 (nine years ago) link

if its plastic you're down to 45% man

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:21 (nine years ago) link

being a man is about being a good human being imo

Psshaww I bet you enjoy eating salads

... with a PLASTIC FORK no doubt!

lukevalentine, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:24 (nine years ago) link

the real question it poses--when will derisive "latte" comments become passe?

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, December 8, 2009 6:04 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

i guess when derisive salad and disco comments become passe. which if judging by the durability of hairy lesbian comments = never.

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:24 (nine years ago) link

ha lol everyone already made that joke i see

xp

lukevalentine, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:25 (nine years ago) link

wait so is driving dune buggies in the OR desert w/yr "bros" a gay thing????

No, it's a perfectly acceptable bros thing.

kingfish, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:25 (nine years ago) link

that ad at the top is a take-you-aside-and-be-serious version of a bad standup routine

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:26 (nine years ago) link

Maybe you're not supposed to use utensils at all.

uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:27 (nine years ago) link

this IS desert season btw, no better time to throw a few cases of natty ice in the F-150, hook up the dirtbikes and roll out to glamis or gordon's well and fuckin BRO. DOWN. BRODER.

iiiijjjj, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:27 (nine years ago) link

that sounds awesome but i guess i'm not invited

harbl, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:28 (nine years ago) link

bro if you're heading out pick up some burreets or a double-double for the noshage

iiiijjjj, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:28 (nine years ago) link

when it comes to oil-related accessories, would there be separate ones for the leather and the hair or some kind of artisanally formulated combo oil

j., Sunday, 1 September 2019 03:38 (two months ago) link

I bought some Dove for Men soap today, because some doofus was standing in front of the regular Dove soaps spacing out and I had melting ice cream in my cart. But I like it! It's charcoal and clay so I am assuming it will make me a better, more exfoliated artist.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 1 September 2019 04:16 (two months ago) link

well if you've never dove for men, how masculine can you really be?

pplains, Sunday, 1 September 2019 04:36 (two months ago) link

I was thinking Beard Boots might be like a normal Boots but with the one beard isle cut-and-pasted thru the shop so we don't have to wall past the No 7s and sanitary pads because we are Men With Beards

thomasintrouble, Sunday, 1 September 2019 13:17 (two months ago) link

He’s gonna get so rich selling Mangria, 3-wick Mandles, strappy Mandals, Ceiling Mans to circulate air in your sultry den, Mandlebar Mustache Wax for Men, Pots & Mans, Sunman Lotion, Minimans for driving mini men & daughters, I guess. https://t.co/iEOzorJJTc

— Caissie St.Onge (@Caissie) September 10, 2019

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 03:56 (two months ago) link

Sign up now to get a monthly bundle of masculine merchandise - macho cheese dip, him milk, etc. - called...

Wait for it...

MALEbox

And the wind... cries... Larry (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:24 (two months ago) link

order before midnight and receive a ramekin of pure man spunk

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:29 (two months ago) link

That's a Manekin to you, buddy! Try to stay on brand.

☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:35 (two months ago) link

living up to his potential of being a living, breathing, spencer's gifts mall store circa 1995

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:08 (two months ago) link

He's also got an Endless Rant lager and IPA that I've seen on the shelves.

nickn, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:15 (two months ago) link

Finally, a dutch oven for men, who like black and prisons and stuff. pic.twitter.com/W3Vz8s8mr6

— Ian Bogost (@ibogost) September 12, 2019

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 September 2019 19:04 (two months ago) link

downright kinky

cheese canopy (map), Thursday, 12 September 2019 20:06 (two months ago) link

Would anyone recommend a current (or not, doesn't really matter) text on the role/state/'problem' of masculinity? Context: we're trying to find a coherent approach in school and I want to be up to speed with current thinking.

Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Friday, 13 September 2019 09:54 (two months ago) link

Try r/inceltears

Ramen? No thanks, I prefer them cooked (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 13 September 2019 12:04 (two months ago) link

www.ilxor.com/thisthread

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Friday, 13 September 2019 13:25 (two months ago) link

The recycled prison steel dutch oven is actually pretty cool, but in a "upcycling is fun pseudo-ethics" way and not a "ONLY THE MANLIEST POTS FOR MY INEDIBLY SPICY MAN CHILI" way. My partner, who is a lady, agrees.

Three Word Username, Friday, 13 September 2019 13:46 (two months ago) link

This thread is basically all I need but I was after something encompassing and academic to quote from. I was being lazy; I'll go do some digging.

That incels subreddit is grim. They themselves are hell.

Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Friday, 13 September 2019 14:19 (two months ago) link

Jared Yates Sexton has some essays and a book that might work for class. (He’s also doing a fireside chat with Henry Rollins about masculinity at this fall’s Chicago Humanities Festival.)

https://www.yesmagazine.org/peace-justice/white-masculinity-toxic-trauma-20190424

... (Eazy), Friday, 13 September 2019 14:56 (two months ago) link

I haven't read it but I would think some excerpts from the Terry Crews book might be worthwhile.

Yerac, Friday, 13 September 2019 15:00 (two months ago) link

hmmm, for some reason I thought that book was much more recent.

Yerac, Friday, 13 September 2019 15:03 (two months ago) link

Also for a class, there are some decent TED Talks that could cover the basics, like this one.

... (Eazy), Friday, 13 September 2019 15:03 (two months ago) link

https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300171211/boyhoods

budo jeru, Friday, 13 September 2019 16:02 (two months ago) link

Thanks for the resources. I probably wasn't clear - this isn't really for the classroom (at least, not initially); it's more about trying to get a sense of the landscape and how we might tackle the gender gap in performance.

I've been reading Boys Don't Try? It's good. https://www.crcpress.com/Boys-Dont-Try-Rethinking-Masculinity-in-Schools/Pinkett-Roberts/p/book/9780815350255

Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Friday, 13 September 2019 18:17 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

https://s.put.re/9JMRwPeK.jpg
https://s.put.re/ZEzhCDac.jpg

Philip Nunez, Monday, 14 October 2019 23:11 (one month ago) link

think i just blew chunks

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 October 2019 23:28 (one month ago) link

you mean CHUNXX

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 14 October 2019 23:35 (one month ago) link

with Wild Rice and Hearty Cumin Broth

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 14 October 2019 23:36 (one month ago) link

is that actually soup or something with soup?

kinder, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:51 (four weeks ago) link

probably has the consistency to be eaten in a sandwich. I value this kind of flexibility.

maffew12, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:54 (four weeks ago) link

actually those are scented candles

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:59 (four weeks ago) link

irl lol

kinder, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 16:04 (four weeks ago) link

I think there's also a degree of Jean-Pierre Faye's horseshoe theory here where masculine-marketed foods and premium dog food curve together and begin to overlap

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 16:16 (four weeks ago) link

^ swear to god I saw a dog treat ad the other day that I considered posting to this thread, but I can’t remember what product it was. Something like “vegan dog food doesn’t exist.. respect their primal urges”

blows with the wind donors (crüt), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 16:53 (four weeks ago) link

I have a 1/4 baked idea for a thinkpiece I'll never write about the meaning of each era's particular nutrient obsession and its relation to that age. There certainly seems to be something about "protein" being the current one that connects to the whole marketing of masculinity/lifting/beardcare culture.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 17:35 (four weeks ago) link

Worms are an excellent source of protein. There must be some way to change the image of "eating worms" from something done on playgrounds by sniveling weaklings while bullies laugh at them, to a daring, edgy sign of fearlessness, done mostly by wilderness survival savants who also sleep in debris shelters and kill cougars with their bare hands.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:28 (four weeks ago) link

(Meanwhile, gluten is just waiting its turn to reemerge as the Glamor Ingredient. "ok y'all hate me now but YOU'LL BE BACK!")

Sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:33 (four weeks ago) link

A pizza parlor here had an EXTRA GLUTEN special

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:34 (four weeks ago) link

Whatevs, I'm still ride or die with the Irish Coffee Diet (fat, sugar, alcohol, and caffeine)

Sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:37 (four weeks ago) link

actually those are scented candles

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, October 15, 2019 8:59 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

my guess was hair gel

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:42 (four weeks ago) link

First sentence of its marketing info: "Let's face it: bacon makes everything better."

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:04 (four weeks ago) link

Worms are an excellent source of protein. There must be some way to change the image of "eating worms" from something done on playgrounds by sniveling weaklings while bullies laugh at them, to a daring, edgy sign of fearlessness, done mostly by wilderness survival savants who also sleep in debris shelters and kill cougars with their bare hands.

― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, October 15, 2019 1:28 PM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

*crickets*
https://exoprotein.com/

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:20 (four weeks ago) link

crickets are cuddly compared to worms

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:24 (four weeks ago) link

you mean crunchy

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 21:41 (four weeks ago) link

i googled this and i came up with a bunch of amsr videos

i assume it's some sort of vore fetish thing?

Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 01:58 (four weeks ago) link

When bug-eating becomes mandatory due to enviro catastrophe there will be SO MANY commercials for, like, Tactical Cockroach Crunch Bars.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 02:29 (four weeks ago) link

Snowpiercer got there first

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 02:54 (four weeks ago) link

love 2 add the word “tactical” to things

brimstead, Sunday, 27 October 2019 04:49 (two weeks ago) link

^^^

mookieproof, Sunday, 27 October 2019 04:59 (two weeks ago) link


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