TV Programmes that no one else seems to remember

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I sometimes get the feeling I was the only person in the world who watched a certain programme, or that everybody else has had their memory wiped by alien lizards. Whenever those reminising about 'TV in our childhood' conversations come around, these things always draw a blank from everyone else:

1)Space Sentinels
A space cartoon thing. I think there were three of them: two blokes and a woman, with special powers. One could turn into animals, another could run really fast, not sure about the other one - maybe invisible? And there was a giant face in their spaceship that told them what to do. Or something. And I think they were called Sentinel 1, Sentinel 2, etc. This is probably late 70s.

2)Graeme's Gang (or Graham's Gang?)
A gang of kids. Probably one of them was called Graham. Or Graeme. Late 70s again, I think.

3)Captain Zep
Very-low budget programme. There would be a whodunnit space crime, told in a comic book style (in other words the pictures didn't move). Then they would cut to a studio with loads of kids in it and Captain Zep (Super Space Detective) would try to help them solve the crime. Probably about 1983 or 1984. It was rubbish.

4)Dog Food Dan and the Carmarthen Cowboy
Two lorry drivers meet at a transport cafe in the north of England. One is driving from Hull to Carmarthen with a load of dog food. The other is driving from Carmathen to Hull with something else (presumably not cowboys). What are the chances of that!? They meet up every few days heading in the opposite direction, little realising that they are both starting affairs with each others' wives (with 'hilarious' consequences). Featured the bloke who was the Kirk character in Dear John. About 1988 or 1989.

Does anybody else out there remember these or have I just imagined them?

Tehrannosaurus HoBB (the pirate king), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link

go outside fatty

Blast from the Past, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 11:02 (thirteen years ago) link

5) Big Jim and the Figaro Club

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 11:03 (thirteen years ago) link

(4) was written by David "Perrin" Nobbs.

How about Hope & Keen's Crazy Bus?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 11:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I have exactly the same thing with a kids programme set in a world where for some reason all the power has gone (although I remember shots of power cables humming so maybe it wasn't all the power), there was lots of shots of broken down cars and rubbish dumps. It was very bleak and I'm sure one character lived in a caravan. It was kind of Stig of the Dump-esque. This is the mid 70s I think.

And it isn't The Tomorrow People.

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 11:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I remember Graham's Gang (title only).

And humming power cables.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 11:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Molesto The Ape

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 11:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Ned: is it This?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 11:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I remember one where a guy in a brown dog suit would ride around on a quad bike and make stuff. There were factsheets you could send off for. I can't remember anything else apart from that, and it might have been on about the same time as Pob.

stet (stet), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 11:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I veguely recall all the ones in the original post, Space Sentinals and Captain Zep especially. They're probably on the TV Cream website, though that might take some of the "pleasure" out of straining to remember and picing together details of half forgotten programmes with your mates. It's kind of fun, when you've got a few pints inside you especially, to wonder out loud "did I imagine it or was there once a kids programme... " rather than a website giving you all the details instantly.

David Orton (scarlet), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Space Sentinels

I *think* I remember this one, but I'm not sure. There are a few things I remember watching on telly when I was 2 or 3 - so, 1980-81 - and several were low-budget sci-fi cartoons.

Captain Zep

I'd never heard of this until a couple of weeks ago, when someone at work downloaded the theme tune (from TV Cream, I think). And the theme tune is *great*.

I was going to suggest The Changes to Ned, too. I've never seen the TV series, though. (and it can't be as good as the books, which are great. Especially the first one, which is all about how The Changes come to an end)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I vaguely remember a series on TV in the mid-to-late 70s which had humming power lines in it, and everything was very bleak. Might have been about a post-nuclear-attack Britain. People scavenging for things, and forming new settlements/fighting with each other. The Survivors, or something??

C J (C J), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:04 (thirteen years ago) link

The humming power lines are *definitely* The Changes.

The 70s was the time for bleak post-nuclear shows, of course. (The Changes wasn't post-nuclear, but it did have the similar "return of medievalism" trope)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I remember The Changes. What happened at the end?

jz, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I remember one where a guy in a brown dog suit would ride around on a quad bike and make stuff. There were factsheets you could send off for. I can't remember anything else apart from that, and it might have been on about the same time as Pob.

Hector's House?

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:13 (thirteen years ago) link

And Everything Was Back To Normal!

(although the TV series was rather different to the books. In the books, Everything Is Back To Normal happens at the end of the first book; the three books are in reverse chronological order, but they're not really prequels because the stories are unrelated)

(xpost)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:15 (thirteen years ago) link

And Everything Was Back To Normal!

But what was the mysterious power that turned everyone into Luddites?

jz, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Magic!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:17 (thirteen years ago) link

(well, a combination of magic and drug addiction)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:18 (thirteen years ago) link

didn't Children Of The Stones have humming power lines in it as well? or am i mixing up my 'itv series that i only ever saw when visiting cousins'?

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I've never seen that one either.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Magic!

Oh.

I remember the first episode, which was very mysterious and scary. But not much else.

jz, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:19 (thirteen years ago) link

British post-apocalypse television:
http://www.gnelson.demon.co.uk/tripage/patv.html

jz, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Hector's House?
No, but thanks! This dog was brown, but also about the size of Bungle from Rainbow, and drove a red quad bike.

stet (stet), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I remember finding The Book Tower, especially the first series with Tom Baker, oddly creepy and ghostly. Even though it was just a book review programme. Set in a tower, which may have had something to do with it.

David Orton (scarlet), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link

it was indeed the changes, a great show (the paddy kingsland music is pretty good too, the sound of mechanical progress suddenly jarred).

i find the early-mid 70s very interesting in terms of television. (at a distance) the theme of post-apocalypticism seems to loom large, but its vague, uneasy, doesnt really seem to tie into anything, other than ecological and environmental concerns, a feeling that the white heat of technology, and brash colours of the 60s somehow hadnt yielded us much, a sort of subsumed longing for a return to imagined rural roots.

the empty, devoid landscapes of these post-apocalypses were always unstated, vague, mystical even, the land saying enough! pagan shadows arising from slumbers. and these ends of modernity, weren't terrible, they seemed sort of desired, necessary even, a rebalancing

i liked threads, but the early 80s nuclear/cold war type ones were obviously more prosaic, tangible, dreaded, no improved agrarian future here.

charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link

oh, and of course, Penda's Fen

charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Ace of Wands
Mandog

Bob Six (bobbysix), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Dizzy Heights

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey - well done Michael Jones! The Changes it was. They never hesitated in scaring children back then.

Ned T.RIfle II (Ned T.Rifle II), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I remember Dizzy Heights. It appealed to my sense of humour.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:53 (thirteen years ago) link

And an excellent website as well- it's even got clips! - the Beeb are brilliant.

Children of the Stones was different - it had humming stones! Actually I don't know if they actually hummed or it was just spooky music to accompany shots of standing stones. The stones were at Avebury and when we went there on a school trip we were too scared to touch the stones!

Ned T.RIfle II (Ned T.Rifle II), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:02 (thirteen years ago) link

We ned a retrun to apocolypse anxiety, I feel. I need to feel that I am sitting in the middle of a huge target to become truly active.

What a boring title, no wonder no one remembered it. Sounds like a documentary about the menopause.

I have been to Avebury. I did krautrock noises.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:07 (thirteen years ago) link

The Changes was superb; I think I used to have nightmares about Rafiq Anwar. Charltonlido is very good above on the atmosphere and attitude of early '70s TV though I can't separate it from my own time-occluded sensations of the period. Pylons. Everywhere.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I had that 70s thing filtered through during 80s I guess. I MAY have seen The Changes once but unsure, could be confusing it with the Friday Film string on Children's BBC.

Unfortunately I only really remember the shows everyone else remembers too.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link

The titles of The Changes are *so* 1970s - a BR Blue Western loco!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:15 (thirteen years ago) link

the one scene i remember from COTS(?) is the parade with the flourescent lights which started glowing as they passed under the powerlines. but, as i said, we were a bbc family and i only caught odd episodes of this (and magpie, tomorrow people etc) whilst visiting cousins so it could be something completely different.

(amazon tells me tomorrow people box set of all 8 series out shortly. radiophonic workshop TP theme music cd as well. COTS dvds for £8 too)

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Just ordered the book of The Changes.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0440504139/qid=1142428610/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_3_1/026-1763139-2214862
Looks terrific.

Ned T.RIfle II (Ned T.Rifle II), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:18 (thirteen years ago) link

> a BR Blue Western loco

looks like a 47

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Nigel Kneale's Beasts (watched it recently and it was great)
Armchair Thriller (esp. Quiet As A Nun)
Bad Boyes - mid 80's schoolboy romp!

The Changes occasionaly pops up on ebay - I'd love to see it. I wonder why the BBC dont commision more stuff like that, Children Of The Stones and ones like the Chocky Trilogy. Even up to the early 90's you'd get programmes like Tom's Midnight Garden and Moondial.

JohnFoxxsJuno (JohnFoxxsJuno), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Nobody except me remembers Bright's Boffins and Robert's Robots.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link

looks like a 47

The title appears over a 47, but there's a 52 earlier in the title sequence.

Even up to the early 90's you'd get programmes like Tom's Midnight Garden and Moondial.

Moondial was another fantastic series. Just this morning, coincidentally, I was searching for local photos for another thread (the Japanese War Tuba thread) and came across a photo of the Moondial itself.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link

(it's on this page, about 2/3 of the way down: http://www.picturesofengland.com/England/Lincolnshire/pictures/thumbnails )

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link

morrises minor, or something like that. about a morris minor repair shop. starred tony hawks, and they went on to record, morris minor and the majors (i htink) "stutter rap (no sleep till bedtime)" another hi-larious brit-novelty pop rap tune.

never heard it tho, there was only one copy on slsk and i never managed to get it.

never met anyone who remembers seeing this i dont think

ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I remember that too!

They released two singles - the other one was called "This is the chorus". The chorus went:

This is the chorus
It goes round and around and gets into your brain
This is the chorus
And twenty seconds from now, you'll hear it again.

I'm fairly sure that was them, anyway.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I certainly remember Robert's Robots - written by the same chap who did Rentaghost. I thought it was funny.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Weren't you allowed to watch ITV, Koogs? Not even Just William?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

whenever britishes call tv shows 'programmes' i imagine them watching tv in the 'bless this house' living room. programme.

sunny successor (katharine), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost: I remember Ace Of Wands. Main character was called Tarot, sig went something like "Tarot has a Tarot phenomenon, Tarot is a mystic man." Good, but Timeslip was even better.

OK, does anyone remember:

Nice Time (comedy sketch show starring Kenny Everett & Germaine Greer)
Mad Mad Women
It's Awfully Bad For Your Eyes, Darling

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Ambrose I remember that Morris Minor sitcom vaguely. Even a tiny bit of the Chas n' Dave-ish theme tune ("Mooorrrrrriss Minor..." er, yeah that's about it)

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Groovy Ghoulies, anyone?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:51 (thirteen years ago) link

The king of these progs for me is Zokko. I have one friend who remembers it - but many people who surely must have watched it get strangely adamant that I'm making it up. However mark s remembers it which is a good sign. There's also a bit on the net, although the best link, which had a picture of the zokko pinball table, is now mysteriously missing.
http://tv.cream.org/lookin/saturdaymorning/index.htm

and

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Film_and_TV/Question49496.html

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Baggy Pants and The Nitwits

piscesboy, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link

x-post Zokko : link now found http://www.panatropic.net/Yak/yak1/yak1.html

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

An American one here, but no one I talk to about it seems to remember the late '80s E.R. that was a sitcom starring George Clooney and Elliott Gould.

jonviachicago, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Early eighties, actually.

Just Our Luck -- the idiot program about a guy and his genie slave. Programmed against The A-Team; died.

There Goes the Neighborhood -- Buddy Hackett and two other lamers are 'hobos' in a very badly made-up sense who inherit a fortune and deal with a prim and proper butler all day

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

throb.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

in fact, i just had to google it to make sure that i hadn't hallucinated it. it ran for two seasons starting in '86, according to imdb.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

whenever ameicans talk about shows i imagine a little velour curtain drawing back across the screen and a top hatted MC announcing the next Act


(this goes for gig=show too)

ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

morrises minor, or something like that. about a morris minor repair shop. starred tony hawks, and they went on to record, morris minor and the majors (i htink) "stutter rap (no sleep till bedtime)" another hi-larious brit-novelty pop rap tune.
never heard it tho, there was only one copy on slsk and i never managed to get it.

I remember this. I'm ashamed to admit I bought the 7" single. I thought the rubbish comedy show was a spin-off of the record, rather than the other way round.

Tehrannosaurus HoBB (the pirate king), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

The Home Front - Peter Tinniswood's existential time-travel black comedy that is theoretically my favourite programme ever (given that I haven't seen it since 1981) and still breaks my heart. (I found a novelisation in the library a few years back and it was great but it wasn't the same.)

I'm thinking six, six, six (noodle vague), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

live action Little Lulu

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

That TV Cream site is great - here is the Space Sentinels revealed!

Tehrannosaurus HoBB (the pirate king), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Me talking about the Space Sentinels.

Brilliant TV Shows That Noone Apart From Me Appears To Have Seen

Me talking again about the Space Sentinels.

Obscure Children's Cartoons

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Cool.

Tehrannosaurus HoBB (the pirate king), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Doctor Doctor, anyone? With Matt "Max Headroom" Frewer in the lead?

Ok then.

John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

i thought doctor doctor was the funniest show on for the short time it existed.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I remember feeling the same way...of course, unless the TV on DVD thing goes even more batshit crazy, I will probably never know for sure.

John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Doctor Doctor, anyone? With Matt "Max Headroom" Frewer in the lead?

There were a few good episodes, I seem to recall.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

hese ends of modernity, weren't terrible, they seemed sort of desired, necessary even, a rebalancing

I've been watching a lot of Soviet cartoons from this era and there's a lot of this in them.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

for my pick , pls see:

Brilliant TV Shows That Noone Apart From Me Appears To Have Seen

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

"From Oregon With Love," anyone?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link

No one I've asked seems to remember "Small Wonder."

Ivan Gallardo (Ivan), Thursday, 16 March 2006 03:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, I *loved* Small Wonder when I was little.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 16 March 2006 09:21 (thirteen years ago) link

So Haunt Me

The Children of Green Knowe

Geordie Racer (may have been part of a kids educational programme)

Some programme about a hotel, I don't know whether it was a drama or a comedy. My mum used to watch it on a friday or saturday night when I was quite young, maybe about 15 years ago. She doesn't know what I'm talking about though. I vaguely remember folk having affairs, some old woman wandering the corridors, I don't even know if it was british or american.

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Thursday, 16 March 2006 09:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, that's Hotel. It was set in San Francisco and featured the same posturing, backstabbing bitches and shoulder pads common to all late-80s US nighttime soaps. It was one of the last to be commissioned - like after Falcon Crest or Dynasty, so it was appalling and had to have James Brolin in it. That's an '80s US TV regulation.

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 16 March 2006 09:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm getting the feeling that I'm going to keep popping up here and saying "Oh! I remember that!"

So Haunt Me - not bad for a BBC sitcom. It got mentioned in the press around here, because one joke featured a disparaging comment about the place.

The Children Of Green Knowe, I don't see how anyone could forget. I've thought about seeing if we could have a Cambridge FAP there - it's just off the A14, and they are willing to show people round if you get in touch in advance.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 16 March 2006 09:57 (thirteen years ago) link

So Haunt Me was just awful!

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 16 March 2006 10:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I had lower comedy standards when I was a teenager.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 16 March 2006 10:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Hotel! Obvious really...

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Thursday, 16 March 2006 10:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Were there topiary animals in Greene Knowe, or am I confusing it with the Shining?

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Thursday, 16 March 2006 10:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Captain Zep - My memory may be playing tricks on me but all the kids in the audience for this show used to wear Captain Zep pin badges. You could also write in from home having solved something and they would send you a badge (my memory not clear on this as you can tell). Anyway when I wrote off and said badge arrived it was just a crappy sticker. I was REALLY disappointed. I seem to remember my Mum and I writing back and saying how rubbish this was and they sent me a proper metal pin badge as worn on the show. (No such problems with Tiger Tim and The Untied Shoelaces Show, they sent me a badge no problem. Good old Tiger Tim) I can't remember what this Zep badge looked like and can't remember seeing it in my badge box so I'm doubting this is true but I seem to have some memory of it.

My standard 'I remember this and you don't' show is 'The Ghosts of Montley Hall'. Sunday afternoons before (after?) Glen Michael's Cavalcade

mms (mms), Thursday, 16 March 2006 10:20 (thirteen years ago) link

It was Motley Hall, wasn't it?

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 16 March 2006 10:28 (thirteen years ago) link

1. Connie - Mid-1980's ITV drama set around the rag trade in the Midlands. Starred Stephanie Beacham.

2. Strike It Rich - this was on the BBC and was about Premium Bond/lottery winners.

3. Maelstrom - spooky 1980's thriller set in Scandinavia. Scary-looking dolls played a prominent part.

4. Westbeach - Early 1990's post-Eldorado BBC soap effort at two feuding families in a seaside town.

5. Rides - Early 1990's drama about an all-women taxi firm.

Am I ringing any bells here?

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Thursday, 16 March 2006 10:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Were there topiary animals in Greene Knowe

Yes.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 16 March 2006 10:43 (thirteen years ago) link

It was Motley Hall, wasn't it?

That's what I had written originally and then changed stupidly. Checked TV Cream and it was indeed Motley.

mms (mms), Thursday, 16 March 2006 10:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Connie was a classic Brit wannabe Dallas. She was dressed in lace, even though it was 5 below zero...

Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Thursday, 16 March 2006 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

What about "Angie"? I think it was set in Philadelphia.

andy --, Thursday, 16 March 2006 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

Groovy Ghoulies, anyone?

^this

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 November 2019 15:54 (one week ago) link

great revive

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 30 November 2019 15:58 (one week ago) link


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