Defend The Indefensible: Wordle

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed

This garbage psy-op robot nonsense has taken over a significant percentage of my social media feeds. What's worse, its adherents seem to be extremely defensive about any and all criticism of their willful perversion of the signal-to-noise ratio. A pox on all of thee.

https://josiegirlblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Screen-Shot-2022-02-06-at-2.07.26-PM-1024x1010.jpg

bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 04:29 (two months ago) link

Octordle is better

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 04:34 (two months ago) link

oh yes, I forgot to rant about the tiresome and inevitable copycat spinoffs that will continue for the rest of time

bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 04:37 (two months ago) link

I think its neat that it's a one-a-day thing and everyone gets the same word. the communal aspect of that is cool & I like that it only asks for a couple minutes of your day. watching Twitter bitch about a word like TACIT is kinda fun

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 04:42 (two months ago) link

Tbh, I don't see it in my Twitter feed as much as I did a month ago, though I'm still playing and enjoying it. I usually do it when I'm making coffee in the morning, and I agree that it's nice to have a little 5-minute diversion once a day.

jaymc, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 04:47 (two months ago) link

like I'm actually kind of charmed that there's a popular game that does NOT encourage people to play it as much as possible. makes me feel like someone actually respects my time

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 04:49 (two months ago) link

Agree with these last few, although these days I kind of enjoy the quordle challenge more. Someone I know described wordle itself as an amuse-bouche which I thought was fair and apt.

Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 04:52 (two months ago) link

I stopped posting my 🖼 on social media a while back, probably only did it a few times anyway.

Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 04:53 (two months ago) link

love wordle and only see it on socials a little any more.

Spottie, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 04:54 (two months ago) link

Yeah, I've only ever shared a result a few times, but wgaf if people want to do it every day. It's better than seeing corny self affirmation graphics and other people's horoscope memes.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 05:06 (two months ago) link

I play and enjoy, wouldn’t really think to post results on socials but I have a few Wordle pals with whom it is fun to compare experiences - feel a small dose of wholesome fun is allowed IMO

Was surprised when it was sold to the NYT for a “low six figure sum”, felt it was probably worth quite a bit more

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 06:06 (two months ago) link

I play and enjoy, wouldn’t really think to post results on socials but I have a few Wordle pals with whom it is fun to compare experiences - feel a small dose of wholesome fun is allowed IMO

Was surprised when it was sold to the NYT for a “low six figure sum”, felt it was probably worth quite a bit more

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 06:06 (two months ago) link

It’s an easy & fun puzzle to do over a cup of tea

The once-a-day release and the social aspect (plus the visual aspect of the squares &c) is the inspired part for sure, it’s been said enough times but during the pandemic these low-stakes communal experiences are particularly appreciated. Same goes for that spelling bee thing that I don’t play because not free (also I played a trial version and it said LING is not a word which anyone who’s ever done a crossword might have something to say about)

ok what the fuck is happening in the uk (rain) (wins), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 07:21 (two months ago) link

OP needs to get some perspective

ignore the blue line (or something), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 08:27 (two months ago) link

what's psy op abt it?

i think its ok. what wins said about spelling bee, the creator of that needs a heavy punishment beating. most days

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 08:39 (two months ago) link

i will never take time from my busy important life to play a daily word game but i greatly like the way wordle's soothing untranslateable abstract pattern pops up to interrupt the relentless harshness of my war-torn TL its like visual ASMR from donald judd

mark s, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 11:35 (two months ago) link

Once I realized there was no skill involved, and heaps of luck, and few don't eventually guess the word, I quickly stopped playing. But I concede there's probably something soothing to that for some folks. Not everything has to be doing the Times crossword in pen with the timer going.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 11:39 (two months ago) link

lest we forget (images lost to time):
mastermind, the game

mark s, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 11:45 (two months ago) link

^pvmic

Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 11:54 (two months ago) link

played Mastermind a lot as a kid

anyway was coming here to agree with you all that Wordle hate is futile (and passe) in March 2022 but I did just see #WordleTheAlbum trending on UK Twitter so

imago, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 11:55 (two months ago) link

Yes, let's reserve our hate for the Wordle Movie (coming spring 2024)

Vinnie, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 12:25 (two months ago) link

Sounds like a Pokemon character already.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 12:30 (two months ago) link

I love Quordle and play it every day. So does my bf and my mom. Idk why anybody wouldn’t enjoy it except that they find people sharing their results tiresome, but it was fun the other day to scratch my head at JUNTO and Google “junto” and get back all these people on Twitter screaming “wtf is a JUNTO?!”

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 12:33 (two months ago) link

^seconded

Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 12:51 (two months ago) link

It seems like the bulk of people came to Wordle very late in its run (the first time I remember seeing results shared en masse was somewhere in the 190s), so I have to imagine many of the most familiar words had already dropped off the list before people noticed it. I suspect it will be a very long time before we see a word repeated, but ones in common usage will be fewer and farther between until then.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 12:54 (two months ago) link

I do find the copycats thing annoying as they spring up so quickly it feels cynical and like skilled people not busy enough in their job are just hanging around waiting for someone else to prove something is worth their precious time and effort. Ah wait this has kinda been my life MO minus the actual success and now I am too busy.

nashwan, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 13:20 (two months ago) link

This garbage psy-op robot nonsense

look dude I understand not wanting to have any part of the latest trend but you clearly don't even understand what Wordle is

aegis philbin (crüt), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 13:51 (two months ago) link

to be clear i'm not a Wordle "adherent" and i don't post about Wordle on social media - but it's really actually harmless

aegis philbin (crüt), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 13:52 (two months ago) link

@ johnny fever are you suggesting that ..... we are running out of words after 200 games?

.....

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 14:00 (two months ago) link

Nope, I'm just guessing that Wardle, when developing the game, probably used a lot of commonly used words first before poring over his dictionary for stretching out the game's lifespan. NYT is still following the original game's numbering and wordlist afaik, so the words are only going to get more obscure before it circles around and gets easy again.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 14:09 (two months ago) link

so its creator is called Wardle ffs

imago, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 14:13 (two months ago) link

I feel this fact will have been discussed to death on corners of the web I've thankfully not encountered yet

imago, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 14:14 (two months ago) link

some words that have already appeared as answers: rebut, humph, whelp, wooer, agora (last one removed by nyt). i'm guessing he randomised the list (of 2315 words, enough for over 6 years of gameplay), which was already had very obscure words filtered out by his girlfriend.

ledge, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 14:16 (two months ago) link

wooer some bullshit

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 14:18 (two months ago) link

Semantle is better

sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 14:20 (two months ago) link

I like it because it's only once a day--it's impossible to develop the kind of addiction I have to internet Scrabble and internet backgammon. Half the time I forget to even check for that day's Wordle. I've done about 40--only got it in two once. I don't think I'd ever post on Facebook about it...though I do post Scrabble screenshots here and on Facebook.

clemenza, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 14:20 (two months ago) link

It seems like the bulk of people came to Wordle very late in its run (the first time I remember seeing results shared en masse was somewhere in the 190s), so I have to imagine many of the most familiar words had already dropped off the list before people noticed it.

(xps & ledge has already got there first but)

I agree that this could happen (though have not paused to guess how many five letter words might be reasonably familiar to most people) but the 3rd and 4th Wordle answers were "sissy" and "humph"!

Can only imagine the reaction to those on Twitter now, "sissy" with a triple letter and a word I would not care to use in conversation unless very obviously joking, and "humph" right on the onomatopoeic word-or-not faultline (although I think it came up in Dordle or Quordle or Octordle recently).

(Yes I have been playing all 4 of these games lately; Wordle is a nice quick thing to do when you have a spare minute, and Quordle hits the a better sweet spot for actual puzzliness for me. Octordle is just too much, although possibly only because the UI is horrible and you can only see two of the words at once.)

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 14:25 (two months ago) link

Once I realized there was no skill involved, and heaps of luck

Half agree with this. One weird thing is that getting it in two (where's there's at least some reasoning involved) is more impressive than getting it in one (100% blind luck). I feel like I've used a lot of reasoning in the ones I've gotten in three and four.

clemenza, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 14:28 (two months ago) link

I mean there’s the same amount of luck involved as other letter guessing games like wheel of fortune & hangman

ok what the fuck is happening in the uk (rain) (wins), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 14:30 (two months ago) link

xp yes, picking a second or third guess to eliminate as many alternatives as possible is definitely something you can do to improve on blind luck.

here's a few out of many non obscure words in the last 50 or so (apologies if anyone remembers this six years from now and complains about spoilers): hello, adult, rival, piece.

ledge, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 14:31 (two months ago) link

I'd say getting it in 2 is mostly just luck, though you can boost your chances a bit, and there can be a large amount of luck even with the 3s; if you're unlucky and/or don't pause to think through all the options you can lose, but most players will get there in less than 6 most days. So from the game design point of view Wordle is not perfect, but it's a fun enough pastime for a tea break, anyway.

And I admit when I see the green and yellow squares popping up I mostly think "nobody cares how many you got it in" (but yes, I've still talked about the day's puzzles online, so guilty too) but it's kind of nice to see the internet talking about something so harmless imo.

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 14:38 (two months ago) link

Working from home, I get to watch a TV quiz show called "Lingo".

This, basically, is the same as Wordle. Or so it seems.

I have not signed onto "Wordle" or anything similar, as the TV show is enough already.

Mark G, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 14:39 (two months ago) link

(xp to self) Or, a month ago there were a lot of squares on my timeline and I'd think "nobody cares" but now there aren't so many, so when they do pop up it can be vaguely interesting to see if I can work backwards a bit to guess what word the poster started with.

(If I know them well enough to care at all what random words they typed into a webpage, which tbh is probably a stupid thing to think about at all.)

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 14:40 (two months ago) link

I just tried Semantle! God it is hard. I guessed the second-closest word on my 25th guess then spent my next twenty guesses on variations of that word instead of... something immediately adjacent to that word

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 15:44 (two months ago) link

Wordle is fine. I'm less interested in it now that it's on the Times website, and presumably will be paywalled soon. I still do them some days. It was fun when it was just a random web thing, sort of felt like a 90s internet throwback. I knew it wouldn't last that way.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 15:47 (two months ago) link

I think its neat that it's a one-a-day thing and everyone gets the same word. the communal aspect of that is cool & I like that it only asks for a couple minutes of your day. watching Twitter bitch about a word like TACIT is kinda fun

Yeah, this. I don't post my own results on social media, but my wife and text them to each other every morning, and I'll occasionally chime in on someone else's Wordle post. I think it's a charming little game, with a charming little backstory, and it's charming that the dude got a million bucks from the NYT for something he made just for fun. Hard for me to see the harm.

my wife and I, that should say.

man alive otm

Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 15:53 (two months ago) link

the original site's code was 100% client-side so you could just save the webpage to your computer and it would work offline for another 6 years until it runs out of words. i.e. it was made in a way thats impossible to paywall. the times basically just bought the name & idea.

ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 16:00 (two months ago) link

My favorite thing was the pissy person on Twitter who scraped the word list from the code and made a bot that would post spoilers for tomorrow's word on everyone's results, I have never been irritated by something so much that it made me go out of my way to be an ass to people I don't know

castanuts (DJP), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 16:05 (two months ago) link

quality article today, appreciated the "both sides" approach to the topic

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Thursday, 5 May 2022 21:40 (two weeks ago) link

29 ??????????? 305 27.21%

none of my usual starts got me anything numbers, letters, continents, colours, countries. the spider sex thing was the first foothold and that was a bit of a red herring

koogs, Thursday, 5 May 2022 22:55 (two weeks ago) link

seems, now I've read all the hidden text, i wasn't the only one, just the slowest

koogs, Thursday, 5 May 2022 22:57 (two weeks ago) link

94 guesses / 36.17%

This was a fun one

I had "animal" and "food" and after trying "carnivore", "herbivore" and "omnivore" which all had 0 results, I just went with the obvious alternative

silverfish, Thursday, 5 May 2022 23:09 (two weeks ago) link

31 guesses, had species early on, spent a lot of time thinking rather than guessing. I was also was fixated on sex but that gave me the clue, something done by the male to the female 'before, during or after copulation' made me think of spiders.

buffalo tomozzarella (ledge), Friday, 6 May 2022 12:49 (two weeks ago) link

If Redactle had it's own thread, every post would look like this.

Jaq, Friday, 6 May 2022 16:12 (two weeks ago) link

i do hate how hard it is to do hidden test on a phone. the square brackets aren't even on the alt page of the google keyboard but on the alt-alt-page

anyway, today, had narrowed it down by guess 20, now have to conjure the exact word out of my head and i'm not sure it's in there.

koogs, Friday, 6 May 2022 17:12 (two weeks ago) link

#30 in 17 @ 64.71% - island as first guess, with Sea, English, Spanish, America main waypoints getting me there. Annoyingly, I miscounted the letters before the first 'sea' so kept thinking it wasn't Caribbean despite all the things pointing that way (tho I might have expected more hits from my Bahamas, Bermuda, Jamaica guesses). Still have a bad habit of colouring in - like I can see island ***** is going to be island chain so there's no need for me to enter 'chain' yet I cannot resist after 3 or 4 nothing guesses.

woof, Friday, 6 May 2022 17:18 (two weeks ago) link

Redactle #30 in 8 with 87.50% accuracy

Got island in 2, then Antigua and Jamaica shortly after but for a minute I thought I couldn't think of any more seven-letter island countries in the Caribbean. A relief not to have fucked it up after a flying start

Alba, Friday, 6 May 2022 17:18 (two weeks ago) link

I solved today's Redactle (#30) in 143 guesses with an accuracy of 67.13%. Played at https://www.redactle.com/

Started strong but French colonization was my entry but I didn't think of Grenada and France

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 6 May 2022 18:02 (two weeks ago) link

#30 71 / 63%

I think I'm ok with higher guess counts as I do like to fill out sentences so that I can glean context and info from them. Getting to the right answer is already hard enough that I don't feel the need to min/max this game as I would with Wordle.

Human-shaped trash bag (Leee), Friday, 6 May 2022 18:06 (two weeks ago) link

Redactle #30 in 41 guesses with an accuracy of 63.41%

I should have had this in about 25. I had island and west indies. I threw a bunch of island names randomly instead of before trying "French" which narrowed it down a bit

silverfish, Friday, 6 May 2022 18:11 (two weeks ago) link

I know the point of redactle is trying to get it in the least amount of guesses, but I play it more like I need to get the answer as quick as possible, which means rapidly typing a lot of related words sometimes just in case they get hits.

silverfish, Friday, 6 May 2022 18:16 (two weeks ago) link

15 guesses and I know what it is but I don't know what it is.

buffalo tomozzarella (ledge), Friday, 6 May 2022 18:19 (two weeks ago) link

same, at about 30 guesses then looked at the list of 70 books for the jubilee knowing there were commonwealth authors on there and sure enough... wasn't something i'd've got

koogs, Friday, 6 May 2022 21:38 (two weeks ago) link

19 which is a lot better than I've been doing recently

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Friday, 6 May 2022 21:43 (two weeks ago) link

Redactle #30 in all of 350 guesses with an accuracy of 65.43%

couldn’t for the life of me think of another Caribbean island with a cricket tradition besides… Trinidad and… Tobago. filled a lot more blanks than ever before, which must count for something

middot • is • my • middle • name (breastcrawl), Friday, 6 May 2022 22:16 (two weeks ago) link

bit of a slog today (205 guesses)...book=1 and author=0 early on sent me down other paths

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Saturday, 7 May 2022 16:56 (two weeks ago) link

#31
You solved it in 247 guesses
Your accuracy was 23.08%

abyssmal. last 50 of those were getting the second word

koogs, Saturday, 7 May 2022 17:48 (two weeks ago) link

#30 i got barbados, bermuda, barbuda even. it wasn't those

#31 see seandalai's hidden text. so many 0s.

koogs, Saturday, 7 May 2022 17:52 (two weeks ago) link

#30 the crib sheet i mentioned was the jubilee reading list of 70 novels from around the commonwealth, one of those was from the island in question

koogs, Saturday, 7 May 2022 17:53 (two weeks ago) link

I solved today's Redactle (#31) in 157 guesses with an accuracy of 33.12%. Played at https://www.redactle.com/

Star Trek: Strange New Wordles (Leee), Saturday, 7 May 2022 17:59 (two weeks ago) link

I did ok today (87 guesses), but the actual article is kind of shoddy

rob, Saturday, 7 May 2022 18:08 (two weeks ago) link

Of all things, Aristotle put me on the right track.

Star Trek: Strange New Wordles (Leee), Saturday, 7 May 2022 18:28 (two weeks ago) link

So bad at redactle.

Jeff, Saturday, 7 May 2022 18:29 (two weeks ago) link

101 / 41.58%, yeah very odd article. Tried guesses about writing early on with few hits so it was only out of a lack of any other ideas that I tried 'prose' and 'poetry', then I thought it was going to be something super obscure in that area so it was only a stab in the dark when I guessed the first word, but then I got the second straight away.

buffalo tomozzarella (ledge), Saturday, 7 May 2022 18:39 (two weeks ago) link

Redactle #31 in 167 with just 29.34% accuracy. Scratching around all over the place.

Alba, Saturday, 7 May 2022 21:56 (two weeks ago) link

#31 in 77 absolute crawl - nothing useful till 'poetry' at 60 but relatively fast after that. Agreed, a weird article

woof, Sunday, 8 May 2022 11:34 (two weeks ago) link

#32 in 48 fine enough though I took some unwise linguistics and mythology side streets; turns out that "saints" doesn't count as a match for "saints'" which is a bit annoying but probably didn't make much difference in the end

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Sunday, 8 May 2022 16:44 (two weeks ago) link

still Wordling but there's not much to say about it at this point

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Sunday, 8 May 2022 16:44 (two weeks ago) link

ha. i actually beat someone

#32
You solved it in 46 guesses
Your accuracy was 60.87%

koogs, Sunday, 8 May 2022 16:45 (two weeks ago) link

(we could do with a redactle thread given that wordle doesn't get much of a look on these days. although jaq has a point)

koogs, Sunday, 8 May 2022 16:47 (two weeks ago) link

redactle in 55, really should've gotten it as soon as i had "is one of the four"

, Sunday, 8 May 2022 17:34 (two weeks ago) link

Got it in 7 today, best I’ve done by miles

crisp, Sunday, 8 May 2022 18:08 (two weeks ago) link

Ah no I got Lagos in 8 a while back but everything else is like 50 plus (including ‘rope’ in just 178)

crisp, Sunday, 8 May 2022 18:10 (two weeks ago) link

137, clueless till I finally guessed 'when' about ten guesses earlier.

buffalo tomozzarella (ledge), Sunday, 8 May 2022 18:20 (two weeks ago) link

Redactle #32 in 3

Alba, Sunday, 8 May 2022 18:39 (two weeks ago) link

America -> fall -> autumn. I thought - this is autumn on after the first go. Should have just gone for glory but thought I'd hedge my bets by first checking fall on the grounds it might be useful if autumn was wrong

Alba, Sunday, 8 May 2022 18:42 (two weeks ago) link

37 guesses, 52% - hurray baseball

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 8 May 2022 18:46 (two weeks ago) link

would be interested to hear Alba's thought process - what was the clue?

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Sunday, 8 May 2022 21:04 (two weeks ago) link

The intro looked like “xxxxxx, also known as yyyy in” and that was backed up by the repeated xxxxxx (yyyy) in the bibliography. I immediately had four-letter words prom and camp going through my mind but didn’t get that what followed was “American English” as I was too set on it being a country or range of cultures. Despite that I took a punt on America being mentioned somewhere (as part of Latin America or South America) as it seemed like it was some phenomenon that was known in different parts of the world and I quite often throw America and American in there as early guesses. There was some sense of it being timed differently in different places (“on and around”) and the way that America came up just made me think harder about the four letter word and then fall/autumn hit me. Should really have gone straight to autumn then but went fall first in case it wasn’t autumn and fall was useful elsewhere.

Alba, Sunday, 8 May 2022 21:44 (two weeks ago) link

I don't try to count letters on Redactle, I just guess words and when I get one right I guess more words in the same subject, and if I manage to do it by myself then that's the win for me.

boxedjoy, Monday, 9 May 2022 08:19 (one week ago) link

#32 in 65 - I had a useful chunk of that first sentence by guess 9 - "something, also known as something in something something, is one of the four something somethings" but got lost in virtues, vices, humours, saints, feasts, churchy stuff (especially as that was getting me crumbs), forgetting a VERY OBVIOUS thing that there are four of. A small technical curiosity or annoyance - I've just noticed it didn't fill in saints' for my saints guess.

woof, Monday, 9 May 2022 10:01 (one week ago) link

Nice work Alba btw!

woof, Monday, 9 May 2022 10:02 (one week ago) link

Started a new thread -
______ the ____________: Redactle

woof, Monday, 9 May 2022 10:49 (one week ago) link

Weird that my two sisters got FETUS as their word today while my brother and I got SHINE as our word. WTF is NYT doing?

john shopkins (naus), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 04:56 (one week ago) link

^ Sorry, that’s an actual Wordle comment

john shopkins (naus), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 05:29 (one week ago) link

that happens whenever there's a word NYT removed from the master list (like fetus, unsurprisingly)

, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 06:16 (one week ago) link

still mad about the time Quordle used "AORTA"

frogbs, Thursday, 19 May 2022 18:24 (three days ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.