Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

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Lately, "veggies" has been bugging the shit out of me... too flip, too Australian sounding. Also, "At the end of the day..." is being heavily abused by politicos... a new catch-phrase with no meaning.

Now, a small cadre of philistines in my office has been using the word "outreach" as a NOUN... "Were you able to establish some outreach with the printers?" etc.

What language abuses have been rubbing you raw lately?

andy, Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

"TURN BACK YOU POXY FULE"

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

what?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

That seems like it'd be right up your alley, TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

My friends got into saying "P-word" as a jokingly PC way of saying "pussy" .. i.e. - "so-and-so is a p-word." I tried to explain that it's a real pussy move to be afraid of saying pussy and hypocritical of anyone then to call anyone else a p-word. I think it fell on deaf ears.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

my p hurts!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

If my dad wants to agree with something you've said, he says "This is true." It really, really gets me annoyed, for no other reason than overuse as far as I can think.

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

"Have a Cool Yule!" - I haven't actually heard this lately but because of the season I remembered this the other day and darkly mulled over its wankiness.

Chriddof (Chriddof), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

using "Cool Yule" seems like it should automatically warrant a knife in the face.

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link

My father met Cheech Marin while drunk and got his autograph. My father is not the autograph type, but kept it because it is a small bar napkin that says "BE COOL FOOL, CHEECH." A man of few words, that Cheech.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I cant stand it when I hear someone say 'impactful' is that even a word? Impact is not a property, its created.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm getting really pissed of with american interpretations of 'Liberal', 'Libertarian' and 'Conservative'

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I also get upset about "N-Word" as well. If you're using it in a critical context, people will understand that. If you're not, then you should have the conviction to let people hear it if you want to say it.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I hate "touch base" and "metrosexual"

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:55 (seventeen years ago) link

OH come on, let's touch bases.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, "metrosexual" is possible the lamest noun of the new millenia.

andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Or is it an adjective? I don't know.

andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

If my dad wants to agree with something you've said, he says "This is true." It really, really gets me annoyed, for no other reason than overuse as far as I can think.

-- caitlin (wpsal...) (webmail), December 23rd, 2003. (caitlin)


Oh yes, yes yes. I second that one. And the people who say it, say it over and over.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

But Ed, those words have different interpretations in almost every country in which they are used.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I blame the consolidation of global political power and the diminution of class mobility on people who write in the passive voice.

I also have a horror of people who write prolifically in all caps.

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:07 (seventeen years ago) link


"It must say something about ILX that this is the most repeated topic of all time..."

This is true.

But, this is a topic that should be dealt with routinely and harshly... the only way we can correct the language and suppress it's organic growth is by exposing and banning every new usage as it occurs... Isn't that what the French do?

andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Least favorite (mis)usage ever - "ON accident..." it's BY accident you fucking moron!!

Also: 'fridge,' girls who refer to each other as 'girl,' proactive...i'll be back when i think of more....

roger adultery, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I know, oops, but still it pisses me off.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:54 (seventeen years ago) link

The recurrence of this topic is always accompanied by the recurrence of complaint about its recurrence.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Space. All this crap about needing space. Fuck off, then.

Roderick the Visigoth. (Jake Proudlock), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:19 (seventeen years ago) link

All girls must now refer to one another as "guy"

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:30 (seventeen years ago) link

ok?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Using "Sexy" in a business environment that has nothing to do with sex. As in "this is a very sexy proposal for our company". Well, I guess, if ripping people off is what turns you on.

BrianB (BrianB), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 05:26 (seventeen years ago) link

'exact same'.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

"bird" instead of "girl" or "woman". AAAAAARGH.

Melly E (Melly E), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

When people call each other 'babe' and the completely inappropriate use of the word 'literally'. Also can I add at this point, even if it may not be entirely relevant, the unjustifiable grammatical error in Rachael Stevens' song 'Sweet Dreams My LA Ex' : "accuse me of things I never done." And I've listened hard for "I've never done" to try and give her the benefit of the doubt but she doesn't say it.

barbara wintergreen, Monday, 29 December 2003 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

"Begging the question" and "chomping at the bit." The first is almost always used incorrectly, and the second should be "champing," Goddamn it.

Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Monday, 29 December 2003 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

or "bits"

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 29 December 2003 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

'any way shape or form'. Most heard in full-media-glare denials of misdeeds. Used by dodgy sportsmen who have been 'coached' by their minders for the occasion. It immediately strips the first dozen layers of credibility from whatever statement is being made.

'poetic justice'. Used by the lazy to describe all 'justice' the speaker approves of, instead of a particular type. The adjective is rendered meaningless.

Agree re 'bird' for woman/girl, and lament its threatened return. Stinks of 'I'm being un-PC, where's my medal?'. Also the C-person uses it, which kinda ends the argument.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 29 December 2003 23:59 (seventeen years ago) link

optics

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

also photonic inplace of optic

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:10 (seventeen years ago) link

"the....(insert superlative)...in pop."

barbara wintergreen, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:19 (seventeen years ago) link

To return to the top of the thread, I still after 20 odd years gag on 'outreach' as a VERB....

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link

the mightily empty "i could care less" variant on being unable to do the same

ermes marana, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 01:47 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...
People who pronounce the word "presentation" as "PRE-sentation".

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:29 (sixteen years ago) link

since i was reading some VICIOUS anti- rachael ray sentiment last night and i'm still feelin' the love: "E.V.O.O. EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE OIL"

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:32 (sixteen years ago) link

"YUM-O"

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:33 (sixteen years ago) link

cf.

gear (gear), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Also: 'fridge,'

Wait, huh? Fridge is the thing you put food in, whats wrong with it?

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 18 August 2005 08:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Saying "it impacted on me" instead of "it had an impact on me"... well that's annoying enough but, just recently, I've heard people say "it impacted me" - which surely would only make sense if the speaker was a molar?

Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 09:10 (sixteen years ago) link

'fridge,'

I'm picturing him saying things such as "Would you like me to remove another beverage from the refrigerator for you, whilst we watch some association football?"

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:29 (sixteen years ago) link

bougie, instead of bourgeois. heard it four times last week.

naus (Robert T), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:38 (sixteen years ago) link

"Chav"

Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:39 (sixteen years ago) link

bourgie?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Everyone British says fortnight. I even looked up what crenallated means to check if it’s something we are all trying to appear and well I can’t decide now.

Alba, Monday, 6 September 2021 23:59 (two weeks ago) link

if speech were battlements, crenelations would be a useful feature

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 00:05 (two weeks ago) link

sounds like someone's got a case of the fortnights

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 00:09 (two weeks ago) link

Hardly. I'll never be forty again!

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 00:27 (two weeks ago) link

I know it has almost certainly been here many times before, probably I've posted it myself, but continue to be disappointed at how many people feel it is acceptable to ever say/write "monetize"

fc_TEFH28mo (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 09:29 (two weeks ago) link

what would you say?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 09:32 (two weeks ago) link

I would say "stop treating your art like it's a MLM scheme"

fc_TEFH28mo (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 09:36 (two weeks ago) link

A free Spotify account is 'art'?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:07 (two weeks ago) link

“All free Spotify accounts are quite useless” – Oscar Wilde

Alba, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:13 (two weeks ago) link

Sorry, not following you, this is something I come across all the time in podcasting, imagine it is the same for any "creatives"

fc_TEFH28mo (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:13 (two weeks ago) link

xp

fc_TEFH28mo (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:13 (two weeks ago) link

Well it’s used in other contexts too, is the point, I guess. Monetizing users is a phrase endemic in tech business. On art, I suppose it’s an uglier way of the old “making a living out of it”. Biz should try that on for size. How do we make a living out of these free Bumble account holders?

Alba, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:22 (two weeks ago) link

Right. Where I come across the word 'monetize' it's in the context of getting money out of subscribers who have signed up to some sort of free tier. The accepted business model for basically all of media publishing is to grow your subscriber base as big as you can and then figure out how to get money out of them. You don't really 'monetize' art - you sell it, or rent it, or whatever. You monetize audiences.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:24 (two weeks ago) link

I mean, this is all also bad, this is why every app pretends to be free then bombards you with ads which you "accidentally" click on. And of course I know that this is the fault of capitalism and lack of regulation rather than individuals, but it would just be better if people were less gung ho about going along with it.

fc_TEFH28mo (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:34 (two weeks ago) link

"creatives" is way way way way worse than "monetize" -- though in the context of art, it makes me think ... "make it like monet" which then leads me to the relations between impressionism / modernism and contemporary capitalism, as opposed to industrial capitalism, and then I think of how many posters and totebags exist and have existed with pictures of Monet's artwork ... whereas "creatives" makes me just feel like vomiting.

sarahell, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 19:05 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, it's really unfortunate when people refer to themselves as 'creatives'... sir, you've been co-opted by yourself

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 19:10 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, it's really unfortunate when people refer to themselves as 'creatives'... sir, you've been co-opted by yourself

― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, September 7, 2021 12:10 PM (one minute ago)

yeahhhhhhhhh though some of them aren't very creative, or at least, they make me want to be as un-creative as possible if being creative means being like them

sarahell, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 19:13 (two weeks ago) link

I always think of that one scene in Hollywood Shuffle.

What Does Blecch Mean to Me? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 19:37 (two weeks ago) link

lay off the creatives, they're just trying to generate some content

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:42 (two weeks ago) link

When people describe themselves as "creatives," it makes me think they know nothing about being creative.

Kind regards, Anus (the table is the table), Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:03 (two weeks ago) link

i mean... literally "creative" is my job title so i feel very seen here

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:08 (two weeks ago) link

"Kieth"

Sam Weller, Friday, 10 September 2021 07:42 (two weeks ago) link

sorry, this is "words, usages and phrases..."
think you're looking for "people..."

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 September 2021 07:49 (two weeks ago) link

When Youtubers say 'let's get into it...'

Maresn3st, Friday, 10 September 2021 12:18 (two weeks ago) link

“Smash that like button”

"The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 10 September 2021 13:27 (two weeks ago) link

that one annoys me too because I struggle with imagining it done literally -- maybe it's just me, but I realize a lot of these terms in this thread that annoy me, the reason they annoy me has to do with the relationship between the term and their literal referents, and to some extent the connotations of the referents.

sarahell, Friday, 10 September 2021 15:40 (two weeks ago) link

if you smash it, the button will be broken, there is no correlation with how vigorously you press the button with how subscribed you are.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 September 2021 15:45 (two weeks ago) link

exactly! why would you want people to break the like button? Then they would be unable to give you future likes? And then your influence would take a nose-dive

sarahell, Friday, 10 September 2021 15:57 (two weeks ago) link

also sounds uncomfortably like a certain kind of man saying "I'd smash that" - now there is a truly disgusting phrase.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 September 2021 16:00 (two weeks ago) link

I blame Smashmouth

Alba, Friday, 10 September 2021 16:03 (two weeks ago) link

hey now!

sarahell, Friday, 10 September 2021 19:44 (two weeks ago) link

lol

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 11 September 2021 08:46 (two weeks ago) link

getting a bit annoyed with self-proclaimed leftists adopting Xtian/GOP moralist words like "good" and "evil" to describe people and ideas.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 September 2021 19:32 (one week ago) link

Don't know if this has been covered yet, but influencer and influencer-mimicking ads that begin with a person saying, "Hey guys..."

Shut the fuck up.

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 13 September 2021 19:40 (one week ago) link

lol otm

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 September 2021 19:46 (one week ago) link

"wellness" and "mindfulness"

Porking level G4 (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 16 September 2021 13:10 (one week ago) link

is there a specific context that is the most annoying, or just in general? ... I agree btw, especially when you add "healing"

sarahell, Thursday, 16 September 2021 16:12 (one week ago) link

Also 'detox', unless it's in the context of recovering heroin addicts.

john landis as man being smashed into window (uncredited) (Matt #2), Thursday, 16 September 2021 16:24 (one week ago) link

mindfulness is a perfectly simple and useful term that can be understood by nearly everyone without much effort and once it is understood it doesn't need to be talked about very much, if at all. it just means 'paying careful attention and not getting distracted by stray thoughts or shiny objects'.

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Friday, 17 September 2021 04:45 (one week ago) link

I work in a community mental health agency and both words (though not "healing") get used many times a day. I understand "mindfulness" to be a very specific concept - more or less what Aimless wrote, but specifically relevant in contrast to the long Western tradition of mental health being intellectualized and cognitive, removed from the physical experience a person is having in the moment. It does have a distinct meaning that explains the use of the word. Not to justify the bazillion apps and initiatives that try to capitalize on it's trendiness. "Wellness" may not be the best term for this, but it also gets used somewhat specifically to refer to those activities that enable a person to live a healthy lifestyle but that are not especially medical, clinical, or therapeutic. So the weight loss support groups and things like that that are run by our center are part of the Wellness Program. It is admittedly a mushier category and some things they have included like painting and board game groups make it mushier. Though I fully believe having hobbies that don't explicitly make you less well is a good thing that many people in this country seem to have a hard time generating.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 17 September 2021 16:50 (one week ago) link

Beware the wellness industrial complex

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 17 September 2021 17:08 (one week ago) link

kinda

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 17 September 2021 18:10 (one week ago) link

one of the things that has probably become trite at this point, is corporate culture using "wellness" as a way of signaling that they care about their employees, yet conversations and practices about "wellness" don't include things like paying living wages, allowing for flexible schedules, and getting rid of workplace dynamics that foster misogyny, racism, etc.

sarahell, Saturday, 18 September 2021 22:19 (one week ago) link

Going WAY back to Giclee, which I found when searching for inkjet as it's something I'm dipping my toes into, just wanted to clarify a few things. Yes, the term is totally annoying and pretentious. Originally it meant "fancy inkjet" to try to differentiate but more often than not people are moving on from the phrase. Tom Ashe, who's book Color Management & Quality Output, which is the most up-to-date and well written book on the subject, has a whole chapter about this, including various options, and I think they mostly settle on "Archival Pigment Print".

Fact is, all of this printing is technically the same technology as the shitty clogged inkjet printer on your desktop. So the terminology exists to just point out various factors, half of which ideally imply the skill that goes into it, and half of which imply issues regarding the technology and paper choice, i.e. using the best quality inks and papers free of brightening chemicals. In other words, you printing some art out on your desktop canon or epson is just an "inkjet" print, printing the same art out on a 11/12 color inkjet with the best quality inks onto archival quality paper that in combination will last 100+ years, is "archival pigment printing". I've just been using the term "museum quality" when talking to people.

Also many of the cheaper printers use Dye based ink, which ironically has a larger color gamut, but is prone to fading, while the most high-end machines use pigment based ink, which isn't.

dan selzer, Thursday, 23 September 2021 13:54 (three days ago) link

I bought some clothes online and now my timeline is being spammed with ads for things phrased like "The Morning Trouser", "The Slimline Jean" etc. This construction probably felt classy at first but is now so proliferate it reeks of posturing

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 23 September 2021 15:12 (three days ago) link

Sounds like you're being served your jeans on a silver platter by a French waiter; "Monsieur, ze twill overshirt, s'il vous plait"

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 23 September 2021 15:31 (three days ago) link

For some reason the singular trouser, pant, jean, chino rankles more than the highfalutin catalogese. No one says these things, in American English anyway:

That's a nice trouser you're wearing today.

Wait a sec, I'm not wearing my pant.

Where did you buy that jean?

Crap, I've spilled red wine on my favorite no-iron chino.

Richard Marxist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 September 2021 16:05 (three days ago) link

An instagram the other day was boasting about impeccable “shirting”

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 23 September 2021 16:15 (three days ago) link

In the teal colorway?

mahb, Thursday, 23 September 2021 16:17 (three days ago) link

That's a ruddy good trousering you have going on there

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 24 September 2021 23:53 (two days ago) link


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