Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

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Lately, "veggies" has been bugging the shit out of me... too flip, too Australian sounding. Also, "At the end of the day..." is being heavily abused by politicos... a new catch-phrase with no meaning.

Now, a small cadre of philistines in my office has been using the word "outreach" as a NOUN... "Were you able to establish some outreach with the printers?" etc.

What language abuses have been rubbing you raw lately?

andy, Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:18 (eighteen years ago) link

"TURN BACK YOU POXY FULE"

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link

what?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link

That seems like it'd be right up your alley, TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link

My friends got into saying "P-word" as a jokingly PC way of saying "pussy" .. i.e. - "so-and-so is a p-word." I tried to explain that it's a real pussy move to be afraid of saying pussy and hypocritical of anyone then to call anyone else a p-word. I think it fell on deaf ears.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link

my p hurts!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link

If my dad wants to agree with something you've said, he says "This is true." It really, really gets me annoyed, for no other reason than overuse as far as I can think.

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:21 (eighteen years ago) link

"Have a Cool Yule!" - I haven't actually heard this lately but because of the season I remembered this the other day and darkly mulled over its wankiness.

Chriddof (Chriddof), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link

using "Cool Yule" seems like it should automatically warrant a knife in the face.

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link

My father met Cheech Marin while drunk and got his autograph. My father is not the autograph type, but kept it because it is a small bar napkin that says "BE COOL FOOL, CHEECH." A man of few words, that Cheech.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I cant stand it when I hear someone say 'impactful' is that even a word? Impact is not a property, its created.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm getting really pissed of with american interpretations of 'Liberal', 'Libertarian' and 'Conservative'

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I also get upset about "N-Word" as well. If you're using it in a critical context, people will understand that. If you're not, then you should have the conviction to let people hear it if you want to say it.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I hate "touch base" and "metrosexual"

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link

OH come on, let's touch bases.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, "metrosexual" is possible the lamest noun of the new millenia.

andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Or is it an adjective? I don't know.

andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

If my dad wants to agree with something you've said, he says "This is true." It really, really gets me annoyed, for no other reason than overuse as far as I can think.

-- caitlin (wpsal...) (webmail), December 23rd, 2003. (caitlin)


Oh yes, yes yes. I second that one. And the people who say it, say it over and over.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link

But Ed, those words have different interpretations in almost every country in which they are used.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I blame the consolidation of global political power and the diminution of class mobility on people who write in the passive voice.

I also have a horror of people who write prolifically in all caps.

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:07 (eighteen years ago) link


"It must say something about ILX that this is the most repeated topic of all time..."

This is true.

But, this is a topic that should be dealt with routinely and harshly... the only way we can correct the language and suppress it's organic growth is by exposing and banning every new usage as it occurs... Isn't that what the French do?

andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Least favorite (mis)usage ever - "ON accident..." it's BY accident you fucking moron!!

Also: 'fridge,' girls who refer to each other as 'girl,' proactive...i'll be back when i think of more....

roger adultery, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I know, oops, but still it pisses me off.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:54 (eighteen years ago) link

The recurrence of this topic is always accompanied by the recurrence of complaint about its recurrence.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Space. All this crap about needing space. Fuck off, then.

Roderick the Visigoth. (Jake Proudlock), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:19 (eighteen years ago) link

All girls must now refer to one another as "guy"

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:30 (eighteen years ago) link

ok?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Using "Sexy" in a business environment that has nothing to do with sex. As in "this is a very sexy proposal for our company". Well, I guess, if ripping people off is what turns you on.

BrianB (BrianB), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 05:26 (eighteen years ago) link

'exact same'.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

"bird" instead of "girl" or "woman". AAAAAARGH.

Melly E (Melly E), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 21:10 (eighteen years ago) link

When people call each other 'babe' and the completely inappropriate use of the word 'literally'. Also can I add at this point, even if it may not be entirely relevant, the unjustifiable grammatical error in Rachael Stevens' song 'Sweet Dreams My LA Ex' : "accuse me of things I never done." And I've listened hard for "I've never done" to try and give her the benefit of the doubt but she doesn't say it.

barbara wintergreen, Monday, 29 December 2003 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link

"Begging the question" and "chomping at the bit." The first is almost always used incorrectly, and the second should be "champing," Goddamn it.

Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Monday, 29 December 2003 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link

or "bits"

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 29 December 2003 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link

'any way shape or form'. Most heard in full-media-glare denials of misdeeds. Used by dodgy sportsmen who have been 'coached' by their minders for the occasion. It immediately strips the first dozen layers of credibility from whatever statement is being made.

'poetic justice'. Used by the lazy to describe all 'justice' the speaker approves of, instead of a particular type. The adjective is rendered meaningless.

Agree re 'bird' for woman/girl, and lament its threatened return. Stinks of 'I'm being un-PC, where's my medal?'. Also the C-person uses it, which kinda ends the argument.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 29 December 2003 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link

optics

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

also photonic inplace of optic

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:10 (eighteen years ago) link

"the....(insert superlative)...in pop."

barbara wintergreen, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link

To return to the top of the thread, I still after 20 odd years gag on 'outreach' as a VERB....

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link

the mightily empty "i could care less" variant on being unable to do the same

ermes marana, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 01:47 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
People who pronounce the word "presentation" as "PRE-sentation".

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:29 (sixteen years ago) link

since i was reading some VICIOUS anti- rachael ray sentiment last night and i'm still feelin' the love: "E.V.O.O. EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE OIL"

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:32 (sixteen years ago) link

"YUM-O"

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:33 (sixteen years ago) link

cf.

gear (gear), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Also: 'fridge,'

Wait, huh? Fridge is the thing you put food in, whats wrong with it?

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 18 August 2005 08:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Saying "it impacted on me" instead of "it had an impact on me"... well that's annoying enough but, just recently, I've heard people say "it impacted me" - which surely would only make sense if the speaker was a molar?

Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 09:10 (sixteen years ago) link

'fridge,'

I'm picturing him saying things such as "Would you like me to remove another beverage from the refrigerator for you, whilst we watch some association football?"

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:29 (sixteen years ago) link

bougie, instead of bourgeois. heard it four times last week.

naus (Robert T), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:38 (sixteen years ago) link

"Chav"

Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:39 (sixteen years ago) link

bourgie?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:42 (sixteen years ago) link

No one:
Alba: Me: I read this as a parody of awful Twitter templates
Also me: Keep this shit off my timeline

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 10 June 2022 13:06 (two months ago) link

Let that sink in

Alba, Friday, 10 June 2022 13:13 (two months ago) link

Louder for the people in the back.

No lies detected

Nutellanor Roosevelt (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 10 June 2022 13:24 (two months ago) link

HOLD 👏 MY 👏 BEER👏 !

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 10 June 2022 13:26 (two months ago) link

I mostly hate "louder for the people in the back" because it's often used as a reply to really insipid, nonsensical shit.

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 June 2022 13:36 (two months ago) link

@sarahell - even "Pringle Bells!" or something.. wow, they blew it, so much potential

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 10 June 2022 16:42 (two months ago) link

Merry Pringles LOL

Reminds me of Brian Regan's bit about "Fiedler Roofing Company."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 10 June 2022 16:47 (two months ago) link

yes!!! thank you both!

sarahell, Friday, 10 June 2022 19:25 (two months ago) link

Also Arrested Development 'Mock Trial with J. Reinhold'

kinder, Friday, 10 June 2022 20:58 (two months ago) link

When I was doing advertising and marketing work, it was customary to present clients with three options.

It was usually pretty easy to generate one safe idea and one slightly edgy idea. To round out the choices, we would sometimes include a comically bad idea, on the theory that its badness would force the client away from it and toward the one we actually wanted to run.

Had to stop doing that when clients kept choosing the terrible idea.

Nutellanor Roosevelt (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 11 June 2022 05:59 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

"Big beast", to describe influential figures in political parties.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 11:41 (four weeks ago) link

Interesting about the meme phrases.

I have never heard 'no notes' or 'got milk'.

Poster Alba's satire of meme phrases above was very good.

Has no-one mentioned '(checks notes)'? The thing about this is - it's another dumb meme phrase, but it has a kind of use, and people who are good and sensible sometimes use it.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 12:01 (four weeks ago) link

https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/_kNj8h1DOIsNoGEejE44pzv2NIU=/800x1077/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/IAKHBZHVVM3VQQKY3HCTVPHQQ4.jpg

"got milk?" was an american ad campaign (for milk, obv) full of pictures of (american) celebs and sports stars like the above

koogs, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 07:28 (four weeks ago) link

I was aware of that but never quite understood it. Is 'got milk?' meant to mean 'have you got any milk?' Like if someone asks what you want to drink?

kinder, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 09:07 (four weeks ago) link

The intial Got Milk? phrase was created by the American advertising agency Goodby, Silverstein & Partners. In an interview in Art & Copy, a 2009 documentary that focused on the origins of famous advertising slogans, Jeff Goodby and Rich Silverstein said that the phrase almost didn't turn into an advertising campaign. According to The New York Times, people at Goodby, Silverstein "thought it was lazy, not to mention grammatically incorrect".[5]

The advertisements would typically feature people in various situations involving dry or sticky foods and treats such as cakes and cookies. The people then would find themselves in an uncomfortable situation due to a full mouth and no milk to wash it down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gkqzxss8Ss

Number None, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 09:36 (four weeks ago) link

It’s probably been visited before, but “stepped foot into” instead of “set foot into” or “stepped into”. You don’t “step” your feet, jeez.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 21:45 (four weeks ago) link

Also “milk to wash it down” there makes me want to heave, but that’s just me.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 21:47 (four weeks ago) link

Me too. Is drinking glasses of milk solely the province of the very young and very old? I enjoy a variety of dairy products, but I can't remember the last time I drank milk. Probably when I was a teenager or younger. Meanwhile my 8-year-old child drinks it all the time and my septuagenarian father has either milk or red wine with just about every meal. Sometimes both, one after the other, in the same glass!

When I was a kid there was an ad campaign from the Canadian Milk Board (or whatever the body may be called) attempting to sell milk as a refreshing beverage. The ads simply said

"MILK ON... ICE".

I always thought "MILK... ON ICE" would make more sense, but I'm not in marketing.

Here's a promotional button that I have saved for about 35 years for just such an occasion as this.

https://i.imgur.com/IUGi9AC.jpg

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Thursday, 14 July 2022 00:39 (four weeks ago) link

I regret to inform you that this was the British equivalent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN1r5vTznAs

Alba, Thursday, 14 July 2022 10:19 (four weeks ago) link

i thought that was going to be this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvumt4BJpfk

(there's a Humphrey about...)

the milk marketing board also used to sponsor a round-Britain bike event, the Milk Race

koogs, Friday, 15 July 2022 17:13 (three weeks ago) link

Is drinking glasses of milk solely the province of the very young and very old? I enjoy a variety of dairy products, but I can't remember the last time I drank milk.

I feel like it definitely was by the 1980s ... hence the US advertising campaign to encourage more people to drink milk

sarahell, Saturday, 16 July 2022 04:16 (three weeks ago) link

Milk
It does a body good

i drink milk quite a lot, it's good for acid stomach and also i like how it tastes (like milk)

mark s, Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:06 (three weeks ago) link

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinka_pinta_milka_day

has been described as one of the most successful advertising slogans of all time, though the consumption of milk per person generally decreased over the period it was used.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:21 (three weeks ago) link

I didn't know that slogan before the 'Drink-a Jar-a Wine-a-day' riff on it in Asterix...The Gladiator?

nashwan, Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:25 (three weeks ago) link

In American novels of the early 20th-c I’m regularly coming across characters enjoying an ice-cold glass of buttermilk on a hot summer day. Now I grew up drinking milk at lunch and dinner and I still like it fine, but I just can’t imagine grabbing a frothy glass of buttermilk to cool off.

Sam Weller, Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:33 (three weeks ago) link

oh god i can. i love buttermilk so much.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:36 (three weeks ago) link

i had in my head that the "drinka pinta milka day" slogan was invented by salman rushdie but that was "go to work on an egg" and also it was fay weldon

mark s, Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:36 (three weeks ago) link

salman rushdie was "naughty but nice" (important to use quote marks in that sentence.)

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:56 (three weeks ago) link

salman rushdie was "’naughty but nice’,” according to ledge

Alba, Saturday, 16 July 2022 16:20 (three weeks ago) link

My parents bought my childhood home off the man who came up with “This is the age of the train”.

Alba, Saturday, 16 July 2022 16:23 (three weeks ago) link

Blimey, he also did “milk has got a lotta bottle” and “I’m a secret lemonade drinker”

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Rod_Allen_(advertising_executive)

Alba, Saturday, 16 July 2022 16:26 (three weeks ago) link

the man who animated the sleepy penguin in the “this is the age of the train” ad used to live directly opposite me

he wasn't elvis costello's dad tho

mark s, Saturday, 16 July 2022 16:34 (three weeks ago) link

Julianna Margulies’ dad came up with ‘plop plop, fizz fizz/oh, what a relief it is!’ for Alka-Seltzer.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Saturday, 16 July 2022 20:11 (three weeks ago) link

Hoyt Axton's mother wrote (or cowrote) "Heartbreak Hotel." She was also completely unrelated to Elvis Costello, as far as I know.

your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 16 July 2022 21:16 (three weeks ago) link

I learned an interesting story yesterday about Elvis Costello’s mother getting contraband Lee Konitz records from the US through a Liverpudlian Merchant Marine who later changed his name to Michael Holliday and had a couple of number one UK hits.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 July 2022 00:47 (three weeks ago) link

Have you read his memoir? It's like 85% about his parentage and family history, 7% about being a person of Irish extraction, and like 5% about having created indelibly exciting New Wave music. Then another 3% of sheer random stuff he has to say about, like, early 20th century passenger ships.

If you open it expecting 300 pages of anecdotes about Nick Lowe or Paul McCartney or the Pogues or T-Bone Burnett, it's a disappointment. But if you just want to let him ramble it's fine.

your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 17 July 2022 01:06 (three weeks ago) link

Something that gets used to death by a couple of the Blue Jays broadcasters: "approach," as in "he's got a great two-strike approach," or "I loved his approach in that at-bat." It's not meaningless, they just use it way too often.

clemenza, Sunday, 17 July 2022 01:45 (three weeks ago) link

more off-topic milk stuff. i forgot how big a thing the milk marketing board was in the 80s UK:

"Milk Cup – The first major trophy to be sponsored in English football was the League Cup, supported by the Milk Marketing Board between 1981 and 1986."

and

"The Milk Race was the most prestigious cycling event in the British calendar running for 35 years between 1958 and 1993 with sponsorship from the now disbanded Milk Marketing Board."

(the milk race used to come through tewkesbury when i was a lad. and the upcoming 2022 tour of britain is starting a stage there)

koogs, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 15:26 (two weeks ago) link

"after aligning internally,"

Tracer Hand, Monday, 1 August 2022 15:29 (one week ago) link

sounds uncomfortable tbh

Tracer Hand, Monday, 1 August 2022 15:29 (one week ago) link

"i'm conscious of time"

sounds exhausting

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 14:00 (yesterday) link

lol

I don't find it annoying (yet?), but "gatekeeping" seems to be on the same route to ambiguity-via-overuse as gaslighting

rob, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 14:16 (yesterday) link

"We've decided to go in a different direction."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 14:31 (yesterday) link

They should do what they did in Dilbert

"Knock knock"
"Who's there?"
"Not you, anymore"

"We've decided to go in a different direction."

Ah, yes! We think your [choose one: a) idea b) experience c) talent] is really amazing and fabulous, but we've decided to go in a different direction; we think [stupid, clueless, no-talent] is a better fit for what we have in mind.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 18:19 (yesterday) link

"So the direction we've decided to go is . . . down."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 18:50 (yesterday) link


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