Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

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Lately, "veggies" has been bugging the shit out of me... too flip, too Australian sounding. Also, "At the end of the day..." is being heavily abused by politicos... a new catch-phrase with no meaning.

Now, a small cadre of philistines in my office has been using the word "outreach" as a NOUN... "Were you able to establish some outreach with the printers?" etc.

What language abuses have been rubbing you raw lately?

andy, Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link

"TURN BACK YOU POXY FULE"

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link

what?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link

That seems like it'd be right up your alley, TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link

My friends got into saying "P-word" as a jokingly PC way of saying "pussy" .. i.e. - "so-and-so is a p-word." I tried to explain that it's a real pussy move to be afraid of saying pussy and hypocritical of anyone then to call anyone else a p-word. I think it fell on deaf ears.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

my p hurts!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

If my dad wants to agree with something you've said, he says "This is true." It really, really gets me annoyed, for no other reason than overuse as far as I can think.

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link

"Have a Cool Yule!" - I haven't actually heard this lately but because of the season I remembered this the other day and darkly mulled over its wankiness.

Chriddof (Chriddof), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:26 (sixteen years ago) link

using "Cool Yule" seems like it should automatically warrant a knife in the face.

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:36 (sixteen years ago) link

My father met Cheech Marin while drunk and got his autograph. My father is not the autograph type, but kept it because it is a small bar napkin that says "BE COOL FOOL, CHEECH." A man of few words, that Cheech.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I cant stand it when I hear someone say 'impactful' is that even a word? Impact is not a property, its created.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm getting really pissed of with american interpretations of 'Liberal', 'Libertarian' and 'Conservative'

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I also get upset about "N-Word" as well. If you're using it in a critical context, people will understand that. If you're not, then you should have the conviction to let people hear it if you want to say it.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I hate "touch base" and "metrosexual"

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:55 (sixteen years ago) link

OH come on, let's touch bases.

TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, "metrosexual" is possible the lamest noun of the new millenia.

andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Or is it an adjective? I don't know.

andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link

If my dad wants to agree with something you've said, he says "This is true." It really, really gets me annoyed, for no other reason than overuse as far as I can think.

-- caitlin (wpsal...) (webmail), December 23rd, 2003. (caitlin)


Oh yes, yes yes. I second that one. And the people who say it, say it over and over.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:02 (sixteen years ago) link

But Ed, those words have different interpretations in almost every country in which they are used.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I blame the consolidation of global political power and the diminution of class mobility on people who write in the passive voice.

I also have a horror of people who write prolifically in all caps.

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:07 (sixteen years ago) link


"It must say something about ILX that this is the most repeated topic of all time..."

This is true.

But, this is a topic that should be dealt with routinely and harshly... the only way we can correct the language and suppress it's organic growth is by exposing and banning every new usage as it occurs... Isn't that what the French do?

andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Least favorite (mis)usage ever - "ON accident..." it's BY accident you fucking moron!!

Also: 'fridge,' girls who refer to each other as 'girl,' proactive...i'll be back when i think of more....

roger adultery, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I know, oops, but still it pisses me off.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:54 (sixteen years ago) link

The recurrence of this topic is always accompanied by the recurrence of complaint about its recurrence.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Space. All this crap about needing space. Fuck off, then.

Roderick the Visigoth. (Jake Proudlock), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:19 (sixteen years ago) link

All girls must now refer to one another as "guy"

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:30 (sixteen years ago) link

ok?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Using "Sexy" in a business environment that has nothing to do with sex. As in "this is a very sexy proposal for our company". Well, I guess, if ripping people off is what turns you on.

BrianB (BrianB), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 05:26 (sixteen years ago) link

'exact same'.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link

"bird" instead of "girl" or "woman". AAAAAARGH.

Melly E (Melly E), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

When people call each other 'babe' and the completely inappropriate use of the word 'literally'. Also can I add at this point, even if it may not be entirely relevant, the unjustifiable grammatical error in Rachael Stevens' song 'Sweet Dreams My LA Ex' : "accuse me of things I never done." And I've listened hard for "I've never done" to try and give her the benefit of the doubt but she doesn't say it.

barbara wintergreen, Monday, 29 December 2003 18:24 (sixteen years ago) link

"Begging the question" and "chomping at the bit." The first is almost always used incorrectly, and the second should be "champing," Goddamn it.

Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Monday, 29 December 2003 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

or "bits"

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 29 December 2003 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link

'any way shape or form'. Most heard in full-media-glare denials of misdeeds. Used by dodgy sportsmen who have been 'coached' by their minders for the occasion. It immediately strips the first dozen layers of credibility from whatever statement is being made.

'poetic justice'. Used by the lazy to describe all 'justice' the speaker approves of, instead of a particular type. The adjective is rendered meaningless.

Agree re 'bird' for woman/girl, and lament its threatened return. Stinks of 'I'm being un-PC, where's my medal?'. Also the C-person uses it, which kinda ends the argument.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 29 December 2003 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link

optics

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link

also photonic inplace of optic

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:10 (sixteen years ago) link

"the....(insert superlative)...in pop."

barbara wintergreen, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:19 (sixteen years ago) link

To return to the top of the thread, I still after 20 odd years gag on 'outreach' as a VERB....

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:46 (sixteen years ago) link

the mightily empty "i could care less" variant on being unable to do the same

ermes marana, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 01:47 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...
People who pronounce the word "presentation" as "PRE-sentation".

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:29 (fourteen years ago) link

since i was reading some VICIOUS anti- rachael ray sentiment last night and i'm still feelin' the love: "E.V.O.O. EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE OIL"

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:32 (fourteen years ago) link

"YUM-O"

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:33 (fourteen years ago) link

cf.

gear (gear), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Also: 'fridge,'

Wait, huh? Fridge is the thing you put food in, whats wrong with it?

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 18 August 2005 08:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Saying "it impacted on me" instead of "it had an impact on me"... well that's annoying enough but, just recently, I've heard people say "it impacted me" - which surely would only make sense if the speaker was a molar?

Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 09:10 (fourteen years ago) link

'fridge,'

I'm picturing him saying things such as "Would you like me to remove another beverage from the refrigerator for you, whilst we watch some association football?"

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:29 (fourteen years ago) link

bougie, instead of bourgeois. heard it four times last week.

naus (Robert T), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:38 (fourteen years ago) link

"Chav"

Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:39 (fourteen years ago) link

bourgie?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:42 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh, "depthful"

jmm, Friday, 22 May 2020 14:20 (one month ago) link

depthful is great, it has a classic Old English flavor and that fearsome consonant sequence in the middle!

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 22 May 2020 15:16 (one month ago) link

Hmm, good point. I probably would like it more as literal usage, e.g. "The abyss is most depthful."

jmm, Friday, 22 May 2020 16:06 (one month ago) link

in what sense have you heard it used?

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 22 May 2020 16:52 (one month ago) link

As synonymous with 'profound' or 'meaningful' to describe a work of art. In that context, it always just sounded like a contorted way of saying 'deep'.

I'm happy to learn that 'lengthful' was once in common use.

jmm, Friday, 22 May 2020 17:00 (one month ago) link

I was once in a conversation about a wine (iirc it was a Chateauneuf-du-Pape) where someone said it had a lot of "flavorfulness." Someone else said "yeah, some of us just call that 'flavor.'"

Personally I have no problem with elevated diction, elaborately florid language, and with sesquipedalian circumlocutions. So in theory I am okay with "depthful" and "lengthful," but I know there will always be some sneering simplifier asking why you don't just say "deep" or "long."

I bless Claude Rains down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 May 2020 17:20 (one month ago) link

the idea that simplicity or directness is anywhere near the top of the list of motivations for word choice is insane if you're a linguist. that's not how any of this works! caprice is so undervalued as a foundational aspect of language

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 22 May 2020 17:27 (one month ago) link

sorry i think you mean capriciousness

budo jeru, Friday, 22 May 2020 17:30 (one month ago) link

lol

pomenitul, Friday, 22 May 2020 17:31 (one month ago) link

totally agree, f. hazel.

Just sayin, if you go out into the world of professional writers and editors, be prepared to have to fight any time you want to use a three-syllable word when there's an allegedly synonymous one-syllable word available. There's someone in every office who's read a little too much Hemingway.*

Though I have a tough time defending "compliancy" when the prettier word "compliance" exists.

* = Or, rather, thinks they have. People using "Hemingway" as a stand-in for short/punchy/raw sentences are being both simplistic and wrong. Hemingway wrote a whole bunch of frilly filler as well as cartoonishly muscular, manly, "simple" prose. But that's a different topic.

I bless Claude Rains down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 May 2020 17:42 (one month ago) link

Following Strunk & White is a great guide for 98% of people who must write something in order to communicate to others, because most people have little stomach for writing. They approach it as a tedious chore, a frightening opportunity to fail in public, or an elaborate way to bury their thoughts in impenetrable prose and thereby deflect criticism.

But Strunk & White is not a master class. Every masterly writer moves past that level and learns to write in a flexible prose that personally suits them.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 22 May 2020 17:53 (one month ago) link

sorry i think you mean capriciousness

xpost lol!

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:00 (one month ago) link

re Strunk & White - hell to the yeah. "Omit needless words" is decent advice for some people. But in the wrong hands, it can be turned into a really stifling atmosphere, where joy and fun and play are outlawed.

I bless Claude Rains down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:02 (one month ago) link

Strunk and White have been dead for a combined 100 years or something, there’s nothing timeless about style advice.

silby, Friday, 22 May 2020 18:18 (one month ago) link

"I can't stop thinking about blahblahblah".
I'm fairly sure you stop thinking about it all the time, now fuck off with your failed attempts at gravitas.

Alert! The virus lives (Matt #2), Friday, 22 May 2020 21:05 (one month ago) link

I used that phrase in a thread here yesterday but I don't think I was trying to evoke gravitas!

silby, Friday, 22 May 2020 21:13 (one month ago) link

To be fair to Hemingwayesque editors, paper costs money

dip to dup (rob), Friday, 22 May 2020 21:52 (one month ago) link

yeah like anyone actually uses paper and ink anymore

I bless Bad Brains down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 May 2020 22:03 (one month ago) link

some people eat them

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 May 2020 22:16 (one month ago) link

“it’s an art not a science”

brimstead, Saturday, 23 May 2020 01:24 (one month ago) link

& variations thereof

brimstead, Saturday, 23 May 2020 01:24 (one month ago) link

I am a working scientist. Every month or so I get the urge to stand on a roof and scream "JUST BECAUSE YOU MEASURED SOMETHING DOESN'T MAKE IT SCIENCE" at Heston Blumenthal and every marketing consultant who uses a "fact about the brain" to shore up their buzzword bullshit, and every fucker who looks up something on the internet to support their argument and GIFs it with "SCIENCE". Fuck this bullshit. If you feel the need to announce it as SCIENCE it reliably shows you don't know what science is. Same goes for the chumps who think "scientifically proven" is a thing, it's not, it's the exact opposite of what science is. FUCK.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 23 May 2020 02:05 (one month ago) link

miss rona

groovemaaan, Saturday, 23 May 2020 04:23 (one month ago) link

our govt's speeches and press releases have the phrase "scientific advice" packed in wherever possible, and then some. I've started to hear it in the "SCIENCE!" way Matthew describes.

kinder, Saturday, 23 May 2020 08:35 (one month ago) link

pair it with the visuals and faux equations they do produce and it's like an Armando Iannucci pisstake

kinder, Saturday, 23 May 2020 08:37 (one month ago) link

Quite plainly a ploy to ensure scientists get stuck with the blame when investigations into the mishandling of this shitshow begin.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 May 2020 08:52 (one month ago) link

Science and magic are not interchangeable, not that you can tell people that

Alert! The virus lives (Matt #2), Saturday, 23 May 2020 09:07 (one month ago) link

The other abuse of “science” is imagining that a scientist’s opinion is “science” and then acting as if it’s some kind of guarantee. Even if you’ve asked other scientists whose opinions are not the one you wanted.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 23 May 2020 12:40 (one month ago) link

ooh and medical doctors imagining that their knowledge and training makes their opinion scientific, or that they are scientists. Some doctors are of course, but not because of their medical degree.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 23 May 2020 12:41 (one month ago) link

"Nasally" instead of "nasal". I started hearing this around 10 years ago or so and I have even seen it in a textbook at this point.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Saturday, 23 May 2020 12:57 (one month ago) link

xps I really need to get over myself

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 24 May 2020 03:57 (one month ago) link

no you're right, they're wrong

j., Sunday, 24 May 2020 04:10 (one month ago) link

The Grapes of Wrathfulness

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 11:37 (one month ago) link

"inflection point" instead of "turning point"

Sam Weller, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 08:32 (one month ago) link

just encountered 'evolvement'

mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 19:15 (one month ago) link

Like that pokemon had max evolvement?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 19:15 (one month ago) link

disenvolvument

pomenitul, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 19:16 (one month ago) link

swedish cars: what's inside

budo jeru, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 20:01 (one month ago) link

the new normal

fetter, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 20:21 (one month ago) link

A newer normal

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:53 (one month ago) link

Bill de Blasio’s terrible, horrible, no good, very bad week

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 8 June 2020 16:48 (one month ago) link

"mercury set to soar"

kinder, Saturday, 13 June 2020 09:36 (one month ago) link

"too good not to share", accompanying a supposedly hilarious/incisive meme

extra hate if it's followed by a crying with laughter emoji.

brain (krakow), Thursday, 25 June 2020 09:49 (two weeks ago) link

"Karen"

snakes & cookies (doo dah), Thursday, 25 June 2020 11:12 (two weeks ago) link

rest assured, "Karen" will soon pass away to the land of forgotten memes.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:28 (two weeks ago) link

Shovel-ready

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Monday, 29 June 2020 18:05 (two weeks ago) link

haven't heard that one since ARRA

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 04:14 (one week ago) link

"The 27 Club"

mirostones, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:10 (one week ago) link

"Whack a mole". Not entirely because of Boris Johnson, only 99% because of Boris Johnson.

Future England Captain (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 13:51 (one week ago) link

'straight-sized' people/bodies/clothing

panburger partner (unregistered), Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:53 (one week ago) link


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