Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

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Biden says he intends to run for president

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

in case anyone is curious about what would make vote 3d party -- or not at all -- for president, it is this. and i am saying this as someone who would vote for lieberman if the republican was much worse. everytime you use yer credit cards, you pay for this assclown's campaign.

that said, i anticipate that he won't even come close to winning the nomination.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link

i like plagirizin' joe!

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link

you may sing a different tune if you ever have to consider bankruptcy ... and find that you can't do that b/c of sen. mastercard.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

http://media.rapnewsdirect.com/CDCovers/Joe_Budden/Joe_Budden/t.300.default.jpg

Hugh Jarmes (jaxon), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

he wasn't the only senator to vote for that bill, ya know.

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link

he's the only one who voted for it who has announced that he's running for president. and he is ESPECIALLY bad & shameless wr2 the credit card industry.

everyone has their lines that cannot be crossed. and this is mine.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link

He is deluded by his standing in the Senate. His standing in the country is 'meh'.

Aimless (Aimless), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

name an office holding democrat with a higher national profile on foreign affairs or the war on terrorism

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Have any Republicanz announced other than Frist?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

The credit card bizness is something I need to get into. I'd name my card like, UserioCard.

Biden's a tool, but promoting Lieberman ahead of him seems so so wrong. He pushes all my buttons, maybe it's a style thing.

Is Frist's running mate Terry Schiavo, I heard he just pronounced her alive and well.

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not a huge fan of Biden, but Lieberman is much worse (esp. since insurance industry and credit industry cancel each other out by and large.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

oh don't get me wrong -- i don't like lieberman very much, either. and now that i think about it, maybe lieberman IS worse -- at least biden isn't a self-righteous bluenose.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

both joes are treacherous, back-stabbing wusses and neither one is who i would pick to lead the democratic party.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link

No disagreement there.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, but come 2008 you'll line up to vote for either of them if you have to. The Democrats know they've got you by the short and curlies.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh I'd vote for either them over anyone the Republicans have put up since oh maybe Eisenhower, but that's not saying a hell of a lot.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean technically I've already voted for a Lieberman ticket.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link

well, the thing to do is make sure that neither joementum GETS to be the nominee. and neither one is likely to, so what i'm saying is hot air i guess.

i'm tempted to answer milo by saying "not this time," but i know myself better than that -- still, if either biden or lieberman is the man on 11/2008 then i am going into the voting booth w/ a HAZMAT suit (if i bother to show up at all).

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link

blount otm. also, name a national democrat with a greater toughness/competence (i.e. will keep you safe) aura

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Clark?

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

The guy literaly doesn't blink, who's tougher than that?

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Now you're talking.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha, so he passes the Ross Perot test, then?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link

the quality blount and gabbneb allude to = "most likely democrat to be voted for by republican-voting voters if all actual real republican candidates for some reason declined to stand"

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, how did Clinton win twice then?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

by being black

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

mark s - there are a lot of people who vote for Republicans who *aren't* Republicans. and as for the qualities blount and I allude to, name a Republican prospect (other than McCain or Cheney, who I think we'd both concede) who has more of them than Biden.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, how did Clinton win twice then?

George H.W. Bush. Robert J. Dole.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link

it's all about who is most vigorous, while still retaining credibility that they know what they're doing

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

In that case, it's too bad Bush can't run again.

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link

this is exactly the type of thinking that got us john kerry.

and republicans have credit card bills, too.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link

the idea that biden - still less lieberman - can pick up whatever of the "clinton vote" that went to 43 seems demented to me

both of them are way more beltway-insider names than they are "outsider-running-against-the-system" names

clinton won (first time) bcz of perot also

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link

no, it's exactly the opposite of the thinking that got us John Kerry. have you ever seen a sleepier candidate?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link

ie clinton was a system-glitch president in some ways (tho so wz 43)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Kerry was picked on resume, rather than personal characteristics (where Biden easily outweighs him).

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link

he is ESPECIALLY bad & shameless wr2 the credit card industry.

right, because he is the Senator from Delaware. when he is President, he won't be from Delaware anymore.

also, is there some way that this is equivalent to being especially bad & shameless wrt EVERY industry (tho the drug companies especially, in Frist's case)?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link

gabb, if yer posts are typical of what other democratic apparatchiki are thinking then the party is good and fucked. and the rest of us better get used to saying "president jeb bush."

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link

why? who do you think is better?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think Clinton was that much of a system glitch winner as you say. It was a veritable electoral college landslide both times.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link

at this stage in the 1992 election wasn't biden considered a way sweeter candidate than clinton? when the dems began their run-off against each other, clinton was an outsider and low in the field

perot was the glitch - a third-party contender bcz he was RICHER THAN CROESUS he holed bush's vote then collapsed himself: that's a pretty rare circumstance; i don't believe clinton wd have smashed through bush's defences on his own

clinton second time was merely a successful amd popular incumbent, so not a glitch winner then, no

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link

if there'd been a significant perot-style third-party candidate robbing bush43 from the libertarian right last year, kerry could have won

(i somewhat doubt he would, given what a fuck-awful show he put on)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link

"at this stage in the 1992 election" = 1989 i guess!

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link

exit polling showed that Clinton would have won 92 without Perot

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link

And that Kerry won.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Perot voters were split between Bush and Clinton as second-choice and voted strongly Democrat down-ballot. Perot 'stealing' the election for Clinton is pretty much a myth.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 June 2005 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link

And that Kerry won.

the exit polls in 92 matched the results. and maybe Kerry did win.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry my post abt kerry obscured the point i wz makin abt perot's role in transforming the dynamic in mid-92 (which exit polls say nothing abt): i wasn't saying perot ended up splitting the republican vote (which i kinda WAS saying might have happened last year, which wz a difft kind of battle in a very difft situation)

"difft kind of battle in a very difft situation" is actually the general point i am makin: biden seems to me the poster-boy of "if things play out the way they did last time, it's OUR TURN"

mark s (mark s), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:09 (fifteen years ago) link

but whatever it's 3 o'clock in the morning and 91° here so my um "analytical skills" are sharply cut w.the perverse boredom of bein unable to get to sleep

mark s (mark s), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:11 (fifteen years ago) link

guys, 2008 is faaaaaaaaaaaaaar away in policital time.

Bush could be assassinated by then.

Did many know who the hell Clinton was outside Arkansas before the 1992 election?

Let Biden try. I'm voting for the best guy.. if McCain runs and wins the nomination for the Repubs and someone like Biden or Lieberman wins the Dem nomination, I'm considering McCain..(and i stress "considering")

IF that happens, so much for what a Dem or Repub means.

donut e-goo (donut), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:35 (fifteen years ago) link

By a couple inches

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 2 July 2020 00:17 (one week ago) link

Trump just wants the Russians to put bounties on our troops without consequences, and help him steal another election.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 2 July 2020 00:18 (one week ago) link

castro wanted the soviets to bomb the us during the cuban missile crisis which is worse than anything trump's even been accused of

trump is fine with a million uighurs in concentration camps

world leaders, whatcha gonna do

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 2 July 2020 00:57 (one week ago) link

We were actively trying to have Castro killed, hard to fathom why he might have considered us an enemy.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 2 July 2020 01:01 (one week ago) link

are we having this argument?

Both things are true. And for the most part Cubans have had nothing but dictators and American rubber stampers for a century.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2020 01:19 (one week ago) link

I'm just responding to the "he wanted the Russians to bomb us" bit, which is pretty ridiculous. I can't believe the island nation we were terrorizing wanted their biggest ally to defend them, the horror the horror.

Maybe all this Cold War shit is just a version of Michael Jordan on shoe buyers - liberals buy defense stocks too.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 2 July 2020 01:29 (one week ago) link

#4: when he died, JFK was using socialist journalists to negotiate a secret peace with Fidel Castro

— Dead Astronaut (@corpseinorbit) August 13, 2017



supposing this tidbit from "JFK and the Unspeakable" is accurate, would that make JFK worse than Trump

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 02:08 (one week ago) link

Both pillheads, both sex criminals, both have funny accents... maybe the JFK Jr Q-Anon conspiracy is true

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 2 July 2020 02:18 (one week ago) link

nepotistic
mob-tied
dying in Texas

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 2 July 2020 02:21 (one week ago) link

back, and to the left

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 2 July 2020 02:22 (one week ago) link

devastating good looks

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 02:22 (one week ago) link

how's your mousse

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2020 02:25 (one week ago) link

Donnie died a natural death
He caught a nasty virus

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 2 July 2020 02:31 (one week ago) link

I don't mind the sun sometimes...

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 2 July 2020 02:31 (one week ago) link

lads

brownie, Thursday, 2 July 2020 02:41 (one week ago) link

starting a nuclear war is bad, i know this is a boring centrist opinion

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 03:52 (one week ago) link

Cubans have had nothing but dictators and American rubber stampers for a century.

And before that they were part of the forward-thinking and ever-so-progressive rump of the Spanish Empire. They just can't seem to win in the sweepstakes to see whose boot heel they will live under.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 2 July 2020 03:56 (one week ago) link

fwiw I would way rather be a citizen of Cuba than the USA especially at....this particular time lol

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 03:59 (one week ago) link

I'd rather live in the Earth's core rn

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 July 2020 04:05 (one week ago) link

unlike the majority of ilxors I actually enjoy being alive

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 04:18 (one week ago) link

Fucked up

all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 2 July 2020 04:41 (one week ago) link

I was enjoying being alive as recently as March

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 July 2020 05:20 (one week ago) link

starting a nuclear war is bad, i know this is a boring centrist opinion

got bad news for you about which country has used them

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 2 July 2020 08:16 (one week ago) link

starting a nuclear war is bad, i know this is a boring centrist opinion

try pitching this to some UK centrists, you’d be surprised

That's true.

In the UK you have to sound keen on starting a nuclear war to be taken seriously as a politician.

the pinefox, Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:57 (one week ago) link

Centrists in both US and UK love to bomb weddings in far away countries. Boring it ain't.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:35 (one week ago) link

I’ll read my daily briefings.

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) July 1, 2020

Biden reading number of evictions going up month by month and nodding away.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:36 (one week ago) link

joe biden 2020: i won't throw up in your yard

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:49 (one week ago) link

I like this guy, Joe Biden, more and more

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 01:58 (one week ago) link

Biden emerges from a contested Democratic primary with no serious threat on his left flank, according to Times/Siena polling in the battlegrounds.
Sanders supporters back him 87-4
Warren supporters back him 96-0 https://t.co/TrJFx5ue0r

— Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) July 8, 2020

Mordy, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 14:06 (one week ago) link

like in the way one would support nasal cavity swabbing

though I guess it doesn't matter

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 14:13 (one week ago) link

Despite our worst fears, the ILX thread "Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, Delaware), to Run for President", on the world-famous website, "I Love Everything", did not in fact undermine support for Biden.

Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 15:17 (one week ago) link

The 96% of Warren supporters backing Biden were still wrong, however.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 15:23 (one week ago) link

On MSNBC, @BernieSanders says his task forces with @JoeBiden made an "honest effort to come up with a compromise" on the issues and that, "if implemented, will make Biden the most progressive president since FDR."

— Adam Kelsey (@adamkelsey) July 9, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 9 July 2020 01:19 (six days ago) link

WPA part 2

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 July 2020 01:21 (six days ago) link

implemented if true

j., Thursday, 9 July 2020 01:23 (six days ago) link

This is just bait for the @AdamSerwer thesis. They have no clue how to run against this guy. https://t.co/yQJFzrd2fE

— Brian Wasik (@BrianRWasik) July 9, 2020

lol

j., Thursday, 9 July 2020 03:43 (six days ago) link

what in the hell is that about

j., Thursday, 9 July 2020 03:44 (six days ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/09/us/politics/biden-buy-american.html

he’s bringing better back

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 July 2020 12:12 (five days ago) link

A look at the grifters who make up Biden’s foreign policy team, by @mideastXmidwest https://t.co/OogOBb1U57

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) July 11, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:25 (yesterday) link

The 100% clean electricity by 2035 standard that Biden is proposing is something promoted by @JayInslee and also adopted by @ewarren. https://t.co/QBesfpli5D

— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) July 14, 2020

Mordy, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:38 (yesterday) link

discussed on the main thread

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:40 (yesterday) link

what's the main thread

Mordy, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:53 (yesterday) link

#onethread

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:59 (yesterday) link

Thanks for that article on Biden's fp team, Morbz

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 02:04 (fifteen hours ago) link

we can FP Biden now?

bat ain't Thad (sic), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 03:19 (fourteen hours ago) link

yeah, but he has a team that litigates each FP, hereby rendering them inert

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 03:21 (fourteen hours ago) link


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