"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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mark s, Sunday, 9 May 2021 08:37 (six months ago) link

Labour's majority in Batley & Spen is 3,525. The Brexit Party won 1,678 votes there in 2019. Not exactly a huge mountain for the Tories to climb.

— Max Shanly (@maxshanly) May 8, 2021

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 May 2021 08:40 (six months ago) link

This thread will follow the catastrophe, every step of the way 👍

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 May 2021 08:40 (six months ago) link

apparently Rayner was having a promotion commiserating drink in the pub last night

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 08:41 (six months ago) link

I think the Batley mayoral results will be out today

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 08:43 (six months ago) link

West Yorkshire even, Batley hasn't been nominated as the capital yet

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 08:44 (six months ago) link

batley for capitol, nips for mayor
https://i.imgur.com/xOI6FtC.jpg

mark s, Sunday, 9 May 2021 08:48 (six months ago) link

probably loads of stalwarts of Batley’s goth scene that used to frequent the Xclusiv club in the 80's are corrupt local councillors now!

"West Yorkshire's first-ever metro mayor will be announced on Sunday in a seismic moment for the county."

lol the carved heads of 19th century mill owners will crumble and fall from buildings that have been converted into luxury apartments.

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 08:57 (six months ago) link

Just assume everything I post itt has the sickos picture after it.

Senior Labour source tells me that when Shadow Cabinet members complained to Keir Starmer’s office about the terrible lines they were given to take to the media after the Hartlepool disaster, they were told Peter Mandelson had signed them off.

— Owen Jones 🌹 (@OwenJones84) May 9, 2021



Also, is this the new thread? Should the other be locked?

Scamp Granada (gyac), Sunday, 9 May 2021 09:46 (six months ago) link

this is the new thread and the other shd be locked, yes, YESSS!!!

mark s, Sunday, 9 May 2021 09:53 (six months ago) link

How can we destroy these good results.

One result of this brainrot is that Khan's final result vs Bailey (55% vs 45%) – better than *both* of Johnson's London efforts (51.5/48.5 & 53/47) – can't be talked about as the positive result it is & that it's *good* that progressive London can register dissent *and* back him.

— James B (@piercepenniless) May 9, 2021

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 May 2021 09:57 (six months ago) link

Keir Starmer is "electable" but can't win elections , he is "professional" but does things really badly - these terms are used by the media to describe aesthetic states , the look of 'electabilty' and 'professionalism', that are unrelated to the actual common meaning of the words

— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) May 8, 2021

nothing that hasn't been said before, but Hughes has been consistently good at calmly dissecting the hot twaddle that the likes of Toynbee and Freedland write about Kieth.

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 10:15 (six months ago) link

Toynbee literally said he is electable and if voters disagree it’s on them, satire is dead

Pinefox reviews Reviews (wins), Sunday, 9 May 2021 10:24 (six months ago) link

Small in the scheme of things, but just thinking about that cunty tweet Starmer's people did about Mikel Arteta when Arsenal were having that terrible run before christmas. Hope Arteta has allowed himself at least a small chuckle at all this

would love to see him go head to head with Jez in an Arsenal pub quiz, he'd get fucking skinned.

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 10:34 (six months ago) link

Just surrounded himself with these ppl.

Here is Labour's new strategy director laughing at @survation for correctly identifying Labour's surge in the 2017 election. https://t.co/pkaVhOxxPb

— Alex Nunns (@alexnunns) May 8, 2021

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 May 2021 10:35 (six months ago) link

not the first time a bearded prophet was sneered at by a mob of half-witted fools!

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 10:41 (six months ago) link

Tim Shipman has the wrong end of the stick, Kier Starmer’s wife has banned him from playing Champ Man.

AlanSmithee, Sunday, 9 May 2021 11:22 (six months ago) link

It was for his own good, he kept getting Man City relegated.

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 11:35 (six months ago) link

lol

Chipping Norton (Oxfordshire) council result:

Lab: 42.6% (+8.5)
Con: 40.9% (-4.3)
Grn: 10.9% (+8.2)
LDem: 5.6% (-10.6)

Lab GAIN from Con

nashwan, Sunday, 9 May 2021 12:10 (six months ago) link

Bananaman: what did KS say about Arteta? I can't remember and can't find it.

the pinefox, Sunday, 9 May 2021 12:35 (six months ago) link

... no, hold on, that was Angela Rayner.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 May 2021 12:39 (six months ago) link

xxp

I'm getting reports that Oxford are also shutting out the Reds

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 12:40 (six months ago) link

Problem for Labour is the realignment is still relatively asymmetric. Worthings are relatively few compared to the much speedier realignment towards the Tories in the north and midlands.

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) May 9, 2021

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 May 2021 13:30 (six months ago) link

"problem" talk is almost entirely poll-focused = arse backwards = why the Labour Party is such a fucking mess now mostly

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 May 2021 13:37 (six months ago) link

Brabin has won so there will be another by-election to look forward to.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 9 May 2021 15:29 (six months ago) link

she got 30 000+ more first pref votes than the Tory man-boy, not quite Burnham level but an impressive win for her.

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 15:34 (six months ago) link

by-elections are good again

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 May 2021 16:08 (six months ago) link

itll be a real test for starmers labour

plax (ico), Sunday, 9 May 2021 16:11 (six months ago) link

there is a big Muslim vote in Batley, so a good chance of a lower than 2019 turnout and the Tories to win by a few thousand.

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 16:17 (six months ago) link

if Kieth is looking for a good chippy there is one called Howies that has been there since the 50's and does their own house special "Irish Curry Sauce". Some people might tell him to fuck off though!

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 16:21 (six months ago) link

I'm sure his team have already briefed him that working class people eat chips - and little else - in advance of any visit to the constituency.

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 May 2021 16:35 (six months ago) link

as in Biffa Bacon in the north people just go up to chip shop counter and grunt "fuckin' chips"

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 16:53 (six months ago) link

Just going to cut and paste this great post from plax at the dying end of the last thread
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my sense is that politics and labour in particular is so populated by a huge array of think tank people PR hype men and career politicians shuttling back and forth between lobbying westminster and charity, desperately clinging on to the narrow idea world that supports their careers. anything that really challenges this status quo is the real enemy. The ideals of centrism and neoliberalism were supposed to craft a fairly comfortable niche in the end of history for all these people, the overarching hostility to 'populism' etc I think is borne of this. Anything transformative of this status quo is much more challenging to their position than labour becoming even more defanged than they currently are. I think the vaccillating anxiety around what the current tory government are doing from this point of view comes from the way in which they are obvioulsy both in the business of shredding norms (human rights, 'standards') and fortifying others (corporate hegemony, cultural conservatism).

But yeah I agree that they are deeply uninterested in winning power, they already have the kind of power they are interested in. and I agree that its not some 4d chess they're up to just knee-jerk aversion and hostility to anything that upsets basic tenets of what they consider modern approaches (c. 1996) and can thus bizarrely construct the notion of 'free broadband' as something dessicated and backward. They're sincere whey they say this isn't 'grown up' 'sensible' politics but what they mean is really because it upsets their idea of what it is to be a grown up, to move smoothly through a professionalised world where they wear a suit and say things with confidence. I think the career of chuka umunna is pretty instructive. anyway, i'm pretty sure this is the end of the line for the nhs so there's going to be a hell of a lot of consultancy roles for them to fight over once they've completely collapsed the labour party.

― plax (ico)

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:00 (six months ago) link

A senior Labour figure told a meeting with the leader’s office that Angela Rayner was “dressed inappropriately” on a visit to Hartlepool. She was wearing leopard-print trousers, heavy-duty stomper boots and a hoodie.

nice blend of misogyny and classism getting leaked from the Starmer office, vile people.

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:04 (six months ago) link

Runners and riders for Labour selection for Batley and Spen by-election, according to local sources: Salma Arif, Leeds council cabinet member for public health, is who some believe the seat will be "stitched up" for

— Patrick Maguire (@patrickkmaguire) May 9, 2021

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:09 (six months ago) link

Owen Jones tweet, guessing he is probably not just making this up

The reason the Labour reshuffle isn’t happening is because the shadow ministers Keir Starmer’s team are trying to demote are refusing to move, and are betting the house on the fact Starmer no longer has any political authority.

— Owen Jones 🌹 (@OwenJones84) May 9, 2021

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:09 (six months ago) link

oh please let this be true

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:11 (six months ago) link

it's a bed-in!

with kieth and jenny and the gang

mark s, Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:17 (six months ago) link

That's that then. Labour loses control of Bristol City Council, ties for biggest party with the Greens on 24 councillors each

— cryskttlty (@cryskttlty) May 9, 2021

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:31 (six months ago) link

Brabin hasn't officially won yet but still

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:34 (six months ago) link

oh they are still counting, lol I thought I figures I saw on my phone were the final count. 90 000 ahead on first prefs

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:39 (six months ago) link

Are these Greens positioned for a real ascendancy or are they a comedy party

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:40 (six months ago) link

the Greens are not positioned for a real ascendancy

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:40 (six months ago) link

Leeds 2nd pref results through.

Brabin (Lab): 20,312 (112,624 total)
Robinson (Con): 11,579 (72,248 total)

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:44 (six months ago) link

greens = 00s lib dems (?)

Left, Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:52 (six months ago) link

What happened to the Sensible Party or whatever the labour exiles were calling themselves,

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:58 (six months ago) link

They lost all their seats and then went off to cushy jobs and non-executive directorships.

One shad cab member tells me they'd quite like to know whether it's worth them turning up for work tomorrow. Nearly 7pm Sunday night and unaware if they're invited to tomorrow's meeting.

— Kate Proctor (@Kate_M_Proctor) May 9, 2021

Scamp Granada (gyac), Sunday, 9 May 2021 18:01 (six months ago) link

if he had the moral courage to put his hands up and cop to taking money from a fascist rag because he's not very choosy where his paycheques come from rather coming out with such convoluted bullshit, he'd still be a despicable bald fool.

calzino, Monday, 29 November 2021 14:42 (three days ago) link

"racism hipster"!

calzino, Monday, 29 November 2021 14:45 (three days ago) link

What gyac surely the Spectator's consistent fascism just gives its Surrey readership a socially acceptable excuse to give into the irresistible lure of thinkpieces about U-God and Moby

Tracer Hand, Monday, 29 November 2021 14:45 (three days ago) link

Theory: Lynskey's been decomposing for months, the brain worms now free to just slither directly over his keyboard as required

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 29 November 2021 14:55 (three days ago) link

The thing is, he could easily get the £75 for a thinkpiece that the Spec pays anywhere else in the media.

Sometimes the banal reason for writing for somewhere more conservative is that the friendly editor at the paper you’d happily pitch to gets poached by a less liberal media company, and freelancers tend to want to maintain relations with friendly editors. Or, you’re basically a total melt.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Monday, 29 November 2021 14:55 (three days ago) link

https://twitter.com/tristandross/status/1465334017000189958

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 29 November 2021 14:57 (three days ago) link

even better!

http://twitter.com/tristandross/status/1465334017000189958

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 29 November 2021 14:57 (three days ago) link

meh

please, let's not all pile onto The Racism Factory just for publishing another fascist. this only happens occasionally, and i know their editors, they're good people. for instance, they happily commission any banal cultural commentary i pitch and always invite me to their parties

— Stan Account (@tristandross) November 29, 2021

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 29 November 2021 14:58 (three days ago) link

“Useful idiot running interference in his free time for the far-right rag that sometimes pays him” exists on a spectrum with “all the fash content said organ publishes on the reg” and I think we shouldn’t lose sight of that

Nu-panique schnizzle (wins), Monday, 29 November 2021 15:28 (three days ago) link

New phone, who dis?

— Cat Smith MP (@CatSmithMP) November 29, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 November 2021 15:40 (three days ago) link

Love that

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 29 November 2021 16:16 (three days ago) link

Dugher nursing an old grudge whilst enjoying free drinks in a corporate box at monmore green racing track!

calzino, Monday, 29 November 2021 16:26 (three days ago) link

> Michael Dugher
> CEO @BetGameCouncil. Views here all mine. Board member @IvorsAcademy Trust.
> Fellow @LeedsMusicDrama. Ex-CEO @UK_Music, MP, Shadow SofS & No10 chief spokesman

being an mp is low on the list of priorities if his twitter bio is anything to go by

koogs, Monday, 29 November 2021 17:59 (three days ago) link

not sure it was ever adequately high but he hasn't been an mp since 2017

mark s, Monday, 29 November 2021 18:24 (three days ago) link

UGH

I'm told Yvette Cooper has definitely been offered Shadow Home Secretary

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) November 29, 2021

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 29 November 2021 18:27 (three days ago) link

Labour is back in business. pic.twitter.com/khoqUVCR4W

— The Labour Party (@UKLabour) November 29, 2021

koogs, Monday, 29 November 2021 19:01 (three days ago) link

Lol Wes Streeting is shadow health?!

Deputy Leader, Shadow First Secretary of State, Shadow Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster and Shadow Secretary of State for the Future of Work: Angela Rayner
Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer: Rachel Reeves
Shadow Secretary of State for Business and Industrial Strategy: Jonathan Reynolds
Shadow Secretary of State of Climate Change and Net Zero: Ed Miliband
Shadow Secretary of State for Levelling Up, Housing, Communities & Local Government: Lisa Nandy
Shadow Secretary of State for Defence: John Healey
Shadow Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport: Lucy Powell
Shadow Secretary of State for Education: Bridget Phillipson
Shadow Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs: Jim McMahon
Shadow Secretary of State for Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Affairs: David Lammy
Shadow Secretary of State for Health and Social Care: Wes Streeting
Shadow Secretary of State for the Home Department: Yvette Cooper
Shadow Secretary of State for International Trade: Nick Thomas-Symonds
Shadow Minister of State at the Cabinet Office: Jenny Chapman
Shadow Secretary of State for Justice: Steve Reed
Shadow Secretary of State for Transport: Louise Haigh
Shadow Secretary of State for Women and Equalities, Party Chair and Chair of Labour Policy Review: Anneliese Dodds
Shadow Secretary of State for Work and Pensions: Jonathan Ashworth

Shadow Attorney General: Emily Thornberry

Shadow Cabinet Minister for Mental Health: Rosena Allin-Khan*
Shadow Cabinet Minister for International Development: Preet Gill **
Shadow Chief Secretary to HM Treasury: Pat McFadden ***

Shadow Secretary of State for Wales: Jo Stevens
Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland: Ian Murray
Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland: Peter Kyle


I'm so broken. I have to go to McDonalds.

— Wes Streeting MP (@wesstreeting) August 24, 2013

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 29 November 2021 20:14 (three days ago) link

the grown-ups are back, baby

huile about oeuf (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 November 2021 21:09 (three days ago) link

Shadow Minister of State at the Cabinet Office: Jenny Chapman

👀

calzino, Monday, 29 November 2021 21:10 (three days ago) link

borrowing "levelling up" from the Tories is an exceptionally feeb move even for Kieth

huile about oeuf (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 November 2021 21:16 (three days ago) link

Yvette Cooper eh? That would have thoroughly depressed at one time, but since I've no intention of voting Labour again in my life I can take this with the appropriate level of wgaf now lol.

calzino, Monday, 29 November 2021 21:19 (three days ago) link

Can’t wait for them to poll at 2010 levels again

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 29 November 2021 21:28 (three days ago) link

Cooper has become such a mythical figure amongst melt groupthink that Dunty seems to have forgotten that he used to pretend to hate her for being so racist and right-wing. And this nonsense about how great she is at dispatch box pantomime didn't do her any good when Corbyn made her look rather trivial and empty in 2015. She's got a wafer thin majority as well and probably almost a dead cert to lose her seat in the next election.

calzino, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 08:17 (two days ago) link

It's like Hatherley just posted. Kieth attacking Johnson for dishonesty is not a very bright move and when it comes to election time they will "this you" him with all the pledges he feigned to con the membership into voting for him, which both makes him look dishonest or even deceptively progressive to the Tory voters he's trying to win over.

calzino, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:56 (two days ago) link

haha, yes i hadn't thought about the second part of that. it not only reminds the left of the party that he lied, it parades the pledges in front of right wing voters they're trying to win. lol

plax (ico), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 13:15 (two days ago) link

Idk, maybe right wing voters will find it funny that labour members got so comprehensively clowned. Who really cares about their political enemies being betrayed?

who's afraid of adrian woolfe? (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 13:35 (two days ago) link

of course that won't bother them, it's the pledges that will do the damage - even if he had no intention of honouring them it will plant the seed that this guy is a progressive in a Tory suit disguise.

calzino, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 13:41 (two days ago) link

periodical reminder that most of Corbyn's (let alone early-Starmer's) policies were >50% favoured when polled in isolation

imago, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 13:44 (two days ago) link

alive in here i'm alive in here i'm aliiiiive in heeeeere

imago, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 13:44 (two days ago) link

and Labour don't get the same free pass with barefaced lying as the Tories do.

calzino, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 13:45 (two days ago) link

Yes the old racists whose “trust” they are trying to “win back” will always insist that labour want to open the door to all the immigrants no matter how frantically they signal the opposite

coombination gazza hut & scampo bell (wins), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 13:45 (two days ago) link

Yeah but what I'm saying is that Starmer's initial pledges would still be broadly popular even if he has gone back on all of them for Blairite reasons

imago, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 13:56 (two days ago) link

ask the Hastings RNLI workers on how "Defend Migrants’ Rights" is polling with Tory voters in their town!

calzino, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 14:02 (two days ago) link

Possible for something to be >50% popular but also widely despised by gammons whom Labour should never be pandering to

My faith is that this nation is not majority gammon. Brexit wasn't in itself a gammon referendum. Many have recanted; many voted out of frustration and spite rather than deeply-held xenophobia

imago, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 14:11 (two days ago) link

I’d want to see some evidence of that

mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 14:18 (two days ago) link

I did say 'faith' tbf lol

imago, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 14:26 (two days ago) link

Faith isn't evidence

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 14:55 (two days ago) link

one Starmer aide told the Politico newsletter – a daily note for Westminster insiders – that the reshuffle had put, “fresh hungry effective message-carriers in key briefs”.

jesus fucking wept

calzino, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 14:59 (two days ago) link

hungry hungry hypocrites

nashwan, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 15:00 (two days ago) link

Fresh hungry effective budgie smugglers or tight briefs.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 15:28 (two days ago) link

Everybody knows Boris is a liar, they just don't care that he's a liar.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 15:29 (two days ago) link

BBC radio coverage of reshuffle: "there's an emphasis on YOUTH, as Wes Streeting is promoted".

Not what they would say if the much younger Zarah Sultana was promoted.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 16:14 (two days ago) link

If you can count on European heads of state to do anything, it’s calling centuries of colonial domination + nurtured dependency “friendship” https://t.co/I9jYRxU6HY

— Zoé (@ztsamudzi) November 30, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 16:19 (two days ago) link

Streeting is 38, am reminded of when Jo Swindon was asked about how to get young people into politics and responded “I’m a young politician!” (She was 39 at the time)

mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 16:27 (two days ago) link

If I had £80k+ pa and full bennies and the rest, well I might feel 10-20 years younger!

calzino, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 16:38 (two days ago) link

As if the queen isn’t turning in her grave over Barbados becoming a republic

coombination gazza hut & scampo bell (wins), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 16:49 (two days ago) link

That's amusing about "Swindon". Who has gone to oblivion.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 10:05 (yesterday) link

Surprised Streeting wasn't given Shadow Minister for McDonald's, but I guess lobbying for them is sort of his main hobby anyway so no need?

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 10:46 (yesterday) link

Good luck to these good ppl

Senior managers in our sector are generally total incompetents and become bullies to compensate. They make outrageous salaries and contribute literally nothing that makes the lives of students or university staff better. https://t.co/ewqIBQaOml

— Jack Saundrs ❤🖤 (@jack_saundrs) December 1, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 10:48 (yesterday) link

I laughed the other day when some muppet described McShitter as "soft-left" in a reshuffle report, lol what a joke.

calzino, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 10:50 (yesterday) link


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