The Fall of Roe v Wade: US Politics, June 2022

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I'm thinking that ILX will not observe a moment of silence.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 17:10 (one month ago) link

Slow Burn have just started a new series based on the Roe v Wade case. I'm just listening to the first episode.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 18:06 (one month ago) link

what a world we live in

Jesus Christ https://t.co/xuu2SYX5MQ

— Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz) June 1, 2022

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 20:07 (one month ago) link

I mean

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 20:24 (one month ago) link

I'd take issue with "not really political" but these two tweets get at *something*

I've been dreading this ambient crystallization of forces for years, and it's really coming together. A kind of super right-wing that's not really political, but a disparate group united by misogyny, transphobia, racism and, crucially, the equation of criticism with censorship.

— Ashley Clark (@_Ash_Clark) June 1, 2022

As @yu_whoooo said years ago, in a Tweet that I copied and pasted for future reference: "The right is diversifying quicker than liberals have the language for". We're in a nihilistic troll economy with brutal real-life effects. pic.twitter.com/eupfIsDjBk

— Ashley Clark (@_Ash_Clark) June 1, 2022

"alt-right" as a term was trying to capture this with its roots in gamergate. You could say it's simply the continuation of movement conservatism or white supremacy or colonialism or the patriarchy or all the above and of course you'd be right, but idk, there is something about the combo of nihilism and fervent, vicious belief in those things and the attendant impunity for supporting them that still manages to catch me off guard

rob, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 20:34 (one month ago) link

not the right thread since this is extremely global though

rob, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 20:35 (one month ago) link

in other news-

The GOP’s bid to thwart the Medicaid initiative in South Dakota adds to a series of moves by the party to weaken direct democracy. In many states that Republicans dominate, progressive organizers have successfully appealed to voters with measures like Medicaid expansion that conservative legislatures have blocked, triggering intense backlash by Republican politicians against procedures of direct democracy that they are failing to control. In Idaho and Utah, the GOP’s new restrictions on ballot initiatives also closely followed Medicaid referendums.

The erosion of direct democracy resonates deeply in South Dakota, which was the first state in the nation to set-up a popular initiative process. Inspired by Progressive Era demands for new checks on politicians, the state’s 1898 reform empowered ordinary citizens to initiate ballot initiatives and it has been used expansively ever since.

Just over the past decade, South Dakotans have approved initiatives to raise the minimum wage, create an independent ethics commission, and legalize cannabis.

Republican politicians have responded by gradually restricting the initiative process. In 2016, voters adopted the South Dakota Accountability and Anti-Corruption Act, which set new ethics rules and created a system for public financing of political campaigns. Republican politicians repealed the measure, arguing that voters didn’t understand what was in it when they passed it.

https://boltsmag.org/amendment-c-south-dakota-medicaid/?utm_campaign=wp_the_trailer&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_thetrailer#.YpWR_sgyPhc.twitter

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 23:43 (one month ago) link

Republican politicians repealed the measure, arguing that voters didn’t understand what was in it when they passed it.

Republicans suddenly concerned about the intelligence of voters.

Also predictable: I clicked a link in that article which lead to a NYT piece "South Dakota Legislators Seek Hasty Repeal of Ethics Law Voters Passed." Of course, it was actually South Dakota Republican legislators. But hey, why name names? (Yes, the body of the article clarifies, but still.)

blatherskite, Thursday, 2 June 2022 00:34 (one month ago) link

Kyle Rittenhouse says the Johnny Depp verdict has motivated him to start filing his own defamation lawsuits. pic.twitter.com/fw6RbXnSHW

— Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) June 1, 2022

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 June 2022 16:43 (one month ago) link

Don't know what the opinion is around here of Brynn Tannehill. She's definitely doomy (literal Twitter tag is "Harbinger of doom"), but plenty smart. Anyway, nothing about this tweet thread is surprising but it ain't heartwarming either.

I have a friend, whose husband is a retired Marine special forces guy. He spent better part of a year at the siege of Khe Sanh. After he retired, he was a police officer (SWAT) and medical first responder. He's vaguely
conservative on some things, but not nuts. 1/n

— Brynn Tannehill (@BrynnTannehill) June 1, 2022

"I remember when me and Cornpop used to shoot cans off our fence with a .22. You don't need an RA-15 to shoot cans, my friend."

life is a highway to the danger zone (PBKR), Thursday, 2 June 2022 22:53 (one month ago) link

Yang takes brainless centrism to its logical end, gets burned by John Legend.

Thinking about this amazing tweet this morning pic.twitter.com/N1BTHgSJqW

— Daniel Kuehn (@D_Kuehn) June 2, 2022

lol

Dan S, Thursday, 2 June 2022 23:41 (one month ago) link

hard-hitting Washington Post piece on Susan Collins, hitting the press. I have a feeling this article is going to ruffle some feathers in Washington. There are two eras - before and after this article. Defcon 1.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/02/susan-collins-supreme-court-kavanaugh-truth/

get ready to dip your toes in this excerpt of molten, red hot journalism

Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) has never been known for being angry, or animated, or really any adjective more charged than “concerned.” Once or twice, she has gone so far as to declare herself “disappointed.”

You might imagine, nonetheless, that the leaked draft of a Supreme Court opinion overturning Roe v. Wade would have been enough to expand her measured vocabulary. You’d be wrong.

“If this … is the final decision and this reporting is accurate, it would be completely inconsistent with what Justice Gorsuch and Justice Kavanaugh said in their hearings and in our meetings in my office,” said the statement the senator released after the story broke. “Obviously, we won’t know each Justice’s decision and reasoning until the Supreme Court officially announces its opinion in this case.”

This is about as fiery as it gets for a fifth-term moderate dedicated, above all else, to dealmaking and decorum. By comparison, Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), hardly hot-tempered, said the opinion “rocks my confidence in the court right now.”

All the same, you have to wonder whether Collins is less serene under the surface.

She made a spectacular bet on Brett M. Kavanaugh during his nomination hearings in 2018: saying that she believed him when he said that Roe was settled law — much like the bet she made on Neil M. Gorsuch in 2017 when he said precedent was “the anchor of the law.”

These justices, of course, might yet come through for Collins by the time the court finally rules — even if only to preserve some portion of the precedent that has enshrined the right to abortion for almost half a century. But the February draft that has much of the nation on fire boasted five conservative votes to bulldoze the rulings that have defined the status quo for decades.

(Section Break)

Susan Collins is as neat as her tailored skirt sets and monogrammed suitcase. She shows up early, shakes every hand, knows every name. She studies, and studies, and studies some more. She might not need to work this hard, and yet she does anyway. In politics, seasons and tastes change — but a fourth-generation Maine politician might be one of the few people in either party who doesn’t have to worry about them changing very much.

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Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 2 June 2022 23:43 (one month ago) link

jesus

Molly Roberts can fuck right off

Dan S, Thursday, 2 June 2022 23:53 (one month ago) link

why are we still drowning in this shit

Dan S, Thursday, 2 June 2022 23:56 (one month ago) link

that is a great video

Dan S, Friday, 3 June 2022 00:39 (four weeks ago) link

even the corny dance sequences in the alley

Dan S, Friday, 3 June 2022 00:43 (four weeks ago) link

sorry that is off topic

Dan S, Friday, 3 June 2022 00:49 (four weeks ago) link

Jesus that Tannehill thread is depressing, but after being forced to spend time with my Trumper uncle and cousin, both EMTs, over the holiday weekend, I buy absolutely every word.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 June 2022 15:21 (four weeks ago) link

And they always repeat what they said a second time after you tell them the truth.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 3 June 2022 15:30 (four weeks ago) link

here is a second opinion on how susan collins mysteriously ended up voting for supreme court justices that everyone knew were lying

When the Supreme Court’s draft decision to overturn Roe v. Wade leaked, Sen. Susan Collins said she was flabbergasted, deeply troubled, even shocked. After all, soon-to-be-Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh had promised her in 2018 that Roe was a matter of settled law — despite his deeply conservative track record on abortion.

Turns out, Collins wasn’t just wrong about Kavanaugh. She was deliberately manipulated by Trump administration officials — and a future Supreme Court Justice — who viewed her as an easy mark.

Two former senior Trump White House officials tell Rolling Stone that the pro-choice Collins wasn’t even considered a serious threat to the devoutly conservative Kavanaugh. Instead, the team predicted she’d need only a vague assurance that the nominee would uphold the half-century-old ruling defending abortion rights.

And they were right.

“The thinking from Trump … and everybody else who worked to make this happen was that, as long as his nominees didn’t say anything stupid [on abortion] and let the Susan Collins-es of the world think what they needed to think and hear what they needed to hear, then it would get done,” said one of the ex-officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the team’s hearing preparations.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/abortion-susan-collins-brett-kavanaugh-trump-roe-1357183/

weird, this seems to contrast with the Washington Post version where Susan Collins is a hero and she was lied to and she is going to have to straighten her back and stand tall and listen really hard and just be braver and prouder after that one if she's going to deserve that 2143rd 6-year term as much as we want her to deserve it, let's go Susan!!!

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 June 2022 15:31 (four weeks ago) link

susan collins is a good leader

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 June 2022 15:32 (four weeks ago) link

Adding this to the list of good stuff he’s done

Biden responds to @elonmusk cutting production/staff listing companies expanding production. "Lots of luck on his trip to the moon, I guess," he said.

— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) June 3, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 June 2022 15:36 (four weeks ago) link

hey, that's pretty fun as far as Biden joeks go

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 June 2022 15:40 (four weeks ago) link

it's a good burn from biden

this article's fun

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/02/politics/joe-biden-messaging-struggles/index.html

(Covid News Network (CNN))Being familiar never makes the feeling less dreadful: White House aides emailing each other during one of President Joe Biden's stops on the road, tracking who's covering what he's saying, which TV channels are taking the speech live -- and realizing a number of times that the answer was none.

"You are thinking," said one person familiar, "why are we doing this?"

Biden and his inner circle get weekly readouts of the metrics on local newspaper coverage of his speeches, how long and for what he was covered on cable, but also videos that staff post on Twitter and other social media interactions. Those reports go on the piles with internal memos from pollsters saying Biden isn't breaking through in traditional news outlets and that the people who are engaged are mostly voters who've already made up their minds.

But beneath this struggle to break through is a deeper dysfunction calcified among aides who largely started working together only through Zoom screens and still struggle to get in rhythm. They're still finding it hard to grasp how much their political standing has changed over the last year, and there's a divide between most of the White House staff and the inner circle who have been around Biden for longer than most of the rest of that staff has been alive. In an email to CNN, White House spokesman Andrew Bates said, "That is not the dynamic in the White House."

At the center is a president still trying to calibrate himself to the office. The country is pulling itself apart, pandemic infections keep coming, inflation keeps rising, a new crisis on top of new crisis arrives daily and Biden can't see a way to address that while also being the looser, happier, more sympathetic, lovingly Onion-parody inspiring, aviator-wearing, vanilla chip cone-licking guy -- an image that was the core of why he got elected in the first place.
"He has to speak to very serious things," explained one White House aide, "and you can't do that getting ice cream."

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They'll say he's answering reporters' questions whenever he's asked, while nixing interview requests to avoid the hours of prep and possible clean-up. They'll acknowledge that Biden himself feels shut off enough that he's quietly had a half-dozen sessions with favored writers since the fall, like last month's lunch with the New York Times' Tom Friedman, in which the columnist shared his own impressions of Biden's off-the-record thoughts, with only the tuna sandwich, fruit bowl and milkshake approved for publication.

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 June 2022 15:45 (four weeks ago) link

only the tuna sandwich, fruit bowl and milkshake approved for publication.

i haven't drank in 20 days now, but this makes me want to go harry nilsson 1975

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 June 2022 15:47 (four weeks ago) link

“You put the tuna sandwich in the fruit bowl milkshake…”

THE VEIVET UIUERABOUIU (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 3 June 2022 16:36 (four weeks ago) link

imagine being in a room with a tuna sandwich and Tom Friedman's hot air.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 June 2022 16:39 (four weeks ago) link

the mind of joe biden is on a ride now, a passenger on a comfortable food journey that he no longer controls so much as influences

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 June 2022 16:42 (four weeks ago) link

someone mentions that retirement companies are going to allow people to put 20% of their income directly into crypto retirement accounts.

joe biden blinks. all of his aides are on zoom, muted.

joe biden tears into his tuna sandwich with renewed vigor

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 June 2022 16:45 (four weeks ago) link

what the fuck

“It’s inappropriate to ... subsidize political activism of a private corporation.”

— Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) defends vetoing funds for a Tampa Bay Rays practice facility after the team tweeted about gun control pic.twitter.com/8owFo7G1A8

— The Recount (@therecount) June 3, 2022

frogbs, Friday, 3 June 2022 17:28 (four weeks ago) link

if incoherent ranting about "woke capitalism" puts an end to using public funds for sports bullshit...hooray?

rob, Friday, 3 June 2022 17:33 (four weeks ago) link

Some good news:

Univision is selling many of its Spanish-language radio stations — including Miami's ultraconservative Radio Mambí — to a group led by Democrats.
Creating a beachhead in a broadcast market often dominated by conservative or right-wing programming, a newly formed, Latino-owned and bipartisan media group is announcing Friday it has purchased 18 major Spanish-language radio stations owned by the TelevisaUnivision network — including Miami's Radio Mambí.

WLRN has learned that the Latino Media Network, or LMN — headed by Stephanie Valencia, a Latino community outreach director for former President Barack Obama, and Democratic activist Jessica Morales Rocketto — has bought the stations for $60 million.

The AM and FM stations are located in 10 of the country's largest Latino markets, including Miami, New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Dallas, San Francisco, Houston and Las Vegas.

LMN says it has secured financing from "leading Latino investors" as well as Lakestar Finance, an investment group associated with businessman-philanthropist George Soros.

Other prominent LMN investors and advisers include Hollywood actress Eva Longoria, former Florida Republican Party chair Al Cárdenas, former Miami-Dade College President Eduardo Padrón and radio entrepreneur Tom Castro.

The purchase comes amid years of accusations that Spanish-language radio, especially in Miami, has become one of the most prominent sources of right-wing disinformation in the U.S.

Democrats have long chafed at much of it, particularly in 2020 when talk show hosts at stations like Mambí labeled then-presidential candidate Joe Biden a "socialista" who would turn the U.S. into a left-wing dictatorship like Venezuela's.

But until now, Democrats and Latino liberals and moderates had focused their efforts and resources on monitoring Spanish-language radio outlets instead of trying to own stations themselves.

https://www.wlrn.org/news/2022-06-03/a-new-latino-media-group-is-buying-up-and-shaking-up-spanish-language-radio

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 June 2022 17:36 (four weeks ago) link

The ripple effect from that alone could be legitimately huge.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 3 June 2022 18:23 (four weeks ago) link

It's hard to explain how big AM radio is in Miami even for men and women you'd think are too young to listen.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 June 2022 18:33 (four weeks ago) link

“It’s inappropriate to ... subsidize political activism of a private corporation.”

Gov. DeSantis, Hobby Lobby is on line one. Chik-Fil-A is on line Two. They'd like a talk with you.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 3 June 2022 18:40 (four weeks ago) link

Condemning homosexuals isn't political activism. BEING a homosexual is!

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Friday, 3 June 2022 19:12 (four weeks ago) link

“It’s inappropriate to ... subsidize political activism of a private corporation.”

sometimes i'll just lean my head back at my desk and daydream about a politician or party that would have the balls to say something like this in the interest of doing something actually good. silly, i know. but what would that look like. would people like it? would cable news give it much air? would Claire McCaskill or David Axelrod come on to tell us that this is Bad, Actually?

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Friday, 3 June 2022 19:22 (four weeks ago) link

there's been an influx of competition in the past few years, but i think this joker is still the dumbest guy in congress

Rep Louie Gohmert on Navarro indictment: "If you're a Republican, you can't even lie to Congress or lie to an FBI agent or they're coming after you" pic.twitter.com/8eIkkycukd

— Jason Campbell (@JasonSCampbell) June 3, 2022

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 June 2022 20:09 (four weeks ago) link

Well I mean that does violate the holy writ of IOKIYAR. Sad times.

"If you're a Republican, you can't even skip two to ten years of paying taxes or the IRS comes after you, it ain't fair!"

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 June 2022 20:13 (four weeks ago) link

""South Dakota Legislators Seek Hasty Repeal of Ethics Law Voters Passed." Of course, it was actually South Dakota Republican legislators"

I was just in SD for the past week and if there is a non-republican state legislator, I'd like to know, because that place is 100% non stop Republican candidate advertising across the board. On top of that, from what I can tell, they don't even mail out voter information packets, which I cannot believe. My mother said "oh in california we'd get a booklet that told us what we were voting on" and I said "uh, yeah?" she's never received one.

akm, Friday, 3 June 2022 21:16 (four weeks ago) link

"no big deal to lie to the FBI?"
"yeah, exactly."

Dems gotta use that in an ad!!

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 June 2022 21:24 (four weeks ago) link

Louie Gohmert used to be a judge.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 3 June 2022 21:28 (four weeks ago) link

that information alone undoes any sort of legitimacy of the US legal system

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Friday, 3 June 2022 21:49 (four weeks ago) link

Strange how the AP story has no direct quote of Biden agreeing to scrap filibuster.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 June 2022 14:02 (two days ago) link

What is Biden on board with?

the pinefox, Thursday, 30 June 2022 14:32 (two days ago) link

working with Mitch to appoint more conservative judges

frogbs, Thursday, 30 June 2022 14:33 (two days ago) link

I’m less able to donate generally than before, but when I do it’s more likely to be directly to causes - hunger, homelessness, women’s productive health, etc.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 30 June 2022 15:57 (two days ago) link

I am kinda beside myself over how much I naively gave to Dems who turned out to have zero shot in 2020

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 June 2022 15:58 (two days ago) link

I got really angry at dems about that too - how much they bulshitted people about candidates who could supposedly beat McConnell or Graham or whoever. It's a grift imo. I sometimes joke now "I'm not giving any more money to political candidates until I'm at the point where I can give enough to get something in return."

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 30 June 2022 16:01 (two days ago) link

still incredibly mad about the Washington Post piece

Same, fuckin same. I suddenly have reached the point where I cannot eat one more ounce of shit from these idiots. It’s disgusting.

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 30 June 2022 17:17 (two days ago) link

I get so many emails from the Democratic Party pleading for cash. So many of them sound absolutely desperate. It's embarrassing, frankly.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 30 June 2022 17:19 (two days ago) link

Those emails are the fucking worst. There are two basic strains. The first kind looks like internet 1997 and says shit like "HUMILIATING DEFEAT! Nancy Pelosi needs to raise $10 million by tomorrow or Republicans will win!" I find these not only aggravating but intensely demoralizing and they only increase my association of Democrats with losing. The second are the more Obama-style ones that get overly familiar and come from like "Vicky for Senate!" or start "I'm Dave-o's Mom And I Want To Tell You About My Son"

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 30 June 2022 17:40 (two days ago) link

Yes, exactly. Or the ones who say something like "McConnell is FURIOUS!" Referring, not to McConnell actually being furious, but to something he might or should be furious about, e.g., Amy Klobuchar saying on some news show. They all make me want to stop giving money to the party altogether.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 30 June 2022 17:43 (two days ago) link

Here's one I just got:

Click here to unsubscribe

James -- This is a hard email to write.

But Democrats are about to lose our shot at winning the Senate Majority... we’re going to hand Mitch McConnell complete control over Joe Biden.

Almost no one -- seriously, NO ONE -- has donated to boost Democratic Voter Turnout in Pennsylvania.

If we miss tonight’s 25,000 donation goal, our campaign in Pennsylvania (THE MOST COMPETITIVE SENATE RACE) is DONE. McConnell wins again. We. Would. CRY.

So this is your FINAL chance to do the right thing! We are BEGGING you to donate.
James You Have NOT DONATED to Boost Voter Turnout in Pennsylvania!

CAN YOU DONATE TO HELP SAVE FETTERMAN’S CAMPAIGN AND HUMILIATE MITCH MCCONNELL? →

Donate $5 →

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James -- if we can help elect Fetterman, Democrats will keep the Senate. It’s that simple.

That’s why we set a lofty fundraising goal of 25,000 donations by midnight tonight. We’ll use that money to SKYROCKET Democratic Voter Turnout and DESTROY the Republicans!

But James, we are still well short of that goal. So we need you to rush $5 to help save John Fetterman. →

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We’re not ready to quit. We need you with us.
- Progressive Turnout Project

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 30 June 2022 17:59 (two days ago) link

The subject line is "We Are Sorry."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 30 June 2022 17:59 (two days ago) link

We’re not ready to quit.

You sure aren't.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:00 (two days ago) link

I will say, I am genuinely curious how my $5 donation will SKYROCKET Democratic voter turnout and DESTROY the Republicans.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:03 (two days ago) link

Of course!

https://i.gifer.com/MCvC.gif

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:04 (two days ago) link

the only consolation I have is that Republican fundraising emails are somehow even worse! it's always shit like "Hey! It's Don Jr.! My Dad noticed the other day that you didn't appear on our MEGA GOLDEN PATRIOT list, and, uh...I kinda vouched for you dude...he said he was really disappointed and wondered if you'd fallen under the spell of the GROOMER DEMOCRATS...anyway...if you could uh, give me 5 dollars..."

frogbs, Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:06 (two days ago) link

I've pulled back so much from keeping up with political news since the beginning of last year but I'm genuinely about to give up altogether. Just assume that vulnerable communities will always be under assault and figure out how best to help them directly, vote locally, and fuck giving one iota of attention to any elected POS in every other level of government because what is even the point of paying attention at this point. It's all such demoralizing pyramid scheme theater.

The worst I've ever gotten was a fundraising mailer that looked like a collections letter, at a time when I was panicking because of actual collections agencies (because a hospital was mad that I didn't pay $5000 for 6 stitches and to be told that I didn't have a concussion).

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:17 (two days ago) link

xp that's going to have to be my default mode soon here too, Old Lunch, until they start rounding people up for sexing obv

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:19 (two days ago) link

we’re going to hand Mitch McConnell complete control over Joe Biden.

Uh oh he's going to make him nominate anti-abortion federal judges

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:21 (two days ago) link

Lol @ subject line “We Are Sorry”

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:55 (two days ago) link

"Packing Our Bags" is a recurring one.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:57 (two days ago) link

lmao, sounds about right

82-year-old Patrick Leahy needs hip surgery after falling in his Virginia home. Unclear how long he’ll be out in the 50-50 Senate. Senators are on recess next week as well. His office notes he was “born blind in one eye” and “has had a lifelong struggle” with depth perception pic.twitter.com/9JhgypezIi

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) June 30, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:01 (two days ago) link

Senate might want to build a residential care home somewhere on the Hill

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:10 (two days ago) link

We. Would. CRY. for July thread title.

I am surprised by Gorsuch's dissent and think this is a good example of the misconstrual by the majority of states' rights: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/29/us/politics/supreme-court-ruling-oklahoma-tribes.html

Indeed, he wrote, “Castro-Huerta’s argument would require this court to treat Indian victims as second-class citizens.”

Justice Gorsuch responded that “the old paternalist overtones are hard to ignore.”

Agreed. (Your government is second-class?)

youn, Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:00 (two days ago) link

I have this one fundraising email that always sticks out in my mind that purported to be from "James Carville" and the header was "[Man Alive] We are SCREWED!" I laugh every time I think about it, hearing it in Carville's voice and picturing his facial expression.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:08 (two days ago) link

Cajun Style

as I understand it Gorsuch is actually surprisingly good on American Indian rights issues, he consistently rules in their favor

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:12 (two days ago) link

Regarding fundraising (not that I have donated for a long time), I think the politicians are doing what their pollsters are telling them to do, in the hopes that the small power of the masses will outweigh the limited(?) power of the elite. They can't escape the mass channels of influence unless they resort to influencers and have superpowers with respect to social intelligence. I think Obama resigned himself to fundraising as a surrogate for community activism.

youn, Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:22 (two days ago) link

The incessant begging emails are the product of many decades of direct-mail advertising techniques, where different kinds of appeals are tried, the results of each are carefully tabulated and compared, the least successful are eliminated and the most successful are refined. The overall effect is to converge upon approaches that appeal most strongly to the least common denominator. Most potential small dollar donors are totally baffled by the byzantine complexities of US politics.

The collision of the internet, direct mail techniques, and the simple-minded political perspective of the target audience produces the results you see in these emails. It doesn't do any good to feel insulted. The pols are just captive to the need to find the most efficient way to raise money and, for now, this is what works best.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:50 (two days ago) link

Does it do good to do anything, Aimless? Sometimes I wonder about who are the cynical and nihilistic ones.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:01 (two days ago) link

seriously

thinkmanship (sleeve), Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:03 (two days ago) link

as I understand it Gorsuch is actually surprisingly good on American Indian rights issues, he consistently rules in their favor

he's LDS, Mormons have a whole thing with regard to Native Americans

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:04 (two days ago) link

as I understand it Gorsuch is actually surprisingly good on American Indian rights issues, he consistently rules in their favor

― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, June 30, 2022 5:12 PM (fifty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah it's his thing

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/05/neil-gorsuch-supreme-court-tribal-rights-sonia-sotomayor.html

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:06 (two days ago) link

he must be charles m. russell collector or something

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:09 (two days ago) link

he is the only western judge on the supreme court right now fwiw

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:10 (two days ago) link

Sometimes the appeals are for people to show up. Perhaps the pollsters are thinking of disposable income and disposable time and weighing their appeals accordingly. Apathy is hard to escape. Most people don't expect an effect and come to weigh and parcel out their contributions or efforts to when enough people feel the same or they can ride a common sentiment and not stick out. (xpost)

youn, Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:18 (two days ago) link

I think Trump's politics have been described as transactional and the most corrupt governments might be considered the same. There is a notion of giving for a cause or belief that is distinct from a direct payback for survival.

youn, Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:23 (two days ago) link

Is there a sudden spate of decorating walls with dripping ketchup or similar condiment. Is there a specific canonical ketchup one needs to base things on ?

Stevolende, Friday, 1 July 2022 09:53 (yesterday) link

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045487/1912-09-23/ed-1/seq-29/?loclr=blogloc

"Commoners' food"; also mustard, with cheese in Ulysses IIRC; ~= false embellishment

youn, Friday, 1 July 2022 10:22 (yesterday) link

Biden stated that he wanted to overturn the filibuster and codify abortion rights.

Is that news?

the pinefox, Friday, 1 July 2022 10:37 (yesterday) link

So what are we calling the July thread?

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 1 July 2022 12:05 (yesterday) link

Orange Jesus Take the Wheel (just kidding)

"I'm the effing president"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 1 July 2022 13:21 (yesterday) link

so i've been trying to do something with this overwhelming anger i've felt over the last few weeks, months, years and was hoping to do more in local criminal justice. does anyone know of databases that store crime, charges, age of accused etc?

Heez, Friday, 1 July 2022 13:24 (yesterday) link


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