“I take my responsibilities seriously. I did not lie” - UK politics June 23 on

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Have at it.

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Friday, 9 June 2023 21:51 (three months ago) link

rip are boris truly u were the people's cunt i wish u hadn't been murdered by the perfidious johnny eu

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 June 2023 22:30 (three months ago) link

‘he's a most notable coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise-breaker, the owner of no one good quality worthy your lordship's entertainment…’

yeah, but enough about Kieth.

calzino, Saturday, 10 June 2023 08:12 (three months ago) link

It's been heavily briefed already that The Times will back Labour, and with Boris Johnson resigning from parliament, Tony Gallagher hasn't the slightest reason to change course. https://t.co/0mlq6swyW8

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) June 10, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 June 2023 12:17 (three months ago) link

Some Tory MP and Boris brown-noser I've never heard of has just resigned "with immediate effect", so that's three by-elections to look forward to!

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 June 2023 13:05 (three months ago) link

Strange to think that these fuckers could well limp on for another 18 months, they seem like a placeholder government already

I question your commitment to the revolution (Matt #2), Saturday, 10 June 2023 13:27 (three months ago) link

I assume Dorries is just going down with her shit, she has several conversations with Boris yesterday (disclaimer: the source for this is almost certainly Dorries)

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 10 June 2023 13:48 (three months ago) link

going down with her shit

Can't tell if this is a typo or not.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Saturday, 10 June 2023 13:56 (three months ago) link

circling the drain

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 10 June 2023 14:55 (three months ago) link

every time I see the two main dead-eyed freakazoids of the Labour Party with ghastly voices talking up nothing as something I only feel anger + despair at how wretched they are. I don't feel any relief that the tories are knackered at all.

calzino, Saturday, 10 June 2023 21:44 (three months ago) link

Remembering how 'knackered' (in other words not really knackered at all) the Tories were just before the 1997 GE and comparing them to how knackered the Tories are now more than anything else shows how absolutely knackered Labour are now.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Sunday, 11 June 2023 08:45 (three months ago) link

last year I was chatting with old bloke who is a long time on/off Labour member who was disgusted with the Kinnock purges and first cancelled their membership over clause 4, but keeps going back to them on the rationale that they are the only vehicle for change and is too much of a party history geek to ever totally give up on them. He was a bit lukewarm and critical of Corbyn but not as hostile as yer average melts were at the time and gave me a telling off for dissing Kieth at the start of his leadership. But now he's really really glum about Kieth.

calzino, Sunday, 11 June 2023 10:18 (three months ago) link

if Starmer gets in it’s up to all of us to push him in the right direction, and i suspect that will have to come from outside the party. i mean he is a chickenshit with no principles so it’s not like he won’t change his mind for expediency. we just need to make the right moves expedient for him

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 11 June 2023 11:44 (three months ago) link

either that or get him on mic calling some old lady a bigot

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 11 June 2023 11:45 (three months ago) link

You're more likely to get some old lady on a mic calling him a bigot.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 June 2023 11:55 (three months ago) link

Police Scotland: A 52-year-old woman has been arrested as a suspect in connection with the investigation into the SNP's funding and finances.

Nicola Ferguson Sturgeon is a Scottish politician who served as First Minister of Scotland and Leader of the Scottish National Party from 2014 to 2023. Wikipedia
Born: 19 July 1970 (age 52 years), Ayrshire Central Hospital, Irvine.

Just sayin' like.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 June 2023 13:35 (three months ago) link

What!

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Sunday, 11 June 2023 13:45 (three months ago) link

Sorry Scots, looks like you'll be yoked to perfidious Albion for a while yet

darts macabre (Matt #2), Sunday, 11 June 2023 13:49 (three months ago) link

I blame that shifty husband of hers.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 June 2023 14:09 (three months ago) link

https://dkanut5j171nq.cloudfront.net/catalogue-images/ti104236.jpg

calzino, Sunday, 11 June 2023 14:35 (three months ago) link

Getting arrested or indicted is all the rage these days

StanM, Sunday, 11 June 2023 14:48 (three months ago) link

Given she posted her driving theory test yesterday, polis clearly thought she was a flight risk, hence the lifting

— Michael Scanlan is on MAB (@ScanlanWithAnA) June 11, 2023

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 June 2023 15:11 (three months ago) link

NEW: Seven hours after her arrest, Nicola Sturgeon has been released by police without charge. pic.twitter.com/Y541IJImwu

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) June 11, 2023

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 June 2023 17:01 (three months ago) link

IT'S ALMOST AS IF

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 June 2023 17:02 (three months ago) link

LOCK HER UP

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 11 June 2023 17:04 (three months ago) link

Last year I planned to take my own life. I saved up my antidepressants with a plan to overdose on them. I didn't tell anyone, my girlfriends found out and staged an intervention.
I reached out to my MP (and someone I consider a friend) @KirstySNP ahead of this debate. https://t.co/qS3GsFx9KI

— Heather Herbert (@HeatherHerbert_) June 13, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 10:47 (three months ago) link

Not sure where else to post this, but I am feeling a bit shat up about the attacks this morning: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-65887752

emil.y, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 13:31 (three months ago) link

that, and another incredibly bleak and depressing child murder as a result of chronically under-funded and over-stretched social services, thank you Tory Britain

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 13:46 (three months ago) link

twitter was not a good place to try and find any accurate reports about the carnage in Nottingham this morning. I had to scroll past hundreds of grotesque idiots linking it with asylum seekers and the French attack from last week.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:14 (three months ago) link

The only time I can find on the news reports is 4am, which strikes me as a very poor choice of time to do terrorism, so I'd be surprised if it did turn out to be a 'terror attack'. I think Neil S is more likely to be correct.

emil.y, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:59 (three months ago) link

also the judge that gave a 24 month sentence to someone with 3 kids, one of them disabled, in that abortion pill case is a total dick.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 15:27 (three months ago) link

I found the Nottingham incidents particularly difficult because:
a) my oldest friend died early this morning, very near to where one of the attacks occurred, and I was scared that the medical people were going to be delayed in reaching her (thankfully they weren’t).
b) someone else I know, who lives in the next street to where one of the attacks occurred, couldn’t sleep and took a night time walk down that very street, an hour before it all happened.
c) one of the streets that was sealed off was the same street where my oldest friend and I lived next door to each other, 40 years ago.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:48 (three months ago) link

sorry to hear that Mike, that's awful.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 06:27 (three months ago) link

yeah, horrible

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 09:30 (three months ago) link

Oh god, Mike, that's all terrible, I'm so sorry. In my friend group there was a lot of working out exactly where it all happened and who lived there and if everyone was alright yesterday, but that sounds so much more intense.

emil.y, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 14:05 (three months ago) link

It's horrible for you both. Horrible when the violence is so near. Sorry to hear it.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 14:18 (three months ago) link

My non-music job is as an informatics/analytics lead for a major London trust and I have seen many “AI” automation proposals. All of them have been staggeringly unworkable in almost every way, largely proposed by (albeit well-meaning) folk with no working knowledge of NHS data. https://t.co/qJyZVIomjg

— Phexioenesystems (@phxsys) June 14, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 16:04 (three months ago) link

I'd like to see old Boris wriggle his way out of this one!

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 15 June 2023 08:24 (three months ago) link

well at least our next likely PM is not an unprincipled, lying, adulterous piece of human garbage, lol

calzino, Thursday, 15 June 2023 08:29 (three months ago) link

Ouch, they've really done a number on the lying sack of shit.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 June 2023 08:54 (three months ago) link

Now endless videos and pics of him jogging.

nashwan, Thursday, 15 June 2023 09:06 (three months ago) link

Now endless videos and pics of him jogging.

nashwan, Thursday, 15 June 2023 09:06 (three months ago) link

Boris Johnson
Liberal, nuanced, cautious: is this the real Boris Johnson?

the Graun had his number right from the start of his premiership

calzino, Thursday, 15 June 2023 09:12 (three months ago) link

Now endless videos and pics of him jogging.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 15 June 2023 09:19 (three months ago) link

lol

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 June 2023 09:21 (three months ago) link

Jog on Jogson

nashwan, Thursday, 15 June 2023 09:29 (three months ago) link

An ok piece laying out our next crisis.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2023/jun/15/drought-is-on-the-verge-of-becoming-the-next-pandemic

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 June 2023 13:03 (three months ago) link

Pollster: 'Boris Johnson is more unpopular than Phillip Schofield or Xi Jinping'

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 June 2023 13:50 (three months ago) link

he's history's greatest monster

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 15 June 2023 13:56 (three months ago) link

Unless you're an equally conniving corrupt MP who is now free to act with impunity until the next time the press need a wicker man

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 June 2023 13:57 (three months ago) link

speaking of brexit, starmer is going to rescue us from the soylent green factories of sunak's broken britain:

Sir Keir Starmer has promised to seek a major rewrite of Britain’s Brexit deal in 2025 if the Labour party wins the next general election, saying he owes it to his children to rebuild relations with the EU.

Starmer told the Financial Times that he would put a closer trading relationship with Brussels and a new partnership with business at the heart of his efforts to bolster Britain’s economic growth.

Britain’s Trade and Cooperation Agreement with the EU, negotiated by former prime minister Boris Johnson, is due for review in 2025 and Starmer said he saw this as an “important” moment to reset relations.

“Almost everyone recognises the deal Johnson struck is not a good deal — it’s far too thin,” he said in an interview. “As we go into 2025 we will attempt to get a much better deal for the UK.”

he also goes on to say:

But Starmer said: “We have to make it work. That’s not a question of going back in. But I refuse to accept that we can’t make it work. I think about those future generations when I say that.

“I say that as a dad. I’ve got a 15-year-old boy and a 12-year-old girl. I’m not going to let them grow up in a world where all I’ve got to say to them about their future is, it’s going to be worse than it might otherwise have been. I’ve got an utter determination to make this work.”

speaking as a dad, your environment polices are going to ensure my daughter's future is short and miserable you fucking cunt

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2023 12:23 (six days ago) link

this is why it feels like it's not *just* a personal hobbyhorse. i get strong vibes that she represents interests

― whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 September 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Not sure really. She does represent interests and they backed a winner that turned into a loss in 40 days.

No idea why anyone would back her now.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 September 2023 12:56 (six days ago) link

her failure only proves the value of her radical ideas, which were so frightening to woke banks and financiers that they conspired to dethrone her before she could usher in a low-tax, low-regulation paradise

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2023 13:03 (six days ago) link

add your own (((meaningful parathenses))) around 'woke banks and financiers' there as you see fit

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2023 13:03 (six days ago) link

Yes, she can pull the old Russell Brand switcheroo.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Monday, 18 September 2023 13:08 (six days ago) link

The Blob got her.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Monday, 18 September 2023 13:10 (six days ago) link

tag yourself

https://i.imgur.com/nMVoyE4.png

mark s, Monday, 18 September 2023 13:34 (six days ago) link

Her book's called 'Ten Years To Save The Whit-I mean, West'. Don't threaten us with a good time etc.

nashwan, Monday, 18 September 2023 13:37 (six days ago) link

Members of the government were in fairly short supply at Truss's speech earlier - David Frost was about it, and he's not been in cabinet since they wound up DExEU. A few years ago you'd see cabinet members popup to any old coup, but either Sunak has a tighter grip on them or no-one really fancies the idea of accidentally getting into office just in time for a wipeout. I think occam's razor says that the traits that got her into this are the same ones that means she can't read the room. She's got a book out and Tory party conference is coming up - see if anyone gives her the time of day after that.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 18 September 2023 19:36 (six days ago) link

Really sad.

Private affluence, public squalor. Britain is becoming an ever more privatised, unequal, and impoverished country with crumbling and disappearing infrastructure and a shrunken culture and public realm—all so that the super rich can engage in dull lives of acquisitive banality. https://t.co/yCiL88fSzS

— Joe Guinan (@joecguinan) September 18, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 September 2023 21:45 (six days ago) link

Compensations paid, now this.

It's hard to overstate the significance of a police officer being charged with murder for a killing they committed on duty. Look at the notes at the end of this press release for details of how rare it is.https://t.co/LArVKFtiOj

— Dave (@MediocreDave) September 20, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 10:20 (four days ago) link

Good stuff

The president of Guyana swats away Richard Madeleys stupid question #GMB pic.twitter.com/dPCOukB702

— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) September 20, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 11:51 (four days ago) link

LOL @ Madeley trying desperately to keep up with the right wing arsehole zeitgeist.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 11:58 (four days ago) link

Really funny attempts at a Paxman impression.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 12:04 (four days ago) link

My God, this Sunak statement on Net Zero is utter garbage. And all because they didn't lose the Uxbridge by-election! UK = comedy country.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 15:40 (four days ago) link

kicking the can up the street again, proper leadership that

NickB, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 16:27 (four days ago) link

What he actually said was that he was putting the long term interests of the country before short term politics - which is the exact opposite of what he's doing! It's completely absurd.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 16:32 (four days ago) link

looking forward to the next general election being a bidding war for the votes of the nastiest, most short-sighted and ill-informed voters in the country

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 16:43 (four days ago) link

nah, those are all on the commons benches already afaict

NickB, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 16:57 (four days ago) link

I think only the last of these is actual national government policy right now? https://t.co/TQkEFlSKmJ

— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) September 20, 2023

...and you probably don't need reminding that the last one will create thousands of jobs, grants can be given to those less able to afford it, and it'll actually save people money in the longterm and keep poorer families warmer

NickB, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:35 (four days ago) link

honestly can't wait for this prick to die in a plane crash

NickB, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:36 (four days ago) link

Just missing 'or whatever it is now and the bins must only be male or female we will check' after 'seven different bins'

nashwan, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:45 (four days ago) link

lol i hadn't even read that Sunak tweet until you said that

amazing stuff

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:47 (four days ago) link

I wish I had seven different bins to sort my rubbish into tbh.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 18:03 (four days ago) link

First I've heard of the compulsory car sharing, good policy though! Expect Labour to denounce it forthwith, even though it doesn't exist.

the arkansas ruggerclub (Matt #2), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 18:18 (four days ago) link

I used to have a glass bin collection (well to be more accurate it was a box), it was great until the LA cut it because otherwise they'd have to close 4 disability centres ... tough decisions etc.. fuck all these people.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 18:24 (four days ago) link

Lads I need the car tomorrow OK? Good.

nashwan, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 18:31 (four days ago) link

This will be go down really well if there is the south east/west floods in the next year.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 21:17 (four days ago) link

The way the rain is coming down at the moment those floods might arrive sooner than you think.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 21:23 (four days ago) link

the thought did cross my mind that the miserable pissy rain might've had something to do with the timimg of this statement

NickB, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 21:25 (four days ago) link

All of this is so fucking evil

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 21 September 2023 08:12 (three days ago) link

I lie awake literally every night worrying about the planet my kids are going to grow up on and then shit like this happens.

lurch of england (ledge), Thursday, 21 September 2023 08:14 (three days ago) link

The way the rain is coming down at the moment those floods might arrive sooner than you think.

― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Imagine the lack of investment in infrastructure and a climate event combining to decimate SE England and crashing house prices?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 September 2023 09:16 (three days ago) link

It's all such extremely short-termist, penny-wise pound-foolish stuff, utterly transparent to anyone

Some of this could ostensibly be rowed back by a different government but pushing 100% EV sales back to 2035 probably could not be; you can't tell global car makers one date, then give them 5 years' breathing room, and then pull it back up to the original date

xpost I live in Stratford near the marshes so I'll be one of the first images on the 10 'clock news, waving down a helicopter from my roof

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 21 September 2023 09:39 (three days ago) link

They're so convinced that this is what the general hard working family public want too. Not exactly sure why. It's probably going to please the hardcore Tory headbangers in 5ge electorate but they're not going to win them an election

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 September 2023 09:43 (three days ago) link

Well the Daily Mail hailed it as FINALLY COMMON SENSE so that's someone pleased.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 21 September 2023 09:45 (three days ago) link

A summer full of catastrophic fires and floods all over the world seems to have resonated with people, just from the conversations I have with people at work. Plus anyone under 30? Forget it!

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 September 2023 09:45 (three days ago) link

(xp) Yes, the Telegraph love it... Sunak has gone from (net) zero to hero overnight.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 September 2023 09:50 (three days ago) link

What the UK does or doesn't do isn't a huge issue, to me. It's too small. China is adding huge amounts of renewables this year and some targets are being met. You can see other cities around Europe doing things too.

It's not enough but I suspect things will accelerate globally.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 September 2023 09:57 (three days ago) link

There is a kernel of underlying reality to all debates about climate policy - who shoulders the costs? And UK politics is built on two parties both happy to disproportionately lumber the poorest with this. Of course that doesn't mean that any chat from the parties about hard working families is done in good faith, quite the opposite. But any form of flat tax is regressive and it's ok to call it as such

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 September 2023 10:16 (three days ago) link

xp Yeah the manufacturers are furious about this, not least because Labour immediately said "no, that won't happen, we'll reverse that" (though we'll wait to see whether they'll stand on it)

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 21 September 2023 10:34 (three days ago) link

sunak was on radio 4 this morning talking about it, but as soon as i realised who it was i turned it off so i've no real idea if he said anything even vaguely convincing.

did find this though:
https://transact.westminster.gov.uk/env/streetreport.aspx?Street=Downing%20Street&USRN=8400071

it's quite obvious to me that he has people who put his bins out for him

koogs, Thursday, 21 September 2023 11:11 (three days ago) link

the four words i did hear him say was that the uk is doing more than anyone else already. british exceptionalism again...

koogs, Thursday, 21 September 2023 11:12 (three days ago) link

UK is the second biggest carbon emitter in Europe iirc

nashwan, Thursday, 21 September 2023 11:20 (three days ago) link

the pure daftness of allocating quanta of responsibility for global catastrophe to individual nation states should discount those arguments at source but people like to wrinkle their brows I guess

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 September 2023 11:34 (three days ago) link

really surprising to see all those good apples in the Met trying to subvert a murder trial

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 24 September 2023 17:33 (three hours ago) link

Not being able to legally execute young black men in broad daylight is the thin end of the wedge for them, where would it end?!

a man banging his head against several walls at once (Matt #2), Sunday, 24 September 2023 17:38 (three hours ago) link

the MoD have offered military support tho so the streets will stay safe

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 24 September 2023 17:45 (three hours ago) link

this all feels very liberal democracy

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 24 September 2023 17:46 (three hours ago) link


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