Twitter C/D

what's the point when you have FB status updates?

I'm an addict.

The status updates on facebook are one of my favourite aspects of FB, so I liked the idea of twitter when I first heard about it a week or so ago. I've signed up, but it hasn't stuck with me as yet, I think because none of my friends are using it.

It's reduced all my literary ambitions down to daily one-liners: twitter.com/fireland

So much hate for Twitter. So much.

Twitter is for productivity douche-bags and aspirational web developers.

I used to use Twitter quite a lot, but Facebook status updates reach a lot more of my friends, and I can do them from my phone as easily as a Twitter so I've kind of abandoned it.

I think Twitter is good for publishing interesting links and news and things, and for asking advice from the microblogosphere, but for the latter you'd need a whole load of like-minded followers and it's hard to get there.

I think I will have to use it for a while before I decide if I love it or hate it.

There was this thread, by the way:

twittervision

we've def. had a twitter thread before because i remember checking out the twitter homepage to see what the fuss was about, and i just happened to see alba make an update. then i told him about it here.

dats it

TWITTER: I don't get it

CIO/KIU: using ilx like twitter

I just spent another fifteen minutes going down the rabbit hole with this shit clicking on follower avatars
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2008/20080423.jpg
the text of the last panel could possibly be sold as a t-shirt

the weather alert stuff and airport delay announcement feeds seem vaguely useful but it remains the absolute dumbest shit I've ever seen since friendster

I mean what use is something that's supposed to provide low-bandwidth status updates on EVERY STUPID PIDDLING THING EVER IN THE WORLD if it also happens to be breaking constantly

identi.ca is ugly and has a terrible name, as with squoink and jaiku and whatever else, which just goes to show you what actually matters

http://www.soup.io/

IT'S THE NEW TEEVEE

let me make sure to get back here and write you guys some more about how I feel about the web's direction in a little bit

yeah I still think it is all weird and gross

"the microblogosphere"

http://www.the-trukstop.com/miscellaneous/socialmediacrity/warbbler.png

I use Twitter to keep up with a very small handful of friends (FreakyTrigger mob mostly) so mine is mostly a collection of stupid injokes that come to my mobile. I like that a lot, saves me having to text loads of people at once, but it freaks me out when I see random strangers following me. I have to purge my followers list about once a week.

I used to use Twitter quite a lot, but Facebook status updates reach a lot more of my friends, and I can do them from my phone as easily as a Twitter so I've kind of abandoned it

this is a shame, because your minute-by-minute update from "control" was fucking genius. for the few minutes it lasted.

you'd need a whole load of like-minded followers and it's hard to get there.
This is the key, really. Twitter got some ferocious use at wwdc, and was v. good for finding out what was giong on where, and what sessions to leave, etc, but it doesn't work so well if you've just trucked up in some random place.

There's a twitter client for iPhone that might help with that though -- it shows you all the updates from folks in your location.

this is a shame, because your minute-by-minute update from "control" was fucking genius. for the few minutes it lasted.

People were complaining!

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1640#more-1640

as usual

the end of twitter in the UK? er: yes, as far as i can see. i don't want to have to *look* for tweets. i want them to come to me:

Hi,

I'm sending you this note because you registered a mobile device
to work with Twitter over our UK number. I wanted to let you
know that we are making some changes to the way SMS works on
Twitter. There is some good news and some bad news.

I'll start with the bad news. Beginning today, Twitter is no
longer delivering outbound SMS over our UK number. If you enjoy
receiving updates from Twitter via +44 762 480 1423, we are
recommending that you explore some suggested alternatives.

Note: You will still be able to UPDATE over our UK number.

Before I go into more detail, here's a bit of good news: Twitter
will be introducing several new, local SMS numbers in countries
throughout Europe in the coming weeks and months. These new
numbers will make Twittering more accessible for you if you've
been using SMS to send long-distance updates from outside the UK.

Why are we making these changes?

Mobile operators in most of the world charge users to send
updates. When you send one message to Twitter and we send it to
ten followers, you aren't charged ten times--that's because we've
been footing the bill. When we launched our free SMS service to
the world, we set the clock ticking. As the service grew in
popularity, so too would the price.

Our challenge during this window of time was to establish
relationships with mobile operators around the world such that
our SMS services could become sustainable from a cost perspective.
We achieved this goal in Canada, India, and the United States.
We can provide full incoming and outgoing SMS service without
passing along operator fees in these countries.

We took a risk hoping to bring more nations onboard and more
mobile operators around to our way of thinking but we've arrived
at a point where the responsible thing to do is slow our costs
and take a different approach. Since you probably don't live in
Canada, India, or the US, we recommend receiving your Twitter
updates via one of the following methods.

m.twitter.com works on browser-enabled phones
m.slandr.net works on browser-enabled phones
TwitterMail.com works on email-enabled phones
Cellity [http://bit.ly/12bw4R] works on java-enabled phones
TwitterBerry [http://bit.ly/MFAfJ] works on BlackBerry phones
Twitterific [http://bit.ly/1WxjwQ] works on iPhones

Twitter SMS by The Numbers

It pains us to take this measure. However, we need to avoid
placing undue burden on our company and our service. Even with a
limit of 250 messages received per week, it could cost Twitter
about $1,000 per user, per year to send SMS outside of Canada,
India, or the US. It makes more sense for us to establish fair
billing arrangements with mobile operators than it does to pass
these high fees on to our users.

Twitter will continue to negotiate with mobile operators in
Europe, Asia, China, and The Americas to forge relationships
that benefit all our users. Our goal is to provide full, two-way
service with Twitter via SMS to every nation in a way that is
sustainable from a cost perspective. Talks with mobile companies
around the world continue. In the meantime, more local numbers
for updating via SMS are on the way. We'll keep you posted.

Thank you for your attention,
Biz Stone, Co-founder
Twitter, Inc.
http://twitter.com/biz

I never understood why anyone would want tweets pushed to them. I get excited when I receive a text. I don't want to find it's some spazz like me telling the world they've found an odd-coloured bogey up their nose.

it would be nice, when the iphone's push service is switched on, if twitter would push messages down to twitterific - this would solve the 'excited when I receive a text only to find it's about a bogey' problem

If my phone had let me assign unique message alert tones to numbers like it does with ringtones and voice calls then the problem might have gone away.

Maybe the fundamental problem is that I'm not interested enough in other people.

most of twitter is exquisitely described in metaphor by that news story about the inflatable turd named "Complex Shit" blowing away and breaking actual stuff that matters

of course being me I would say the same for pretty much everything "web 2.0"

actually, i'd follow a tombot twitter feed. furious cynicism at unexpected moments could be fun.

i guess twitterific might step up to the plate here, but then again: it can't run in the background on the iPhone, can it?

(this, incidentally, is my first ILX post from my shiny new iMac.)

creepy

13.28
cozeny Wondering out loud what we'd need to start a UK group SMS system and take Twitter's market: Ruby developers, time, money, and Red Bull... ? 9 minutes ago from web

13.37
Hi, cozeny.

tweetsms (tweetsms) is now following your updates on Twitter.

Check out tweetsms's profile here:

http://twitter.com/tweetsms

You may follow tweetsms as well by clicking on the "follow" button.

Best,
Twitter

tweetsms
http://www.tweetSMS.com will be available worldwide across almost all carriers. We also plan to deploy an ad-based service for free updates.
38 minutes ago from web

@PurpleKitchen check out www.tweetsms.com about 2 hours ago from web in reply to PurpleKitchen

just uploaded http://www.tweetsms.com to help all of those international SMS users! about 2 hours ago from web

Used it cause I was excited (are you still an early adopter a full year after the SXSW explosion of use?), then didn't for a few months cause I didn't really see the point, now I'm usin it again cause I've had some new local friends start following me.

Good for questions, link-sharing, Microemo bursts, etc.

I have a friend who uses this to read his friends' feeds, so I basically only see it from the angle of a person who is constantly checking his phone while I'm trying to have a conversation with him. The first time I heard of Twitter was from him when I finally got exasperated with his constantly checking his phone.

Maybe I'm the one with the problem, but I can't really think of anyone in the world interesting enough for me to want updates on their activities throughout the day. I'd say the only people I could imagine wanting to twitter could be: Drug smuggler, violent prison inmate, Slash-in-his-heyday type rock star, and a dog (if they somehow managed to translate its thoughts into English text).

don't use it, don't know anyone who does, but i check this one all the time: http://twitter.com/MarsPhoenix

i very very rarely check it on my phone. does mobile use seem to be the prominent use?

SMS functionality seems to be its USP now that Facebook status updates have taken the mainstream microblogging space.

As I said above, people using it for pushed news bulletins and question-broadcasting rather than personal what-i'm-doing stuff is another application.

(I think you can now do Facebook by SMS in America, actually, but not here)

SMS is a fucking trilobite technology

I followed @johncleese back when his followers were in the double digits.

Seriously someone FedEx me a fucking medal already.

how the fuck are they planning to make money? Also, they could easily have charged for this in Europe, and at least started making some actual income for a change.

so: brightkite, then. anyone played about with it much? i'm not sure i can particularly be arsed, TBH.

Twinkle is useful to see if there's trouble on my tram line or the local cafe is on fire.

ON IPHONE

Brightkite seems particularly marvelous, actually. Like Twitter with upgrades.

Thanks Noodles, going to try a few of those.

Moddles, I mean, need to switch auto correct off

thanks for that link, moodles! for those who won't click through but might be interested:

By adding a few strings—little bits of code used by Twitter to tag types of tweets—to your muted keywords list, you can change the way the Twitter algorithm sends content to your feed.

While logged in to Twitter, go to Settings > Notifications > Muted > Muted words, and add the strings below.

suggest_activity_tweet: Stops the platform from feeding you tweets you might like
suggest_recycled_tweet_inline: Stops repeated tweets from appearing over and over
suggest_pyle_tweet: Stops serving tweets because mutuals engaged with them
suggest_grouped_tweet_hashtag: Stops tweets associated with popular hashtags from appearing randomly in your timeline
suggest_who_to_follow: Self-explanatory
generic-activity-momentsbreaking: Keep tweets served simply because they're part of a Moment out of your feed

haha, is "suggest_pyle_tweet" a reference to nathan pyle?

gomer pyle? stop getting tweets from those gomers

i mean, i've engaged with my fair share of nathan pyle tweets, so i could be contributing to this problem for my mutuals. they're family friendly but actually funny!

u can get a chronological feed just by selecting latest tweets instead of home from that menu thats at the top of da app fellas

.. and keep selecting it every two days when it switches back BY ITSELF

what, you want a setting to permanently switch it to latest tweets instead of top tweets?

jack can implement that. but the catch is that now you must click the setting to permanently switch it to latest tweets...every two days

mwahahaha! yes!!

it’s so sadistic

what we need is a new push notification every two days to remind us to switch it to latest tweets. and in that notification, they might as well go ahead and embed some top tweets, since you're already looking

I get emails from Twitter with tweets from the same account (which I don't follow!) every day or so. No idea why.

McDonald's has a really rude bot. I posted a really, really old McDonald's commercial to YouTube. I didn't even criticize McDonald's. I didn't use a hashtag. There wasn't even the word "McDonald's" in my tweet. All I said was that their fries have changed dramatically over the years. And I get this bot tweet, "please fill out this form with your concerns". How Orwellian and creepy.

from YouTube, not to.

At least now you do have some concerns

I complained about a costcutter on twitter because they were charging £5 for a little bag of penne, since then their social media person has been asking me which one it was, but I just wanted to whinge, not to snitch, so am ignoring it.

switching on and off the algorithm taught me that the difference between 'latest tweets' and algo is minimal. also, if u folllow ppl from the uk or australia, the algo shows you their best tweets in the morning

their social media person has been asking me which one it was, but I just wanted to whinge, not to snitch

@Tesco am no a grass

— Nina Bibs (@ninabibs_gla) March 23, 2015

Any time you make a mistake on this platform, you can at least take solace in the fact that you didn't try to explain MLK Jr. to... MLK III pic.twitter.com/uUhnPFAPdt

— Jason Bailey (@jasondashbailey) May 29, 2020

There is a thing going on right now where kpop fans flood racist hashtags with their ubiquitous "kpop stars dancing" gifs.

https://news.avclub.com/k-pop-fans-are-now-hard-at-work-commandeering-racist-ha-1843880487

Now please tell me if I'm wrong here, but doesn't flooding a hashtag actually make it trend? So what they are doing is actually bumping racist hashtags AND subjecting us to more of those inexplicable gifs? Am I wrong about this or is it actually as stupid as I think?

I still use the website and have set it to show Berlin trends and saw WhiteLivesMatter at the top of that list earlier - didn't actually click it just assumed it was 20% bot stampede and 80% horrified reaction.

That's the one. 100% kpop dancing gifs. What is the point? Why is it there?

individually people are pretty dumb, together they are infinitely so

no they aren't

image spamming trolls is a time-honoured internet tradition

I get image spamming, but when it amplifies a racist hashtag then surely it's counterproductive.

? The hashtag was already beginning to trend. That's why the kpop trolls intervened.

was it though? it suddenly appeared right at the top of my trending topics and was already full of the gifs. I guess perhaps it was pushed up there by bots or w/e in one location, then the flooding made it trend everywhere.

It's not trending for me, but "BlueLivesMatters" is

yeah, it's gone for me too now

if u dont like the kpop fans flooding racist websites, they took a whole police snitch app down btw, then you have to fight me and im gonna dance on yr ass like bts

Flooding a hashtag with posts that have nothing to do with the hashtag is just fighting fire with fire, it’s a known troll farm tactic and is also used by psyops pros (OK, same diff)

Or all those black squares under #blacklivesmatter.

i'm willing to stipulate that k-pop fans know much more about social media algorithms than we do

they are battle tested

this is really up there with "our juggalo comrades are a strong and necessary flank in the fight against fascism"

Aren’t they?

I wasn't citing that in disapproval :)

So what they are doing is actually bumping racist hashtags AND subjecting us to more of those inexplicable gifs?

the posts get promoted, they make less sense (and clog up the space for anyone interested in making functional use of the hashtag), fewer people who see them mimic the behavior or redirect it into their own networks - it's like gresham's law but for when you actually want the good money to be driven out by the bad

so Twitter puts the little blue notification for on the app icon if there are any new tweets in your timeline, huh. that's helpful

do you have any new tweets right now

I would like for there to be a blue notification dot on the little birdie icon when someone has replied to me or rt me, only then

the kpop kids have shown us all how to harness the forces of stan culture for good:

OPERATION #BLUEFALL.
8AM PST.

FUCK THAT PRIDEFALL SHIT, LETS TAKE IT & MAKE IT MORAL. THIS PRIDE MONTH. LETS FUCKING GO.

RT & QUOTE WITH YOUR LOCAL @‘S. WE ARE BLUEING OUT THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA WITH THEIR OFFICERS BRUTALITY.

LOS ANGELES:@MayorOfLA @LAPDHQ @LAPDChiefMoore pic.twitter.com/tAApz35WwN

— elijah daniel (@elijahdaniel) June 4, 2020

ARIANA GRADE STANS, 1D STANS, BARBZ. I SUMMON YOU TO COME TOGETHER FOR #BLUEFALL https://t.co/5gIF5p9z43

— elijah daniel (@elijahdaniel) June 4, 2020

https://i.imgur.com/NVXPWO3.png

it's a lifestyle

twidder

dud

classic now for constantly fucking w trump

I liked a tweet a couple of weeks ago & it is having significant good irl consequences so I'm all mixed up about it.

you guys it's so much worse than any of us thought... I clicked a tweet in a thread and swear to god it took me to a place with many more tweets... tens of thousands of tweets, and each one more horrifying than the last. a veritable living nightmare. i fear that with these reserves at hand, tweets will soon outnumber posts by an insurmountable margin

they can't get in through the holes in the threads, those are one-way