like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

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what's next for the plucky little kingdom?

mark s, Thursday, 7 July 2022 09:57 (one month ago) link

excellent work there in the last-minute rewrite, seems apt, fvck u

mark s, Thursday, 7 July 2022 09:58 (one month ago) link

"Halifax reports that house prices rose by 1.8% in June, the 12th consecutive monthly rise"

Let's see where we're at by the time this thread has died been locked.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 July 2022 10:08 (one month ago) link

Oh too slow, I was hoping to do a scromit reference

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 10:17 (one month ago) link

Wallace and Scromit

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 10:18 (one month ago) link

xyzzzz__
Posted: 7 July 2022 at 11:00:41
"A state led by Sunak, Gove or Truss with reforming zeal would be an unpleasant place to live. But it’s also damaging to be governed by intellectually deficient, personally ambitious, corrupt or simply uninterested ministers. Fewer ministers than ever care about their departments, as the internecine vortex of Westminster and dreams of a slot on Question Time suck in most of their attention. This has been especially true since 2016, though the problem is of longer gestation. It doesn’t entirely explain why Britain, after twelve years of Conservative government, is run-down, stagnant, expensive, underpaid, unequal, corrupt, socially fractured, backward-looking, hungry and fearful. But it doesn’t help. It will take far more than dislodging Johnson to change that."

https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2022/july/johnson-his-fall

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 10:18 (one month ago) link

Statement at 1

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 10:38 (one month ago) link

No 10 source: Boris Johnson will shortly make new appointments to his ministerial team 🤨

— PoliticsJOE (@PoliticsJOE_UK) July 7, 2022

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 10:38 (one month ago) link

Clowns getting back in the car

The Rt Hon Greg Clark MP @GregClarkMP has been appointed Secretary of State for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities @luhc. pic.twitter.com/UdfDgIlToo

— UK Prime Minister (@10DowningStreet) July 7, 2022

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 10:42 (one month ago) link

Cleverly gets Education - disastrous

nashwan, Thursday, 7 July 2022 10:48 (one month ago) link

(If you were playing chess, would you think that the UK or US had more freedom in next moves and why? I don't know how to play chess but am using it as an analogy anyway. This question might not be sufficiently focused or worth the effort to answer. Understood.)

youn, Thursday, 7 July 2022 10:48 (one month ago) link

Depends on what you mean by freedom in context youn

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 10:51 (one month ago) link

very sad that boris caved so quickly, couldn't even wait until they did all the procedural garbage to vote him out as tory leader next week

ufo, Thursday, 7 July 2022 10:53 (one month ago) link

These are cabinet appointments for, what, 6 weeks? There will have to be some kind of interim where there is pretend work. Really weird episode in ukpol.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 July 2022 10:56 (one month ago) link

(what could happen for the constituencies you care about as part of the nation as a whole, where a part could be understood to be equal to the whole, in terms of demographics; economics; stability, flexibilty, and maturity of institutions of government; secondarily political and economic security in a global context)

youn, Thursday, 7 July 2022 10:59 (one month ago) link

Sometimes it's difficult to keep up appearances. How influential and powerful were the two ministers who resigned and what did their resignation signify?

youn, Thursday, 7 July 2022 11:16 (one month ago) link

from an outsider's perspective:
things are likely to get dramatically worse in the US but it will likely be so blatantly illegitimate that there might be some chance of rupture for the better. though if that doesn't happen then it seems like things just devolve into a fascist hell, but it's going to be very unpredictable chaotic times.

doesn't appear much hope at all for the UK at all. johnson will likely be replaced by someone more effectively committed to evil and it will be presented as a clean break from the past decade of tory governance despite nothing fundamentally changing. labour are worthless and entirely focused on crushing their left and even if they win the next election it's unlikely much changes or gets better. a slow decline but will probably end up in a similar place to where the US is heading, just less dramatically and at a slower pace

ufo, Thursday, 7 July 2022 11:17 (one month ago) link

This just started

https://twitter.com/10downingstreet/status/1545006494273490945?s=21&t=o776M9Ak4axJuIorjps5TQ

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 11:27 (one month ago) link

You forget that the UK as currently constituted literally might cease to exist after October 2023. That's not going to happen in the US - unless a state or two decides to secede from the Union.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2022 11:29 (one month ago) link

(xp)

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2022 11:29 (one month ago) link

Man the next Tory contest will be so grim.

Doubt these questions will be asked, but they will have to face them.

A price cap of £3000 is so much more devastating than any of us realise. £3000 is mass defaults, arrears, restricted spending and wider economic spiralling. It’s homelessness, addiction, health, social isolation. For millions, it’s life or death. https://t.co/pSJvs6FhG0

— 𝐅𝐫𝐚𝐬𝐞𝐫 𝐒𝐭𝐞𝐰𝐚𝐫𝐭 🌻 (@fraserjfstewart) July 6, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 July 2022 11:35 (one month ago) link

boris merely recycling thru the feckless twerps left to him among tory mps to form the Farewell Cabinet when he could instead be appointing random members of the general public #smh what a tired loser

mark s, Thursday, 7 July 2022 11:37 (one month ago) link

How influential and powerful were the two ministers who resigned and what did their resignation signify?

Two?!

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Thursday, 7 July 2022 11:37 (one month ago) link

“Darwinian”

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 7 July 2022 11:38 (one month ago) link

INCREDIBLE SCENES

“THE BENNY HILL THEME TUNE” IS BEING BLASTED OUT ON SKY NEWS. pic.twitter.com/N06wBwcoZl

— Scott Bryan (@scottygb) July 7, 2022

StanM, Thursday, 7 July 2022 11:40 (one month ago) link

Youn is talking about Sunak and Javid. That did trigger a cascade of resignations of mostly junior ministers. Not sure how all of this was exactly coordinated xps to sic

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 July 2022 11:41 (one month ago) link

_How influential and powerful were the two ministers who resigned and what did their resignation signify?_

Two?!


Can you just leave her alone please.

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 11:43 (one month ago) link

Dying at Boris going “thems the breaks”, too bad he didn’t chuck a “y’all” on at the end. Absolutely no regret, what a piece of work.

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 11:45 (one month ago) link

Liz Truss, the foreign secretary, is cutting short a trip to Indonesia and returning to the UK, my colleague Jessica Elgot reports. Truss is one of the frontrunners in the contest to succeed Boris Johnson.

This feels like the option with the most potential for grim hilarity, from a distance.

(Fingers crossed as usual for Tom D.’s reference.)

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Thursday, 7 July 2022 11:46 (one month ago) link

(Sorry, I don't read UK news sources and only glanced through US coverage. Two does not entail not more than two if that was the reason for incredulous punctuation but would appreciate any clarification if you meant something else.)

youn, Thursday, 7 July 2022 11:52 (one month ago) link

Sometimes it's difficult to keep up appearances. How influential and powerful were the two ministers who resigned and what did their resignation signify?


Well Sunak was the Chancellor which is the second most powerful office of them all. Him resigning was a huge blow. Javid was also a Secretary of State, another senior role. A lot of the resignations have been made up by PPSes (parliamentary private secretaries) who are basically young/junior MPs who are being trained up for future ministerial roles. Every government department has a Secretary of State and a junior minister (sometimes more?) so that’s where all the numbers are coming from. But in terms of the two that started it all, it would be difficult to think of a worse omen than the chancellor walking. We don’t know if it was plotted formally but MPs have been unhappy with Johnson and they just lost 2 by elections (including one which is a safe seat) so the usual thing they do when their own futures are threatened is to knife the current leader and appoint a new one. There are more undertows: the chancellor walking will obviously oppose him to Johnson which is useful for picking up anti-Johnson votes in a leadership election. It puts the shits up undecided MPs who are wavering - is it better to jump or be pushed? That’s why Gove’s sssssacking is ssso funny. It means that possible leadership challengers who stay on and so lend legitimacy to an outgoing unpopular leader have that against them.

It should also be noted that Tory MPs love and use WhatsApp and are forever leaking chats to journalists, so we might see something from one of those that gives more insight.

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 11:54 (one month ago) link

(Sorry, I don't read UK news sources and only glanced through US coverage. Two does not entail not more than two if that was the reason for incredulous punctuation but would appreciate any clarification if you meant something else.)


Xyzzzz__ and I both know you meant the initial two, Javid & Sunak. No idea why sic decided that was a worthwhile contribution.

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 11:55 (one month ago) link

That’s why Gove’s sssssacking is ssso funny. It means that possible leadership challengers who stay on and so lend legitimacy to an outgoing unpopular leader have that against them.

I'm not sure I understand this. Gove told Johnson to resign (he has some Party authority to do this?); Johnson fired Gove from his cabinet post; then the effect on those for and against Johnson in the Party is what?

Sorry for asking an uncouth question that might not go down well among the British, but is it at all significant that the two ministers who started the revolt have Indian names and are presumably of Indian heritage? Do they represent a new position within the elite or a change in the elite?

youn, Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:09 (one month ago) link

_That’s why Gove’s sssssacking is ssso funny. It means that possible leadership challengers who stay on and so lend legitimacy to an outgoing unpopular leader have that against them._


I'm not sure I understand this. Gove told Johnson to resign (he has some Party authority to do this?); Johnson fired Gove from his cabinet post; then the effect on those for and against Johnson in the Party is what?

Sorry for asking an uncouth question that might not go down well among the British, but is it at all significant that the two ministers who started the revolt have Indian names and are presumably of Indian heritage? Do they represent a new position within the elite or a change in the elite?


_That’s why Gove’s sssssacking is ssso funny. It means that possible leadership challengers who stay on and so lend legitimacy to an outgoing unpopular leader have that against them._


I'm not sure I understand this. Gove told Johnson to resign (he has some Party authority to do this?); Johnson fired Gove from his cabinet post; then the effect on those for and against Johnson in the Party is what?

Sorry for asking an uncouth question that might not go down well among the British, but is it at all significant that the two ministers who started the revolt have Indian names and are presumably of Indian heritage? Do they represent a new position within the elite or a change in the elite?


It might be my writing. I mean that Gove’s sacking is funny because he was clearly holding it over Johnson’s head to resign with and then Johnson sacked him anyway.

Gove is also a senior MP who has held various roles in cabinet since 2010; he also used to write for the Times and is so in good favour with Rupert Murdoch, who really calls the shots with the Tories. Gove is a big enough name that his resignation would have triggered off even more and increased the pressure on Boris.

I’m not best placed to comment on the ethnic backgrounds on Javid and Sunak in that context so I’ll leave it to others.

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:16 (one month ago) link

gove's authority isn't so much *within the party* (tho he does have some seniority there) as that (as gyac says) he has rupert murdoch's ear and approval and (until recently) was being fitted for highest office as murdoch's catspaw

johnson's authority for sacking gove is that (a) as PM he can and (b) literally everyone in the party detests gove and his star has lately somewhat fallen with murdoch

mark s, Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:20 (one month ago) link

(probably xps: One of the most gleefully wondrous thing about this imbroglio is that over 50 ministers have now resigned, and that the resignations have been so backed up that some continued to roll out in the hour after it became apparent that Boris was going to go — three weeks after he passed a vote of no confidence from the same ministers. {I’ve seen it reported that the previous record for resignations in 24 hours was in the 1930s, and the number was six.} I was expressing delight at the fact that this accelerating snowball of ejectees made it impossible to know which two you were referring to: comrade alph’s annotation makes sense now, but I initially read it as meaning “the latest two,” which was essentially a moving target.)

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:20 (one month ago) link

Sunak was Head Boy at Winchester, he's about as establishment as its possible to get, no matter his ethnicity. Javid is slightly different but city boy wankers often have more diverse backgrounds.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:20 (one month ago) link

xp I literally don’t care; I saw it as continuation of behaviour you were picked up on in another thread. You’re not even a regular here, feel free to pipe down and we’ll answer any questions people have, ok?

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:22 (one month ago) link

in any case it's not 50 ministers that have resigned, a PPS is not a minister.

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:23 (one month ago) link

Sunak was Head Boy at Winchester, he's about as establishment as its possible to get, no matter his ethnicity. Javid is slightly different but city boy wankers often have more diverse backgrounds.


Yeah you see a lot of that - people who make good money in the City can come from any background and because of their monetary interests they do tend to be Tories.

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:24 (one month ago) link

Sorry for asking an uncouth question that might not go down well among the British, but is it at all significant that the two ministers who started the revolt have Indian names and are presumably of Indian heritage? Do they represent a new position within the elite or a change in the elite?

Sunak's British-Indian, Javid's British Pakistani. The former is probably less of a bar to being Prime Minister than the latter. I don't think it's particularly significant that it was them that started the revolt but arguably might be if they both saw it as an opportunity for a shot at the top job.

What's absolutely true is that the Tories have a much more diverse pool of plausible and semi-plausible leaders than Labour does, including several British Indian MPs (Sunak, Patel, Braverman), British-Iranian, British Iraqi, descendants of Czech Jewish refugees, etc, than Labour's likely to offer any time soon.

There are lots of reasons for that - one that's been true since Thatcher has been the rise of the commercial, 'merchant class' as a dominant force in the Tory party. You can probably think of Cameron and Johnson as partial reversions to landed gentry types, but it's the party of business more than anything else and business is more diverse now than the more traditional Establishment. It's partly because they recognise the need for a broader coalition of voters unless they're going to give up on cities altogether - there has been aggressive targeting of the British Indian vote over the last 15 years, etc. It's also partly because the press will go a lot lighter on a Tory from a Muslim background (say, Javid or Zahawi) than they will on a Labour figure (Sadiq Khan, etc).

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:28 (one month ago) link

you've seen this more with priti patel as home secretary but party and govt have definitely exploited ethnicity to defuse charges of racism ("how can she possibly be racist? in my opinion it's actually racist to suggest that she's racist"): which is nonsense but does now and then wrongfoot the more mealymouthed within liberal commentariat

sunak and javid being presentable as self-made wealth (as opposed to being from the red-faced doughy ranks of third-tier failsons that continue to make up so much of the party) i think supplies a kind of symbolic business-class capable authenticity which certainly impresses some

mark s, Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:34 (one month ago) link

i think i'm slightly eliding javid's self-madeness with zahawi's self-madeness there: javid made his name more with within banking than business -- but the aura of "business-heads know" isn't very different (given that it's pure culture-war nonsense anyway)

mark s, Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:38 (one month ago) link

In the cesspools of twitter I have seen various Boris ultras livid at the notion that Sunak, Javid, Patel, Braverman (or even Tugendhat!) might succeed their boy.

Depressingly, Labour is further than ever from ever having a non-white bloke as leader.

Piedie Gimbel, Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:40 (one month ago) link

(Thanks! The dynamics of party revolts outside the US are interesting. We don't have that. The media influence/insider status/personal relationships and change in party demographics are fascinating.)

youn, Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:41 (one month ago) link

Forgetting that Sunak is another city boy wanker, albeit also an Old Wykehamist.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:41 (one month ago) link

Xpost

With this in mind slightly surprised that Crosby, who seems to pride himself on being in touch with the average angry gammon, seems to have anointed Zahawi...

Piedie Gimbel, Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:44 (one month ago) link

I have wondered whether any non-white Tory leader would depress their vote in an election.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:45 (one month ago) link

You could certainly imagine an attempted dog whistle labour campaign against one.

Piedie Gimbel, Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:47 (one month ago) link

I think it almost certainly would.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:48 (one month ago) link

Also the problem of Jack Monroe is that her food is basically budget cooking for white people, and kind of erases Asian families who have nailed surviving on cheap recipes via dhal and rice etc.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Thursday, 11 August 2022 20:22 (five days ago) link

yes that is a very good point suzy

calzino, Thursday, 11 August 2022 20:23 (five days ago) link

and it's just basically extremely unhealthy and garbage cooking advice

calzino, Thursday, 11 August 2022 20:27 (five days ago) link

there are so many more gastronomically superior and healthier ways to survive being poor on a low budget, but she's stuck on poor are too thick to do learn basic cooking skills

calzino, Thursday, 11 August 2022 20:33 (five days ago) link

but let's just help normalise foodbanks and give them awful recipes that will kill them in the long run. This shit really boils my blood.

calzino, Thursday, 11 August 2022 20:39 (five days ago) link

OTM to the max.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:41 (five days ago) link

I've got a few of her recipe books - they're not short of curries, rice, daals - for exactly that reason

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:25 (four days ago) link

well that spaghetti hoops monstrosity I saw needs deleting from an abridged version with only the legit recipes that won't be detrimental to your physical and mental health, because it's not only unwholesome garbage it's also an affront to human dignity. Being on Universal Credit is already enough to destroy your will to live, no need to make it worse by making inadequate nutrition seem an acceptable long term option for living.

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 06:34 (four days ago) link

i really do think the tories are fucking it

‘Liz Truss defends energy firms saying profit is not evil’

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62513966

Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 August 2022 08:40 (four days ago) link

Reeves says they’d bring pre-payment bills in line w/ direct debit to ensure “no one pays over the odds for the same gas & electricity”

It’d cost £113m Oct-March

They’d reimburse energy firms using £ raised by fixing HMG’s windfall tax

I think my direct debit is just as much as a fucking I'd get with a pre-payment meter so they are already in line. It's plain to see from the costing that it isn't a serious proposal. The government will come up with something more ambitious than that and it won't be up to the scale of the crisis either. Aiming lower than an austerity government isn't fiscally responsible - it's just a worthless dereliction of opposition. Fucking joke party.

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 08:51 (four days ago) link

Everything is just so careful about proposals (what does "over the odds mean"). Now I don't care for Mario Draghi, but no technocrat/politician has ever said "whatever it takes", and that statement was to calm the financial markets lol.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2022 08:57 (four days ago) link

Ofgem raising the definition of what "over the odds" is every couple of months doesn't seem to concern Reeves too much

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 09:05 (four days ago) link

Cons and Lab are in pretty much the same place. They don't care to know how people struggle, this is the world they've made and as it falls apart they will be least equipped to make the necessary changes. They'll be forced to do the min on a day-to-day basis.

At least the Cons enrich themselves and loot the public purse and know how to enjoy themselves. Starmer is just a fucking nerd.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2022 09:22 (four days ago) link

Even Guardian writers are turning into shitposters with his disappearance from public life.

If your house was on fire, Keir Starmer would give you a bottle of water.

— Frances Ryan (@DrFrancesRyan) August 12, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2022 09:23 (four days ago) link

lol yeah. I'm delighted Dr Francis has turned against Kieth. I like her a lot but found it distressing when she was stanning for him.

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 09:28 (four days ago) link

A knock-on effect of their uselessness is an almost complete lack of serious discussion about what the parameters for action are. Brown’s intervention last week is probably the closest anyone’s come to making a constructive suggestion but even that was pretty vague. Would the government negotiating energy prices make a difference? Would taking the retail element into public ownership? Can you impose windfall taxes on electricity producers legally? Can producers be compelled to sell energy below cost price?

Labour engaging seriously, even to oppose proposals, would at least be vaguely informative.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 12 August 2022 09:37 (four days ago) link

They've got a cheek criticizing Johnson for disappearing when Starmer's been equally as mute and invisible.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Friday, 12 August 2022 09:41 (four days ago) link

I think even Brown might have gone a bit further and more detailed if he wasn't carefully trying not to embarrass Kieth. His shadow cabinet is mostly garbage as well but he has that same dampening effect on them as well.

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 09:52 (four days ago) link

media has to step in and outline what’s possible if politicians won’t, and they have to illustrate the tough choices people face, and tbf the bbc has been doing some of this (which i think shows just how bad things have gotten)

Which countries are doing the most to tackle energy bills? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/61522123

or

People can't wait for energy help - Citizens Advice https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62509970

Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 August 2022 09:55 (four days ago) link

I rang up British Gas to try and persuade them to lower my direct debit, just as a one off until there is more money in my bank. The call centre guy couldn't do it and was quite brusque with me. I was thinking fair enough it was probably the 50th call they'd taken like this, but I was quite angry and thinking fuck their bosses and fuck all the execs and shareholders etc.... And then a couple hours later I got a text from them: Just a few quick questions. First, how likely are you to recommend us?

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 10:15 (four days ago) link

lmaooooo

Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 August 2022 10:23 (four days ago) link

I’m with EDF and they’ve been after me for a meter read since the end of June. My meter is read every three months on the 15th (so due NEXT WEEK) so they can GTFO. The letters get more and more bellicose despite being plain wrong. I don’t do direct debits with energy suppliers and I am very lucky to have central heating and hot water included in my rent, where the service charge is roughly £30/month.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Friday, 12 August 2022 10:45 (four days ago) link

And yet they plaster every email and their website with "if you're having trouble paying please talk to us"

just meaningless PR blather

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 August 2022 10:47 (four days ago) link

i’m with ecotricity and weirdly i am now in credit. my bill last month was less than £100 for gas and electricity together.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 August 2022 11:24 (four days ago) link

Those with the least shouldn’t pay more to heat their homes and turn on their lights.

But under the Tories, they do.

Labour would end energy prepayment premiums, giving 4m households relief on bills.

This is part of our energy package to tackle the cost of living crisis.

— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) August 12, 2022



comments pointing out that this works out as an 18p saving per day - which would then be paid as tax back to the energy companies!

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 12 August 2022 11:34 (four days ago) link

xp

mine, for both gas and electricity is £242 a month, whereas it was previously £118. I was seriously thinking about linking out my electric meter, but there is an anti tamper seal that I fear if I cut it then I might be in serious legal trouble, perhaps even the doing time variety!

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 11:37 (four days ago) link

I'm with Scottish Power and they reduced my DD earlier this year because I was in credit, now I owe them £300+.

even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Friday, 12 August 2022 11:40 (four days ago) link

Truss: "No solar panels, I want to see fields of fruit and veg"

Alarming effects of dry weather on food production. pic.twitter.com/cI9TTX4EPx

— Dave (@MediocreDave) August 12, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2022 11:40 (four days ago) link

We have spent so many years here documenting the failures of politics and now we are seeing the effects.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2022 11:43 (four days ago) link

yeah but have u considered that the civil service are woke antisemites tho

This is the most unhinged thing I’ve seen from Liz Truss on the campaign and that’s a high bar: pic.twitter.com/7Ael8SYpTU

— William Kedjanyi (@KeejayOV3) August 12, 2022

built like a kit malthouse (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 August 2022 11:45 (four days ago) link

Food inflation is going to rocket up because of this drought. Blaming it on Russia won't be enough if there is no food on the plate.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2022 11:55 (four days ago) link

we're rapidly approaching german levels of "all antiracism is antisemitism" at this point xp

(also is there anything more embarrassing than british people inveighing against "wokeness"?)

Left, Friday, 12 August 2022 12:06 (four days ago) link

I shouldn't but I find it quaint and gently amusing and a nice easy shibboleth to identify fuckwits and scum

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 August 2022 12:14 (four days ago) link

The essential Jewish value of being a business owner pic.twitter.com/JNrTJZXqn3

— jewdⒶs // ייִדהודה (@jewdas) August 12, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2022 12:53 (four days ago) link

liz added: happymerchant.jpg

built like a kit malthouse (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 August 2022 13:04 (four days ago) link

Subtext: unlike those feckless untrustworthy Muslims who keep voting Labour.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Friday, 12 August 2022 18:58 (four days ago) link

who also are also hated by Starmer's campaign team for deciding not to vote Labour in a byelection as a protest against the rampant and unchecked Islamophobia in the party. They just can't win really.

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:17 (four days ago) link

Oh sorry I meant to say they didn't vote Labour cos of their inherent Antisemitism

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:19 (four days ago) link

Lol

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link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 14 August 2022 20:25 (two days ago) link

i'm waiting for the one organised by @GritishBas

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 August 2022 20:39 (two days ago) link

rescue brian

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 14 August 2022 20:43 (two days ago) link

couldn't deal with all the angst of NOT PAYING. Like fantastic, now I'm 2 grand in debt rather than the current £190 and it's spiralling on and on the longer I don't pay it. Got more than enough stress in my life already.

calzino, Sunday, 14 August 2022 22:30 (two days ago) link

It feels like Keir Starmer is working for the energy companies and this can be easily explained, with some research it shows he hasn't be totally honest about his conflicts of interest pic.twitter.com/xabCXuZOoy

— Jonny Mao (@JonnyMao) August 15, 2022

"we asked a director at one of the major energy companies what his position on nationalising energy was.. and he said it was an ideological position to take and not the correct solution."

calzino, Monday, 15 August 2022 11:47 (yesterday) link

obv a fake but a fake that is absolutely true!

calzino, Monday, 15 August 2022 12:02 (yesterday) link

They'll be lobbied to shit.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 August 2022 12:21 (yesterday) link

More debt great

Interest-free loans to be rolled out in UK to help with food bills https://t.co/Cz7lDboPBt

— Guardian news (@guardiannews) August 15, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 09:38 (five hours ago) link

ok as a one-off solution to people in desperate circumstances, but like with UC advances, the debt is carried on to the next month - then back to square one but even more skint.

calzino, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 09:43 (five hours ago) link


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