Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

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Biden says he intends to run for president

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

in case anyone is curious about what would make vote 3d party -- or not at all -- for president, it is this. and i am saying this as someone who would vote for lieberman if the republican was much worse. everytime you use yer credit cards, you pay for this assclown's campaign.

that said, i anticipate that he won't even come close to winning the nomination.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i like plagirizin' joe!

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

you may sing a different tune if you ever have to consider bankruptcy ... and find that you can't do that b/c of sen. mastercard.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

http://media.rapnewsdirect.com/CDCovers/Joe_Budden/Joe_Budden/t.300.default.jpg

Hugh Jarmes (jaxon), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

he wasn't the only senator to vote for that bill, ya know.

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

he's the only one who voted for it who has announced that he's running for president. and he is ESPECIALLY bad & shameless wr2 the credit card industry.

everyone has their lines that cannot be crossed. and this is mine.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

He is deluded by his standing in the Senate. His standing in the country is 'meh'.

Aimless (Aimless), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

name an office holding democrat with a higher national profile on foreign affairs or the war on terrorism

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Have any Republicanz announced other than Frist?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

The credit card bizness is something I need to get into. I'd name my card like, UserioCard.

Biden's a tool, but promoting Lieberman ahead of him seems so so wrong. He pushes all my buttons, maybe it's a style thing.

Is Frist's running mate Terry Schiavo, I heard he just pronounced her alive and well.

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not a huge fan of Biden, but Lieberman is much worse (esp. since insurance industry and credit industry cancel each other out by and large.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link

oh don't get me wrong -- i don't like lieberman very much, either. and now that i think about it, maybe lieberman IS worse -- at least biden isn't a self-righteous bluenose.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

both joes are treacherous, back-stabbing wusses and neither one is who i would pick to lead the democratic party.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

No disagreement there.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, but come 2008 you'll line up to vote for either of them if you have to. The Democrats know they've got you by the short and curlies.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh I'd vote for either them over anyone the Republicans have put up since oh maybe Eisenhower, but that's not saying a hell of a lot.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean technically I've already voted for a Lieberman ticket.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

well, the thing to do is make sure that neither joementum GETS to be the nominee. and neither one is likely to, so what i'm saying is hot air i guess.

i'm tempted to answer milo by saying "not this time," but i know myself better than that -- still, if either biden or lieberman is the man on 11/2008 then i am going into the voting booth w/ a HAZMAT suit (if i bother to show up at all).

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

blount otm. also, name a national democrat with a greater toughness/competence (i.e. will keep you safe) aura

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Clark?

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

The guy literaly doesn't blink, who's tougher than that?

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Now you're talking.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha, so he passes the Ross Perot test, then?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

the quality blount and gabbneb allude to = "most likely democrat to be voted for by republican-voting voters if all actual real republican candidates for some reason declined to stand"

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, how did Clinton win twice then?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link

by being black

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

mark s - there are a lot of people who vote for Republicans who *aren't* Republicans. and as for the qualities blount and I allude to, name a Republican prospect (other than McCain or Cheney, who I think we'd both concede) who has more of them than Biden.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, how did Clinton win twice then?

George H.W. Bush. Robert J. Dole.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link

it's all about who is most vigorous, while still retaining credibility that they know what they're doing

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

In that case, it's too bad Bush can't run again.

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

this is exactly the type of thinking that got us john kerry.

and republicans have credit card bills, too.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

the idea that biden - still less lieberman - can pick up whatever of the "clinton vote" that went to 43 seems demented to me

both of them are way more beltway-insider names than they are "outsider-running-against-the-system" names

clinton won (first time) bcz of perot also

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

no, it's exactly the opposite of the thinking that got us John Kerry. have you ever seen a sleepier candidate?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

ie clinton was a system-glitch president in some ways (tho so wz 43)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Kerry was picked on resume, rather than personal characteristics (where Biden easily outweighs him).

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

he is ESPECIALLY bad & shameless wr2 the credit card industry.

right, because he is the Senator from Delaware. when he is President, he won't be from Delaware anymore.

also, is there some way that this is equivalent to being especially bad & shameless wrt EVERY industry (tho the drug companies especially, in Frist's case)?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

gabb, if yer posts are typical of what other democratic apparatchiki are thinking then the party is good and fucked. and the rest of us better get used to saying "president jeb bush."

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

why? who do you think is better?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't think Clinton was that much of a system glitch winner as you say. It was a veritable electoral college landslide both times.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

at this stage in the 1992 election wasn't biden considered a way sweeter candidate than clinton? when the dems began their run-off against each other, clinton was an outsider and low in the field

perot was the glitch - a third-party contender bcz he was RICHER THAN CROESUS he holed bush's vote then collapsed himself: that's a pretty rare circumstance; i don't believe clinton wd have smashed through bush's defences on his own

clinton second time was merely a successful amd popular incumbent, so not a glitch winner then, no

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

if there'd been a significant perot-style third-party candidate robbing bush43 from the libertarian right last year, kerry could have won

(i somewhat doubt he would, given what a fuck-awful show he put on)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

"at this stage in the 1992 election" = 1989 i guess!

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

exit polling showed that Clinton would have won 92 without Perot

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

And that Kerry won.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Perot voters were split between Bush and Clinton as second-choice and voted strongly Democrat down-ballot. Perot 'stealing' the election for Clinton is pretty much a myth.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 June 2005 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link

And that Kerry won.

the exit polls in 92 matched the results. and maybe Kerry did win.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 23:32 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry my post abt kerry obscured the point i wz makin abt perot's role in transforming the dynamic in mid-92 (which exit polls say nothing abt): i wasn't saying perot ended up splitting the republican vote (which i kinda WAS saying might have happened last year, which wz a difft kind of battle in a very difft situation)

"difft kind of battle in a very difft situation" is actually the general point i am makin: biden seems to me the poster-boy of "if things play out the way they did last time, it's OUR TURN"

mark s (mark s), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:09 (fourteen years ago) link

but whatever it's 3 o'clock in the morning and 91° here so my um "analytical skills" are sharply cut w.the perverse boredom of bein unable to get to sleep

mark s (mark s), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link

guys, 2008 is faaaaaaaaaaaaaar away in policital time.

Bush could be assassinated by then.

Did many know who the hell Clinton was outside Arkansas before the 1992 election?

Let Biden try. I'm voting for the best guy.. if McCain runs and wins the nomination for the Repubs and someone like Biden or Lieberman wins the Dem nomination, I'm considering McCain..(and i stress "considering")

IF that happens, so much for what a Dem or Repub means.

donut e-goo (donut), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe his post-presidency Patterson novel can tell the whole story of those wild days with Corn Pop.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Saturday, 14 September 2019 22:36 (two months ago) link

Sounds like he needs Pelecanos

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Sunday, 15 September 2019 03:37 (two months ago) link

Corn Pop, Earl Warren, and Me.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 15 September 2019 03:48 (two months ago) link

Just watched Corn pop thing now I can die happy.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 September 2019 18:55 (two months ago) link

And here I thought "corn pop" referred to stuff like Bobby Goldsboro singing "Honey" or J. Frank Wilson and the Cavaliers singing "Last Kiss".

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 15 September 2019 19:02 (two months ago) link

Daniel Dale and others have confirmed the Corn Pop story, making it less fun to joke about

Simon H., Sunday, 15 September 2019 21:50 (two months ago) link

the polling's the polling but i swear the only people who want joe biden for president are on television

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Sunday, 15 September 2019 22:11 (two months ago) link

If anything it sounds like Biden is downgrading his (genial, non-virulent) racism in telling the story more recently, calling CornPop “Esther Williams” instead of using swear words & making fun of his conk

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Sunday, 15 September 2019 22:33 (two months ago) link

has anybody itt ever been polled???

flappy bird, Monday, 16 September 2019 18:29 (two months ago) link

I’m the one who does the polling

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 16 September 2019 18:31 (two months ago) link

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wMEq1mGpP5A/hqdefault.jpg

difficult listening hour, Monday, 16 September 2019 19:19 (two months ago) link

The only time I've answered the phone and taken a poll turned out to be a ridiculous local political push poll

I'm guessing I'm one of those unheard Iowans who keeps not picking up, leading to grandmas who like Joe Biden being the primary polling group

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 16 September 2019 19:45 (two months ago) link

they adjust hard for stuff like that

I remember during the '16 cycle there was one poll that was really high on Trump b/c there was one 19 year old black guy in the sample who planned to vote Trump and their algorithm weighted him like 10,000x anyone else

frogbs, Monday, 16 September 2019 19:49 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

as in “look up, children, it’s a drone” https://t.co/Qri9RXMjUu

— Jeremy McLellan (@JeremyMcLellan) October 1, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:27 (one month ago) link

biden’s obama posturing is hilarious

Non stop chantar (crüt), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:40 (one month ago) link

Former Vice President Joe Biden on Wednesday for the first time called for President Donald Trump’s impeachment. “To preserve our Constitution, our democracy, our basic integrity, he should be impeached,” Biden said of the President, speaking at a town hall in New Hampshire. “He’s shooting holes in the Constitution,” Biden said. “And we cannot let him get away with it.”

Doesn't he have a Second Amendment right to shoot holes in it?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 18:43 (one month ago) link

Well, I must say that if a dickhead like Joe Biden wants to remove Trump from office, then it must be a bad idea, amirite?

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 18:45 (one month ago) link

here it is, the unsteady grandpa brawl we've yearned for

Thanks for watching. Stop stonewalling the Congress. Honor your oath. Respect the Constitution.

And speaking of taxpayers, I’ve released 21 years of my tax returns. You? https://t.co/CrqOQG8YXb

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) October 9, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 18:49 (one month ago) link

they can compare bms

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 19:37 (one month ago) link

uncle joe displaying flawless judgement yet again

https://i.redd.it/41ulbaz7l8s31.jpg

lol kinda corrupt

Bloomberg reports:

Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, is stepping down from the board of a Chinese-backed private equity company, according to a statement given to Bloomberg.
The younger Biden, whose business interests in Ukraine are at the center of Donald Trump’s impeachment scandal, also promises to “forego all foreign work” if his dad is elected president in 2020.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 October 2019 14:05 (one month ago) link

uncle joe displaying flawless judgement yet again

four years ago he was a callow lad of 72 in a go-nowhere job, please let's not hold childish pranks from his youth against him

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Sunday, 13 October 2019 19:19 (one month ago) link

Biden is def not going anywhere soon barring a stroke or whatnot

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 17:49 (one month ago) link

Let’s put this in perspective: if you eliminate every single solitary soldier, tank, satellite, nuclear weapon, eliminate the Pentagon and it would only pay for 4 months of Medicare for All. 4 months.

Where do the other 8 months come from? Your paycheck. #DemDebate

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) October 16, 2019

is this supposed to be pro- or anti-M4A

frogbs, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 18:30 (one month ago) link

Sounds great

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 18:30 (one month ago) link

is Biden even advocating FOR anything other than, idk, incremental progress? all I ever see or hear is him shitting on everyone else's plans.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 18:35 (one month ago) link

truly an inspiring vision for these times.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 18:35 (one month ago) link

We are The United States of America and we can do anything we set our minds to, except create a rational system to provide health care to everyone who needs it.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 18:39 (one month ago) link

He is advocating for teaching black people to use record players at night so that their children’s vocabulary is no longer poor as he believes it is.

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 18:40 (one month ago) link

last time I checked we didn't to have sell our own modest military industrial complex on e-bay to fund the NHS, the main problem is UK equivalents of cunts like Biden under-funding it because they hate its very existence.

calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 18:45 (one month ago) link

this is reminding me that I need to see if the Delaney bus is still in town. The slogan on the side is amazingly non boat-rocking:”Real Solutions, not Impossible Promises”

truly the “things are mostly ok” guy

mh, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:03 (one month ago) link

it's basically his version of Hillary's "no promises, we've had enough of that"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:08 (one month ago) link

The USA was founded upon the proposition that all men were created equal... and that's a problem we know how to fix.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:20 (one month ago) link

By Biden's tweet numbers, single payer would cost 2,1 trillion a year which is really nothing terrible for the US, pretty affordable even.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:23 (one month ago) link

trillions though, with a "t"! (this is the argument, far as I can tell)

maffew12, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:24 (one month ago) link

60$ per american per year for coverage, wowee.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:27 (one month ago) link

Biden, the President for Loss Aversion.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:29 (one month ago) link

6k per person I think

brownie, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:48 (one month ago) link

Yeah I’m way off haha. Still there’s enough money in the US to have both a fully funded US defense and single payer.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:58 (one month ago) link

6k is what my premium is per year (I pay half, company pays half)

brownie, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 20:21 (one month ago) link

my family (2 + kid) is 16k

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:27 (one month ago) link

also it doesn't have to be 6k per person if RICH PPL WERE TAXED AT REASONABLE RATES

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:29 (one month ago) link

You prob have deductibles and co-pays too. So out-of-pocket healthcare costs are higher if you, yanno, actually use healthcare services at any point.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:35 (one month ago) link

That $6K per capita figure is predicated on simply dividing the whole M4A program cost by the population of the USA, which flat rate (as ums helpfully points out) is not how the tax burden would be distributed. As it now stands, there are over 40,000,000 uninsured people and the cost of health care is still about 18% of USA GDP. For comparison, France and Germany spend about 11.5% of their GDP on universal health care.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:45 (one month ago) link

hey Joe your dipshit son made $50k A MONTH to do -- and let's be really real here -- fuck all. maybe he can pay for it.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 22:06 (one month ago) link

Healthcare would also contribute greatly to productivity and provide lots of new jobs

plax (ico), Monday, 21 October 2019 07:47 (four weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

ffs

At a DC fundraiser, Biden again slammed Warren for saying he should be in the GOP primary due to M4A criticism. "God love her. That's not the way you get things done, man." Instead GOP pols will have "epiphany" once Trump leaves, he said, per pool report.

— Liz Goodwin (@lizcgoodwin) November 6, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:03 (two weeks ago) link

the 'epiphany' will be that a Democrat won so they are required to halt all forward progress on any bill of any descrption so as to deprive Democrats of 'wins'

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:07 (two weeks ago) link

yup

it's weird how his GOP buddies in the Senate are clamoring to completely and extra-legally fuck him and yet he still thinks "oh sure, they'll come around"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:10 (two weeks ago) link


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