Three days in Hong Kong, what to do?

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Am flying there tomorrow to avoid the horrendous Songkran festival here. What is good to see, do, eat and watch in Hong Kong?

Paul Kelly (kelly), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 08:21 (fourteen years ago) link

eat? erm everything. Every time I go to Hong Kong it seems I gain at least 7lbs in weight.

jellybean (jellybean), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 08:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Where are you staying - on the island, or Tsim Sha Tsui-side?

Take the Peak Tram up Victoria Peak, then do one of the walking trails (they are clearly marked out) around the Peak for spectacular views. The one which goes to Pokfulam reservoir/country park is only about 3km.

Stanley Market is fun, as are the night markets

Ferry over to Macau for a day trip

Take the glass elevator up the outside of the Hopewell Centre

Sha Tin (in the new territories) or Happy Valley racecourses, if there's any racing on.

Ocean Park!

C J (C J), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 09:46 (fourteen years ago) link

OPIUM DEN

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 09:57 (fourteen years ago) link

(And Ocean Park, Stanley Markets, Victoria Peak and Nathan Road)

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 09:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks, have to dash now to grab stuff for the trip, I'll look into those suggestions.

Thanks a lot

Paul Kelly (kelly), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 10:35 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...
oh man i never saw this thread. so many things to do. eat cheap things. god, yum cha, so cheap. this morning it was like 50p per portion of dim sum. my mother and i were stuffed and the bill was a fiver between us.

ocean park is nice. the new disneyland is a little bit on the small side. but they have a nice queue system where you can "book" your place for one ride at a specific time (only one at a time though) so you can wander about elsewhere while you wait for your time.

sham shui po is good for cheap electronics and there's a street full of stalls that sell cheapolodean AV/electrical things.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 5 June 2006 04:59 (fourteen years ago) link

soon there will be a cable car that takes you to the temple with the big buddha thing, if you're that way inclined. currently it's an hour bus ride from the other side of lantau island.

going on the ferry is fun too. you get to see both sides of the harbour and smell sea air (which admittedly is a bit smelly).

ken c (ken c), Monday, 5 June 2006 05:03 (fourteen years ago) link

You can have a great transport themed day. Star Ferry, Hong Kong Island Trams, big glass elevators outside tall buildings, Star Ferry and even the toobe. (Actually the double decker buses out to the New Territories are actually quite cool too).

The food hall above Happy Valley Market does some of the best cheap food I've ever eaten.

Oh the Hong Kong History Museum is good as well, though remember to pace yourself as it starts in pre-history.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 5 June 2006 06:29 (fourteen years ago) link

I went to the hong kong history museum with my dad, and he just slagged it off for the entire duration of the visit (my dad's a chinese historian), specialising in the customs of HK villagers. You might as well go to a village on one of the islands or in the New Territories and see the real thing if you're in HK around the time of some Chinese festival.

I love spending the whole day on the Tram and the ferry.. and it's so cheap too

jellybean (jellybean), Monday, 5 June 2006 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

1) hang out with francis ng and simon yam
2) watch planes land at airport
3) sail out into bay at night

gear (gear), Monday, 5 June 2006 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Be interested to hear why he slagged it off. Clearly any presentation of history is going to be flawed and from a potentially political stance but I thought it gave someone who had little idea of its history a pretty good idea of its development (and it was easy to read certain bias's).

We were staying way out in the New Territories and that is worth it. No-one spoke English but they wer emore than willing to feed us silly with Dim Sum.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 5 June 2006 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I think the main reason why he didn't like it (this is the area where they show the different types of origins of the Chinese in HK, with the fishing boat and stuff) came from over simplification of the facts.

I have to admit, I did ask him to go with me just to see how annoyed he would get.

jellybean (jellybean), Monday, 5 June 2006 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link

oh for transport - i forgot! obv ride the red topped minibuses late night! they're apparently now all run by triads and are notoriously trilling because the drivers get paid per trip and so they do all kinds of stunts like speeding cutting lanes and jumping red lights! legends have it that you can get from central to tuen mun in 15 minutes (when usually it's more like an hour)

ken c (ken c), Monday, 5 June 2006 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...
i'm going to hong kong, guys, woo! for my school reunion. i am SO EXCITED, i haven't been back since early '97, ie pre-giving it back to china!

to get a cheap flight i had to stay there for ten days, which is obviously ACE except i may get kicked out on my ear once the reunion is over - officially we're all meant to bugger off on the morning of monday 14th. i don't fly back til saturday 19th. i'm hoping they won't be that strict and will let me hang out for another 4 nights (flight is earlyish saturday, it's easy to stay out late/all night in hk then head to the airport whenever... or is it? i haven't been to the new airport, eep!) or that i'll find a hk local's sofa to crash on, but if not, where do i stay that is CHEAP? i was always seriously tempted by chungking mansions, will i die if i stay there? i do not look rich, no one will stab me for my diamonds.

omg omg i am so excited. share with me!

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link

oh man i wanna go back to hk. i think there's a cheap ymca in kowloon?

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link

ooh ymca, good idea! i am barely gonna sleep for the next two weeks. man. i haven't had any jabs. is that a terrible idea? i went to pakistan a year and a half ago and had a shitload then. i wouldn't object to more now (mmm needles) but dunno if there's time.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't have any hk heroin connections, sorry.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link

where do i stay that is CHEAP? i was always seriously tempted by chungking mansions, will i die if i stay there?

i stayed there. they weren't so bad. look around though - some of the guesthouses in there are way better than others. my bunkbed was cheap as hell though, for HK anyway. single rooms i think were around $10 or $15? I can't remember. the mirador mansion is just up the road and a little nicer and only a little more expensive.

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't have any hk heroin connections, sorry.


SNAP CITY

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Stanley Market is for jack ass tourists. Go to the night market and/pr laies amrket in Mongkok instead.
You can also get your fill of cheap VCD/DVDs/CDs/softwarfe and hardware in this area.
The street food in Mongkok is also keen.

Wanchai is where you want to hang out if you want to run into western wanks boozing it up with Asian and SOuth American Chicks.

Back over to Kowloon... Take the KTR to the border, cross and then take a bus to Shenzen... a lot of good shopping... much stuf to do.. stay away from queer ass shit like Stanley Market! You'll get ripped off and only porkbutts go there.

Freddie (freddie), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh yeah... get a foot massage... many places to get one.. about $20 HK.... around 3 $US.

Fuck anyone who tells you to go to that bitch ass crap shoot known as Stanley Market.

Freddie (freddie), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

thanks phil-two! that sounds perfect, if i get chucked out.

ktr=kcr, or did it change its name? i'm staying way out in the new territories, between sai kung and sha tin. i hear it has changed dramatically.

er i ca't work out if you guys are joking or not but by jabs i meant inoculations... i don't do heroin, i just like needles.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah totally shenzen is your jam. good hookersplaces to get your nails done for cheap.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

this is the only pic i took from inside the chungking mansions. or maybe this is the mirador ones. but im guessing it looks like the inside of a lot of these HK buildings?

http://homepage.mac.com/philtwo/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2003-08-13%2015.14.35%20-0700/Image-A6A91716CDDB11D7.jpg

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

the development over in nt is terrifying...

There's this new railway line covering east of shatin now.. A couple of years ago I went to the station at the end of the line, and it was still pretty quiet.. and by walking for an hour or so you'd end up at little communities that were isolated (well for hk anyway).. I guess all that land around that station would probably be all built up now..

jellybean (jellybean), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I NEVER WANT TO COME HOME

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 18 August 2006 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...
What kind of plugs do they use in Hong Kong? Have found conflicting information via google...

toby (tsg20), Monday, 6 November 2006 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Three pin plugs, but the pins are round. A bit like this :

http://www.globalconnections-int.com/Lncelectricity/adapters/VG4HONGKONGGRD_2_small.JPG

C J (C J), Monday, 6 November 2006 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

they're actually the same as the three pin uk ones now (rectangular)

i guess it depends where you're living.

jellybean (jellybean), Monday, 6 November 2006 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I am clearly living in the past!

C J (C J), Monday, 6 November 2006 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

they changed to the uk ones round about when i was moving to the UK (so like 1992?)

i'm surprised nobody said "butt" as the answer yet.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 6 November 2006 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

*BUMP*

how bad is the Chungking mansions experience? I figure one night is worth it for something so ridiculously cheap...

...and considering I move into this the next day (!) http://www.hulletthouse.com/

De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Thursday, 14 October 2010 15:35 (nine years ago) link

it's not so bad actually, they've cleaned it up in terms of the violence, about the worst you can expect is a bunch of hawkers shoving their stuff in your face

when are you coming ?

dayo, Thursday, 14 October 2010 23:28 (nine years ago) link

I land on Sat 30th.... am probably just gonna stick with whatever i booked at Chungking Mansions considering its so cheap. Then move to luxury Hullet House for 1 night and Peninsula for 2..... (perks of girlf who is reviewing them)

I guess I'm there till Wed 3 Nov.

De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Friday, 15 October 2010 22:14 (nine years ago) link

hahahah oh my god my friend's dream job is to be a hotel reviewer.

well me and at least one other ilxor are currently in hk, if you need help w/ anything / need a tour guide webmail me

dayo, Saturday, 16 October 2010 00:32 (nine years ago) link

I didn't even know that hotel reviewer was a job

now that I do it's my dream job too

iatee, Saturday, 16 October 2010 00:33 (nine years ago) link

Dayo, if you're not doing anything on on Sunday 31st eve let me know. ( chromogenik[at]gmail[dot]com )

De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 09:57 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

hi dere,

will be there from 27th apr - 7th may.. there may be FAPability..

Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 16:21 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Hong Kong is great. Go to Lantau island to see the giant Buddha, casino in Macau, greasy spoon, drink lots of milk tea, Snoopy's World, walk around Yuen Long, get on the $4 dollar small bus. The Symphony of Lights is kinda rubbish though.

jel --, Monday, 21 May 2012 19:26 (eight years ago) link

symphony of lights is pretty cool on nights when it's not cloudy (which is like, 2/365)

chris paul george hill (dayo), Monday, 21 May 2012 23:21 (eight years ago) link

hong kong is the greatest city in the world.

dylannn, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 02:57 (eight years ago) link

walking around hong kong never really gets old. pretty much any part of it.

i wish i knew of a good affordable place to stay. i always end up at places with hourly rates, doors that don't lock and tvs that have three channels of porn and one of cartoons. but cheap. but man, i'd rather stay in a chinese chain hotel across the border in luo hu.

dylannn, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 03:01 (eight years ago) link

shenzhen is not to be underrated. and i think if i had three days, i would make an effort to walk to take the mtr to lo wu and spend a night in shenzhen, which is a radically different city from hong kong. ((((((((((((((((i don't know how easy it is to just VISIT without planning (the other way around is quite easy since i can walk into hong kong without a visa and stay for 30 days)

dylannn, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 05:36 (eight years ago) link

is chungking mansion one of these hourly rate/porn places?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 07:23 (eight years ago) link

i dunno about walking around hong kong (aren't all the places just the same shops in different shopping centres??) but whenever i'm there i just eat all day and that never gets old

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 07:25 (eight years ago) link

a trip to shenzhen after some time in HK is truly a strange and worthwhile experience. last time i was there we just went on a whim but the information online is quite confusing regarding which passports can go in and which can't (i think it changes regularly). the japanese ppl i was with were just allowed to go in without a visa but i (with british passport) had to pay for a temporary VISA that allowed me to stay for 5 days as long as you don't leave the city.

tpp, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 09:17 (eight years ago) link

Dan Ryan's Chicago Grill!!!!

Jeff, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 11:41 (eight years ago) link

no, chungking mansions isn't no-locks/porn, as a rule, i think. whenever i walk thru it's lots of australian backpackers and like german tourists with big cameras. there's a tgi friday's right next door.

there's an ilx thread where i accidentally walk past chungking mansions and end up walking all the way to sham shui po. i never really got a "just the same shops in different shopping centres" vibe from hk but maybe i was in the wrong places.

dylannn, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 09:29 (eight years ago) link

thursday to sunday rates at a lockhart love hotel are like, ranging from 300 to 700 but pricier on weekends.

dylannn, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 23:44 (three years ago) link

i went to yung shue wan on lamma and walked to hung shing yeh beach, ate razor clams, saw the record store stevie d mentioned but didn't go in, tried to figure out who actually lives there, wandered dirt trails. it was surprising. i've been to hong kong a few times and never left, like, central/wan chai/tst. i saw ads on a bulletin board near the ferry pier with apartments for rent for like 400 usd a month, up to like 1500 usd a month. it's maybe admirable that the island is still quite shabby and undeveloped, mostly? it seemed actually uncrowded despite being 35 and sunny and on the beach there were just a few kids fucking around and it was otherwise really, really quiet, a few mainland tourists eating tofu at the stall on the walk to the beach, stray dogs, kids walking home from school. took the slow ferry to cheung chau the next day. pretty dead, too. pretty. nice ferry ride.

dylannn, Sunday, 30 October 2016 04:41 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

Entirely by accident I have booked a 2 day stopover in Hong Kong with xi jinping in town for the 20th anniversary of the handover celebrations. The fireworks ought to be good, he's bringing his aircraft carrier.

Can anyone recommend a good restaurant around wan Chai, Causeway Bay or GamJong?

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 26 June 2017 10:38 (three years ago) link

gamjong?

, Monday, 26 June 2017 12:55 (three years ago) link

ugh i used to live in the area, miss it hard

global tetrahedron, Monday, 26 June 2017 14:21 (three years ago) link

honestly a fun thing can be to just grab some beers at a 7/11 and sit on the kowloon waterfront and take it all in, views of central can get gorgeous

global tetrahedron, Monday, 26 June 2017 14:44 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Really want to go

calstars, Sunday, 8 October 2017 14:04 (two years ago) link

Really want to go back

northwest pass-agg (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 15 October 2017 23:26 (two years ago) link

my roommate is going for 14 days, any recommendations for what to do?

flopson, Monday, 16 October 2017 04:39 (two years ago) link

eat his food, walk around the house naked, go through his room + look for drugs + money...

sleepingbag, Monday, 16 October 2017 04:45 (two years ago) link

;-)

flopson, Monday, 16 October 2017 05:16 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

Has anyone flown HK Express? I'm looking at flights from HK to Tokyo and they're about a quarter of the price of JAL, etc.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 11 May 2018 09:15 (two years ago) link

i haven't heard anything disturbing about hk express but ive never flown with them. i usually take vanilla for that flight, hkg to nrt.

XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Friday, 11 May 2018 09:23 (two years ago) link

Cool, thanks - i'll look in to Vanilla.

There seem to be really good value Cathay air mile redemptions with air miles as well.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 11 May 2018 12:24 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Yes, I'm reviving China threads. Going to be there at the end of next week, wish it could be longer but maybe have 2-3 days in HK. Updated recs?

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 07:51 (two years ago) link

one of my favorite cities but i feel i've explored v little of it. usually stay in wanchai.
maybe depends on where you're staying but last time there i finally made it out to the islands and i can't recommend it enough. i always thought it would be a bitch to get out there if i was only there for a few days but it takes 30-45 to go to lamma or cheung chao. go out to lamma, wander around, get some tofu hua, record store, eat a late lunch seafood lunch at one of the restaurants by the ferry dock surrounded by sunburnt expats. cheung chao, considerably more chill and vibesy and time capsuley and fewer sunburnt expats.
walk from central over to wanchai, maybe see a horse race at happy valley (i've never done that but supposedly you should).
figure out one of the markets to go to. walk from tsim sha tsui to sham shui po and you'll hit them (as i say earlier "there's an ilx thread where i accidentally walk past chungking mansions and end up walking all the way to sham shui po," and probably check out chunking mansions maybe? if that interests you), depending on your detours and timing, go to vinyl hero in sham shui po.
go to some classic cha chaan teng (preferably in wanchai), get thai food (in wanchai), curry beef brisket noodles, wonton noodles, tuna sandwiches and chocolate milk from 7-11.

XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Thursday, 7 June 2018 16:56 (two years ago) link

Thanks! I think if we even make a third of that list, we'll have a spectacular time.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 10 June 2018 00:04 (two years ago) link

i think you'll find unlike guangzhou or shanghai or beijing, it's a better city to explore a random area on foot because: it's so dense (mostly talking about hong kong island and kowloon, even parts of the new territories) + it has a history as a major world city that goes back further than 1980 or 1990 (i mean guangzhou and shanghai and beijing were world cities but they were put on ice for almost a hundred years) + far more multicultural than mainland cities, visibly, people from across asia and beyond, but also different peoples from china and the diaspora + more welcoming of outside and non"mainstream" ideas and lifestyles and cuisines and music and religion and everything else, making for a more interesting urban environment than you'll get in any city on the mainland.

i think it's my favorite city on earth and coming back to tokyo after visiting, i'm struck by how dull and unwelcoming this city can be. every time i go back, i regret not somehow living in a box in wanchai or a tiny house out on some island, as bad an idea as that would surely turn out to be. i mean, i think i love hk because i've never lived there... and visiting these days, i think it's impossible, unfortunately, to not feel that hong kong's days are numbered as an vibrant, multicultural urban experiment... i get the sense and maybe it's just my own prejudices that i'm seeing the last of hong kong as it existed for however long before 1997 or before the mid-2000s umbrella protests, the clampdown on hk democracy, the united front strategy, language laws, patriotic education, mainland wealth flooding into the real estate market.

XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Sunday, 10 June 2018 06:06 (two years ago) link

^
Always enjoy your posts D

calstars, Sunday, 10 June 2018 12:59 (two years ago) link

thanks, buddy

XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Monday, 11 June 2018 05:59 (two years ago) link

Recent Bourdain Parts Unknown episode on Hong Kong I just saw was interesting to me on how "old" Hong Kong is being knocked down, etc. and on food and fishing villages and politics. Some of the things Dylannn mentioned yesterday.

I haven't been there.

curmudgeon, Monday, 11 June 2018 14:54 (two years ago) link

i know arriving in hong kong for the first time in 2006, i had arrived too late to see all of the buildings and the ways of life that disappeared in the postwar boom, up through the 1990s. from that visit in 2006, visiting maybe once a year since, more often when i was in guangzhou, most recently last year, i can feel a difference, though, not just in the, like, physical city but in the feel, maybe? maybe it's because i have a romantic attachment to the city and also follow what's been done there politically.

XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Monday, 11 June 2018 16:53 (two years ago) link

whining about gentrification as a tourist in hong kong is not what i want to do, though, like complaining its not a perfect museum. even though it's a symptom of a bad things happening in hk it looks bad. i tried writing a long post about walking between sheung wan and shek tong tsui in 2006 vs 2017 to clarify something but my unfamiliarity and mixed emotions were showing. that's it. deleted rest of a long rambling post.

XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Monday, 11 June 2018 17:58 (two years ago) link

Been here for two days and have already changed plans to nix Shanghai and stay here for a few days more before heading to Beijing. I think I can simultaneously hold all three “this city is special,” “you should have been here years ago,” and “gentrification has ruined the place” perspectives at the same time.

Buildings older than 1990 stand out from the scene like old appendixes, there are more $200K cars here than Beverly Hills, and the construction along the train line down from Shenzhen is indistinguishable from SimCity at 10x the speed. OTOH, had an all-time great meal somewhere here at 3am, had a cab ride with a driver who insisted that we all sing “California Dreaming” together when he learned we were from LA, and goddamn.... killer Hedgehog show at This Town Needs. Going out the hotel door is insane and great.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 18 June 2018 03:31 (two years ago) link

good choice. dig deeper into hk.

XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Monday, 18 June 2018 07:04 (two years ago) link

lol ironically when I hear “California Dreamin” it is intrinsically linked w “Chungking Express” and nothing else. That would have been so surreal for me.

the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 29 June 2018 04:18 (two years ago) link

I understand why people miss Hong Kong. I miss Hong Kong.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 02:01 (two years ago) link

i too miss hong kong

the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:30 (two years ago) link

Thirded, and I’ve only spent three days there!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 17:36 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

revive? or is there another thread to discuss HK?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:52 (nine months ago) link

穹顶之下: Rolling 中华人民共和国 / People's Republic of China (PRC) Thread

some mentions on here

calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:57 (nine months ago) link

I always forget how staggeringly Western ILX is (unless it is the middle east)...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 22:32 (nine months ago) link

at least they've got one region sorted :p

calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 22:44 (nine months ago) link

When these protesters are waving British colonial flags or stars and stripes i don't what to say tbh

calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 22:47 (nine months ago) link

I've been there a few times, AMA

maffew12, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 22:51 (nine months ago) link

I recommend a very long recent episode of the "Grubstakers" podcast on HK that eventually goes into the highly diverse makeup of the protesters

maffew12, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 22:52 (nine months ago) link

(ideologically speaking)

maffew12, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 22:53 (nine months ago) link

a lot of the familiar human grievances behind these protests get lost in all the noise, which is very sad.

calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 22:57 (nine months ago) link

I work with a guy from Hong Kong and he's been back and forth to there quite a lot recently but I've never actually heard him talking about what's going on.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 23:00 (nine months ago) link

Even where I am (chile) one of the Taiwanese pollo places got fucked with by the here Chinese because the restaurant had a HK support sign.

Yerac, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 23:02 (nine months ago) link

unless you are buddies, I'm not sure I'd bother to bring it up. I feel like I have a decent grasp of it but it is in essence a very confused thing. Daily life goes on basically as normal, it isn't the battleground you get the picture of sometimes

maffew12, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 23:04 (nine months ago) link

xp

maffew12, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 23:04 (nine months ago) link

Yes, we don't have that kind of relationship, he's not really a hanging out kinda guy.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 23:07 (nine months ago) link

You could just ask him if his family is all in HK and if they are ok.

Yerac, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 23:12 (nine months ago) link

They are, that's why he goes back!

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 23:23 (nine months ago) link

I haven't been following closely but have been seeing bits via twitter. There's this thread instigated by an American who's spent a lot of time in Hong Kong during the riots. I feel slightly wary of the outsider perspective on something that's probably changed character in quite complex ways since its started - he's very supportive of the protests and Hong Kong culture in a way that seems to skew things a bit sometimes, but it seems like a useful summary:

SHAME-FREE thread: ask the dumbest question you have about the Hong Kong protests. I'll try to answer it or loop in a real Hong Konger to answer it for you. No question too ignorant or basic.

— Pinboard (@Pinboard) October 15, 2019

He also wrote this quite nice piece on the mechanics of protest.

A Walk in Hong Kong

I found this Chuang piece on the perspective from within China an interesting and useful perspective, with wider application to how government can control media, and how absence of information doesn't mean that there's a gap from which you can infer correctly what's going on, more that you get stuck on an axis of the controlled government messaage and confusion.

Why are informed Beijingers increasingly baffled by the struggle in Hong Kong?

There's a useful timeline if slightly annoyingly presented here.

Fizzles, Thursday, 17 October 2019 05:35 (nine months ago) link

two months pass...

reusing this thread to offset some air miles

theres no real reason to avoid a layover in HK airport in the next few months.....right?

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 January 2020 13:13 (seven months ago) link

people i know have been through hong kong airport fine over the last month. i almost did as well, but then went via dubai, because of the same doubts as you, which was a) in retrospect a bit silly and b) the rong decision because dubai airport is horrible and i quite like hong kong airport as airports go (good food options and cheap electronics).

Fizzles, Saturday, 4 January 2020 08:21 (seven months ago) link

excellent, seeing as we booked regardless

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Saturday, 4 January 2020 10:34 (seven months ago) link

six months pass...

reusing this thread to offset some air miles

theres no real reason to avoid a layover in HK airport in the next few months.....right?

― Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 January 2020 13:13 (six months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Oh my

Covfefe and TV (ken c), Saturday, 1 August 2020 00:59 (one week ago) link


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