8 ARMS TO HOLD THE STANLEY CUP THE NHL 2021-2022 SEASON THREAD (INCLUDING LIGHTNING HANGOVER AND KRACKEN SHENANIGANS. HOCKEY IS THE BEST)

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Odds on a 2021-2022 season starting on time?

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 19 July 2021 12:46 (eleven months ago) link

❤️🧡💛💚💙💜 pic.twitter.com/7zqT0A2gJj

— luke prokop (@lukeprokop_6) July 19, 2021

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl-predators-prokop-announcement-1.6108113

very cool moment

symsymsym, Monday, 19 July 2021 17:14 (eleven months ago) link

Very nice

Vegas got Fleury, does Seattle take Price? Seems risky/expensive, but they have basically a full cap to work with.

Hoping Josh Bailey remains an Islander for life, although he was exposed last time too.

Michael F Gill, Monday, 19 July 2021 17:30 (eleven months ago) link

https://theathletic.com/2711747/2021/07/19/luke-prokop/

unlocked interview

symsymsym, Monday, 19 July 2021 21:33 (eleven months ago) link

price is prone to injury. fleury's issues were different, if i recall correctly, where it was him mostly not performing for a long while when his team needed him. so, i don't know if it's a fair comparison.

i think it'd be a bad move for seattle to acquire price, but i assume he actually really wants that to happen. he is in the last stage of his career and would most likely retire there and be close to family, so it makes sense for him.

i feel like they'll take holtby, though.

Punster McPunisher, Tuesday, 20 July 2021 15:54 (eleven months ago) link

I'd take holtby or quick before price

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 15:59 (eleven months ago) link

so sounds like kraken's not taking any expensive players?

symsymsym, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 18:02 (eleven months ago) link

I haven’t heard of half of these drafted players. Supposedly they were no side deals.

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 22 July 2021 01:55 (eleven months ago) link

weird

sean gramophone, Thursday, 22 July 2021 01:57 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah, you would think that Seattle would try to copy what LV did.

This time around teams may have been better at not leaving exposed players they would actually hurt to lose.

Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu Rob Thomas (PBKR), Thursday, 22 July 2021 02:06 (eleven months ago) link

They did copy LV in the fact that they drafted a Fleury.

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 22 July 2021 02:28 (eleven months ago) link

pens fan here (as i've probably mentioned before itt). pretty bummed that they basically got two penguins out of this thing. one of which actually hurts a little: mccann via toronto after he spent like two days as a leaf on paper. tanev's a trip, but gonna miss jared.

andrew m., Thursday, 22 July 2021 13:53 (eleven months ago) link

anybody else watch this thing live? chris fowler was so bad. painful to watch at times.

andrew m., Thursday, 22 July 2021 13:55 (eleven months ago) link

The NFL-ization of side events is second only to extortive owners

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 22 July 2021 14:11 (eleven months ago) link

xpost was he the one who called the Hurricanes the Carolina Panthers

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 July 2021 14:26 (eleven months ago) link

i missed that part! but it sounds about right. overall just a terribly awkward performance. with the move to espn, makes me worry that we'll have to suffer through him forever now.

andrew m., Thursday, 22 July 2021 15:39 (eleven months ago) link

They did copy LV in the fact that they drafted a Fleury.

Two Fleurys! They'll be twice as good as Vegas

symsymsym, Thursday, 22 July 2021 16:40 (eleven months ago) link

are the kraken now one of the biggest and heaviest teams?

all their d men are at least 200 lbs and 6 feet tall (except for gavin bayreuther)

and they have the two biggest players in the nhl in oleksiak (6'7", 255 lbs) and macdermid (6'5", 233 lbs)

the nucks are going to get pushed around unless we get some bigger boys

Punster McPunisher, Thursday, 22 July 2021 17:01 (eleven months ago) link

re: the penguins, i'm sure they would rather have lost pettersson or zucker, but with a flat salary cap, room must be made. everyone loves tanev but he's a fourth-liner with four years left on his contract who's about to turn 30 (and his injuries are only going to mount with the way he plays)

mccann is a more significant loss, but he too is in the pens' bottom six when everyone's healthy, and you can't have everything. (i have seen him tentatively penciled in as seattle's no. 1 center lol.) they *should* be able to get bottom-six help more cheaply, perhaps leaving room to upgrade the goaltending

every half-decent team is desperate to shed salary; at least the penguins didn't have to embarrass everyone involved by trading away draft picks just to get arizona to take on their shitty contracts, e.g. flyers/ghost bear and islanders/ladd

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 July 2021 20:46 (eleven months ago) link

Yes thank you Arizona for taking the contracts no one wants. Islander fans feel it was a fair deal for the most part, lol.

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 22 July 2021 21:12 (eleven months ago) link

You have to admire the way Paul Holmgren has it in for the Flyers.

Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu Rob Thomas (PBKR), Friday, 23 July 2021 18:33 (eleven months ago) link

Just popped in to post a picture of when the Stanley Cup showed up at a Rush show I saw, which is among the most hockey things ever:

https://i.imgur.com/36I4fSP.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 July 2021 18:43 (eleven months ago) link

congratulations to the handful of teams that *didn’t* wildly overpay for bad expensive defensemen today

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 July 2021 01:01 (eleven months ago) link

otoh at least the flyers, blackhawks and canucks didn’t draft a sex offender (yet)

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 July 2021 04:03 (eleven months ago) link

The Flyers had Billy Tibbets years back (but so did the Pens, iirc), so they have already checked that on their organizational bingo card.

Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu Rob Thomas (PBKR), Saturday, 24 July 2021 11:11 (eleven months ago) link

kraken dman jamie oleksiak's sister is penny, a canadian swimmer, who is doing very well in several events in the summer olympics

Punster McPunisher, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 01:55 (eleven months ago) link

Did not expect Vegas to trade Fleury to the Blackhawks for a prospect, and then Fleury saying he might retire in response.

Caps resigning Ovi for five more years seems more normal, but am wondering what his age 40 year will be like.

Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 21:40 (eleven months ago) link

all of western pennsylvania wants the return of MAF, for better or worse (though neither hextall nor burke are likely to be sentimental about it)

mookieproof, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 00:40 (eleven months ago) link

pretty comfortable with the penguins doing very little so far -- the only deal i'm honestly envious of is dougie hamilton's, and they had nowhere near the room. i guess hextall does have a rep (unlike jim rutherford) of not making deals for the sake of it

might have taken (pittsburgh's own) brandon saad at that price, but that's about it

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 July 2021 20:01 (eleven months ago) link

I wonder if Hextall is really there for the inevitable tear down/rebuild more than anything.

Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu Rob Thomas (PBKR), Thursday, 29 July 2021 20:36 (eleven months ago) link

perry to tampa is very heartbreaking

sean gramophone, Thursday, 29 July 2021 22:08 (eleven months ago) link

xp i'm still not clear on why rutherford suddenly abdicated in january; i think hextall was just the best available candidate (i cannot explain burke's involvement at all)

pens did win their division and had excellent advanced stats, so i'm not sure tearing it all down because the goaltending was an utter disaster vs. the isles makes sense . . . but of course they haven't addressed the goaltending either

tbh i don't think ownership will allow hextall to tear it down yet. they might not re-sign malkin or letang after next year -- much more likely to let letang go, i'd imagine -- but crosby (and probably malkin?) is there as long as he wants to be. which i'm fine with

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 July 2021 23:30 (eleven months ago) link

Not suggesting they will tear it down yet, just that Crosby/Malkin can't be good for too much longer and then . . . .

Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu Rob Thomas (PBKR), Friday, 30 July 2021 04:05 (eleven months ago) link

i'm still not convinced pens fans' goaltender panic is warranted, but i too am fine with just minor tweaks to the roster cuz i like what so many of them bring and the chemistry has largely been solid. gonna remain butthurt about mccann for awhile though. on the other hand, as a "reba" fan, we have a brock now. HAAIIEEE!

andrew m., Friday, 30 July 2021 14:05 (eleven months ago) link

;_;

After a Hall-of-Fame career and 46 years of broadcasting Pittsburgh Penguins hockey, Mike Lange will be retiring from his play-by-play duties.

Ladies and gentlemen, Elvis has just left the building.

Thank you, Mikey: https://t.co/zMePmPrTmM pic.twitter.com/M4jForHpSq

— Pittsburgh Penguins (@penguins) August 9, 2021

mookieproof, Monday, 9 August 2021 15:47 (ten months ago) link

well scratch my back with a chainsaw, grandma, mikey is retiring!

andrew m., Monday, 9 August 2021 20:22 (ten months ago) link

it sounds like he'll be popping in from time to time on penguins radio to shoot the breeze with the ole two-niner, so that's good.

andrew m., Monday, 9 August 2021 20:24 (ten months ago) link

RIP Tony Esposito

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 22:57 (ten months ago) link

indeed

mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 23:52 (ten months ago) link

An MTU Huskies legend

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 23:55 (ten months ago) link

Lundqvist done

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 20 August 2021 19:08 (ten months ago) link

also r-r-r-r-r-r-r-ick jeanneret to retire after season

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 20 August 2021 19:25 (ten months ago) link

https://c.tenor.com/BOBSv9PBFdEAAAAC/lundqvist-net.gif

mookieproof, Friday, 20 August 2021 20:40 (ten months ago) link

Carolina's poison pill offer sheet to the Habs' Kotkaniemi is hilarious.

Taliban! (PBKR), Sunday, 29 August 2021 12:08 (ten months ago) link

the pettiness is funny — and i guess it helps distract from both teams drafting or signing assholes this summer — but idg why carolina would trade away a good young goalie, let dougie hamilton walk, then offer $6m for a forward who scored five goals last season

habs should take the picks and use them to get eichel or something

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 August 2021 14:25 (ten months ago) link

mookie, I am a very petty person.

Yeah, I would probably take the picks. I believe the qualifying offer is 10% of expiring salary, so Carolina will have to offer $6.7M next year to keep his rights. I guess Carolina can walk away if he isn't worth $6M after next year, but if that happens those picks will hurt even more.

Taliban! (PBKR), Sunday, 29 August 2021 14:30 (ten months ago) link

really wonder how often restricted free agents are offered offer sheets and *don't* sign them

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:19 (ten months ago) link

just reread my post above and qualifying offer is 110% of expiring.

Taliban! (PBKR), Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:38 (ten months ago) link

well, i hope the hurricanes are happy now!

mookieproof, Sunday, 5 September 2021 03:55 (ten months ago) link

Big Z back to the Island after a 20 year break.

Michael F Gill, Saturday, 18 September 2021 23:27 (nine months ago) link

rangers will finally get to take on a number-one goalie

mookieproof, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 06:30 (one month ago) link

well

mookieproof, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 01:48 (one month ago) link

this is CRAZY.

Half Japanese Breakfast (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 02:00 (one month ago) link

not surprised

Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 02:03 (one month ago) link

just great end to end. nice saves (mostly) by the backups. was thinking, once it got to a 3 goal avs lead, of heading elsewhere, but it's too exciting and i want spoilers to win

Half Japanese Breakfast (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 02:04 (one month ago) link

fair
xp

Half Japanese Breakfast (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 02:06 (one month ago) link

this is good hockey

mookieproof, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 02:47 (one month ago) link

wake the fuck up, tampa

mookieproof, Saturday, 4 June 2022 01:21 (one month ago) link

I hope this edm/col turns into a series. Really don't want it to end.
So much raw talent
And rly dgaf abt the Eastern teams at this point

scampos sacra fames (outdoor_miner), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 01:53 (four weeks ago) link

i love it/them/him but there's no way this series goes back to edmonton

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 02:05 (four weeks ago) link

might not even go back to denver

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 02:15 (four weeks ago) link

yikes

Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 02:42 (four weeks ago) link

rip

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 03:51 (four weeks ago) link

that was a bit of a shame. has there been a 2x overtime this year? woulda been a consolation if that game had gone on longer. not really invested anymore, but will watch and root for Col in finals.

Half Japanese Breakfast (outdoor_miner), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 12:27 (four weeks ago) link

i think there was a 2x ot in the first round? was really hoping oilers could make a series of it and really felt mike smith's anguish at that one. ultimately think that the avs are in best position to defeat whoever wins in the east and that's what i want at this point. like a lot.

andrew m., Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:37 (four weeks ago) link

mckinnon and crosby are buds who work out together in the offseason, so my wife and i like to joke that after each round there's a phone call.

"yo sid, nate. gonna be a little late again for our workout!"

andrew m., Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:39 (four weeks ago) link

Mike smith plays small

i think there was a 2x ot in the first round?

i'm a bad pens fan! first game, round 1. pens won in 3OT! seems like 3 years ago.

andrew m., Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:42 (four weeks ago) link

pretty remarkable game/series by draisaitl, who is clearly having trouble moving

and god knows it would be unfair to note that the avs fucking slashed his ankle every chance they got

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 June 2022 03:38 (three weeks ago) link

classic trouba; such a shame the rangers are choking away a 2-0 lead

Swing... And a miss. 🤷 #StanleyCup | #GoBolts pic.twitter.com/obEPhat2jl

— Sportsnet (@Sportsnet) June 10, 2022

mookieproof, Friday, 10 June 2022 02:52 (three weeks ago) link

what a shame

mookieproof, Sunday, 12 June 2022 02:54 (three weeks ago) link

I approve

Michael F Gill, Sunday, 12 June 2022 03:38 (three weeks ago) link

free (and great) hockey

mookieproof, Thursday, 16 June 2022 03:03 (two weeks ago) link

torts + flyers = distinct comedic possibilities

mookieproof, Friday, 17 June 2022 01:44 (two weeks ago) link

Circus, meet your ringmaster.

I'm actually good with it in an accelerationist way.

Cabernet Frank (PBKR), Friday, 17 June 2022 01:51 (two weeks ago) link

Report is Trotz turned down a $7M/yr offer from the Flyers. He's no dummy.

Cabernet Frank (PBKR), Friday, 17 June 2022 02:06 (two weeks ago) link

tbf i think torts is pretty good at turning a bad team into a team that's at least hard to play against, and that may indeed be what the flyers need right now

but he's not the guy you want running an actually good team -- good players won't put up with his bullshit for long -- so a four-year term is kind of a surrender

mookieproof, Friday, 17 June 2022 02:59 (two weeks ago) link

this is maybe a little overlong, as the point is *very* thoroughly made, but also grebt/otm/imo

https://chaoticneutralzone.com/the-magicians-game

mookieproof, Friday, 17 June 2022 03:33 (two weeks ago) link

From the little bit I know about him, he sounds very much like Billy Martin.

clemenza, Friday, 17 June 2022 04:00 (two weeks ago) link

yikes

mookieproof, Sunday, 19 June 2022 01:27 (two weeks ago) link

yikes

frogbs, Sunday, 19 June 2022 02:28 (two weeks ago) link

i love this

Punster McPunisher, Sunday, 19 June 2022 04:51 (two weeks ago) link

Mo Seider winning the Calder is the high point of the Wings last several seasons

have to say that that *seems* like a pretty egregious too-many-men situation, but i don't think anyone really wants to see that militantly called

you could also not let kadri torch your defence

(i mean i would be fuming if i were a tampa fan . . . but i'm not, and they've won the last two cups, so)

mookieproof, Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:58 (one week ago) link

yeah hard to imagine that ever being a penalty, and especially not in SCF OT

symsymsym, Friday, 24 June 2022 02:00 (one week ago) link

‘we’d have called it if we’d known it would lead to a goal’

mookieproof, Friday, 24 June 2022 10:53 (one week ago) link

I had gone to bed. Am I right that the TV guys didn’t mention it at all on the broadcast?

tobo73, Friday, 24 June 2022 13:51 (one week ago) link

it wasn't easy to see on the ice...the goal itself was hard to see! it wasn't a story until Jon Cooper dramatically stormed out of a press conference

symsymsym, Friday, 24 June 2022 14:29 (one week ago) link

7:30 without a whistle

mookieproof, Monday, 27 June 2022 00:35 (one week ago) link

advertisers grinding their teeth

Michael F Gill, Monday, 27 June 2022 00:41 (one week ago) link

jack johnson, stanley cup champion

mookieproof, Monday, 27 June 2022 02:57 (one week ago) link

lightning were on the wrong side of a bunch of crucial calls, but in the end the avs deserved to win

Michael F Gill, Monday, 27 June 2022 04:50 (one week ago) link

btw looool corey perry

mookieproof, Monday, 27 June 2022 05:53 (one week ago) link

that waved-off icing with about 30 seconds left was ice fucking cold

also correct, as hedman had slowed to a crawl. one of the few brave moments by an official in the entire series

mookieproof, Monday, 27 June 2022 06:02 (one week ago) link

kinda rude that yzerman and sakic were so good *and* so good at building teams

only hall-of-famer to wear 19 for the penguins is brian trottier; probably missed their chance to hire him as GM

strong move by the leafs to add jason spezza to their front office tho

mookieproof, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:26 (one week ago) link

great stuff in here: https://theathletic.com/3384425/2022/06/27/hall-of-very-good

mookieproof, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 20:41 (one week ago) link

Good stuff. Love watching the Probert/Clark vid but the aftermath is such a bummer

love sean mcindoe

symsymsym, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 01:52 (six days ago) link

also love all this first-ballot Canucks HOF class

symsymsym, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 01:52 (six days ago) link

Wings hire Derek Lalonde as head coach, I like it.


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