Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

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Biden says he intends to run for president

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

in case anyone is curious about what would make vote 3d party -- or not at all -- for president, it is this. and i am saying this as someone who would vote for lieberman if the republican was much worse. everytime you use yer credit cards, you pay for this assclown's campaign.

that said, i anticipate that he won't even come close to winning the nomination.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i like plagirizin' joe!

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

you may sing a different tune if you ever have to consider bankruptcy ... and find that you can't do that b/c of sen. mastercard.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

http://media.rapnewsdirect.com/CDCovers/Joe_Budden/Joe_Budden/t.300.default.jpg

Hugh Jarmes (jaxon), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

he wasn't the only senator to vote for that bill, ya know.

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

he's the only one who voted for it who has announced that he's running for president. and he is ESPECIALLY bad & shameless wr2 the credit card industry.

everyone has their lines that cannot be crossed. and this is mine.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

He is deluded by his standing in the Senate. His standing in the country is 'meh'.

Aimless (Aimless), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

name an office holding democrat with a higher national profile on foreign affairs or the war on terrorism

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Have any Republicanz announced other than Frist?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

The credit card bizness is something I need to get into. I'd name my card like, UserioCard.

Biden's a tool, but promoting Lieberman ahead of him seems so so wrong. He pushes all my buttons, maybe it's a style thing.

Is Frist's running mate Terry Schiavo, I heard he just pronounced her alive and well.

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not a huge fan of Biden, but Lieberman is much worse (esp. since insurance industry and credit industry cancel each other out by and large.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link

oh don't get me wrong -- i don't like lieberman very much, either. and now that i think about it, maybe lieberman IS worse -- at least biden isn't a self-righteous bluenose.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

both joes are treacherous, back-stabbing wusses and neither one is who i would pick to lead the democratic party.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

No disagreement there.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, but come 2008 you'll line up to vote for either of them if you have to. The Democrats know they've got you by the short and curlies.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh I'd vote for either them over anyone the Republicans have put up since oh maybe Eisenhower, but that's not saying a hell of a lot.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean technically I've already voted for a Lieberman ticket.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

well, the thing to do is make sure that neither joementum GETS to be the nominee. and neither one is likely to, so what i'm saying is hot air i guess.

i'm tempted to answer milo by saying "not this time," but i know myself better than that -- still, if either biden or lieberman is the man on 11/2008 then i am going into the voting booth w/ a HAZMAT suit (if i bother to show up at all).

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

blount otm. also, name a national democrat with a greater toughness/competence (i.e. will keep you safe) aura

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Clark?

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

The guy literaly doesn't blink, who's tougher than that?

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Now you're talking.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha, so he passes the Ross Perot test, then?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

the quality blount and gabbneb allude to = "most likely democrat to be voted for by republican-voting voters if all actual real republican candidates for some reason declined to stand"

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, how did Clinton win twice then?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link

by being black

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

mark s - there are a lot of people who vote for Republicans who *aren't* Republicans. and as for the qualities blount and I allude to, name a Republican prospect (other than McCain or Cheney, who I think we'd both concede) who has more of them than Biden.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, how did Clinton win twice then?

George H.W. Bush. Robert J. Dole.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link

it's all about who is most vigorous, while still retaining credibility that they know what they're doing

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

In that case, it's too bad Bush can't run again.

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

this is exactly the type of thinking that got us john kerry.

and republicans have credit card bills, too.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

the idea that biden - still less lieberman - can pick up whatever of the "clinton vote" that went to 43 seems demented to me

both of them are way more beltway-insider names than they are "outsider-running-against-the-system" names

clinton won (first time) bcz of perot also

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

no, it's exactly the opposite of the thinking that got us John Kerry. have you ever seen a sleepier candidate?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

ie clinton was a system-glitch president in some ways (tho so wz 43)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Kerry was picked on resume, rather than personal characteristics (where Biden easily outweighs him).

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

he is ESPECIALLY bad & shameless wr2 the credit card industry.

right, because he is the Senator from Delaware. when he is President, he won't be from Delaware anymore.

also, is there some way that this is equivalent to being especially bad & shameless wrt EVERY industry (tho the drug companies especially, in Frist's case)?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

gabb, if yer posts are typical of what other democratic apparatchiki are thinking then the party is good and fucked. and the rest of us better get used to saying "president jeb bush."

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

why? who do you think is better?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't think Clinton was that much of a system glitch winner as you say. It was a veritable electoral college landslide both times.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

at this stage in the 1992 election wasn't biden considered a way sweeter candidate than clinton? when the dems began their run-off against each other, clinton was an outsider and low in the field

perot was the glitch - a third-party contender bcz he was RICHER THAN CROESUS he holed bush's vote then collapsed himself: that's a pretty rare circumstance; i don't believe clinton wd have smashed through bush's defences on his own

clinton second time was merely a successful amd popular incumbent, so not a glitch winner then, no

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

if there'd been a significant perot-style third-party candidate robbing bush43 from the libertarian right last year, kerry could have won

(i somewhat doubt he would, given what a fuck-awful show he put on)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

"at this stage in the 1992 election" = 1989 i guess!

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

exit polling showed that Clinton would have won 92 without Perot

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

And that Kerry won.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Perot voters were split between Bush and Clinton as second-choice and voted strongly Democrat down-ballot. Perot 'stealing' the election for Clinton is pretty much a myth.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 June 2005 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link

And that Kerry won.

the exit polls in 92 matched the results. and maybe Kerry did win.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 June 2005 23:32 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry my post abt kerry obscured the point i wz makin abt perot's role in transforming the dynamic in mid-92 (which exit polls say nothing abt): i wasn't saying perot ended up splitting the republican vote (which i kinda WAS saying might have happened last year, which wz a difft kind of battle in a very difft situation)

"difft kind of battle in a very difft situation" is actually the general point i am makin: biden seems to me the poster-boy of "if things play out the way they did last time, it's OUR TURN"

mark s (mark s), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:09 (fourteen years ago) link

but whatever it's 3 o'clock in the morning and 91° here so my um "analytical skills" are sharply cut w.the perverse boredom of bein unable to get to sleep

mark s (mark s), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link

guys, 2008 is faaaaaaaaaaaaaar away in policital time.

Bush could be assassinated by then.

Did many know who the hell Clinton was outside Arkansas before the 1992 election?

Let Biden try. I'm voting for the best guy.. if McCain runs and wins the nomination for the Repubs and someone like Biden or Lieberman wins the Dem nomination, I'm considering McCain..(and i stress "considering")

IF that happens, so much for what a Dem or Repub means.

donut e-goo (donut), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link

It's just a burst blood vessel - I used to look after this kid who had that happen all the time (was a compulsive cougher). Terrifying the first time, but no big deal.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:12 (two weeks ago) link

talk about bad optics tho

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:14 (two weeks ago) link

If it happened to bernie he'd be answering for it for weeks

Simon H., Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:15 (two weeks ago) link

No-one votes for the guy crying blood...

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:16 (two weeks ago) link

so he was on Colbert last night along with the Pixies

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:13 (two weeks ago) link

Colbert Questions Frank Black About Being a "Gaffe Machine"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:14 (two weeks ago) link

Your gaffe's got a little machine, etc

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:46 (two weeks ago) link

Sure no big deal, but remember Hillary’s fatal illness because she stumbled one time

omar little, Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:50 (two weeks ago) link

talk about bad optics tho

― don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, September 5, 2019 11:14 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think this was intentional, in which case A+ lol.

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 5 September 2019 18:00 (two weeks ago) link

.@Eyesgack of @sunrisemvmtChi asks: How can we expect @JoeBiden to hold fossil fuel executives accountable when he's going to a fundraiser hosted by one tomorrow?

If the climate crisis is serious to Joe, he should stop holding fundraisers w/ oil profiteers #NoFossilFuelMoney pic.twitter.com/Rfq0u3NITj

— Sunrise Movement 🌅 (@sunrisemvmt) September 5, 2019

there's a little coopadoop zinger bonus in the last 1/3 of a second of the clip

I am also Harl (Karl Malone), Saturday, 7 September 2019 21:25 (one week ago) link

A new fundraising pitch from the Biden campaign under West Wing actor @Richard_Schiff’s name: “Sadly, President Bartlett is just a TV character. But luckily, Joe Biden is real and he is running for president.” pic.twitter.com/DhaN0F7Eg8

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) September 8, 2019

I know the dirtbag left has run West Wing hatred into the ground, but maybe not far enough

Simon H., Sunday, 8 September 2019 01:15 (one week ago) link

what the fuckhead actor means by "President Bartlett" is Obama

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 8 September 2019 01:27 (one week ago) link

I saw maybe one episode of that show, but Biden seems closer to Sorkin's literary hero Atticus Finch: paternalistic, friends with segregationists, etc.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 8 September 2019 01:29 (one week ago) link

another revealing brainfart

Joe Biden calling Angela Merkel "Margaret Thatcher": pic.twitter.com/0uWBCggHHc

— Florian (@BetaODork) September 10, 2019

Simon H., Tuesday, 10 September 2019 04:39 (one week ago) link

1) is there a ceiling on the number of women Biden can think are Thatcher

2) wait if he starts calling Trump "Thatcher" and showing posters of their hairdos side-by-side maybe he'll win me over

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 07:20 (one week ago) link

the only way to stop a bad guy with dementia is a good guy with dementia

— [crying in spanish] (@SortaBad) September 10, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 09:24 (one week ago) link

From the comments to the above tweet:

The only way to stop a bad guy with dementia is with a good guy with dementia.

― A is for (Aimless), Friday, August 23, 2019 11:32 AM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 14:28 (one week ago) link

🤦🏻‍♀️ pic.twitter.com/0ernwQ3tKz

— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) September 11, 2019

I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 14:56 (one week ago) link

really hoping he brings this gem back soon

why has nobody told me about this before pic.twitter.com/UdHxm4ykb2

— jacob (@JacobRForster) September 13, 2019

Simon H., Friday, 13 September 2019 16:55 (six days ago) link

that is some great recall of verbatim dialogue

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Friday, 13 September 2019 17:10 (six days ago) link

Joe Biden looks like the kind of dude who goes fucking nuts when Sweet Caroline comes on at a wedding

— Tamara Yajia (@DancesWithTamis) September 13, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 September 2019 17:15 (six days ago) link

he will lose to trump

flappy bird, Friday, 13 September 2019 17:17 (six days ago) link

Corn Pop for VP

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 13 September 2019 17:18 (six days ago) link

xpost not if he comes to the debate with a chain wrapped around his arm

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 13 September 2019 17:40 (six days ago) link

https://theweek.com/articles/864766

flappy bird, Friday, 13 September 2019 18:00 (six days ago) link

I think it would be great if we just call him Record Player going forward

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 September 2019 18:03 (six days ago) link

(I mean I know you guys still use your record players, but the youngsters and I don't)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 September 2019 18:04 (six days ago) link

the youngsters play cassette tapes

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 13 September 2019 18:07 (six days ago) link

The anecdote about a black guy called corn pop who had a razor dates Biden accurately to the era of wax cylinders

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 September 2019 18:19 (six days ago) link

(DJ Khaled voice) another one

Biden To Immigrant From Guyana In South America, “I’ve Been To Ghana, I’ve Been All Through Africa” pic.twitter.com/JMCBTPCcdC

— Arthur Schwartz (@ArthurSchwartz) September 13, 2019

Simon H., Saturday, 14 September 2019 09:03 (five days ago) link

Him mentioning Ghana means it's just mishearing. Would have been more fun if he thought Guyana was in Africa. Though I'd guess most candidates probably think Guyana is in Africa. He probably thinks Guyana is in Africa. He really dodged a bullet there.

Frederik B, Saturday, 14 September 2019 10:08 (five days ago) link

Lol sure yeah...a mishearing. But I just hate the way Westerners keep going about the year off they spent back-packing somewhere in the global south like 30 years later and then just use it like this.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 September 2019 13:08 (five days ago) link

He even worked for a black man!

pomenitul, Saturday, 14 September 2019 13:13 (five days ago) link

Who is friends with him iirc.

pomenitul, Saturday, 14 September 2019 13:14 (five days ago) link

you mean Corn Pop?

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Saturday, 14 September 2019 15:56 (five days ago) link

Maybe his post-presidency Patterson novel can tell the whole story of those wild days with Corn Pop.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Saturday, 14 September 2019 22:36 (five days ago) link

Sounds like he needs Pelecanos

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Sunday, 15 September 2019 03:37 (four days ago) link

Corn Pop, Earl Warren, and Me.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 15 September 2019 03:48 (four days ago) link

Just watched Corn pop thing now I can die happy.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 September 2019 18:55 (four days ago) link

And here I thought "corn pop" referred to stuff like Bobby Goldsboro singing "Honey" or J. Frank Wilson and the Cavaliers singing "Last Kiss".

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 15 September 2019 19:02 (four days ago) link

Daniel Dale and others have confirmed the Corn Pop story, making it less fun to joke about

Simon H., Sunday, 15 September 2019 21:50 (four days ago) link

the polling's the polling but i swear the only people who want joe biden for president are on television

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Sunday, 15 September 2019 22:11 (four days ago) link

If anything it sounds like Biden is downgrading his (genial, non-virulent) racism in telling the story more recently, calling CornPop “Esther Williams” instead of using swear words & making fun of his conk

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Sunday, 15 September 2019 22:33 (four days ago) link

has anybody itt ever been polled???

flappy bird, Monday, 16 September 2019 18:29 (three days ago) link

I’m the one who does the polling

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 16 September 2019 18:31 (three days ago) link

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wMEq1mGpP5A/hqdefault.jpg

difficult listening hour, Monday, 16 September 2019 19:19 (three days ago) link

The only time I've answered the phone and taken a poll turned out to be a ridiculous local political push poll

I'm guessing I'm one of those unheard Iowans who keeps not picking up, leading to grandmas who like Joe Biden being the primary polling group

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 16 September 2019 19:45 (three days ago) link

they adjust hard for stuff like that

I remember during the '16 cycle there was one poll that was really high on Trump b/c there was one 19 year old black guy in the sample who planned to vote Trump and their algorithm weighted him like 10,000x anyone else

frogbs, Monday, 16 September 2019 19:49 (three days ago) link


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