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Didn't see a thread. So, micro-bloging, then.

Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link

what's the point when you have FB status updates?

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm an addict.

Allen, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

The status updates on facebook are one of my favourite aspects of FB, so I liked the idea of twitter when I first heard about it a week or so ago. I've signed up, but it hasn't stuck with me as yet, I think because none of my friends are using it.

krakow, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

It's reduced all my literary ambitions down to daily one-liners:

Lie Bot, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

So much hate for Twitter. So much.

J0hn D., Wednesday, 30 July 2008 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Twitter is for productivity douche-bags and aspirational web developers.

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I used to use Twitter quite a lot, but Facebook status updates reach a lot more of my friends, and I can do them from my phone as easily as a Twitter so I've kind of abandoned it.

I think Twitter is good for publishing interesting links and news and things, and for asking advice from the microblogosphere, but for the latter you'd need a whole load of like-minded followers and it's hard to get there.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I will have to use it for a while before I decide if I love it or hate it.

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

There was this thread, by the way:


Alba, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

we've def. had a twitter thread before because i remember checking out the twitter homepage to see what the fuss was about, and i just happened to see alba make an update. then i told him about it here.

elan, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link

dats it

elan, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link

TWITTER: I don't get it

El Tomboto, Thursday, 31 July 2008 05:44 (thirteen years ago) link

CIO/KIU: using ilx like twitter

El Tomboto, Thursday, 31 July 2008 05:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I just spent another fifteen minutes going down the rabbit hole with this shit clicking on follower avatars
the text of the last panel could possibly be sold as a t-shirt

El Tomboto, Thursday, 31 July 2008 05:46 (thirteen years ago) link

the weather alert stuff and airport delay announcement feeds seem vaguely useful but it remains the absolute dumbest shit I've ever seen since friendster

El Tomboto, Thursday, 31 July 2008 05:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean what use is something that's supposed to provide low-bandwidth status updates on EVERY STUPID PIDDLING THING EVER IN THE WORLD if it also happens to be breaking constantly is ugly and has a terrible name, as with squoink and jaiku and whatever else, which just goes to show you what actually matters

El Tomboto, Thursday, 31 July 2008 05:58 (thirteen years ago) link


El Tomboto, Thursday, 31 July 2008 06:02 (thirteen years ago) link

let me make sure to get back here and write you guys some more about how I feel about the web's direction in a little bit

El Tomboto, Thursday, 31 July 2008 06:04 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah I still think it is all weird and gross

El Tomboto, Thursday, 31 July 2008 06:50 (thirteen years ago) link

"the microblogosphere"

Raw Patrick, Thursday, 31 July 2008 08:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I use Twitter to keep up with a very small handful of friends (FreakyTrigger mob mostly) so mine is mostly a collection of stupid injokes that come to my mobile. I like that a lot, saves me having to text loads of people at once, but it freaks me out when I see random strangers following me. I have to purge my followers list about once a week.

Matt DC, Thursday, 31 July 2008 09:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I used to use Twitter quite a lot, but Facebook status updates reach a lot more of my friends, and I can do them from my phone as easily as a Twitter so I've kind of abandoned it

this is a shame, because your minute-by-minute update from "control" was fucking genius. for the few minutes it lasted.

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 31 July 2008 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

you'd need a whole load of like-minded followers and it's hard to get there.
This is the key, really. Twitter got some ferocious use at wwdc, and was v. good for finding out what was giong on where, and what sessions to leave, etc, but it doesn't work so well if you've just trucked up in some random place.

There's a twitter client for iPhone that might help with that though -- it shows you all the updates from folks in your location.

stet, Thursday, 31 July 2008 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

this is a shame, because your minute-by-minute update from "control" was fucking genius. for the few minutes it lasted.

People were complaining!

Alba, Thursday, 31 July 2008 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

as usual

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 00:50 (twelve years ago) link

the end of twitter in the UK? er: yes, as far as i can see. i don't want to have to *look* for tweets. i want them to come to me:


I'm sending you this note because you registered a mobile device
to work with Twitter over our UK number. I wanted to let you
know that we are making some changes to the way SMS works on
Twitter. There is some good news and some bad news.

I'll start with the bad news. Beginning today, Twitter is no
longer delivering outbound SMS over our UK number. If you enjoy
receiving updates from Twitter via +44 762 480 1423, we are
recommending that you explore some suggested alternatives.

Note: You will still be able to UPDATE over our UK number.

Before I go into more detail, here's a bit of good news: Twitter
will be introducing several new, local SMS numbers in countries
throughout Europe in the coming weeks and months. These new
numbers will make Twittering more accessible for you if you've
been using SMS to send long-distance updates from outside the UK.

Why are we making these changes?

Mobile operators in most of the world charge users to send
updates. When you send one message to Twitter and we send it to
ten followers, you aren't charged ten times--that's because we've
been footing the bill. When we launched our free SMS service to
the world, we set the clock ticking. As the service grew in
popularity, so too would the price.

Our challenge during this window of time was to establish
relationships with mobile operators around the world such that
our SMS services could become sustainable from a cost perspective.
We achieved this goal in Canada, India, and the United States.
We can provide full incoming and outgoing SMS service without
passing along operator fees in these countries.

We took a risk hoping to bring more nations onboard and more
mobile operators around to our way of thinking but we've arrived
at a point where the responsible thing to do is slow our costs
and take a different approach. Since you probably don't live in
Canada, India, or the US, we recommend receiving your Twitter
updates via one of the following methods. works on browser-enabled phones works on browser-enabled phones works on email-enabled phones
Cellity [] works on java-enabled phones
TwitterBerry [] works on BlackBerry phones
Twitterific [] works on iPhones

Twitter SMS by The Numbers

It pains us to take this measure. However, we need to avoid
placing undue burden on our company and our service. Even with a
limit of 250 messages received per week, it could cost Twitter
about $1,000 per user, per year to send SMS outside of Canada,
India, or the US. It makes more sense for us to establish fair
billing arrangements with mobile operators than it does to pass
these high fees on to our users.

Twitter will continue to negotiate with mobile operators in
Europe, Asia, China, and The Americas to forge relationships
that benefit all our users. Our goal is to provide full, two-way
service with Twitter via SMS to every nation in a way that is
sustainable from a cost perspective. Talks with mobile companies
around the world continue. In the meantime, more local numbers
for updating via SMS are on the way. We'll keep you posted.

Thank you for your attention,
Biz Stone, Co-founder
Twitter, Inc.

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 14 August 2008 08:45 (twelve years ago) link

I never understood why anyone would want tweets pushed to them. I get excited when I receive a text. I don't want to find it's some spazz like me telling the world they've found an odd-coloured bogey up their nose.

Alba, Thursday, 14 August 2008 09:21 (twelve years ago) link

it would be nice, when the iphone's push service is switched on, if twitter would push messages down to twitterific - this would solve the 'excited when I receive a text only to find it's about a bogey' problem

cozwn, Thursday, 14 August 2008 09:31 (twelve years ago) link

If my phone had let me assign unique message alert tones to numbers like it does with ringtones and voice calls then the problem might have gone away.

Alba, Thursday, 14 August 2008 09:34 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe the fundamental problem is that I'm not interested enough in other people.

Alba, Thursday, 14 August 2008 09:35 (twelve years ago) link

most of twitter is exquisitely described in metaphor by that news story about the inflatable turd named "Complex Shit" blowing away and breaking actual stuff that matters

El Tomboto, Thursday, 14 August 2008 09:39 (twelve years ago) link

of course being me I would say the same for pretty much everything "web 2.0"

El Tomboto, Thursday, 14 August 2008 09:40 (twelve years ago) link

actually, i'd follow a tombot twitter feed. furious cynicism at unexpected moments could be fun.

i guess twitterific might step up to the plate here, but then again: it can't run in the background on the iPhone, can it?

(this, incidentally, is my first ILX post from my shiny new iMac.)

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 14 August 2008 11:28 (twelve years ago) link


cozeny Wondering out loud what we'd need to start a UK group SMS system and take Twitter's market: Ruby developers, time, money, and Red Bull... ? 9 minutes ago from web

Hi, cozeny.

tweetsms (tweetsms) is now following your updates on Twitter.

Check out tweetsms's profile here:

You may follow tweetsms as well by clicking on the "follow" button.


tweetsms will be available worldwide across almost all carriers. We also plan to deploy an ad-based service for free updates.
38 minutes ago from web

@PurpleKitchen check out about 2 hours ago from web in reply to PurpleKitchen

just uploaded to help all of those international SMS users! about 2 hours ago from web

cozwn, Thursday, 14 August 2008 12:39 (twelve years ago) link

Used it cause I was excited (are you still an early adopter a full year after the SXSW explosion of use?), then didn't for a few months cause I didn't really see the point, now I'm usin it again cause I've had some new local friends start following me.

Good for questions, link-sharing, Microemo bursts, etc.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 14 August 2008 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

I have a friend who uses this to read his friends' feeds, so I basically only see it from the angle of a person who is constantly checking his phone while I'm trying to have a conversation with him. The first time I heard of Twitter was from him when I finally got exasperated with his constantly checking his phone.

Maybe I'm the one with the problem, but I can't really think of anyone in the world interesting enough for me to want updates on their activities throughout the day. I'd say the only people I could imagine wanting to twitter could be: Drug smuggler, violent prison inmate, Slash-in-his-heyday type rock star, and a dog (if they somehow managed to translate its thoughts into English text).

rockapads, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

don't use it, don't know anyone who does, but i check this one all the time:

Roz, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

i very very rarely check it on my phone. does mobile use seem to be the prominent use?

tehresa, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

SMS functionality seems to be its USP now that Facebook status updates have taken the mainstream microblogging space.

As I said above, people using it for pushed news bulletins and question-broadcasting rather than personal what-i'm-doing stuff is another application.

Alba, Thursday, 14 August 2008 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

(I think you can now do Facebook by SMS in America, actually, but not here)

Alba, Thursday, 14 August 2008 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

SMS is a fucking trilobite technology

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 14 August 2008 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

I followed @johncleese back when his followers were in the double digits.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 14 August 2008 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

Seriously someone FedEx me a fucking medal already.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 14 August 2008 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

how the fuck are they planning to make money? Also, they could easily have charged for this in Europe, and at least started making some actual income for a change.

stet, Thursday, 14 August 2008 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

so: brightkite, then. anyone played about with it much? i'm not sure i can particularly be arsed, TBH.

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

Twinkle is useful to see if there's trouble on my tram line or the local cafe is on fire.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 21:27 (twelve years ago) link


Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

Brightkite seems particularly marvelous, actually. Like Twitter with upgrades.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 23:20 (twelve years ago) link

one thing ive noticed, because it will post a streetview image of the restaurant if available, is that google is so awful at finding storefronts on streetview, i swear their hit rate is <25%, i could understand if its in a place that has a vague address system but look at this its california wtf

Beachside Restaurant & Bar; 14160 Palawan Way, Marina Del Rey, CA 90292, USA

— Random Restaurant (@_restaurant_bot) June 20, 2021

lag∞n, Sunday, 20 June 2021 22:35 (one month ago) link

How fucking stupid can you be on twitter

― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 June 2021 bookmarkflaglink

Here is how the matter 'closed'.

In light of recent events.

— Steven Fielding (@PolProfSteve) June 23, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 13:39 (one month ago) link

i've just been put in the A/B group that has algorithmic timeline forced with no way to turn it back to chronological and of all the bad site changes they've done this is the only one that actually makes it unusable

ciderpress, Sunday, 27 June 2021 18:16 (one month ago) link

update: they reverted it after a couple minutes. i guess they're just testing it on people in short bursts to see if they continue to engage?

ciderpress, Sunday, 27 June 2021 18:17 (one month ago) link

i did not continue to engage

ciderpress, Sunday, 27 June 2021 18:18 (one month ago) link

thank you for your service

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 June 2021 18:21 (one month ago) link

Crikey. That would kill Twitter for me, basically making it a weak imitation of Instagram. (Which is horrible to begin with.)

The BBC nicely conflating free speech activism and Bitcoin promotion here:

“Jack Dorsey: Unpicking Twitter boss's passion for Nigeria”

I had no idea Dorsey was such a Bitcoin bro. I guess I should follow him just to see what sort of BS he’s hawking next?

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Sunday, 27 June 2021 23:59 (one month ago) link

Did they really mean to say “unpicking”? “Unpacking”, maybe?

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 28 June 2021 00:00 (one month ago) link

i've gotten it a couple more times today, sometimes it goes away with a refresh, sometimes it doesn't and then goes away after a couple minutes. given that it seems more likely they're testing something than its a bug

ciderpress, Monday, 28 June 2021 01:24 (one month ago) link

yeah i read that they were testing that, so dumb just let the people who want the chronological timeline have it, im sure the vast majority of just use the default

lag∞n, Monday, 28 June 2021 02:58 (one month ago) link

seems like they just flipped the switch for everyone at once, literally everyone on my tl is complaining now

ciderpress, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:19 (one month ago) link

That’s just because the algorithm knows you like complaining

The 💨 that shook the barlow (wins), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:29 (one month ago) link

i use a plugin that blocks trending topics and removes RTs from the main timeline and they are slowly breaking it ffs

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:32 (one month ago) link

only use tweetdeck imo

class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:33 (one month ago) link

never put twitter on your phone also imo

class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:33 (one month ago) link

yeah i got the good timeline taken away fr a while today

lag∞n, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 01:02 (one month ago) link

FINALLY!!!! A terrible wrong is being righted- a miscarriage of justice is corrected!

— Phylicia Rashad (@PhyliciaRashad) June 30, 2021

this has to be the ratio record

k3vin k., Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:36 (one month ago) link

There's really only one German word that perfectly encompasses a specific feeling that hasn't been verbalized in English, you can stop asking for every dumb feeling you come up with.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 1 July 2021 09:21 (one month ago) link

i think i….. like the algo

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 4 July 2021 17:48 (four weeks ago) link

the new taboo

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 4 July 2021 18:25 (four weeks ago) link


lag∞n, Sunday, 4 July 2021 18:48 (four weeks ago) link

to me, it’s more about what’s in the tweets than the order they’re presented in

flopson, Sunday, 4 July 2021 18:59 (four weeks ago) link

🐾 We are heartbroken over the tragedy in Surfside FL, so many hoomans perished..  Some of the survivors’ pets are trapped in the rubble too. These are Mia, Daisy and Coco. Not pictured, Binks (same condo as Daisy), another cat Hippo and a chameleon named Grimlock.

— The Oval Pawffice® 🇺🇸 DOTUS Fans (@TheOvalPawffice) July 2, 2021

Joe Bombin (milo z), Monday, 5 July 2021 00:38 (four weeks ago) link

There's,apparently cats stuck on the 4th and 10th floors that they can't get to, and a possible dog in a crate.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 5 July 2021 02:32 (four weeks ago) link

no idea where to put this apart from here - they found more Japanese fake baseball players!

We found additional pages of them! If you’d not seen them, you’re welcome!
I’ve wanted to get a Mets jersey with “Balloon” for a while now…

— Shane Duggan (@SB_Duggan) July 15, 2021

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 16 July 2021 10:30 (two weeks ago) link

jim milliams

bart harley-jarvis cocker (voodoo chili), Friday, 16 July 2021 14:55 (two weeks ago) link


a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 July 2021 15:01 (two weeks ago) link

dave glark

lag∞n, Friday, 16 July 2021 15:51 (two weeks ago) link

these are all gold, incredible batting average, if you will

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 16 July 2021 15:56 (two weeks ago) link

no idea where to put this apart from here - they found more Japanese fake baseball players!

Fighting Baseball for Super Famicom: A League of Fake Americans POLL

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 July 2021 16:02 (two weeks ago) link

ugh, the post going around about the pizza place in ohio with the owner that gave all the workers the "profit" (spoiler: it was not the profit) from the day to the workers, who then earned $78/hour for that day, leading to the conclusion that the owner could pay their workers that much every day if they really wanted to

all of that, so much of it veering toward something that is the truth, but it's all based upon shitty reporting, shitty headline writing, a screengrab of the article rather than a link to the real one, and social media.

If only someone had written some sort of theory, about labor and even maybe about value….a labor and value theory or something like that…ah! But alas!

— Middle Tennessee DSA 🌹 (@MidTNDSA) July 16, 2021

i looked at the original story to confirm that the headline was wrong. it was not the "entire day of profits", it was the entire day of revenue: sales + tips. this single paragraph tells you all you need to know to make an estimate for how much business they usually do and about how many workers they have:

On a typical Monday, they do about 100 orders. This week, they did 220 orders, which translated to over $6,000 in sales and over $1,000 in tips, all of which went back to the employees. Each worker made about $78 an hour for that shift.

why does this matter? because i've seen at least 3 people on twitter today, 2 that i know, saying this is a great example for the left, with "concrete numbers" that "prove" things bla bla bla. uggggggh, no, no. i mean, it is a good example, but it doesn't mean what you think it means, and $78/hour is

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 July 2021 17:18 (two weeks ago) link



Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 July 2021 17:19 (two weeks ago) link

Trying to point that kind of error on Twitter is zero fun, partly because you look like a dick and partly out of fear of people thinking you're in favour of shitty wages. The social part of social media means it is not accuracy's friend.

Alba, Friday, 16 July 2021 17:35 (two weeks ago) link

the rare success story! the person I pointed it out to was very nice about it, just now! which is very rare! i was like "sorry, i feel like a wet blanket..."


partly because you look like a dick and partly out of fear of people thinking you're in favour of shitty wages.

this is absolutely true.

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 July 2021 17:45 (two weeks ago) link

I think some Tweeters indulge a fetish by inviting public abuse.

Hey, @DoorDash, I had a really cool interaction with a Dasher yesterday. They showed how unprofessional and inconsiderate they are, and they represent your company. Top notch service. #DoorDash #delivery

— TanMan (@tannerburks) July 16, 2021

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 17 July 2021 14:49 (two weeks ago) link

Tan Man

KEEP HONKING -- I'M BOBOING (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 17 July 2021 15:07 (two weeks ago) link

Wow, now that’s a ratio

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Saturday, 17 July 2021 15:08 (two weeks ago) link

Tan Man whole timeline is retweets of basketball clips
Seems like a bro

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Saturday, 17 July 2021 17:13 (two weeks ago) link

the tanman has predictably deleted the tweet

it blows my mind when people think the delivery person has anything to do with it. I ended up getting a wrong order last year, texted the deliverer to make sure they hadn’t accidentally dropped off the wrong bag, and they said that was the only delivery they’d picked up from that restaurant. end of interaction! absolutely nothing else has to do with them

mh, Monday, 19 July 2021 20:52 (two weeks ago) link

twitter poll:

do you regularly interact with strangers?

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 17:53 (one week ago) link

i posted that before getting this message from twitter, lol!

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 18:02 (one week ago) link

i guess what set me off last night was that hannity did the bare minimum human thing and told his watchers to take COVID seriously. that led to lots of applause for hannity's noble efforts, since we should be thanking him for his transformative effects on public health

The Twitter Left+ will virtue signal the shit out of this, but @seanhannity likely saved a hundred lives tonight.

and I say: Thank You. 👏

— Dennis Herring (@dcherring) July 20, 2021

then this good guy stranger was like "hey! fuck you pramsey342!!"

Here’s a fuck you signal. Did you give a shit about the ones he’s helped kill until fifteen minutes ago?

— Peter Ramsey (@pramsey342) July 20, 2021

and that's when i leapt to the aid of good guy stranger with some personal spice to make it real for pramsey. at least, i think that's what i was doing.

do you regularly interact with strangers?

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 18:09 (one week ago) link

or wait, the good guy stranger was like "hey! fuck you dennis herring!"

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 18:10 (one week ago) link

herring breath

criminally negligible (harbl), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 18:13 (one week ago) link

it sucks because i've made a couple REALLY good twitter posts during the last 2 hours, forgetting that i was still banned for another hour or so. and when you hit submit and see that you're still being punished, and you hit back and the perfect tweet isn't can see what caused 1/6. oh wait, twitter didn't ban trump until the middle of 1/6. that's the day he became president

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 05:04 (one week ago) link

u shd get a burner

class project pat (m bison), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 05:07 (one week ago) link

i am going to burn the shit out of twitter once i'm back, they will regret the day

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 05:10 (one week ago) link

some of these unseen twitter posts, i made, also - they were life-affirming. i can't show them to you now, of course, i lost them, and to be honest i don't really remember what they were about. but i remember thinking while typing them, "you know this is kind of cool that i'm coming back to twitter in this positive way". now i remember nothing. i have no positive feelings, toward twitter or otherwise. twitter, you took away my patriotic freedom, but you also took away my freedom of liberty. and for that, i will never forget. 1 hour and it's on @jack

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 05:13 (one week ago) link

did you guys read about the elderly man that died of a heart attack because of swatting?

it involves twitter, discord, and video games, of course. it's so sad.

Punster McPunisher, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 05:47 (one week ago) link

Y'all still follow Jonathan Swift? The man who literally supports eating babies?

(some time later)

Obviously the whole time I knew he was joking but it's still not okay. Here's why [1/20]

— atrophy wife 🎀 (@zuza_real) July 21, 2021

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 25 July 2021 09:26 (one week ago) link

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