Defend The Indefensible: Wordle

This garbage psy-op robot nonsense has taken over a significant percentage of my social media feeds. What's worse, its adherents seem to be extremely defensive about any and all criticism of their willful perversion of the signal-to-noise ratio. A pox on all of thee.

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Octordle is better

oh yes, I forgot to rant about the tiresome and inevitable copycat spinoffs that will continue for the rest of time

I think its neat that it's a one-a-day thing and everyone gets the same word. the communal aspect of that is cool & I like that it only asks for a couple minutes of your day. watching Twitter bitch about a word like TACIT is kinda fun

Tbh, I don't see it in my Twitter feed as much as I did a month ago, though I'm still playing and enjoying it. I usually do it when I'm making coffee in the morning, and I agree that it's nice to have a little 5-minute diversion once a day.

like I'm actually kind of charmed that there's a popular game that does NOT encourage people to play it as much as possible. makes me feel like someone actually respects my time

Agree with these last few, although these days I kind of enjoy the quordle challenge more. Someone I know described wordle itself as an amuse-bouche which I thought was fair and apt.

I stopped posting my 🖼 on social media a while back, probably only did it a few times anyway.

love wordle and only see it on socials a little any more.

Yeah, I've only ever shared a result a few times, but wgaf if people want to do it every day. It's better than seeing corny self affirmation graphics and other people's horoscope memes.

I play and enjoy, wouldn’t really think to post results on socials but I have a few Wordle pals with whom it is fun to compare experiences - feel a small dose of wholesome fun is allowed IMO

Was surprised when it was sold to the NYT for a “low six figure sum”, felt it was probably worth quite a bit more

I play and enjoy, wouldn’t really think to post results on socials but I have a few Wordle pals with whom it is fun to compare experiences - feel a small dose of wholesome fun is allowed IMO

Was surprised when it was sold to the NYT for a “low six figure sum”, felt it was probably worth quite a bit more

It’s an easy & fun puzzle to do over a cup of tea

The once-a-day release and the social aspect (plus the visual aspect of the squares &c) is the inspired part for sure, it’s been said enough times but during the pandemic these low-stakes communal experiences are particularly appreciated. Same goes for that spelling bee thing that I don’t play because not free (also I played a trial version and it said LING is not a word which anyone who’s ever done a crossword might have something to say about)

OP needs to get some perspective

what's psy op abt it?

i think its ok. what wins said about spelling bee, the creator of that needs a heavy punishment beating. most days

i will never take time from my busy important life to play a daily word game but i greatly like the way wordle's soothing untranslateable abstract pattern pops up to interrupt the relentless harshness of my war-torn TL its like visual ASMR from donald judd

Once I realized there was no skill involved, and heaps of luck, and few don't eventually guess the word, I quickly stopped playing. But I concede there's probably something soothing to that for some folks. Not everything has to be doing the Times crossword in pen with the timer going.

lest we forget (images lost to time):
mastermind, the game

^pvmic

played Mastermind a lot as a kid

anyway was coming here to agree with you all that Wordle hate is futile (and passe) in March 2022 but I did just see #WordleTheAlbum trending on UK Twitter so

Yes, let's reserve our hate for the Wordle Movie (coming spring 2024)

Sounds like a Pokemon character already.

I love Quordle and play it every day. So does my bf and my mom. Idk why anybody wouldn’t enjoy it except that they find people sharing their results tiresome, but it was fun the other day to scratch my head at JUNTO and Google “junto” and get back all these people on Twitter screaming “wtf is a JUNTO?!”

^seconded

It seems like the bulk of people came to Wordle very late in its run (the first time I remember seeing results shared en masse was somewhere in the 190s), so I have to imagine many of the most familiar words had already dropped off the list before people noticed it. I suspect it will be a very long time before we see a word repeated, but ones in common usage will be fewer and farther between until then.

I do find the copycats thing annoying as they spring up so quickly it feels cynical and like skilled people not busy enough in their job are just hanging around waiting for someone else to prove something is worth their precious time and effort. Ah wait this has kinda been my life MO minus the actual success and now I am too busy.

This garbage psy-op robot nonsense

look dude I understand not wanting to have any part of the latest trend but you clearly don't even understand what Wordle is

to be clear i'm not a Wordle "adherent" and i don't post about Wordle on social media - but it's really actually harmless

@ johnny fever are you suggesting that ..... we are running out of words after 200 games?

.....

Nope, I'm just guessing that Wardle, when developing the game, probably used a lot of commonly used words first before poring over his dictionary for stretching out the game's lifespan. NYT is still following the original game's numbering and wordlist afaik, so the words are only going to get more obscure before it circles around and gets easy again.

so its creator is called Wardle ffs

I feel this fact will have been discussed to death on corners of the web I've thankfully not encountered yet

some words that have already appeared as answers: rebut, humph, whelp, wooer, agora (last one removed by nyt). i'm guessing he randomised the list (of 2315 words, enough for over 6 years of gameplay), which was already had very obscure words filtered out by his girlfriend.

wooer some bullshit

Semantle is better

I like it because it's only once a day--it's impossible to develop the kind of addiction I have to internet Scrabble and internet backgammon. Half the time I forget to even check for that day's Wordle. I've done about 40--only got it in two once. I don't think I'd ever post on Facebook about it...though I do post Scrabble screenshots here and on Facebook.

It seems like the bulk of people came to Wordle very late in its run (the first time I remember seeing results shared en masse was somewhere in the 190s), so I have to imagine many of the most familiar words had already dropped off the list before people noticed it.

(xps & ledge has already got there first but)

I agree that this could happen (though have not paused to guess how many five letter words might be reasonably familiar to most people) but the 3rd and 4th Wordle answers were "sissy" and "humph"!

Can only imagine the reaction to those on Twitter now, "sissy" with a triple letter and a word I would not care to use in conversation unless very obviously joking, and "humph" right on the onomatopoeic word-or-not faultline (although I think it came up in Dordle or Quordle or Octordle recently).

(Yes I have been playing all 4 of these games lately; Wordle is a nice quick thing to do when you have a spare minute, and Quordle hits the a better sweet spot for actual puzzliness for me. Octordle is just too much, although possibly only because the UI is horrible and you can only see two of the words at once.)

Once I realized there was no skill involved, and heaps of luck

Half agree with this. One weird thing is that getting it in two (where's there's at least some reasoning involved) is more impressive than getting it in one (100% blind luck). I feel like I've used a lot of reasoning in the ones I've gotten in three and four.

I mean there’s the same amount of luck involved as other letter guessing games like wheel of fortune & hangman

xp yes, picking a second or third guess to eliminate as many alternatives as possible is definitely something you can do to improve on blind luck.

here's a few out of many non obscure words in the last 50 or so (apologies if anyone remembers this six years from now and complains about spoilers): hello, adult, rival, piece.

I'd say getting it in 2 is mostly just luck, though you can boost your chances a bit, and there can be a large amount of luck even with the 3s; if you're unlucky and/or don't pause to think through all the options you can lose, but most players will get there in less than 6 most days. So from the game design point of view Wordle is not perfect, but it's a fun enough pastime for a tea break, anyway.

And I admit when I see the green and yellow squares popping up I mostly think "nobody cares how many you got it in" (but yes, I've still talked about the day's puzzles online, so guilty too) but it's kind of nice to see the internet talking about something so harmless imo.

Working from home, I get to watch a TV quiz show called "Lingo".

This, basically, is the same as Wordle. Or so it seems.

I have not signed onto "Wordle" or anything similar, as the TV show is enough already.

(xp to self) Or, a month ago there were a lot of squares on my timeline and I'd think "nobody cares" but now there aren't so many, so when they do pop up it can be vaguely interesting to see if I can work backwards a bit to guess what word the poster started with.

(If I know them well enough to care at all what random words they typed into a webpage, which tbh is probably a stupid thing to think about at all.)

I just tried Semantle! God it is hard. I guessed the second-closest word on my 25th guess then spent my next twenty guesses on variations of that word instead of... something immediately adjacent to that word

Wordle is fine. I'm less interested in it now that it's on the Times website, and presumably will be paywalled soon. I still do them some days. It was fun when it was just a random web thing, sort of felt like a 90s internet throwback. I knew it wouldn't last that way.

I think its neat that it's a one-a-day thing and everyone gets the same word. the communal aspect of that is cool & I like that it only asks for a couple minutes of your day. watching Twitter bitch about a word like TACIT is kinda fun

Yeah, this. I don't post my own results on social media, but my wife and text them to each other every morning, and I'll occasionally chime in on someone else's Wordle post. I think it's a charming little game, with a charming little backstory, and it's charming that the dude got a million bucks from the NYT for something he made just for fun. Hard for me to see the harm.

my wife and I, that should say.

man alive otm

the original site's code was 100% client-side so you could just save the webpage to your computer and it would work offline for another 6 years until it runs out of words. i.e. it was made in a way thats impossible to paywall. the times basically just bought the name & idea.

My favorite thing was the pissy person on Twitter who scraped the word list from the code and made a bot that would post spoilers for tomorrow's word on everyone's results, I have never been irritated by something so much that it made me go out of my way to be an ass to people I don't know

I’ve played strands twice now and it’s way too easy, the unnecessary hint removes all interest. If they add it to the app I’ll play it every day obv

xp ok so I went to the info button (I'm on mobile browser) and got this! clue makes sense now

The Mini Crossword

Wednesday, May 1, 2024

By Joel FaglianoEdited by Sam Ezersky


but on my laptop browser I get today's.

oh wait I see the url on my mobile browser is dated for 1st May. never mind! must've gone to an old one by mistake!

if you want a harder Strands, try Celltower. No theme, and the letters can only go l-r and down.

https://www.andrewt.net/puzzles/cell-tower/?

and you don't know if you've got the right word until the end

For me, Wordle's just too easy if you don't play on hard mode. Like you can just play three opening words that use the (more or less) 15 most common letters and then you'll virtually always guess it in the next one or two.

Much more challenging to have to use any greens or yellows you discover in your subsequent guesses

My daughter's turned me on to Murdle, which is a Clue(do)/logic problem type daily game.

Not sure how long I'll stick at it but enjoying it at the moment

Murdle is fun. I have a book version.

I was pleased to get yesterday's Connections with no mistakes yesterday – even if it took me 10 minutes. Hair salon stuff was just what was left over – I'm usually too impatient to try to work out what the fourth category connection is once I'm sure of other three.

When I get the first three Connections correct I puzzle over the last group before revealing the answer. I would have puzzled over today’s blue group for a million years and not gotten it.

blue today for me was whales the clue list didn't seem that obscure?

Yes, in retrospect. Probably just me being not on the same wavelength.

I got blue first but green almost killed me today.

I didn't get any of them. Crashed out with 4 mistakes. Y'all are cleverer than me

I failed too, but I should've seen the green.

I've been enjoying orderup.xyz thanks to whoever recommended it here, it's usually not very challenging but today I learned that apparently British bathroom = head. As a britisher may I say "huh?" Apparently it's old navy slang, idk maybe I've read it in some 19thc novel but I've never heard anyone say it, maybe they still say it in the upper classes?

idk about britishes usage but head-as-toilet is definitely us navy terminology

got green and yellow in Connections but would never have got the Breach group

Yeah that one threw me too and I also crashed out without solving more than 2 rows, usually I get there. I'm blaming sunday hangover.

Prior to today, did any of you know that Miami was called the Magic City?

i had assumed that was referring to orlando, so i guess not

Yes, but only from Miami bass comps.

I didn’t think about it Orlando, my mind just filled in the name of the strip club and I assumed some city was called that.

I don't even remember yesterday's Connections, but today I got the restaurant courses easily, and then took a chance on sore spots. Then I failed. I would have never figured out the red- items or animal homophones on my own

I solved today's wordle in 4, which considering the final word, I thought my strategy was ok. I don't seem to get words in 3 guesses anymore

The wordlebot is a fraud. Given the first two guesses it chose, there was no way it would get it in three, there were so many choices, but it did get it

former penguins evan rodrigues and cody ceci making their presence felt

lol oops

wordle.xyz defeated me for the first time today

I don't seem to get words in 3 guesses anymore

yeah very infrequent for me now too

have been trying to be lightly strategic (1st guess still generally the first word that comes into my head, but second guess consciously trying to widen the net in a non-hard mode fashion)

but while I am probably getting it in 4 more regularly, this method feels like I'm getting far fewer 3s and 2s

Today's Wordle almost caught me out thanks yet again to fucking US spelling! ^%$%#$

sorry : /

Time for someone to start Wourdle

Trayce! SPOILER (if any mods around could they make it hidden text?)

Ha ha just got a hole in one. RIP my pure stats

Oh god sorry I didnt think it'd be much of a giveaway!

oooh today's word is evil

yeah i thought there was a gentleman’s agreement not to pull shit like that

I luckily wiped out a bunch of consonants in tries 2-4, and got it in 5. Definitely evil

I just was able to slip in with my 6th guess, one of the few times when I needed more than 1 well-breaker.

Sat there at 3 guesses with only the second letter correct and thinking, “could THAT be it? It couldn’t be that…” It is.

I proudly went down with the ship

I got it in 5, thanks to having switched to DJP's opening moves a few weeks ago. Pretty sure I wouldn't have gotten it at all otherwise.

i was staring at it for a couple minutes and typed in the correct answer thinking "whatever, this isn't even a real word"

I got it in 4, mostly because I forgot fizzy was a word

4 over here too and maybe uk/us divide but felt like slightly less common word that virtually every player would know

got it in 6 but somehow got like 95 on skill

Wordle 1,133 4/6

🟩⬜⬜⬜⬜
🟩⬜⬜⬜⬜
🟩⬜⬜⬜⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

A couple of days ago it was - I'm not sure of the rules here, but let's just say it was a French-sounding word, and I remember thinking "but surely it has an accent over the E". But I learn from the internet that the original French word didn't have an e at the end, and in fact (a) it is a legitimate English word (b) it doesn't have an accent at the end.

So at the very least Wordle has taught me one thing. It didn't teach me how to spell millennium two-two. I forced myself to learn that by writing two-two all the time. And accoutrements. I just forced myself to learn that word. I'm still proud of that.

Oh yeah, that word used to be one of my peeves that belies my general descriptivism, but it's a horse that's not getting back in the barn. See the notes here: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/forte

xp same thought process here

I don't think we need to be hiding discussion of words from a few days ago!

Dictionaries insist that pronouncing it the same way a fort is common, even canonical, but I don't think I've ever heard anyone say it that way. Maybe they used to. I think if I tried saying it that way the vast majority of people would assume I'd made a mistake.