Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

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Biden says he intends to run for president

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

in case anyone is curious about what would make vote 3d party -- or not at all -- for president, it is this. and i am saying this as someone who would vote for lieberman if the republican was much worse. everytime you use yer credit cards, you pay for this assclown's campaign.

that said, i anticipate that he won't even come close to winning the nomination.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i like plagirizin' joe!

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

you may sing a different tune if you ever have to consider bankruptcy ... and find that you can't do that b/c of sen. mastercard.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

http://media.rapnewsdirect.com/CDCovers/Joe_Budden/Joe_Budden/t.300.default.jpg

Hugh Jarmes (jaxon), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

he wasn't the only senator to vote for that bill, ya know.

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

he's the only one who voted for it who has announced that he's running for president. and he is ESPECIALLY bad & shameless wr2 the credit card industry.

everyone has their lines that cannot be crossed. and this is mine.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

He is deluded by his standing in the Senate. His standing in the country is 'meh'.

Aimless (Aimless), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

name an office holding democrat with a higher national profile on foreign affairs or the war on terrorism

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Have any Republicanz announced other than Frist?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

The credit card bizness is something I need to get into. I'd name my card like, UserioCard.

Biden's a tool, but promoting Lieberman ahead of him seems so so wrong. He pushes all my buttons, maybe it's a style thing.

Is Frist's running mate Terry Schiavo, I heard he just pronounced her alive and well.

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not a huge fan of Biden, but Lieberman is much worse (esp. since insurance industry and credit industry cancel each other out by and large.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link

oh don't get me wrong -- i don't like lieberman very much, either. and now that i think about it, maybe lieberman IS worse -- at least biden isn't a self-righteous bluenose.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

both joes are treacherous, back-stabbing wusses and neither one is who i would pick to lead the democratic party.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

No disagreement there.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, but come 2008 you'll line up to vote for either of them if you have to. The Democrats know they've got you by the short and curlies.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh I'd vote for either them over anyone the Republicans have put up since oh maybe Eisenhower, but that's not saying a hell of a lot.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean technically I've already voted for a Lieberman ticket.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

well, the thing to do is make sure that neither joementum GETS to be the nominee. and neither one is likely to, so what i'm saying is hot air i guess.

i'm tempted to answer milo by saying "not this time," but i know myself better than that -- still, if either biden or lieberman is the man on 11/2008 then i am going into the voting booth w/ a HAZMAT suit (if i bother to show up at all).

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

blount otm. also, name a national democrat with a greater toughness/competence (i.e. will keep you safe) aura

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Clark?

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

The guy literaly doesn't blink, who's tougher than that?

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Now you're talking.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha, so he passes the Ross Perot test, then?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

the quality blount and gabbneb allude to = "most likely democrat to be voted for by republican-voting voters if all actual real republican candidates for some reason declined to stand"

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, how did Clinton win twice then?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link

by being black

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

mark s - there are a lot of people who vote for Republicans who *aren't* Republicans. and as for the qualities blount and I allude to, name a Republican prospect (other than McCain or Cheney, who I think we'd both concede) who has more of them than Biden.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, how did Clinton win twice then?

George H.W. Bush. Robert J. Dole.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link

it's all about who is most vigorous, while still retaining credibility that they know what they're doing

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

In that case, it's too bad Bush can't run again.

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

this is exactly the type of thinking that got us john kerry.

and republicans have credit card bills, too.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

the idea that biden - still less lieberman - can pick up whatever of the "clinton vote" that went to 43 seems demented to me

both of them are way more beltway-insider names than they are "outsider-running-against-the-system" names

clinton won (first time) bcz of perot also

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

no, it's exactly the opposite of the thinking that got us John Kerry. have you ever seen a sleepier candidate?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

ie clinton was a system-glitch president in some ways (tho so wz 43)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Kerry was picked on resume, rather than personal characteristics (where Biden easily outweighs him).

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

he is ESPECIALLY bad & shameless wr2 the credit card industry.

right, because he is the Senator from Delaware. when he is President, he won't be from Delaware anymore.

also, is there some way that this is equivalent to being especially bad & shameless wrt EVERY industry (tho the drug companies especially, in Frist's case)?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

gabb, if yer posts are typical of what other democratic apparatchiki are thinking then the party is good and fucked. and the rest of us better get used to saying "president jeb bush."

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

why? who do you think is better?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't think Clinton was that much of a system glitch winner as you say. It was a veritable electoral college landslide both times.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

at this stage in the 1992 election wasn't biden considered a way sweeter candidate than clinton? when the dems began their run-off against each other, clinton was an outsider and low in the field

perot was the glitch - a third-party contender bcz he was RICHER THAN CROESUS he holed bush's vote then collapsed himself: that's a pretty rare circumstance; i don't believe clinton wd have smashed through bush's defences on his own

clinton second time was merely a successful amd popular incumbent, so not a glitch winner then, no

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

if there'd been a significant perot-style third-party candidate robbing bush43 from the libertarian right last year, kerry could have won

(i somewhat doubt he would, given what a fuck-awful show he put on)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

"at this stage in the 1992 election" = 1989 i guess!

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

exit polling showed that Clinton would have won 92 without Perot

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

And that Kerry won.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Perot voters were split between Bush and Clinton as second-choice and voted strongly Democrat down-ballot. Perot 'stealing' the election for Clinton is pretty much a myth.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 June 2005 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link

And that Kerry won.

the exit polls in 92 matched the results. and maybe Kerry did win.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 23:32 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry my post abt kerry obscured the point i wz makin abt perot's role in transforming the dynamic in mid-92 (which exit polls say nothing abt): i wasn't saying perot ended up splitting the republican vote (which i kinda WAS saying might have happened last year, which wz a difft kind of battle in a very difft situation)

"difft kind of battle in a very difft situation" is actually the general point i am makin: biden seems to me the poster-boy of "if things play out the way they did last time, it's OUR TURN"

mark s (mark s), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:09 (fourteen years ago) link

but whatever it's 3 o'clock in the morning and 91° here so my um "analytical skills" are sharply cut w.the perverse boredom of bein unable to get to sleep

mark s (mark s), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link

guys, 2008 is faaaaaaaaaaaaaar away in policital time.

Bush could be assassinated by then.

Did many know who the hell Clinton was outside Arkansas before the 1992 election?

Let Biden try. I'm voting for the best guy.. if McCain runs and wins the nomination for the Repubs and someone like Biden or Lieberman wins the Dem nomination, I'm considering McCain..(and i stress "considering")

IF that happens, so much for what a Dem or Repub means.

donut e-goo (donut), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Examining the full exchange and especially what the old Iowa guy said, Biden's urge to slap the guy silly must have been overwhelming.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 6 December 2019 20:32 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

This guy isn't dead yet?

Fetchboy, Sunday, 22 December 2019 00:37 (one month ago) link

shh!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 December 2019 00:39 (one month ago) link

how would we tell?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 December 2019 01:27 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

Joe Biden, five years before invasion, said the Senate needed to “come to our milk” and make a decision on war with Iraq, and the only way of disarming the country is "taking Saddam down" https://t.co/LZBjtyHinr

— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) January 7, 2020

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 22:11 (one month ago) link

"come to our milk"?

☮️ (peace, man), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 22:14 (one month ago) link

it's a leg-hair thing, you don't want to know

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 22:15 (one month ago) link

Here’s Joe Biden on the Senate Floor bragging about all the times he’s tried to cut Social Security. pic.twitter.com/t0RNDFFN9L

— Every Billionaire Is A Policy Failure (@DanRiffle) January 15, 2020

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:14 (one month ago) link

uncanny

Biden-voice iPhone hack: type “Ok Mack” and then let the middle predictive text button do the rest pic.twitter.com/NGQnLWYq3k

— Colm Quinn (@colmfquinn) January 23, 2020

chapoquidditch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 January 2020 22:51 (four weeks ago) link

I just want a darraghmac voice hack. LADS

El Tomboto, Thursday, 23 January 2020 22:53 (four weeks ago) link

lol he can't even wait for the general election to roll this shit out

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 25 January 2020 16:12 (three weeks ago) link

genuinely unsettling

Joe Biden's Instagram Stories are next level stuff. pic.twitter.com/JGbOYS4USp

— Florian 🥁 🕶️ (@BetaODork) January 25, 2020

chapoquidditch (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 26 January 2020 07:11 (three weeks ago) link

BREAKING: 30 @CCIAction and @IAStudentAction members are refusing to leave @JoeBiden’s statewide headquarters in Des Moines over his lies about #MedicareForAll and his ties to the insurance company CEOs who are funding his campaign. pic.twitter.com/95qJWFv3x6

— Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement Action (@CCIAction) January 27, 2020

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:34 (three weeks ago) link

yeah I think that's the same incident referred to by a Biden surrogate as "Sanders sending gypsies"

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:37 (three weeks ago) link

it's cool that sanders sent ian mackaye

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:38 (three weeks ago) link

and william burroughs!

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:38 (three weeks ago) link

man bun guy is a Pete mole

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:40 (three weeks ago) link

as far as local protesting goes, I could tell it was CCI and not the Catholic Worker movement people because no one had chained themselves to anything

do not piss off the catholic worker people, is what I'm saying

babu frik fan account (mh), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:27 (three weeks ago) link

A man in Iowa asks Joe Biden to stop supporting the building of new pipelines. Joe Biden tells him to go vote for someone else and then starts accusing him of voting for Bernie Sanders. Actually, the man says, he's voting for Tom Steyer. Very awkward. pic.twitter.com/OOuGiypED8

— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) January 28, 2020

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 21:33 (three weeks ago) link

don't give up, Joe! make him vote for Bernie!

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 22:13 (three weeks ago) link

hmm I wonder if that man is who I think he is and he might be fucking with Joe

babu frik fan account (mh), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 00:46 (three weeks ago) link

lol yeah
iirc I have voted for him

A man in Iowa asks Joe Biden to stop supporting the building of new pipelines. Joe Biden tells him to go vote for someone else and then starts accusing him of voting for Bernie Sanders. Actually, the man says, he's voting for Tom Steyer. Very awkward. pic.twitter.com/OOuGiypED8

— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) January 28, 2020

babu frik fan account (mh), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 00:48 (three weeks ago) link

whoops meant to link this


Someone has informed me that the man in the Biden video above is Ed Fallon, a former long time Democratic state rep. in Iowa. Biden told a long-time Iowa politico on camera to vote for someone else and then grabbed him by his jacket.

— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) January 28, 2020

babu frik fan account (mh), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 00:49 (three weeks ago) link

Goddamn it

in any case, it’s Ed Fallon, a local sometimes candidate

babu frik fan account (mh), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 00:50 (three weeks ago) link

I have to admit I kinda love how Tom Steyer keeps getting involved in stuff like this.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 09:54 (three weeks ago) link

Whats happened to this guy? Six months ago this showroom dummy was being wheeled around checked out and everyone hoping no one would notice, now he's ready to bump heads

anvil, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 18:44 (three weeks ago) link

On my flight into Des Moines tonight I was seated in front of a very drunk Biden staffer who proceeded to give her seat mate a hand job. I wish I was making this up.

— Krilldozer (@KrillTusk) January 31, 2020

the main character Cooly and his fart attack (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 31 January 2020 11:16 (two weeks ago) link

that's the kind of job creation america needs

the main character Cooly and his fart attack (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 31 January 2020 11:16 (two weeks ago) link

used to have to park in one of the lots overlooking the airport in order to get that kind of action

babu frik fan account (mh), Friday, 31 January 2020 15:09 (two weeks ago) link

vote for yang - he understands how machines and AI are quickly overwhelming the human hand job industry

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 31 January 2020 15:53 (two weeks ago) link

YEEEEEEEEEEAH

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 31 January 2020 16:32 (two weeks ago) link

"Finally some effective voter outreach"

-Comfortably Smug

nickn, Friday, 31 January 2020 17:29 (two weeks ago) link

*biden campaign staff frantically making 'cut it out' hand gestures just off-camera*

What pic.twitter.com/9woh5et56C

— R A T M O D E (@lib_crusher) February 3, 2020

the main character Cooly and his fart attack (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 3 February 2020 16:15 (two weeks ago) link

wow I miss some p wild stuff skipping over this thread huh

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 3 February 2020 16:37 (two weeks ago) link

i don't know exactly when joe was embalmed but it seems to be keeping him sharp

Savannah Guthrie: "Why would he [Hunter] have that job if not for who his father was?"

Joe Biden: "Cause he's a very bright guy." pic.twitter.com/mZQw6stvnu

— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) February 3, 2020

the main character Cooly and his fart attack (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 3 February 2020 16:38 (two weeks ago) link

If what Hunter Biden did was inherently corrupt to the point of illegality, it invalidates the entire operating premise of the Ivy League.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 3 February 2020 19:42 (two weeks ago) link

Well, it was about time someone fired Iowa tbf

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 February 2020 16:44 (two weeks ago) link

‘We had precinct captains who didn’t know how to run a caucus. And a few didn’t even show,’ said a top Biden campaign official.

You think Uncle Ray-Ray is going to miss NCIS: New Orleans for this shit?

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 6 February 2020 16:53 (two weeks ago) link

Handjobs and Showroom Dummies -- new thread title

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 February 2020 17:02 (two weeks ago) link

Biden campaigns as if he's acting on the assumption that he's so well-known and well-liked that he doesn't have to say what he wants to do as president other than sit behind the big desk and be Good Old Joe Biden, That Regular Guy You Can Trust.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 6 February 2020 17:05 (two weeks ago) link

i dont like doing a tweet but if I have to see this

Those young people are dumb as a rock

pic.twitter.com/1gccjBxAer

— Sahil Habibi (@progressvoice) February 10, 2020

anvil, Monday, 10 February 2020 21:46 (one week ago) link

Biden, 95 days ago, filing for the New Hampshire ballot: “I plan on trying to win New Hampshire. I’m not here to come in second. I never enter anything to come in second.”

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) February 11, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:53 (one week ago) link

except that time when i was vice president. for eight years.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:57 (one week ago) link

he's never come in second yet! 4th in 2020 Iowa, 5th in 2008 Iowa, and dropped out before the primaries in 1988

symsymsym, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:13 (one week ago) link


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