Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

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Lately, "veggies" has been bugging the shit out of me... too flip, too Australian sounding. Also, "At the end of the day..." is being heavily abused by politicos... a new catch-phrase with no meaning.

Now, a small cadre of philistines in my office has been using the word "outreach" as a NOUN... "Were you able to establish some outreach with the printers?" etc.

What language abuses have been rubbing you raw lately?

andy, Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"TURN BACK YOU POXY FULE"

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

what?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

That seems like it'd be right up your alley, TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

My friends got into saying "P-word" as a jokingly PC way of saying "pussy" .. i.e. - "so-and-so is a p-word." I tried to explain that it's a real pussy move to be afraid of saying pussy and hypocritical of anyone then to call anyone else a p-word. I think it fell on deaf ears.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

my p hurts!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

If my dad wants to agree with something you've said, he says "This is true." It really, really gets me annoyed, for no other reason than overuse as far as I can think.

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"Have a Cool Yule!" - I haven't actually heard this lately but because of the season I remembered this the other day and darkly mulled over its wankiness.

Chriddof (Chriddof), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

using "Cool Yule" seems like it should automatically warrant a knife in the face.

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

My father met Cheech Marin while drunk and got his autograph. My father is not the autograph type, but kept it because it is a small bar napkin that says "BE COOL FOOL, CHEECH." A man of few words, that Cheech.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I cant stand it when I hear someone say 'impactful' is that even a word? Impact is not a property, its created.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'm getting really pissed of with american interpretations of 'Liberal', 'Libertarian' and 'Conservative'

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:52 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I also get upset about "N-Word" as well. If you're using it in a critical context, people will understand that. If you're not, then you should have the conviction to let people hear it if you want to say it.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I hate "touch base" and "metrosexual"

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

OH come on, let's touch bases.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, "metrosexual" is possible the lamest noun of the new millenia.

andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Or is it an adjective? I don't know.

andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

If my dad wants to agree with something you've said, he says "This is true." It really, really gets me annoyed, for no other reason than overuse as far as I can think.

-- caitlin (wpsal...) (webmail), December 23rd, 2003. (caitlin)


Oh yes, yes yes. I second that one. And the people who say it, say it over and over.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

But Ed, those words have different interpretations in almost every country in which they are used.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I blame the consolidation of global political power and the diminution of class mobility on people who write in the passive voice.

I also have a horror of people who write prolifically in all caps.

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink


"It must say something about ILX that this is the most repeated topic of all time..."

This is true.

But, this is a topic that should be dealt with routinely and harshly... the only way we can correct the language and suppress it's organic growth is by exposing and banning every new usage as it occurs... Isn't that what the French do?

andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Least favorite (mis)usage ever - "ON accident..." it's BY accident you fucking moron!!

Also: 'fridge,' girls who refer to each other as 'girl,' proactive...i'll be back when i think of more....

roger adultery, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I know, oops, but still it pisses me off.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The recurrence of this topic is always accompanied by the recurrence of complaint about its recurrence.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Space. All this crap about needing space. Fuck off, then.

Roderick the Visigoth. (Jake Proudlock), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

All girls must now refer to one another as "guy"

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:30 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ok?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:30 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Using "Sexy" in a business environment that has nothing to do with sex. As in "this is a very sexy proposal for our company". Well, I guess, if ripping people off is what turns you on.

BrianB (BrianB), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 05:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

'exact same'.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 20:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"bird" instead of "girl" or "woman". AAAAAARGH.

Melly E (Melly E), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 21:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

When people call each other 'babe' and the completely inappropriate use of the word 'literally'. Also can I add at this point, even if it may not be entirely relevant, the unjustifiable grammatical error in Rachael Stevens' song 'Sweet Dreams My LA Ex' : "accuse me of things I never done." And I've listened hard for "I've never done" to try and give her the benefit of the doubt but she doesn't say it.

barbara wintergreen, Monday, 29 December 2003 18:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"Begging the question" and "chomping at the bit." The first is almost always used incorrectly, and the second should be "champing," Goddamn it.

Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Monday, 29 December 2003 20:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

or "bits"

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 29 December 2003 20:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

'any way shape or form'. Most heard in full-media-glare denials of misdeeds. Used by dodgy sportsmen who have been 'coached' by their minders for the occasion. It immediately strips the first dozen layers of credibility from whatever statement is being made.

'poetic justice'. Used by the lazy to describe all 'justice' the speaker approves of, instead of a particular type. The adjective is rendered meaningless.

Agree re 'bird' for woman/girl, and lament its threatened return. Stinks of 'I'm being un-PC, where's my medal?'. Also the C-person uses it, which kinda ends the argument.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 29 December 2003 23:59 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

optics

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

also photonic inplace of optic

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"the....(insert superlative)...in pop."

barbara wintergreen, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

To return to the top of the thread, I still after 20 odd years gag on 'outreach' as a VERB....

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the mightily empty "i could care less" variant on being unable to do the same

ermes marana, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 01:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
People who pronounce the word "presentation" as "PRE-sentation".

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

since i was reading some VICIOUS anti- rachael ray sentiment last night and i'm still feelin' the love: "E.V.O.O. EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE OIL"

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"YUM-O"

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

cf.

gear (gear), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Also: 'fridge,'

Wait, huh? Fridge is the thing you put food in, whats wrong with it?

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 18 August 2005 08:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Saying "it impacted on me" instead of "it had an impact on me"... well that's annoying enough but, just recently, I've heard people say "it impacted me" - which surely would only make sense if the speaker was a molar?

Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 09:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

'fridge,'

I'm picturing him saying things such as "Would you like me to remove another beverage from the refrigerator for you, whilst we watch some association football?"

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

bougie, instead of bourgeois. heard it four times last week.

naus (Robert T), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:38 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"Chav"

Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:39 (twelve years ago) Permalink

bourgie?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

my theory re the misuse of nonplussed is that it sort of rhymes with "not fussed" so ppl think it means that?

The Suite Life of Jack and Wendy (wins), Monday, 13 November 2017 09:53 (one week ago) Permalink

similarly "craven" means cowardly but about half the time I see it used ppl seem to think it means something more like "brazen", again I'm going with the "it kind of rhymes" theory

I'm against prescriptivism in general but when ppl get the meanings of words wrong I reserve the right to drop a "you keep using that word..."

The Suite Life of Jack and Wendy (wins), Monday, 13 November 2017 09:57 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah, there's nothing wrong with telling people to use words malaproperly

the intentional phallusy (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2017 10:02 (one week ago) Permalink

nb I reserve the right but it's not like I exercise it often

basically if you're having a normal conversation with someone & they think "enormity" means enormousness you are a dick if you butt in & correct them, but if you're being subjected to a a prolix op-ed by some windbag and they keep making that error there is some value in being that dick

The Suite Life of Jack and Wendy (wins), Monday, 13 November 2017 10:10 (one week ago) Permalink

otm

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 11:28 (one week ago) Permalink

You little prolix

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 11:29 (one week ago) Permalink

I am on record as prioritizing audience-awareness and context-awareness WAY above right/wrong. In any given writing/editing task, I follow the rules that I think the audience cares about. Or rather, I follow the style guidance that tends to produce text that the audience will read without being distracted either by real, or apparent, wrongness.

Also I agree with wins. You generally don't help matters by correcting casual conversation but it can be enjoyable to point and laugh at windbags.

The crankiness level of that BBC thing made me smile. I should say that the USian meaning of "power cut" is a totally different thing - it's a physical feature of the landscape (trees cut down to facilitate passage of power lines), not an electrical outage.

piezoelectric landlord (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 November 2017 12:27 (one week ago) Permalink

"power cut" sounds like an industry term for something like a Rush song from the mid-80s

President Keyes, Monday, 13 November 2017 13:45 (one week ago) Permalink

it's also a Wings song from 1973!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 November 2017 13:59 (one week ago) Permalink

I have never heard of tree trimming around power lines as a "power cut" in my life. It's just tree trimming.

mh, Monday, 13 November 2017 14:51 (one week ago) Permalink

or a specific hairstyle imp

mh, Monday, 13 November 2017 14:51 (one week ago) Permalink

mh, no, not trimming around trees, I mean the total clearing of a swath over a mountain or through a forest or whatever. In my childhood I definitely heard this kind of thing referred to as a power cut:

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/CNX0DE/aerial-photograph-swath-through-forest-for-electrical-powerlines-alabama-CNX0DE.jpg

Maybe this is a rural or Midwestern usage? Or maybe I was just among idiots. Which is not out of the realm of possibility of course.

piezoelectric landlord (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 November 2017 15:19 (one week ago) Permalink

ahh that's fair, not used to it but I'm from a more urban area, even if in the midwest

mh, Monday, 13 November 2017 15:28 (one week ago) Permalink

Now I'm wondering what other people call those.

piezoelectric landlord (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 November 2017 15:31 (one week ago) Permalink

"where trees used be"

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 15:33 (one week ago) Permalink

in (UK) forestry they're called firebreaks

mark s, Monday, 13 November 2017 15:35 (one week ago) Permalink

this is more for "use other words" I guess, but the cliché "much ink has been spilled"

& the less-encountered but even worse variant "vast quantities of ink have been spilled"

The Suite Life of Jack and Wendy (wins), Monday, 13 November 2017 15:38 (one week ago) Permalink

No use crying

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 15:44 (one week ago) Permalink

"it me"

marcos, Monday, 13 November 2017 16:15 (one week ago) Permalink

Oh Christ I just remembered an even fucking worse version

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treeship: a year in the life (wins), Monday, 13 November 2017 16:18 (one week ago) Permalink

wins stop wasting yr breath on that

i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 13 November 2017 17:22 (one week ago) Permalink

You little prolix

By way of contrast and judging purely by ILX standards (which might deviate from the norms of the larger world), I much prolix.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:16 (one week ago) Permalink

wins stop wasting yr digital breath on that

how's life, Monday, 13 November 2017 19:21 (one week ago) Permalink

Much digital breath has been expelled on shit turns of phrase

treeship: a year in the life (wins), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:24 (one week ago) Permalink

rectal prolix

i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:50 (one week ago) Permalink

inherited this from my actual architect friend who is irked at the hijacking of his field's terminology for software architecture, but the word "architected" still gets under my skin

you're designing or engineering architecture, you're not architecting, my god

mh, Monday, 13 November 2017 20:37 (one week ago) Permalink

I hear this all the time: "arguably" when "inarguably" is the applicable word. I'm not sure if this because of a complete lack of proportionality, if people get the words confused, or if they're being treated as interchangeable. Example: a news report I heard yesterday that said Da Vinci is "arguably one of the most famous painters ever." Well, no--he's inarguably one of the most famous painters ever; if you want to say he's arguably the most famous or the greatest, then sure, you can argue about that.

clemenza, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:09 (five days ago) Permalink

I'd prefer "allegedly one of the most famous painters ever"

President Keyes, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:15 (five days ago) Permalink

suspect the issue there is nervous doubling-up of qualifiers - - - "arguably" piles onto knee-jerk use of "one of the..." with neither one having really been thought through.

gimme the beet poison, free my soul (Doctor Casino), Friday, 17 November 2017 15:17 (five days ago) Permalink

They're the same word tbh

fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Friday, 17 November 2017 15:18 (five days ago) Permalink

the different word is "unarguably"

mark s, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:20 (five days ago) Permalink

I mean they're not the same word but it's the same sentence

tbh inarguably is a nonsense word in that you might claim that it inarguably means inarguably but it doesn't

fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Friday, 17 November 2017 15:22 (five days ago) Permalink

It's flammable and inflammable that are interchangeable, right? I can't see arguable and inarguable as anything but opposites. (Webster's treats "inarguably" and "unarguably" as variations of the same word.)

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inarguable

clemenza, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:23 (five days ago) Permalink

Unarguably isn't a word and I mean fuck a Webster if he argues otherwise

fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Friday, 17 November 2017 15:24 (five days ago) Permalink

unarguably means it isn't possible to have an argument, inarguably means the thing is certain so no one will argue, arguably means we live on the internet and have discovered literally nothing is either unarguable or inarguable

mark s, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:28 (five days ago) Permalink

Yes it is

fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Friday, 17 November 2017 15:30 (five days ago) Permalink

i think you'll find

mark s, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:31 (five days ago) Permalink

well played deems

loretta swit happens (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 November 2017 15:45 (five days ago) Permalink

arugably

mh, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:46 (five days ago) Permalink

unarguably means it isn't possible to have an argument, inarguably means the thing is certain so no one will argue

Having a little trouble getting my head around this. Isn't possible to have an argument because it's so obviously certain (therefore the two words are interchangeable), or isn't possible because...what would be an example of impossibility for some other reason?

clemenza, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:47 (five days ago) Permalink

Inarguably is a mere rhetorical pose, unarguably if it existed is a technical term

fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Friday, 17 November 2017 15:49 (five days ago) Permalink

you're being radicchulous

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Friday, 17 November 2017 17:00 (five days ago) Permalink

Speaking of words that annoy you, I'm sorry British people, but I just can't accept calling that stuff "rocket".

Moodles, Friday, 17 November 2017 17:44 (five days ago) Permalink

it'll soon take off

kinder, Friday, 17 November 2017 19:50 (five days ago) Permalink

Having a little trouble getting my head around this

Has a two-hour train journey to work this one out:

The spaceship hurtled into the star. "We're all dead," said the captain to the crew.

i) This was inarguable. There was no escape.
ii) A short time later, it also became unarguable.

mark s, Friday, 17 November 2017 19:51 (five days ago) Permalink

you're being radicchulous

― ur-oik (rip van wanko), Friday, November 17, 2017 11:00 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark

i loled

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 17 November 2017 19:59 (five days ago) Permalink

lol kinder

gimme the beet poison, free my soul (Doctor Casino), Friday, 17 November 2017 21:45 (five days ago) Permalink

world class, guys

attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 17 November 2017 21:53 (five days ago) Permalink


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