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the box with the man and woman who look like a pimp and one of his girls, inside the the coloured pins, the black and white hatpins etc.

break the code! the slogan said

we started to day with a couple of games of it, making gothic combinatioins that conssist entirely of black coloured pins

on anyone's playlist? or bad memories (we had to count all the pins after we played)

erik, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

she had a weird dress, where the shoulder bit was attached to the lower bit with a sort of abacus, no?

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

i'm pretty sure frequent exposure to this game during my formative years has completely inhibited my thought process to the point where i remain unable to be anything but clinically, coldly and ruthlessly logical.

this is not a good attribute in relationships, friendships, etc. yes, that's right - i blame mastermind.

mark p, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

omigod that's a completely ILLOGICAL assertion

mastermind did me in and now it's undone me i am CURED

mark p, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

the man looks like a enter the dragon bad guy really,...that mirrored table, the exotic girlfriend

erik, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

My version is the first one you posted a pic of. I've never seen that third one - which looks worryingly like it's all going to degenerate into some seedy low-budget porn film threesome any minute now.

C J, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

MM1 was MM2's assistant, but bumped him off at the behest of GF1, and took over

MM3 is MM1's useless son obv, a classic "prince-in-waiting" roué dimwit, more interested in banging cocktail waitresses two at a time than Mastering the Game, let alone his mind: when MM1 vanished, GF1 had MM3 quietly garotted — by GF2, naturally.

GF2, MM1's octopussy-lucabrazz,i had never been his lover, stil less MM3's mom (whose death in penury in Eastern Europe in the mid-50s had pushed MM1 into this mode of life). Caring more about the Style of the Game than mere worldly loyalties or passions, GF2 was swiftly suborned when GF1 made appeal to the Aesthetics of Gangster Succession.

GF3/4 were models hired for the photograph.

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Bond is in the building, master, disguised as a comma!!"
"Idiots, must I do everything myself?"

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

bah i got that all confused, cuz i posted the pix in non secret-historical order: second par and after for MM1 read MM2

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

as i recall, the american (canadian?) version was a little more tasteful, but held true to the pimp MM + tie-on GF formula.

i bet if i rooted around mom's basement i could uncover the damn thing

mark p, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mastermind: The Next Generation

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/albaalba/mm/dutchmastermind2.jpg

N., Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

yes yes but which is MM102 and which is GF102 nick? and who is their mom and dad and how did they dispose of the bodies?

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

eff MM:TNG - it looks too suspiciously like a snack-sized battleship

the pimpy mystery (mustery?) of the orig. cover was haff the fun. its what convinced that MY game was way cooler than say, yahtzee or uno or some shit

mark p, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

rejected yahtzee cover:

[restorer's note: this wz some pervy S&M pic relating to GWAR]

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://www.tnelson.demon.co.uk/mastermind/images/disneymastermind2.jpg

N., Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

THE HORROR

N., Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://www.tnelson.demon.co.uk/mastermind/images/mastermindfortyfour1.jpg

Mastermind Episode IV: A New Hope

N., Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

MM4 = MM!! It all fits!! The whole story there for all to read (I saw this when researching earlier in the day, but oh!! I totally missed the significance...).

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

it is an allegory of the post-war history of korea, north and south

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

note how n. has rendered MasterMouse an unperson in this revisionist scandal

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Explain the Grand Mastermind and SENHA conundra.

N., Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"good evening my dear - you do look lovely. fancy a game of improved mastermind?"

mark p, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

i was going to suggest that the amt of women visible on the cover are testiment to how truly masterful any given mastermind is (hence the grand mastermind having two - at his FEET no less) but that certainly doesn't explain the presence of the snivelling dickwad in the Royale Fiasco

mark yr proposed cover would have deterred me from yahtzee forever

mark p, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Grand MM and Senha are both MM3 dicking around w.cocktail waitresses/models again. In Senha, you only see MM3's hand: the "guy" in the mask is also a woman, dressed up.

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

mebbe royale mastermind should be excluded from the speculation because it is clearly a different game anyway

mark p, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

GF1 is the true mastermind, as explained above: she had MM2&3 rubbed out and allowed MM1 to do the MousterMind deal. When Mickey took full charge, she fought back in the virtual realm with a vast computer and digitally generated "solo male hero" images. Her adopted children — one of whom is androidal — now front her rule.

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

hasbro's own yoko

mark p, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Note how MM1 symbolically deflates, down the sequence of the pictures.

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

ahem "speculation"?

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

sorry i got stuck here

mark p, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

My gut feeling is that mark s has completely underestimated the significance of SENHA. I believe it may even be the key to the whole saga. And is the Rodin's Thinker MM any more than a rogue marketing strategem?

N., Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

the thinker one is a clear and deliberate FUCK YOU to whoever possessed ownership of the generally accepted mastermind visage

it was a failed attempt at independence which ultimately proved deadly (GF1 doesn't eff around you see)

this explains why subsequent reissues tidily returned to the standard MM blueprint

mark p, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah but i'm right that it's a woman in drag, no?

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

SENHA i mean, not "the thinker"

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

more key semiotics:

in the early GF1/MM1 phase (which note represent the SECOND actual mastermind historically: MM2 was the first, as seen only in poor ly reproduced pix), the words "mastermind" are tilted to square off with GF1's body. In SENHA — which represents one of MM3's indulged silly-ass games — the word "SENHA" is tilted exactly NOT to square off with anyone. Also it is an anag of "ashen", which is how MM1 looked when he gazed on such poltroonery.

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://www.tnelson.demon.co.uk/mastermind/images/familymastermind1. jpg

mark p, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

In Supersonic Mastermind, the red brainwaves clearly emanate from the head of SHE WHO MUST BE OBEYED, Akasha of Dreadful Aspect. I assume Mickey is a sinister glyph chosen for himself by her brother-lover Enkil, who she detests and battles eternally (and it's mutual, obv).

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

mark: that is another glyph for Enkil. Mickey has absorbed MM1, and adopted his persona; delbierately sloppily (the head is obviously cut out and stuck on). Menace is directed at the children, who represent Akasha's adoptive androids. One wonders if the blode isn't Enkil's mocking figure for his sister Akasha, knowing how she'd loathe to be cast as a jollu blonde in a tight orange sweater.

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

breaking up... signal breaking up... must spell precisel... brea... save y.. selv...

mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

mark s will you write my book for me please?

thanks

mark p, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

*boggles* This thread is its own microcosm.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

God I love this game! played it when we were young, the brown plastic board and those coloured pins. When I grew up I could never find someone to play it with me as much as I wanted - that was just a paper version I mean you don't need the equipment obviously (one variation I think is called cows and bulls, with a bull being the equiv of the black peg, right col right position, and the cow being the white) but I guess it is nicer to see the colour combos but you could easy rig that up on your own too. I'm going to see if there's anywhere I can play this online...

halo halo, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

mmind online

halo halo, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

four months pass...
This was my favourite thread this year. You have a week to change my mind.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 25 December 2002 14:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

i am so sorry i didn't read it the first time around. thanks for the revive nick (and i'm sorry but with the current depleted pool of posters i can't see this being surpassed within a week)

minna (minna), Wednesday, 25 December 2002 15:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

back in the 70's this game helped confirm that I was colourblind - I always got the green & brown ones mixed up. not that they all looked the same, but I'd call the green ones 'brown' and vice versa. to make it more confusing, artificial and natural light reversed the situation (think it was natural light that made me correctly identify those colours).

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 25 December 2002 16:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Women hate beards - survey". BUT NOTE THE 'CONTRADICTORY STREAK'.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 25 December 2002 16:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/images/be-ard.jpeg
Clearly.

Graham (graham), Wednesday, 25 December 2002 17:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thus the faces of Bill and Cecilia – her married name is Masters – have become part of many households.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 00:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, that officially blows my goddamn mind.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 00:21 (nineteen years ago) link

tell me about it!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 00:22 (nineteen years ago) link

SINKAH WHERE ARE U

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 00:23 (nineteen years ago) link

HOLY FUCK

absolutego (ex machina), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 00:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Brilliant.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 00:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, that's pretty great. I miss the 70s.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 00:46 (nineteen years ago) link

she shd have worn her original weird dress

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 07:31 (nineteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
Yes, this game had an impact on my life, i now have a truly exotic girlfriend and this scene is re-enacted everytime she stands behind and to the side of me when I'm on the computer....

JP's, Friday, 27 January 2006 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
oh noes deadly revisionism hath wrought its er masterpiece!

mark s (mark s), Monday, 13 February 2006 21:22 (eighteen years ago) link

This thread needs the images restored

The Equator Lounge (Chris Barrus), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.bggfiles.com/bggimages/pic61925.jpg

The Equator Lounge (Chris Barrus), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link

That reunion story is still one of the greatest things ever.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Mastermind and his ANIMAL BROTHEL

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Johnny Wadd, we never knew ye.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:22 (eighteen years ago) link

http://polskaludowa.com/codzienne/jpg/mini_master_mind.jpg

mark s (mark s), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Who are those nincompoops?

Alba (Alba), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link

chris ideally we need to put the right pictures back in the now-blank spaces :(

i can of course abuse my rogue mod privs to do this :)

if we can find em all

mark s (mark s), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link

alba we need you too for this project!

mark s (mark s), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:43 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.jogos.antigos.nom.br/img/senha.jpg

mark s (mark s), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link

MASTERMIND!! I am excited about this thread. The Polish mini-mastermind cover is awesome. We had the original and a mini one but I'm pretty sure it didn't have those people it.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

http://img.yezzz.com/zm2832905.jpeg

mark s (mark s), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

http://i15.ebayimg.com/05/i/06/37/42/7f_1_b.JPG

The Equator Lounge (Chris Barrus), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I remember loving this game, but I couldn't tell you a thing about how it's played.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link

the polish couple, far-flung minions at best, exploited the lack of media openness behind the iron curtain as then was to pose as MM3 and GFwhatever (though -- as most of the world at that time -- they actually assumed MM2 to be MM1): for a short while they diverted much of the local operation's proceeds into their own deep denim pockets

the matriarch GF1 dispatched the ever-efficient GF2 to sort matters out when she learnt of the clumsy goings-on


mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

ok this is how i remember the missing (alba or anyone else to confirm plz)

Mastermind: The Next Generation = two kids but no adults?

The Eight = includes Super-Sonic (reposted CB just now); Grand Mastermind (ditto); Senha (but not the version I just reposted: features a hand and someone in a mask?); a rodin's thinker issue; and four others? -- i kinda assume replications of the classic format) (i don't think mine at 11.53 and cb's at 11.57 were included in the eight)

but what was "another piece in the puzzle" and who was the "woman who knows all" (posted by n and alba respectively)?

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 00:30 (eighteen years ago) link

these are some of the eight i think: [images moved up-thread by obsessive moderestorator]

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 00:39 (eighteen years ago) link

i will piece these back together tomorrow and delete repeats

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 00:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I was going to say. It's my fault cause I posted the images on my now defunct ISP space. I think I still have the files on my HD to slot into place on, say, my Flickr account, which should be pretty permanent. I WILL EMAIL YOU.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link

hurrah!1 eleven

i may also hyper-abusee the system tudy up the MM1/MM2 confusion which tbh baffles me as much as anyone -- all it is is that i am inconsistent in my naming principle: viz am i using the Real Actual Historical Chronlogy or the Appearances Chronology (ans=i switch around arbitrarily)

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link

(two gaps to go: alba yr replacement code did not work for them -- cf my email)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 26 February 2006 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link

(chris b can i delete some of yr repeats as they are no longer needed?)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 26 February 2006 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link

yay!!

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 26 February 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

but...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/albaalba/mm/pic89406_sized.jpg

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 26 February 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

:0

four holes six colours! it cannot be solved in the space-time continuum as we know it!

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 26 February 2006 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link

(haha i love the final one of the big glut of them right up-page -- "improved" = "melting! melting! oh what a world!")

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 26 February 2006 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Einstein!? This changes everything!

Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 26 February 2006 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

it's just a painting!

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 26 February 2006 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

of grandpa walton:
http://www.nndb.com/people/929/000043800/geer.jpg

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 26 February 2006 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Grandpa Walton doesn't play dice.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 26 February 2006 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

Oh, it's still okay to run with "Oriental woman" in the UK?

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 5 May 2014 17:07 (ten years ago) link

I noticed that too. Not in the national press I'd say.

Alba, Monday, 5 May 2014 17:12 (ten years ago) link

Anyway, this was 2013. Different times.

Alba, Monday, 5 May 2014 17:13 (ten years ago) link

lol

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 5 May 2014 17:22 (ten years ago) link

six years pass...

Outstanding.

pic.twitter.com/nki3IsMvOC

— Stuart Houghton (@stuarthoughton) January 18, 2021

Alba, Monday, 18 January 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link


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