Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

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Lately, "veggies" has been bugging the shit out of me... too flip, too Australian sounding. Also, "At the end of the day..." is being heavily abused by politicos... a new catch-phrase with no meaning.

Now, a small cadre of philistines in my office has been using the word "outreach" as a NOUN... "Were you able to establish some outreach with the printers?" etc.

What language abuses have been rubbing you raw lately?

andy, Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

"TURN BACK YOU POXY FULE"

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

what?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

That seems like it'd be right up your alley, TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

My friends got into saying "P-word" as a jokingly PC way of saying "pussy" .. i.e. - "so-and-so is a p-word." I tried to explain that it's a real pussy move to be afraid of saying pussy and hypocritical of anyone then to call anyone else a p-word. I think it fell on deaf ears.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

my p hurts!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

If my dad wants to agree with something you've said, he says "This is true." It really, really gets me annoyed, for no other reason than overuse as far as I can think.

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

"Have a Cool Yule!" - I haven't actually heard this lately but because of the season I remembered this the other day and darkly mulled over its wankiness.

Chriddof (Chriddof), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

using "Cool Yule" seems like it should automatically warrant a knife in the face.

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link

My father met Cheech Marin while drunk and got his autograph. My father is not the autograph type, but kept it because it is a small bar napkin that says "BE COOL FOOL, CHEECH." A man of few words, that Cheech.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I cant stand it when I hear someone say 'impactful' is that even a word? Impact is not a property, its created.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm getting really pissed of with american interpretations of 'Liberal', 'Libertarian' and 'Conservative'

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I also get upset about "N-Word" as well. If you're using it in a critical context, people will understand that. If you're not, then you should have the conviction to let people hear it if you want to say it.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I hate "touch base" and "metrosexual"

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:55 (seventeen years ago) link

OH come on, let's touch bases.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, "metrosexual" is possible the lamest noun of the new millenia.

andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Or is it an adjective? I don't know.

andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

If my dad wants to agree with something you've said, he says "This is true." It really, really gets me annoyed, for no other reason than overuse as far as I can think.

-- caitlin (wpsal...) (webmail), December 23rd, 2003. (caitlin)


Oh yes, yes yes. I second that one. And the people who say it, say it over and over.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

But Ed, those words have different interpretations in almost every country in which they are used.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I blame the consolidation of global political power and the diminution of class mobility on people who write in the passive voice.

I also have a horror of people who write prolifically in all caps.

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:07 (seventeen years ago) link


"It must say something about ILX that this is the most repeated topic of all time..."

This is true.

But, this is a topic that should be dealt with routinely and harshly... the only way we can correct the language and suppress it's organic growth is by exposing and banning every new usage as it occurs... Isn't that what the French do?

andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Least favorite (mis)usage ever - "ON accident..." it's BY accident you fucking moron!!

Also: 'fridge,' girls who refer to each other as 'girl,' proactive...i'll be back when i think of more....

roger adultery, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I know, oops, but still it pisses me off.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:54 (seventeen years ago) link

The recurrence of this topic is always accompanied by the recurrence of complaint about its recurrence.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Space. All this crap about needing space. Fuck off, then.

Roderick the Visigoth. (Jake Proudlock), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:19 (seventeen years ago) link

All girls must now refer to one another as "guy"

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:30 (seventeen years ago) link

ok?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Using "Sexy" in a business environment that has nothing to do with sex. As in "this is a very sexy proposal for our company". Well, I guess, if ripping people off is what turns you on.

BrianB (BrianB), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 05:26 (seventeen years ago) link

'exact same'.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

"bird" instead of "girl" or "woman". AAAAAARGH.

Melly E (Melly E), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

When people call each other 'babe' and the completely inappropriate use of the word 'literally'. Also can I add at this point, even if it may not be entirely relevant, the unjustifiable grammatical error in Rachael Stevens' song 'Sweet Dreams My LA Ex' : "accuse me of things I never done." And I've listened hard for "I've never done" to try and give her the benefit of the doubt but she doesn't say it.

barbara wintergreen, Monday, 29 December 2003 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

"Begging the question" and "chomping at the bit." The first is almost always used incorrectly, and the second should be "champing," Goddamn it.

Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Monday, 29 December 2003 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

or "bits"

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 29 December 2003 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

'any way shape or form'. Most heard in full-media-glare denials of misdeeds. Used by dodgy sportsmen who have been 'coached' by their minders for the occasion. It immediately strips the first dozen layers of credibility from whatever statement is being made.

'poetic justice'. Used by the lazy to describe all 'justice' the speaker approves of, instead of a particular type. The adjective is rendered meaningless.

Agree re 'bird' for woman/girl, and lament its threatened return. Stinks of 'I'm being un-PC, where's my medal?'. Also the C-person uses it, which kinda ends the argument.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 29 December 2003 23:59 (seventeen years ago) link

optics

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

also photonic inplace of optic

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:10 (seventeen years ago) link

"the....(insert superlative)...in pop."

barbara wintergreen, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:19 (seventeen years ago) link

To return to the top of the thread, I still after 20 odd years gag on 'outreach' as a VERB....

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link

the mightily empty "i could care less" variant on being unable to do the same

ermes marana, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 01:47 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...
People who pronounce the word "presentation" as "PRE-sentation".

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:29 (fifteen years ago) link

since i was reading some VICIOUS anti- rachael ray sentiment last night and i'm still feelin' the love: "E.V.O.O. EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE OIL"

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:32 (fifteen years ago) link

"YUM-O"

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:33 (fifteen years ago) link

cf.

gear (gear), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Also: 'fridge,'

Wait, huh? Fridge is the thing you put food in, whats wrong with it?

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 18 August 2005 08:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Saying "it impacted on me" instead of "it had an impact on me"... well that's annoying enough but, just recently, I've heard people say "it impacted me" - which surely would only make sense if the speaker was a molar?

Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 09:10 (fifteen years ago) link

'fridge,'

I'm picturing him saying things such as "Would you like me to remove another beverage from the refrigerator for you, whilst we watch some association football?"

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:29 (fifteen years ago) link

bougie, instead of bourgeois. heard it four times last week.

naus (Robert T), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:38 (fifteen years ago) link

"Chav"

Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:39 (fifteen years ago) link

bourgie?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:42 (fifteen years ago) link

User of "here" here. I'd just like to say you are irrationally intollerant of a perfectly reasonable usage, Noel Emits.

Noel Emits, Monday, 7 June 2021 19:54 (two weeks ago) link

ppl using 'begs the question' because they think it's a fancy way of saying 'raises the question'

mookieproof, Monday, 7 June 2021 21:56 (two weeks ago) link

at this point, that is what it means

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 7 June 2021 22:12 (two weeks ago) link

NO IT ISN'T

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Monday, 7 June 2021 22:20 (two weeks ago) link

I'd guess that it is used correctly a tiny fraction of the time. The incorrect usage comes up so much more often that it has essentially taken on that meaning.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 7 June 2021 22:25 (two weeks ago) link

it's definitely a lost cause but it makes me think twice about whether whoever's using it is a good writer

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 7 June 2021 22:26 (two weeks ago) link

We should just stop using the phrase, it’s illegal now

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Monday, 7 June 2021 22:33 (two weeks ago) link

it's a medieval mistranslation from Latin, which is turn was a bad translation of the original Greek, so it was already wrong to begin with

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 01:23 (two weeks ago) link

it's an awkward phrase when used correctly; used incorrectly, it's posing of the worst sort

brad otm

mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 01:41 (two weeks ago) link

I think it’s too commonplace to be seen as posing. I hear it misused all the time and it never fails to jar even though I rationally agree with Moodles.

Alba, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 01:58 (two weeks ago) link

Tbf for all the descriptive use it serves it might as well be replaced with "humouring the buzzard." I'm afraid you have presupposed the conclusion in your argument there my good man, quite plainly humouring the f out of that ole buzzard, I dare say.

Noel Emits, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 08:38 (two weeks ago) link

it's definitely a lost cause but it makes me think twice about whether whoever's using it is a good writer

Agree; I hate it but I get that's a personal bugbear of mine.

(I don't think people think it's fancy, I think they just think that's what it is).

kinder, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 09:27 (two weeks ago) link

This is slightly outside where this thread normally goes, but the terms "Brother-in-law" and "Sister-in-Law" have always annoyed me because they are used both to mean your spouse's sibling and your sibling's spouse. And then there's also no word for your spouse's sibling's spouse, so you just have to say "my wife's brother's wife" which is very awkward.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:44 (one week ago) link

oppor-chance-ity

Maresn3st, Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:46 (one week ago) link

you would say "my brother-in-law's wife", no?

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:47 (one week ago) link

xpost

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:47 (one week ago) link

oppor-chance-ity

You mean people other than couthy Glaswegian pensioners say this?

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:49 (one week ago) link

And then there's also no word for your spouse's sibling's spouse, so you just have to say "my wife's brother's wife" which is very awkward.

We need a word that means that, which also means your sibling's spouse's sibling.

Alba, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:26 (one week ago) link

I hear it misused all the time and it never fails to jar even though I rationally agree with Moodles.

It was being misused from the moment it was translated into English, so there's no real basis for approving of the "correct" usage and disapproving of the more recent "incorrect" one. At best, they're equally wrong. Using "begging" as the English translation for the Latin "petitio" is like translating the English phrase "running the show" into another language as "flowing the show". And then hundreds of years later people try and justify the bad translation by saying something like "water is so powerful that its flow sweeps away everything, so it is in control".

You should just use "assuming the conclusion". It's an accurate translation of the original Greek phrase.

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:57 (one week ago) link

I won’t be doing that. But thank you for the explanation. I think I’ll still get annoyed by it being used instead of “raise the question” though. The phrase must just die.

Alba, Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:06 (one week ago) link

let’s just bugger it instead

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 10 June 2021 16:28 (one week ago) link

I assume your pardon?

Alba, Thursday, 10 June 2021 16:37 (one week ago) link

Usages that annoy the shit out of a mathematician acquaintance of mine: people describing things (usually coronavirus infections) as growing 'exponentially' when they're merely increasing at an uneven rate. Basically if it's not the formula in the first paragraph here (that I can't figure out how to paste in): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_growth, then it's not exponential. Apparently.

I gave it my all and my all wasn't enough (Matt #2), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:10 (one week ago) link

I'd noticed that and let it slide cos it seemed to be a byproduct of the same reason some people think "penultimate" means "really really ultimate"

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:05 (one week ago) link

people should stop using words

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:41 (one week ago) link

and start making sense

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:43 (one week ago) link

"OMG that's so random!"

But they don't mean 'random' at all, they mean lame or bogus.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:01 (one week ago) link

Do they? I think it’s usually more like “weird”.

Alba, Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:11 (one week ago) link

People use the words "random" and "surreal" in ways that make me want to punch them in the throat.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:15 (one week ago) link

I guess it can be interpreted as weird or odd as well, but never in a good way...

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:19 (one week ago) link

People use the words "random" and "surreal" in ways that make me want to punch them in the throat.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, June 10, 2021 2:15 PM (sixteen minutes ago)

do you have a normal reaction to anything

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:33 (one week ago) link

random originally meant fast

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 11 June 2021 03:14 (one week ago) link

your mom was so random last night

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 June 2021 03:17 (one week ago) link

they don't mean 'random' at all, they mean lame or bogus

yeah, and what about when people say 'bad' but they really mean 'good'? or when they write 'phat' instead of using a word that really exists? it's kee-ray-zee!

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Friday, 11 June 2021 03:19 (one week ago) link

> the terms "Brother-in-law" and "Sister-in-Law" have always annoyed me because they are used both to mean your spouse's sibling and your sibling's spouse.

the rules for second cousin once removed etc are similarly confusing but because they are, if I'm reading them correctly, asymetric.

koogs, Friday, 11 June 2021 05:41 (one week ago) link

The thing I get with highly imprecise or hyperbolic use of words is that while I'm perfectly aware of what's likely to have been meant, my brain will also provide a literal reading.

It can be both annoying and amusing. Amusing is better obviously but then I have to hold back from sharing too many bad jokes as it often isn't appreciated ;-(

Noel Emits, Friday, 11 June 2021 12:59 (one week ago) link

I just introduce my family as "friends, friends of friends, and some of my gift service clients"

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 11 June 2021 13:55 (one week ago) link

I’ve referred to my wife’s sibling as my brother-in-law and to his spouse as my sister-in-law but never really considered the implied incestuousness until now

joygoat, Friday, 11 June 2021 22:02 (one week ago) link

I’ve never been able to keep track of the conversation when ppl constantly refer to their relatives by their relation. Siblings I get but “my sister in law’s husband” is so much more confusing than “Jeff, my sister in law’s husband” who is then Jeff going forward. How important could it possibly be for conversation participants to know the full relation??

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 11 June 2021 22:36 (one week ago) link

They should all just be referred to as “my relative” be they wife, son or second cousin once removed.

Alba, Friday, 11 June 2021 22:48 (one week ago) link

just call them all "er indoors"

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Friday, 11 June 2021 22:59 (one week ago) link

or "Cathy's Joe"

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Friday, 11 June 2021 22:59 (one week ago) link

better than "Cathy's Clown"

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 12 June 2021 00:30 (one week ago) link

"Insta" is bad enough but I'm getting increasing numbers of promo emails calling their wares "insta-worthy"
I can't stand it

kinder, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:29 (one week ago) link

I prefer “pizza-worthy”

ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:46 (one week ago) link

I suspect languages other than English have more precise terms for family/relations.

mahb, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 08:40 (six days ago) link

"OMG that's so random!"

But they don't mean 'random' at all, they mean lame or bogus.

― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:01 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

I specifically remember the first time I heard other kids my age saying "random." It was 1991 and I was randomly (!!) paired up at a youth conference with a roommate who used it in every sentence. I switched roommates.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 12:19 (six days ago) link

these are my kin

over there? my otherkin!

mark s, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 13:51 (six days ago) link

stadia

Sam Weller, Thursday, 17 June 2021 16:50 (five days ago) link


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