The Locking of the Avril Thread

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I felt like that one was harmless enough, and pretty funny, and that if threads are gonna get locked for being stupid now then we oughta put the mods on salary, 'cause there are plenty of stupid threads.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 18 June 2004 01:40 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread has been locked by a moderator.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 18 June 2004 01:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Are you willing to pay? Dude!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 June 2004 01:44 (nineteen years ago) link

how can you tell when a thread is stupid or not stupid?

RJG (RJG), Friday, 18 June 2004 01:45 (nineteen years ago) link

oh well.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 01:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Well I donate when the time comes!

I don't know, I'm just sore 'cause I felt like that Calum thread was almost harmless fun, he was taking his ribbing fairly well (except for his predictable "oh my mood is dark now that the question of vivisection has been raised) (note to Calum: I'm vegetarian and dig deep into my pockets when it's time to fight animal cruelty, so don't assume that I don't care, 'cause I do, it's just that your manner makes people wish ill on animals, which is counterproductive) and it was almost healthy, y'know - I dunno, it seemed pretty random. I know that mods are allowed to random and that's cool. It's just that that thread seemed like a fair bit of fun.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 18 June 2004 01:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Well I donate when the time comes!

Aw, just teasin', sir. :-)

It's just that that thread seemed like a fair bit of fun.

In part this is why Dan and Tombot will be hashing out the standards more thoroughly here soon, partially so that way there's flexibility to deal with situations like this while at the same time making it clear what the basics are for posters and mods alike. However, in this case Andrew chose to lock it -- not something he does very often -- and as he is the machine maintainer and Server God both I defer to his judgment. If anything I would have locked it after the first post.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 June 2004 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm bummed because I didn't get to compare the photo of Calum to this one:

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Dan K was shakin' his booty at the 2ManyDJ's show the other month.

I wouldn't even have bothered reading that C-Man thread, except that I saw this thread so of course I then HAD to read the other one. Seemed OK to me. J0hn I think you're dead wrong about Avril - she's cute!

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 18 June 2004 01:58 (nineteen years ago) link

the difference between Dan K and Calum is that Dan K's funny.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 01:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I think you have calum mixed up with the other dude.

http://www.thehorrorpost.com/frontpage.htm click on calum corner.

hrm, Friday, 18 June 2004 01:59 (nineteen years ago) link

no shit? you're right, but hey this is even worse:

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I was wondering about all this big head shit

..., Friday, 18 June 2004 02:02 (nineteen years ago) link

he's still got a big head, bu it's really the nose that does it.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link

the Macchio comparisons do seem apposite.

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link

it looks like he's pressing a tracking device onto her back.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link

he's never been that close with a woman before.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I mean, I am not bangin' on Andrew - honest! But then again, I'm a windbag, and I always wanna talk about something for ages before actually taking action - & I also almost always, when somebody says "this is the worst thread ever" or somesuch, think: "why? 'cause it's a little out of control? That's ok: the UNIVERSE got born when things got a little out of control!" since obviously our eventual goal here is the formation of a new galaxy of which I am King

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I think he's just wiping off some snot.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:04 (nineteen years ago) link

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:04 (nineteen years ago) link

btw, that thread lock was quite wrong and I am still holding a grudge about a very unfairly deleted thread of mine from months ago--I meant to ask andrew to justify, then, but maybe he can, now.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link

P.S. Avril is so horribly ugly that I suspect she has hypno-beams in her eyeballs that cause large numbers of people to declare her attractive and purchase her sub-Shania new-country-in-teen-pop-clothing records

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link

the formation of a new galaxy of which I am King

FUCK YOU Darn1elle -- Dan and I have dibs on that.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:06 (nineteen years ago) link

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Good god, that's the most disturbing picture yet.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:08 (nineteen years ago) link

sub-Shania new-country-in-teen-pop-clothing records

Well, obviously, every new-country person is sub-Shania because Shania is a goddess. Avril is cute.

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Looks like David Hasselhoff.

Lo Boob Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Look, do we have to do this?

Andrew (enneff), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:10 (nineteen years ago) link

maybe you're a dickhead.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Look, do we have to do this?
No - of course not, and I'm being sincere: it's my understanding that the moderators reserve the right to lock at their discretion, and I trust all of you with that - this isn't an "oh my god, the fascists!" thread. I just really didn't get how come that deserved locking: the winding-up Calum was getting seemed unusually good-humored, and as I say he seemed to be taking it pretty well. I'm not fuming or angry or anything, just kinda puzzled, and as I say, I'm a windbag & it's in my disposition to wanna talk about stuff until I get it. Couple my longwindedness with my generally acknowledged brainlessness and you got this thread, which means no offense.

RJG Andrew is not a dickhead, can we not name-call pls

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:13 (nineteen years ago) link

it was in the interests of hilarity.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:15 (nineteen years ago) link

richard isn't there a thread elsewhere in need of some commas?

are 'friends' electricsound? (electricsound), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:15 (nineteen years ago) link

< /old jess>

are 'friends' electricsound? (electricsound), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:15 (nineteen years ago) link

interesting.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:15 (nineteen years ago) link

it was in the interests of hilarity

QED I am kinda slow

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:15 (nineteen years ago) link

YOU GUYS HAVE THE LOWER CASE MARKET CORNERED.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I say he seemed to be taking it pretty well

I idly note that it is his strategy to seem like this at times.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link

AVRIL WAS ADORABLE IN RED EYELINER ON SNL DAMN YOU DAMN YOU DAMN YOU.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:17 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread has been mocked by a Nederator.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:18 (nineteen years ago) link

this thread title should be made into a big budget action thriller with sean connery sean bean and sean carruthers

..., Friday, 18 June 2004 02:18 (nineteen years ago) link

SEANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:18 (nineteen years ago) link

and Ralph Macchio, he needs the work.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link

pope dan wants to recover the cross of st avril

..., Friday, 18 June 2004 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link

RALPHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

COUSIN LARRY!!!!!!!

http://www.bronsonpinchot.20m.com/images/psgrp_bl.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh my god.

Andrew (enneff), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:22 (nineteen years ago) link

http://members.ee.net/jtc/balloon.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:22 (nineteen years ago) link

this thread title should be made into a big budget action thriller with sean connery sean bean and sean carruthers

right the H.M.S. Avril Thread is like a luxury liner only Captain Waddell is insane and is steering it toward a terrible vortex which will transport everybody to a Stone Roses concert and everybody on board is, like, me, an' shit, and so we all really hate the Stone Roses except for "Fool's Gold" which is obviously genius, but we know from the closed-circuit that they already done played that one and sure an' nobody wants to hear anything else by those guys so we're all storming the captain's cabin, and we can hear the second-tier britpop bands blaring through his boombox and it's makin' us crazy, but somehow we get in, but the shit-waves from the bad music cause the gears to gum shut and now we're gonna see the Stone Roses whether we like it or not, omg The Locking of the Avril Thread coming this summer to a wall in a hangar someplace during an acidhouse rave near you

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Now sing that to "Sloop John B" -- or "Sloop John D" if you like.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:23 (nineteen years ago) link

[also, my professor Robert Mezey, a terrific poet, drummed into my brain the essential goodness of rhymes that glisten like crystals, and so even when I'm writing doggerel I'm [stupidly] demanding of myself & if I start to play with you guys on this front, I will wind up revising two-line posts for, like, hours, which would be kinda pathetic]

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 21 June 2004 01:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Aha, I see your point, Darn1elle
Why blight the world with doggerel?

the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 21 June 2004 01:33 (nineteen years ago) link

It does wrong by my father on Father's day, I feel,
if I do not point out that my name is pronounced "dar-kneel."

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 21 June 2004 01:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Dar-kneel it is, and if you please
Accept my sincere apologies.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 21 June 2004 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link

It's father's day? I've had no call!
Seems no-one appreciates my role at all!

But then again, I am a cad
For I, too, have not called my dad.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 21 June 2004 01:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I recall an early Shakespeare play
That rhymed and rattled just this way;

I'm sure you are all erudite
And can the play in question cite?

the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 21 June 2004 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread has taken a turn for the weird.

Skottie, Monday, 21 June 2004 02:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Dude, it rules!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 June 2004 02:44 (nineteen years ago) link

only because you say so, Ned!

Skottie, Monday, 21 June 2004 03:19 (nineteen years ago) link

because, you know...

Skottie, Monday, 21 June 2004 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link

ILX might as well lay down and die or just delete itself leaving only this fucking thread under ILXor.com.


It's all here! omgwtf xpost even the crazy html crap of style/substance thread

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 21 June 2004 03:25 (nineteen years ago) link

seriously someone say BLURILLAZ or post the picture of gareth staring at the phone or something and we can lock this bitch

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 21 June 2004 03:29 (nineteen years ago) link

it's political correctness gone mad

are 'friends' electricsound? (electricsound), Monday, 21 June 2004 03:30 (nineteen years ago) link

wrong thread, electricsound?

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 21 June 2004 03:30 (nineteen years ago) link

it's correct madness gone political

omg, Monday, 21 June 2004 03:31 (nineteen years ago) link

hardly

(xpost)

are 'friends' electricsound? (electricsound), Monday, 21 June 2004 03:32 (nineteen years ago) link

$0.02: momus is conservative because his conception of art and his appreciation of beauty is (willfully?) narrow and (willfully?) solipsistic.

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 21 June 2004 03:32 (nineteen years ago) link

i thought you might have meant the michael moore one. but you're right.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 21 June 2004 03:33 (nineteen years ago) link

when i was taking a cig break at work friday (i now work in lower manhattan), i was approached by 2 lubavichers who thought i was jewish. i told them that i wasn't, and they politely bid me adieu.

does that count?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 21 June 2004 04:01 (nineteen years ago) link

You were not the Messiah.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 21 June 2004 04:02 (nineteen years ago) link

that i was smoking should've been the tip-off. i bet that the moshiach won't be a smoker.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 21 June 2004 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link

An old Jew once lost his snuffbox made of horn, on his way to the House of Study. He wailed: ‘Just as if the dreadful exile weren't enough, this must happen to me! Oh me, oh my, I've lost my snuffbox made of horn!' And then he came upon the sacred goat. The sacred goat was pacing the earth, and the tips of his black horns touched the stars. When he heard the old Jew lamenting, he leaned down to him, and said, ‘Cut a piece from my horns, whatever you need to make a new snuffbox.'

The old Jew did this, made a new snuffbox, and filled it with tobacco. Then he went to the House of Study and offered everyone a pinch. They snuffed and snuffed, and everyone who snuffed it cried: ‘Oh, what wonderful tobacco! It must be because of the box. Oh, what a wonderful box! Wherever did you get it?' So the old man told them about the good sacred goat. And then one after the other they went out on the street and looked for the sacred goat.

The sacred goat was pacing the earth and the tips of his black horns touched the stars. One after another the people went up to him and begged permission to cut off a bit of his horns. Time after time the sacred goat leaned down to grant the request. Box after box was made and filled with tobacco. The fame of the boxes spread far and wide. At every step he took, the sacred goat met someone who asked for a piece of his horns.

Now the sacred goat still paces the earth – but he has no horns.



the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 21 June 2004 04:09 (nineteen years ago) link

"See this is why I love ILE. Plato, Barthes, Breton, Seneca and Ducasse are invoked in the midst of a heated exchange about netiquette - all within about 20 posts."

OTM. I'm just sittin' back with popcorn, enjoying the show.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 21 June 2004 04:49 (nineteen years ago) link

The way I see it, there's a lot of brilliant writers here NOW DON'T GET SHY ITS TRUE and they simply need a pretext for pyrotechnics. Avril Lavigne will do fine. It's like when a bunch of physicists and chaos theorists get together for a series of hi-tech experiments to determine whether there's any validity to the butter side down rule.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 21 June 2004 04:52 (nineteen years ago) link

the music mole's simile is apt.
i wish i didn't write so crap

(Sorry about that lame-ass rhyme,
I have neither the creativity nor time
To conjure up something worthwhile
But at least it's more fun than turning dials!)

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 21 June 2004 05:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Here's my personal favourite. It reminds me of Erasmus Darwin:

Let me repeat, J0hn, I do think it's relevant;
All binaries compel us to privilege one element.
You say you weren't privileging 'roots' above 'becoming'
Then why did you say 'roots' without 'becoming' was 'just' something?

You wanted to have your cake and eat it too;
Eating without having wasn't good enough for you?

-- Momus

the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 21 June 2004 05:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I didn't read any of this crap, but man do i love raccoons!!

http://www.fisherycrisis.com/racoons.jpg

Bull from 'Night Court' (Adrian Langston), Monday, 21 June 2004 09:30 (nineteen years ago) link

the truth about momus' eye

http://www.loomcom.com/raccoons/gallery/jpegs/bite-face1.jpg

Bull from 'Night Court' (Adrian Langston), Monday, 21 June 2004 09:31 (nineteen years ago) link

they eat food with their tiny hands like people!!

http://www.loomcom.com/raccoons/gallery/jpegs/tea-party8.jpg

Bull from 'Night Court' (Adrian Langston), Monday, 21 June 2004 09:33 (nineteen years ago) link

they also wash it, which is why giving them soap is so much fun!

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 21 June 2004 10:16 (nineteen years ago) link

(fuck washing a racoon etc)

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 21 June 2004 10:24 (nineteen years ago) link

binaries of necessity privilege one element.
this is why we should reject them

J0hn, your position here is absurd
He who doesn't use binaries doesn't use words!

The difference between our positions is, dontchaknow
Mine is pragmatic, yours braggadocio

I reject binaries after I've ridden 'em
You use them daily, but then -- whoops -- you've hidden 'em!

Momus (Momus), Monday, 21 June 2004 10:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Momus, could it be your antics
Owe something to Tibetan tantrics?

the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 21 June 2004 10:57 (nineteen years ago) link

seriously someone say BLURILLAZ or post the picture of gareth staring at the phone or something and we can lock this bitch

the picture of gareth i wish i had,
here's the next best thing instead

http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/eb5f5b5_m40c466cd/bc/8cf0/__sr_/140f.jpg?phKht1ABPIz6nA8g

ken in new york as he pretends
to be gareth who would stand

on the road with pint in hand
with phone he can't comprehend

ken c (ken c), Monday, 21 June 2004 11:29 (nineteen years ago) link

M, I don't claim
not to use them myself:

I only assert
that your "use then discard" claim

is hogwash:
which it is.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 21 June 2004 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link

("why we should reject them":
well, we should! that we don't or can't as of yet

oughtn't reduce us
to models of partisanship

like your good
self.)

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 21 June 2004 11:37 (nineteen years ago) link

(as a final aside before we return
to the question you successfully derailed

us from, namely, your inexplicable
defense of Vice and its open,

demonstrated, asked-and-answered
racism:

"I use them and discard them" makes me wonder
if it's cool with you

for a person to vote Bush
as long as she isn't registered Republican.)

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 21 June 2004 11:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Is riding and rejecting binaries
Dualism - in nondual finery?

The reason being, if I say
I discard my theories every day
Could this harden into another lie
More dogma with which to live life by?

Its seems through words it can't be settled
Can a theory grasp the nettle?

the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 21 June 2004 11:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow. This is sure a lot more interesting than when threads get locked at the evangelical christian message board I used to hang out at!

Kevin Erickson, Wednesday, 30 June 2004 10:48 (nineteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
I still want that lasergator!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 31 January 2005 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
I forget, what did the raccoon have to do with anything?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

let's talk more about the 'mods on salary' concept.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

the deep poetry battle between darnlelle and momus would be awesome if they were both actually famous.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 25 September 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://blog.oregonlive.com/steveduin/2007/07/large_scan0001.jpg

roxymuzak, Saturday, 24 November 2007 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I am looking for the original Avril thread. I can't even remember what it was about! ...Avril?

roxymuzak, Saturday, 24 November 2007 21:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Snap! I never thought that one would be it.

roxymuzak, Saturday, 24 November 2007 22:03 (sixteen years ago) link


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