Twitter C/D

what's the point when you have FB status updates?

I'm an addict.

The status updates on facebook are one of my favourite aspects of FB, so I liked the idea of twitter when I first heard about it a week or so ago. I've signed up, but it hasn't stuck with me as yet, I think because none of my friends are using it.

It's reduced all my literary ambitions down to daily one-liners: twitter.com/fireland

So much hate for Twitter. So much.

Twitter is for productivity douche-bags and aspirational web developers.

I used to use Twitter quite a lot, but Facebook status updates reach a lot more of my friends, and I can do them from my phone as easily as a Twitter so I've kind of abandoned it.

I think Twitter is good for publishing interesting links and news and things, and for asking advice from the microblogosphere, but for the latter you'd need a whole load of like-minded followers and it's hard to get there.

I think I will have to use it for a while before I decide if I love it or hate it.

There was this thread, by the way:

twittervision

we've def. had a twitter thread before because i remember checking out the twitter homepage to see what the fuss was about, and i just happened to see alba make an update. then i told him about it here.

dats it

TWITTER: I don't get it

CIO/KIU: using ilx like twitter

I just spent another fifteen minutes going down the rabbit hole with this shit clicking on follower avatars
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2008/20080423.jpg
the text of the last panel could possibly be sold as a t-shirt

the weather alert stuff and airport delay announcement feeds seem vaguely useful but it remains the absolute dumbest shit I've ever seen since friendster

I mean what use is something that's supposed to provide low-bandwidth status updates on EVERY STUPID PIDDLING THING EVER IN THE WORLD if it also happens to be breaking constantly

identi.ca is ugly and has a terrible name, as with squoink and jaiku and whatever else, which just goes to show you what actually matters

http://www.soup.io/

IT'S THE NEW TEEVEE

let me make sure to get back here and write you guys some more about how I feel about the web's direction in a little bit

yeah I still think it is all weird and gross

"the microblogosphere"

http://www.the-trukstop.com/miscellaneous/socialmediacrity/warbbler.png

I use Twitter to keep up with a very small handful of friends (FreakyTrigger mob mostly) so mine is mostly a collection of stupid injokes that come to my mobile. I like that a lot, saves me having to text loads of people at once, but it freaks me out when I see random strangers following me. I have to purge my followers list about once a week.

I used to use Twitter quite a lot, but Facebook status updates reach a lot more of my friends, and I can do them from my phone as easily as a Twitter so I've kind of abandoned it

this is a shame, because your minute-by-minute update from "control" was fucking genius. for the few minutes it lasted.

you'd need a whole load of like-minded followers and it's hard to get there.
This is the key, really. Twitter got some ferocious use at wwdc, and was v. good for finding out what was giong on where, and what sessions to leave, etc, but it doesn't work so well if you've just trucked up in some random place.

There's a twitter client for iPhone that might help with that though -- it shows you all the updates from folks in your location.

this is a shame, because your minute-by-minute update from "control" was fucking genius. for the few minutes it lasted.

People were complaining!

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1640#more-1640

as usual

the end of twitter in the UK? er: yes, as far as i can see. i don't want to have to *look* for tweets. i want them to come to me:

Hi,

I'm sending you this note because you registered a mobile device
to work with Twitter over our UK number. I wanted to let you
know that we are making some changes to the way SMS works on
Twitter. There is some good news and some bad news.

I'll start with the bad news. Beginning today, Twitter is no
longer delivering outbound SMS over our UK number. If you enjoy
receiving updates from Twitter via +44 762 480 1423, we are
recommending that you explore some suggested alternatives.

Note: You will still be able to UPDATE over our UK number.

Before I go into more detail, here's a bit of good news: Twitter
will be introducing several new, local SMS numbers in countries
throughout Europe in the coming weeks and months. These new
numbers will make Twittering more accessible for you if you've
been using SMS to send long-distance updates from outside the UK.

Why are we making these changes?

Mobile operators in most of the world charge users to send
updates. When you send one message to Twitter and we send it to
ten followers, you aren't charged ten times--that's because we've
been footing the bill. When we launched our free SMS service to
the world, we set the clock ticking. As the service grew in
popularity, so too would the price.

Our challenge during this window of time was to establish
relationships with mobile operators around the world such that
our SMS services could become sustainable from a cost perspective.
We achieved this goal in Canada, India, and the United States.
We can provide full incoming and outgoing SMS service without
passing along operator fees in these countries.

We took a risk hoping to bring more nations onboard and more
mobile operators around to our way of thinking but we've arrived
at a point where the responsible thing to do is slow our costs
and take a different approach. Since you probably don't live in
Canada, India, or the US, we recommend receiving your Twitter
updates via one of the following methods.

m.twitter.com works on browser-enabled phones
m.slandr.net works on browser-enabled phones
TwitterMail.com works on email-enabled phones
Cellity [http://bit.ly/12bw4R] works on java-enabled phones
TwitterBerry [http://bit.ly/MFAfJ] works on BlackBerry phones
Twitterific [http://bit.ly/1WxjwQ] works on iPhones

Twitter SMS by The Numbers

It pains us to take this measure. However, we need to avoid
placing undue burden on our company and our service. Even with a
limit of 250 messages received per week, it could cost Twitter
about $1,000 per user, per year to send SMS outside of Canada,
India, or the US. It makes more sense for us to establish fair
billing arrangements with mobile operators than it does to pass
these high fees on to our users.

Twitter will continue to negotiate with mobile operators in
Europe, Asia, China, and The Americas to forge relationships
that benefit all our users. Our goal is to provide full, two-way
service with Twitter via SMS to every nation in a way that is
sustainable from a cost perspective. Talks with mobile companies
around the world continue. In the meantime, more local numbers
for updating via SMS are on the way. We'll keep you posted.

Thank you for your attention,
Biz Stone, Co-founder
Twitter, Inc.
http://twitter.com/biz

I never understood why anyone would want tweets pushed to them. I get excited when I receive a text. I don't want to find it's some spazz like me telling the world they've found an odd-coloured bogey up their nose.

it would be nice, when the iphone's push service is switched on, if twitter would push messages down to twitterific - this would solve the 'excited when I receive a text only to find it's about a bogey' problem

If my phone had let me assign unique message alert tones to numbers like it does with ringtones and voice calls then the problem might have gone away.

Maybe the fundamental problem is that I'm not interested enough in other people.

most of twitter is exquisitely described in metaphor by that news story about the inflatable turd named "Complex Shit" blowing away and breaking actual stuff that matters

of course being me I would say the same for pretty much everything "web 2.0"

actually, i'd follow a tombot twitter feed. furious cynicism at unexpected moments could be fun.

i guess twitterific might step up to the plate here, but then again: it can't run in the background on the iPhone, can it?

(this, incidentally, is my first ILX post from my shiny new iMac.)

creepy

13.28
cozeny Wondering out loud what we'd need to start a UK group SMS system and take Twitter's market: Ruby developers, time, money, and Red Bull... ? 9 minutes ago from web

13.37
Hi, cozeny.

tweetsms (tweetsms) is now following your updates on Twitter.

Check out tweetsms's profile here:

http://twitter.com/tweetsms

You may follow tweetsms as well by clicking on the "follow" button.

Best,
Twitter

tweetsms
http://www.tweetSMS.com will be available worldwide across almost all carriers. We also plan to deploy an ad-based service for free updates.
38 minutes ago from web

@PurpleKitchen check out www.tweetsms.com about 2 hours ago from web in reply to PurpleKitchen

just uploaded http://www.tweetsms.com to help all of those international SMS users! about 2 hours ago from web

Used it cause I was excited (are you still an early adopter a full year after the SXSW explosion of use?), then didn't for a few months cause I didn't really see the point, now I'm usin it again cause I've had some new local friends start following me.

Good for questions, link-sharing, Microemo bursts, etc.

I have a friend who uses this to read his friends' feeds, so I basically only see it from the angle of a person who is constantly checking his phone while I'm trying to have a conversation with him. The first time I heard of Twitter was from him when I finally got exasperated with his constantly checking his phone.

Maybe I'm the one with the problem, but I can't really think of anyone in the world interesting enough for me to want updates on their activities throughout the day. I'd say the only people I could imagine wanting to twitter could be: Drug smuggler, violent prison inmate, Slash-in-his-heyday type rock star, and a dog (if they somehow managed to translate its thoughts into English text).

don't use it, don't know anyone who does, but i check this one all the time: http://twitter.com/MarsPhoenix

i very very rarely check it on my phone. does mobile use seem to be the prominent use?

SMS functionality seems to be its USP now that Facebook status updates have taken the mainstream microblogging space.

As I said above, people using it for pushed news bulletins and question-broadcasting rather than personal what-i'm-doing stuff is another application.

(I think you can now do Facebook by SMS in America, actually, but not here)

SMS is a fucking trilobite technology

I followed @johncleese back when his followers were in the double digits.

Seriously someone FedEx me a fucking medal already.

how the fuck are they planning to make money? Also, they could easily have charged for this in Europe, and at least started making some actual income for a change.

so: brightkite, then. anyone played about with it much? i'm not sure i can particularly be arsed, TBH.

Twinkle is useful to see if there's trouble on my tram line or the local cafe is on fire.

ON IPHONE

Brightkite seems particularly marvelous, actually. Like Twitter with upgrades.

ceo pandering to elon to hold onto his job

he gets a yuge payout if he leaves so i'm skeptical, but maybe.

the two people he fired are two of the three people he promoted when he became ceo 6 months ago lmao.

cool cool

he gets a yuge payout if he leaves so i'm skeptical, but maybe.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, May 12, 2022 1:34 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

some people want to be ceo more than they want money

i've seen this guy speak and let's just say he doesn't seem like the kind of guy who was pleased when the ball came his way in PE.

lol

musk is now setting the stage for canceling the deal over dumb reasons his fanatics will believe.

Second week of this poor deluded bluebird pecking at his own reflection. He will never mate, or nest, or propel his DNA into the next generation nor even have time for an auto fiction about his atrophied life. pic.twitter.com/Ux7XmY5GcK

— Joyce Carol Oates (@JoyceCarolOates) April 30, 2022

Twitter is cool

The whole thing about Twitter "spam accounts" reminded me that when I joined Twitter in 2012, I would occasionally get followed by some super-obvious spam account like a Sexy Lady Looking to Chat or a Digital Marketing Business Guru, and at first I was baffled as to why they would bother *following* me, and then I realized that it was essentially just putting an ad in my mentions. Anyway, that hasn't happened in a really long time, and it makes me wonder whether those types of accounts specifically target new users, or whether Twitter just got better at weeding out stuff like that.

Sounds like an out to me

LONDON (AP) — Musk says deal to buy Twitter can’t go forward unless company can show that less than 5% of accounts are fake or spam.

— Jonathan Lemire (@JonLemire) May 17, 2022

prob not weve talking about it in the Elon Musk thread fwiw

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-17/twitter-loses-three-more-senior-employees-ahead-of-musk-takeover

is that good

I don’t even remember who the hell I was talking about here. https://t.co/okRgSC9y95

— Stephen A Smith (@stephenasmith) May 26, 2022

Gonna avoid twitter tonight like I avoid the streets the night the local team wins the superbowl

"he won! he won!"

the fuck did he win?

I uninstalled the app last week, I simply couldn’t deal with this shit. Don’t see myself going back for a while.

<3

https://i.imgur.com/5ZRdvyS.png

honestly this sounds like a bad ilx thread, lol

Ilxors list which well-known US bobos they have previously honked

So many honked bobos

love this genre of update:

Drinking a Two For Flinching by @nightshiftbeer/@rarbrew @ Untappd at Home — https://t.co/l7xsAkgLXd

— ☠️ceaseless💀torture☠️ (@BesetByDemons) July 8, 2022

A callout of SDL led to discourse about the term "PAWG". During that discourse, @APunishedBill found himself disagreeing with the "PAWG is racist" folks.

This, imo, can be considered the inciting incident. 1/?

— Nae Bumayé, PAWG Discourse Historian (@naebumaye) July 10, 2022

I literally cannot parse that at all.

I mean, I could click on it to try to work it out, but why would I punish myself like that?

That’s kind of the point
It’s a torturous history of the “Anne Frank had white privileged” mess

Just realized that a $1b breakup fee from Musk (were Twitter to get it) would represent more in net income for Twitter than it has made in aggregate in its lifetime as a company

— Tanay Jaipuria (@tanayj) July 12, 2022

if it were net income

lol

it really is quite a thing (pointed out by matt levine in bloomberg/the other thread) how the twitter board is kinda bound by its duty to its shareholders to demand its own destruction

usin twitter like it’s facebook you love to see it

https://twitter.com/william79739990?s=21&t=vPQV8BbSUpxuU5tFD_wc_A

Trending in United Kingdom
Jizz

As a result of Truss's new campaign slogan, Jizz for Liz.

oh, I see, people want a piece of Jizz Hornkamp again. thankfully his manager has already asserted that “Jizz is not for sale”.

the corrupt Forest chairman will have been illegally tapping up Jizz for a while now going by previous behaviour.

this is how you get people to engage with your content on twitter.

how can you defend this?

how can someone convince another person that this is good music?

because apart from the last few seconds, this is unlistenable, i fully believe that bjork bribed reviewers to write good reviews. pic.twitter.com/cF6voYxICc

— CO ☕ (@emanchiji) August 2, 2022

i know i'm a particularly old 34 because i just can't find any upside to the way music is discussed/argued/reviewed on twitter/youtube/reddit. it's atrocious and i never want to witness it.

so I guess the question would be, can a piece which is intentionally striving in all ways to attain the state of being 'anti-music' simultaneously be considered a piece of music? sounds like a job for the Magic 8-Ball (tm).

the Bjork track hardly seems like "anti-music", it's just a bit noisy in places

lol that was amazing bait, just Bjork army catnip

song rips btw

worst part is all the replies backing up their blatantly wrong position, but this is yet again an example of "someone says something stupid on the internet" being treated as noteworthy.

is this person blaspheming "Pluto"?

if so, the sentence is death

you never have to care about what some random person on the internet says. that’s a fact

lol true

"Pluto" rules

If your goal is to become Twitter's main character for the day you've got to take a shit on Taylor Swift or BTS, '90s Bjork isn't going to get enough traction.

Yeah, I honestly don't think this person was trolling. I looked at his feed and the previous tweet was a QT of someone else saying essentially the same thing about the same clip. The rest of his tweets are stanning for Ariana Grande.

this is probably biased because of my bubble (media twitter) but i feel like hating on taylor swift just isn't remarkable enough to go viral.

bjork makes perfect sense to me though. like she has always been a bit of a line in the sand for basic pop fans and she's a big enough star that everyone, especially media types, has an opinion about her.

it's weird i've seen a few different tweets slamming "noisy" music today, including a tiktok showing some teens doing like a bare bones prurient performance and the tweeter saying it was the worst thing they've ever seen, lol.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/08/twitter-says-musks-spam-analysis-used-tool-that-called-his-own-account-a-bot/

that tweet is almost exactly how I felt (minus “the last 3 seconds”) when I saw post Malone on snl

Hating on 25 years old tracks by Bjork is the pop equivalent of classical philistines still complaining about serialism from 1922.