We. Would. CRY.: US Politics, July 2022

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I think it's (be) best and shows growth to not use a Trump quote in the title.

Picking up from the other thread:

so i've been trying to do something with this overwhelming anger i've felt over the last few weeks, months, years and was hoping to do more in local criminal justice. does anyone know of databases that store crime, charges, age of accused etc?

― Heez, Friday, July 1, 2022 8:24 AM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Good morning!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 July 2022 13:49 (one month ago) link

Where’s the sealed indictments?

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 1 July 2022 13:57 (one month ago) link

Local databases are all over the place, so it really depends where you are. They’re not required to keep track of much, and even when they are, they just don’t do it. Remember how even the fbi, a couple years ago, had no idea how many police shootings there were in the United States?

I did, and I forgot, as usual. Here’s a Washington post article on it from dec 2021:

In an attempt to create a definitive database on how often police officers use force on citizens, the FBI launched the National Use-of-Force Data Collection program in 2019, imploring police departments to submit details on every incident, not just fatal shootings. But the failure of police and federal agencies to send their data to the FBI puts the program in jeopardy of being shut down next year without ever releasing a single statistic, a new report by the Government Accountability Office says.

The program was required to obtain data representing 60 percent of law enforcement officers, to meet a standard of quality set by the Office of Management and Budget, or else stop the effort by the end of 2022. In 2019, the data covered 44 percent of local, state, federal and tribal officers, and last year the total increased to 55 percent, according to the program’s website. So far this year, the data represents 57 percent of all officers, the FBI said Wednesday.

“Due to insufficient participation from law enforcement agencies,” the GAO wrote, “the FBI faces risks that it may not meet the participation thresholds” established by OMB, “and therefore may never publish use of force incident data.”

Getting local police data is like pulling teeth. They’ll often put out pieces of it, but in ways that shame those are accused before they’re convicted of anything.

I’m walking my sweet dog now but I can try to help when I get back!

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 July 2022 13:58 (one month ago) link

Thanks Karl! I mean it's a bummer but thanks

Heez, Friday, 1 July 2022 14:13 (one month ago) link

oh, please don't let me discourage you! i don't know why i honed in on that one, particularly disappointing example, considering you were asking about local databases, not national ones.

it's not all garbarge. there is some stuff you can find. here's one place: the FBI's Crime Data Explorer

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 July 2022 14:38 (one month ago) link

Thanks. It's election time here and I've been frustrated that they are charging a local kid that brought a ghost gun to school as an adult. So I hit up one former PD running for County Council and he explained that Maryland has a gun law that anyone 16 and older charged with possession gets charged as an adult. Apparently the Judge has the ability to transfer the case to juvenile courts, but it's up to the judge.

Heez, Friday, 1 July 2022 15:06 (one month ago) link

If the FBI wants cops to tell them about their use of force they need to send out emails that say "Tell Us How Much Ass You Kicked This Week, You Awesome Super Trooper, You!"

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 1 July 2022 15:37 (one month ago) link


This wasn't SNL on a Thursday night.

This was Wyoming's Republican primary debate. pic.twitter.com/PUHeOMdx7I

— The Republican Accountability Project (@AccountableGOP) July 1, 2022

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 1 July 2022 17:47 (one month ago) link

"All the major internets do that"

Jesus Cheney sounds like churchill in that batch of kooky birds

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 1 July 2022 18:05 (one month ago) link

forgot a comma, I don't actually consider her to be Jesus

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 1 July 2022 18:06 (one month ago) link

But she has the same initials.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 July 2022 18:07 (one month ago) link

She's doomed

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 1 July 2022 18:08 (one month ago) link

I hate to look up who on that stage is ahead of her in polling

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Friday, 1 July 2022 18:23 (one month ago) link

yeah. it's Harriet Hageman, on the far left. expected to win. she's the one who says something about fauci being totally corrupt, and then later in the clip becomes only first person i've ever heard in my life say the words "2000 mules" out loud

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 July 2022 18:27 (one month ago) link

horseshoe theory is real

symsymsym, Friday, 1 July 2022 18:29 (one month ago) link

"Serious leaders"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 1 July 2022 18:31 (one month ago) link

It's 2000 mules when all you need is an ox

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 1 July 2022 18:32 (one month ago) link

one time, i said "bona fide" out loud. it wasn't even that long, maybe 4-5 years ago. i said "bone-uh-fyed", rhyming it with "died" which is what happened inside when one guy there clearly knew how dumb i was and said "...bone-uh-fyed...?" to me and then politely changed the topic to the category of Other Things, Any Thing Else At All, leaving me to search "bone fide pronunciation later that night. god DAMN IT! how could i not have known. and yet, harriet hageman says "2000 mules" out loud as a real thing for people to think about, and she's probably going to win. come on

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 July 2022 18:33 (one month ago) link

wyoming should really get two half-senators... each working 2-3 days a week

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 1 July 2022 18:38 (one month ago) link

...with brains working maybe 2-3 hours a day

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 1 July 2022 18:58 (one month ago) link

Fwiw the obnoxious bona fide dude was just being a pedant. BOH-nuh-fied is standard American English.


Here in the South, the way very well-educated lawyers pronounce "voir dire" rhymes with "for fire."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 1 July 2022 20:19 (one month ago) link

Yep I've heard that in courtrooms.


Then-President Donald Trump angrily demanded to go to the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, and berated his protective detail when he didn’t get his way, according to two Secret Service sources who say they heard about the incident from multiple agents, including the driver of the presidential SUV where it occurred.

The sources tell CNN that stories circulated about the incident – including details that are similar to how former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson described it to the House select committee investigating January 6 – in the months immediately afterward the US Capitol attack and before she testified this week.

While the details from those who heard the accounts differ, the Secret Service sources say they were told an angry confrontation did occur. And their accounts align with significant parts of Hutchinson’s testimony, which has been attacked as hearsay by Trump and his allies who also have tried to discredit her overall testimony.

ike Hutchinson, one source, a longtime Secret Service employee, told CNN that the agents relaying the story described Trump as “demanding” and that the former President said something similar to: “I’m the f**king President of the United States, you can’t tell me what to do.” The source said he originally heard that kind of language was used shortly after the incident.

“He had sort of lunged forward – it was unclear from the conversations I had that he actually made physical contact, but he might have. I don’t know,” the source said. “Nobody said Trump assaulted him; they said he tried to lunge over the seat – for what reason, nobody had any idea.”

The employee said he’d heard about the incident multiple times as far back as February 2021 from other agents, including some who were part of the presidential protective detail during that time period but none of whom were involved in the incident.

The source added that agents often recounted stories of Trump’s fits of anger, including the former President throwing and breaking things.

“Not just plates,” the source added,


dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:55 (one month ago) link

The former Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson received at least one message tacitly warning her not to cooperate with the House January 6 select committee from an associate of former chief of staff Mark Meadows, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

The message in question was the second of two warnings the committee disclosed at the end of its explosive special hearing on Tuesday, when Hutchinson testified about matters including how Donald Trump directed a crowd he knew was armed to march on the Capitol, the sources said.


dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:59 (one month ago) link

Yep I've heard that in courtrooms.

Hell, I've said it. To pronounce it any other way would mark me as an outsider--not that my lack of Southern accent doesn't do that already.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 1 July 2022 21:01 (one month ago) link

Oh yeah, during his Senate primary campaign, JD Vance was indignant about charges that he wanted to defund the police. PolitiFact checked:

Vance’s calls to abolish ATF
The mission of the ATF is "to protect communities from violent criminals, criminal organizations and illegal use and trafficking of firearms," among other things, according to the U.S. Government Accountability Office.

Vance, an author and venture capitalist, has called several times for getting rid of the agency, including in a February opinion article published by the Cincinnati Enquirer, in tweets and in a campaign ad.

His Feb. 2 tweet included a video clip of himself at a campaign event alleging that the ATF is "spying on lawful gun owners" by keeping a database of gun transactions.

Vance falsely claimed in a February ad that President Joe Biden "uses the ATF to illegally track your gun transactions." The Government Accountability Office found that ATF is following the law in how it manages gun transaction records.

A joint fundraising committee that raises contributions for Vance’s campaign and for his leadership PAC also ran an ad on Facebook and Instagram calling for the ATF to be abolished.

Vance’s criticism of the FBI
Vance has been critical of the FBI, calling for an investigation of its "corrupt leadership," accusing it of botching investigations and of spying on Trump.

We found that in January, Vance retweeted a tweet that said: "The FBI is an irreparably corrupt and broken agency that needs to be defunded and eliminated."


dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 21:09 (one month ago) link

ATF hatred is sure to get him the votes of 1992 Michigan Militia dweebs who've emigrated to Ohio.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 1 July 2022 21:13 (one month ago) link

Some new details on the Biden-McConnell deal:

1. Biden agreed to name Chad Meredith, an anti-abortion advocate, to a federal court in Kentucky in exchange for McConnell's promise that he would stop blocking Democrats' picks for U.S. Attorney in Kentucky. https://t.co/R57iFtSuZ3

— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) July 1, 2022

Goddamn, lifetime Federalist Society judgeship for two years of a couple of prosecutors.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 1 July 2022 21:16 (one month ago) link

dems going to try and recruit Cheney to run in 2028 huh

no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Friday, 1 July 2022 21:19 (one month ago) link

Where's Schumer?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 1 July 2022 21:23 (one month ago) link

Gardening, probably.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 1 July 2022 21:32 (one month ago) link

Adding to his sock collection

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 1 July 2022 21:32 (one month ago) link

Appointing an anti-abortion judge anywhere is bad, but in a state that's about to outlaw abortion it's even worse. And the only reason to care about U.S. attorneys is to let some political players pad their resumes.

(what is 2000 mules a mondegreen of?)

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Friday, 1 July 2022 22:22 (one month ago) link

It's not. It's some ridiculous conspiracy theory promulgated by Dinesh D'Souza that thousands of fake Democratic voters cast fraudulent mail-in ballots...somefuckinwhere. I forget the details. He made one of his bullshit documentaries about it.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 1 July 2022 22:23 (one month ago) link

Yeah, it's the title of the latest D'Souza joint.

Good news for Minnesotans, apparently:


— Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) July 1, 2022

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 1 July 2022 22:38 (one month ago) link

lmao how did this happen

frogbs, Friday, 1 July 2022 22:44 (one month ago) link

Here's an article from the Star Tribune (pasted in full 'cause it's paywalled):

Minnesotans who are 21 or older can start buying edibles and beverages that contain THC — the ingredient in cannabis that gets you high — under a new state law that takes effect Friday.

The new law permits the sale and purchase of edibles and beverages that contain up to 5 milligrams of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) per serving and 50 milligrams per package. A 5-milligram THC edible can cause a high feeling for first-time users, while people who are used to cannabis could require a larger dose to feel the effect.

Five milligrams is about half the standard dose found in recreational marijuana products in other states.

New THC products must be derived from legally certified hemp, which contains trace amounts of the psychoactive compound, according to the law. But THC will produce the same effect whether it's derived from hemp or marijuana, industry experts say.

"This stuff will get you high, no doubt about it," said attorney Jason Tarasek, founder of the Minnesota Cannabis Law firm and a board member of the Minnesota Cannabis Association. "Everybody's calling it hemp-derived THC, which makes it sound like something other than marijuana. But I went on social media and I called it adult-use marijuana, because that's what most people are going to consider this to be."

Cannabis advocates say they can hardly believe the law passed the Minnesota Legislature given Senate Republicans' opposition to recreational marijuana legalization. Steven Brown, CEO of Nothing But Hemp, said he will begin selling a dozen new THC products Friday at his six Minnesota retail stores, with a few dozen more rolling out over the next month.

"In some ways, we legalized cannabis," Brown said.

Rep. Heather Edelson, an Edina Democrat who sponsored the legislation in the House, said the new law was born from an effort to strengthen oversight of the emerging market.

Hemp and cannabidiol (CBD) products were already legal in Minnesota provided they contained less than 0.3% delta-9 THC, the primary intoxicant in marijuana. But that legal threshold did not apply to delta-8 THC, an intoxicating cousin of delta-9. As a result, delta-8 products were widely sold in the state in various forms and at dosages high enough to pose health risks.

The new law's milligram requirements apply to any form of THC, reining in the delta-8 market while also allowing the sale and purchase of traditional THC edibles and beverages.

Starting Friday, CBD and THC products must be clearly labeled and sold only to those 21 or older. Edibles must be in child-proof and tamper-evident packages, have clearly defined serving sizes and carry the label, "Keep this product out of reach of children."

"Bringing more consumer protections really was my goal," Edelson said, though she admitted the new law gives Minnesota a sample of recreational marijuana legalization: "There was no mystery about what we were doing here."

It's unclear if leaders of the Republican-controlled Minnesota Senate fully realized the law would legalize delta-9 THC edibles before they agreed to pass it. Sen. Michelle Benson, R-Ham Lake, said she knew it would but "did not discuss that specifically" with Republican Senate Majority Leader Jeremy Miller, R-Winona.

Benson, chair of the Senate Human Services Licensing Policy Committee, said she and some other lawmakers were interested in capping dosages of delta-8 THC, which existed in an unregulated gray area. But to regulate any type of THC, as the new law does, "you have to pick an amount to measure by," she said.

Miller declined to comment, deferring to Sen. Mark Koran, R-North Branch, who authored a Senate version of Edelson's bill that did not explicitly allow milligram dosages.

"With the federal changes in 2018, the [Minnesota] Board of Pharmacy and Department of Agriculture recognized the need for regulations on certain products and worked with the Legislature to restrict the market," Koran said in a statement. "That's what this bill does."

Sen. Jim Abeler, R-Anoka, who chairs the Senate Human Services Reform Finance and Policy Committee, said he didn't realize the new law would legalize edibles containing delta-9 THC before it passed. He thought the law would only regulate delta-8 THC products.

"I thought we were doing a technical fix, and it winded up having a broader impact than I expected," Abeler said, adding that the Legislature should consider rolling the new law back.

House Democrats and Gov. Tim Walz, both of whom support recreational marijuana legalization, are unlikely to agree to such a request. Majority Leader Ryan Winkler, DFL-Golden Valley, called Abeler's suggestion to roll back the law "ridiculous" and said Democrats have no interest in doing so.

Abeler "voted for it. He signed the conference report," Winkler said. "This is a step forward towards a policy we strongly support."

The law places no limit on how many CBD and THC products can be purchased and does not regulate who can sell them. It also allows the cannabis components to be infused into food and drinks.

Brown is already working with breweries to create nonalcoholic THC beers and seltzers that he will sell in his stores. He said he wants to "promote cannabis over alcohol" to Minnesotans.

Superior Cannabis Co., which has stores in Duluth; Austin, Minn.; and Superior, Wis., will soon begin selling THC gummies, president and co-owner Jeff Brinkman said. Coffee shops and bars have already begun reaching out to him about selling CBD products, he said.

"This is really exciting for us," Brinkman said. "It's a really good opportunity to demonstrate to legislators [that] legalization is just one step away."

Tarasek said Minnesota's new law is a "cannabis industry oddity." He's already fielding calls from cannabis companies nationwide that now see Minnesota as a "quasi-legal market."

"I'm getting calls from across the country saying, 'What is this? We've never seen this,' " Tarasek said. "They want to jump in."

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 1 July 2022 22:49 (one month ago) link

CDB gummies are about as intoxicating as Werthers Originals

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 1 July 2022 22:52 (one month ago) link

xp Um, the article mentions THC gummies, not CBD gummies.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 1 July 2022 23:00 (one month ago) link

From a certain point of view, we legalized marijuana

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Saturday, 2 July 2022 00:15 (one month ago) link

NY Gov signs new gun law:

Democratic leaders have said they expect pro-gun advocates to challenge the legislation in court -- but they believe the bill language will hold up.
New York State Senate Majority Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins said during a news conference Friday that lawmakers crafted the language carefully following the Supreme Court decision.
"We wanted to make sure that our permitting process would be able to stand up to scrutiny, and the technical aspects took a long time. But we are confident that we are providing New York, again, an opportunity not only to be able to have their concealed carry, but also to make New Yorkers safe," Stewart-Cousins said.
...Last month, Hochul signed a legislative package to tighten state gun laws, including a law that raised the minimum age to buy a semiautomatic rifle to 21.


dow, Saturday, 2 July 2022 03:25 (one month ago) link

i know this is a minor gotcha-type-thing and i'm piling dumb on top of dumb, but if the talking point that trump actually requested 10k or 20k national guard troops for jan 6 and pelosi and not-at-all-at-the-time-senate-majority-leader shumer nixed the request, so therefore they're responsible for the lax defense against the capitol attack, wouldn't that just implicate trump?

i mean, the reality is when he suggested that he just wanted to protect his supporters from antifa and blm and people with green hair and nose rings but the way it's presented on righty talk radio that i allegedly listen to sometimes is that this totally and irrevocably forever and ever amen contradicts the accusation that he was ok fine with his supporters breaching the capitol and perpetuating various wildings therein, because he actually tried to provide security for the capitol but was rebuffed.

wouldn't then the inference be that he assumed congress needed protection against his own supporters? it's not like antifa was going to try to stop the certification of let's go brandon frasier.

i see articles that refute the trump defense by saying that didn't happen, trump never formally requested troops and pelosi didn't have the power to reject, and i assume it's the case, but since the apparent upshot of the jan 6 panel is to triangulate trump's frame of mind and intent, why wouldn't it matter either way? either he's lying about being the guy who actually wanted to protect the capitol or elsewise he foresaw that the mob he riled up and directed capitolwards was gonna do some heinous stuff and he felt the need to provide security against what he set in motion.

i am not trained in formal logic processes and i spend most of my life like butters out in the outfield singing i see a ladybug, hello little ladybug while there's a game going on, but imo there are only two possibilities,

a) trmpu suggested nat'l guard security for his supporters only, and in the aftermath tried to game that into the assertion that he was the one who tried to protect the capitol and all his fox and friends were knowingly in bad faith with that's the fact, jack, and boo wendy pelosi, boo wendy, boo, in which case they're lying liars or

b) it's true, he requested the guardians because protecting the capitol and democracy against whom? himself and his supporters?

perhaps this is a small thing and not the silver bullet that's the final nail in the coffin but this is is kind of thinking that keeps me in the state of mind that this guy and all his friends are cheats and weasels and why are we having to deal with this still. why ado we have to prove he knew he was doing the wrong thing, if all we have to prove is he did the wrong thing?

slugbuggy, Saturday, 2 July 2022 08:24 (one month ago) link

Does Biden get stigma from having abortion criminalised under his Presidency however it's looked at. Is it going to be something taht is permanently attached to his name.
Like even allowing it to happen when he's in a position of supposed power.
& shouldn't that mean he does whatever he can to prevent it to stop it attaching to him or for more egalitarian less centred on him reasons.

Stevolende, Saturday, 2 July 2022 10:30 (one month ago) link

He’s against abortion, he doesn’t give a shit

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Saturday, 2 July 2022 13:23 (one month ago) link

love to see republicans stab themselves in the neck.

akm, Friday, 29 July 2022 15:51 (two weeks ago) link

and yet they will win, because they are undead

Take Me Down to the Pentagon City... (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 29 July 2022 16:01 (two weeks ago) link

just remembered this. great stuff.


𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 29 July 2022 16:10 (two weeks ago) link

Problem is the GOP are really good at making sure their boots are still on the necks of the disenfranchised while they stab themselves in the neck.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 July 2022 16:14 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah I am not cool with "both sides"-ing shit right now. Yeah I guess you could say that both sides have extremes. One side wants to kill people out of sheer spite, the other side kinda hopes you will say some different words sometimes. Yep, that's totally the same. Both sides, whatabout, etc.

your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 29 July 2022 18:33 (two weeks ago) link


Biden administration authorizes completion of the Trump-funded U.S.-Mexico border wall in an open area of southern Arizona near Yuma, where four wide gaps make it among the busiest corridors for illegal crossings. https://t.co/XUkmYOggev

— NBC News (@NBCNews) July 29, 2022

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 July 2022 18:43 (two weeks ago) link

Whining about Senate betrayal is so funny because who do they think gives a shit? Even the GOP's base isn't going to hate Democrats 1% more because they tricked Cornyn et al..

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 29 July 2022 18:46 (two weeks ago) link

idk, the latest conservative line that's been popping up over the last 48 hours is that Trump happened because the press and democrats were mean to Mitt Romney, so they certainly have the potential to hone in on the mildest of grievances and whine endlessly about it

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 29 July 2022 18:56 (two weeks ago) link

xp right. overall approval among your voters goes up when you pass things, even if those things are unpopular with those voters! i don't think overall approval goes up when you tattle that CHIPS was passed unfairly. most people don't know what CHIPS is.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 29 July 2022 19:12 (two weeks ago) link

overall approval among your voters goes up when you pass things, even if those things are unpopular with those voters!

e.g. iirc 2017 tax cuts were and are incredibly unpopular, but their passing was the high point in trump's approval?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 29 July 2022 19:14 (two weeks ago) link

gab, the social media network for nazis, has started running ads on their platform. but who would pay to advertise their products & services on a website for white nationalists, antisemites, and aspiring mass shooters? well...

— molly conger (@socialistdogmom) July 29, 2022

Ad-Based Gab for August thread title.

they certainly have the potential to hone in on the mildest of grievances and whine endlessly about it

Like my conservative friend who is still so mad about the “cover up” of Hunter’s laptop.

Russian government officials requested that a former colonel from the country’s domestic spy agency who was convicted of murder in Germany last year be added to the US’ proposed swap of a notorious arms dealer for Brittney Griner and Paul Whelan, multiple sources familiar with the discussions told CNN.
...The request was seen as problematic for several reasons, the sources told CNN, among them that Krasikov remains in German custody. As such, and because the request was not communicated formally but rather through the FSB backchannel, the US government did not view it as a legitimate counter to the US’ offer which was first revealed by CNN on Wednesday.
But underscoring how determined the Biden administration has been to get Griner and Whelan back to the US, US officials did make quiet inquiries to the Germans about whether they might be willing to include Krasikov in the trade, a senior German government source told CNN. A US official characterized the outreach as a status check on Krasikov.

The conversations were never elevated to the top levels of the German government and including Krasikov in a potential trade has not been seriously considered, the German source said. But the previously unreported discussions reveal that Russian officials have at least somewhat engaged with the US’ proposal.

...Asked for comment, a State Department official told CNN that “In order to preserve the best opportunity for a successful outcome, we’re not going to comment publicly on any speculation.”

...Multiple sources told CNN that even if it is not Krasikov, the Russians will likely demand two prisoners be released in exchange for Griner and Whelan. Russian government officials have indicated publicly in recent weeks that they want to see the release of Bout and Roman Seleznev, a convicted hacker currently serving a 27-year sentence in the US.


dow, Friday, 29 July 2022 21:55 (two weeks ago) link

Here’s @tedcruz fist-bumping fellow Republicans after blocking a bill to help veterans exposed to toxic burn pits. pic.twitter.com/sZdDljrJV7

— Sawyer Hackett (@SawyerHackett) July 29, 2022

So there's nothing in this reconciliation bill about renewing the child tax credits, I assume?

Manchin really didn't like the idea of his constituents' children sitting around eating food, when they could starting a summer job way down in the mine

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 29 July 2022 22:20 (two weeks ago) link


Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 July 2022 22:33 (two weeks ago) link

He was worried about people spending it on drugs, someone could have just pointed out that the credit let them buy his daughter's epi-pens.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 29 July 2022 22:36 (two weeks ago) link

Maybe child tax credits for freeing up child labor? Fair and Balanced.

dow, Friday, 29 July 2022 22:37 (two weeks ago) link

Careful with the phrasing, he'll think you mean tax credits for coal mining operations to hire pre-teen children.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 29 July 2022 23:08 (two weeks ago) link


The Department of Homeland Security’s chief watchdog scrapped its investigative team’s effort to collect agency phones to try to recover deleted Secret Service texts this year, according to four people with knowledge of the decision and internal records reviewed by The Washington Post.

In early February, after learning that the Secret Service’s text messages had been erased as part of a migration to new devices, staff at Inspector General Joseph V. Cuffari’s office planned to contact all DHS agencies offering to have data specialists help retrieve messages from their phones, according to two government whistleblowers who provided reports to Congress.

But later that month, Cuffari’s office decided it would not collect or review any agency phones, according to three people briefed on the decision.

...Cuffari, a former adviser to Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey (R), has been in his post since July 2019 after being nominated by Trump.



Why has Biden White House or current DHS head not asked for Trump appointee Cuffai to resign? And shouldn't all be asked to testify under oath and face charges? Back in April the Project on Government Oversight said that Cuffari should be placed on administrative leave and or fired https://www.pogo.org/letter/2022/04/pogo-calls-on-president-biden-to-remove-dhs-ig-joseph-cuffari

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 July 2022 03:18 (two weeks ago) link

They're such shameless mobsters

New: Rep. Matt Gaetz was caught on a hot mic assuring Roger Stone that Trump would likely pardon him shortly before Stone’s criminal trial in 2019. “The boss still has a very favorable view of you … he said it directly.” https://t.co/GcePQC3vcg

— Jon Swaine (@jonswaine) July 30, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 July 2022 13:52 (two weeks ago) link

We have to give them the benefit of the doubt here. By “the boss” Gaetz is probably talking about the American taxpayers

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 30 July 2022 14:19 (two weeks ago) link

Or Springsteen, or Ross?

Sinema indicates she may want to change Schumer-Manchin deal
Also: coming Vote-a-Rama, poison pills, more---it's Axios, but seems plausible enough:

dow, Saturday, 30 July 2022 17:13 (two weeks ago) link

Rep. Chuy García (D-IL) tweeted profanities and a slur in response to a random Twitter account with 531 followers who trolled him. pic.twitter.com/LUjqWnDoxd

— Joseph A. Wulfsohn (@JosephWulfsohn) July 30, 2022

will use the vote-a-rama to force vulnerable Democrats to take politically difficult votes.

Similar to whining about being tricked on CHIPs, is this something that ever really matters? Every Republican ad is a lie about their opponents record anyway.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 30 July 2022 23:38 (two weeks ago) link

(and I'm sure Democrats will run ads about Republican Senators stabbing veterans in the bank to similarly little effectiveness)

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 30 July 2022 23:39 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah getting them to withdraw money and then stabbing them probably more effective

F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Sunday, 31 July 2022 00:59 (two weeks ago) link

Apparently the vets thing will pass next week. I follow this stuff and I have no idea what’s going on. Amazed senators think anyone cares at all about anything other than bills that pass (and even then).

Mr President, passage would not have been delayed if Senator Schumer had kept his promises. Good news is, despite his mendacity, it will pass this next week. https://t.co/HVUtLYmFeU

— Senator John Cornyn (@JohnCornyn) July 31, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 31 July 2022 15:47 (two weeks ago) link

cornyn is talking out of his ass

akm, Sunday, 31 July 2022 17:02 (two weeks ago) link

So, given what we know of cover-ups and incompetence, why are there *any* Trump picks still in appointed government positions?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 July 2022 17:18 (two weeks ago) link

Deep state

F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Sunday, 31 July 2022 18:01 (two weeks ago) link

Dem adherence to norms and traditions

Are U down with the BVM (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 31 July 2022 18:44 (two weeks ago) link

If God didn’t want Louis DeJoy running the Post Office, He’d smite him.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 31 July 2022 18:50 (two weeks ago) link

getting ready to cast my vote in the missouri primary. my choices for a democratic senator are a marine, someone with busch in their name, and a guy who spends all of his interview time talking about how cool the text message campaign is that he built which costs 2 cents per message instead of the state-wide average of 6 cents.

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 15:04 (two weeks ago) link

guess i'm voting for tough guy marine with a soft heart lucas kunce to stand up man-to-man with all the republican candidates who center their campaigns around how they want everyone to use their guns and also how everyone is out to get them. he was endorsed by sanders last night, i guess. but early polling shows that even if Eric Greitens, who is a shell of a man and a reaaaaaaaaaal piece of shit, wins the Republican nomination, Kunce would be a significant underdog. And if the other Eric (Schmitt) wins -- Schmitt is a reaaaaaaaaaal piece of shit -- then it's not even close. The good people of Missouri know in their hearts that they want a reaaaaaaaaaaaal piece of shit!

speaking of, trump made an endorsement yesterday: ""I am therefore proud to announce that ERIC has my Complete and Total Endorsement!"

predictably, both Erics thought it was about them.

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 15:11 (two weeks ago) link

so did Eric Trump

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 15:13 (two weeks ago) link

that eric trump is a reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 15:16 (two weeks ago) link

so Nancy Pelosi is in Taiwan, not really sure what to make of that

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 15:18 (two weeks ago) link

She should hoist an American flag and claim the country, see what China makes of *that*.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 15:20 (two weeks ago) link

Good news, I guess:

President Joe Biden has far outpaced his Oval Office predecessors in nominating women and racially diverse attorneys to the federal bench, a new American Bar Association analysis confirms.

As of July 1, 68% of the 68 federal judges nominated by Biden and confirmed by the Senate are Black, Hispanic or Asian American, and just three are white men, the ABA found. By contrast, 16% of the judges installed on the federal bench by former President Donald Trump are non-white, according to the organization's 2022 Profile of the Legal Profession.

The report, released Thursday, details how diversity within the federal judiciary is slowly increasing.

After Biden, Barack Obama appointed the second-most non-white federal judges, at 36%, followed by Bill Clinton at 24%. According to the ABA’s figures, which date back to the Carter administration, Ronald Reagan had the lowest percentage of non-white federal judges at 6%....

...In addition to racial diversity, Biden has pushed to nominate federal judges with a broader range of professional experience and has tapped more nominees with backgrounds as public defenders than past presidents.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 16:02 (two weeks ago) link

Our intelligence community is the best.

— Pete Buttigieg (@PeteButtigieg) August 2, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:07 (two weeks ago) link


what a weird thing to say

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:09 (two weeks ago) link

Not if they’ve got Chasten held at an undisclosed location.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:10 (two weeks ago) link

appropriately chastened

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:14 (two weeks ago) link

Gimme a C
Gimme an I
Gimme an A

F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:15 (two weeks ago) link

Pete was assigned to 'intelligence' when he served in the US army, so he's a member of the club.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:16 (two weeks ago) link

Would be funny if the DOT had its own spooks looking for, I dunno, foreign subversion of air traffic control or something.

Are U down with the BVM (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:26 (two weeks ago) link

I just remembered that the buildings for the Federal Highway Administration and the CIA are adjacent to each other in Virginia.

Are U down with the BVM (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:27 (two weeks ago) link

Boring: sorry, nope, the FHWA facility adjacent to CIA HQ is just a test track. Their headquarters is in SE.

your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 4 August 2022 00:32 (one week ago) link

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