US Politics, December 2019: Profound procedural deficiencies

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Title phrase from here. Runner-up candidate: "Under the current circumstances, we do not intend to participate."

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 2 December 2019 15:06 (one week ago) link

And where are the tax returns?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 December 2019 15:10 (one week ago) link

Trump team positions Pence as the antidote to anti-Trump animus

'Cause who doesn't love Mike Pence, right? Nobody, that's who! Except anyone who's ever met him, spoken to him, seen video of him being interviewed, or lived in Indiana...

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 2 December 2019 17:46 (one week ago) link

Read that as "anti-Trump anus"

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 December 2019 17:55 (one week ago) link

that would be Bill Kristol

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 December 2019 17:55 (one week ago) link

During Sondland's testimony, he talked about mentioning his concerns about Ukraine to Pence and Pence simply responding with a silent nod that I'm assuming didn't convey much in the way of information or intention or even sentience, and that felt like kind of a key Pence anecdote. The upshot being that you could just whip up a gross of Pence mannequins and hit all of your campaign stops simultaneously without anyone really noticing that anything is awry.

War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 December 2019 18:06 (one week ago) link

Although you'd also have to cobble together accompanying Karen Pence mannequins in the event that your Pence dummies ever came into contact with a human female.

War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 December 2019 18:08 (one week ago) link

RIP big man

Rep. Duncan Hunter to abandon not-guilty plea in campaign finance scandal https://t.co/sPYlUhKIJX

— Phil Willon (@philwillon) December 2, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:14 (one week ago) link

shabooty, sha sha, shabooty ROLL CALL! shabooty, sha ha, shabooty:

Arizona’s 6th (David Schweikert, R) Solid Republican to Likely Republican
California’s 25th (Vacant, D) Likely Democratic to Solid Democratic
Illinois’ 6th (Sean Casten, D) Lean Democratic to Likely Democratic
Illinois’ 13th (Rodney Davis, R) Tilt Republican to Toss-up
Iowa’s 2nd (Open; Dave Loebsack, D) Toss-up to Tilt Democratic
Iowa’s 4th (Steve King, R) Lean Republican to Tilt Republican
Michigan’s 8th (Elissa Slotkin, D) Tilt Democratic to Lean Democratic
Michigan’s 11th (Haley Stevens, D) Lean Democratic to Likely Democratic
Minnesota’s 1st (Jim Hagedorn, R) Lean Republican to Tilt Republican
Minnesota’s 2nd (Angie Craig, DFL) Lean Democratic to Likely Democratic
New Hampshire’s 1st (Chris Pappas, D) Lean Democratic to Likely Democratic
Virginia’s 2nd (Elaine Luria, D) Tilt Democratic to Lean Democratic

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:36 (one week ago) link

also, barf warning: the house judiciary committee includes louis gohmert, jim jordan, AND matt gaetz.

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:42 (one week ago) link

(barf suppressant: also pramila jayapal and ted lieu)

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:43 (one week ago) link

saw something on Twitter to the effect that the redrawn districts in NC have led to a projected two-member gain for the Dems.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:47 (one week ago) link

Intelligence Committee impeachment report coming tomorrow.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 03:52 (one week ago) link

Great! That's one more step ahead. But it will probably make the same case as was easily apparent from the public testimony from the major witnesses, tightened up, with some ancillary details added from acquired documentation, plus the depositions taken in private session from both 'major' and 'minor' witnesses. The public testimony was plenty enough to make a strong case, but it is always nice to leave few or no loose ends.

I very much hope that some further counts can be added to the eventual articles of impeachment, beyond just those generated by the Ukraine scandal. He needs to be called to account for so many of his actions it is hard to recall them all.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 04:38 (one week ago) link

Narrator: He was called to account for none of his actions.

War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:50 (one week ago) link

don trump is the best vampire hunter ever! ever!!

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/472460-poll-majority-of-republicans-say-trump-better-president-than-lincoln

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:26 (one week ago) link

I like Presidents who don't free the slaves

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:27 (one week ago) link

I prefer this level of honesty to the disingenuous 'party of Lincoln' bullshit the GOP trumpets as if they haven't done everything they could since the '60s to nullify any meaning that might once have possessed.

What Would Spoonman Do? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:36 (one week ago) link

Judging by what I've read, the Dem reps in Trump districts are really committed to keeping impeachment "focused" ie this one 'national security' issue only is relevant. As if DJT's personal enrichment of himself by smashing the emolument restraints are in any way "secure."

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:37 (one week ago) link

Arsonist members of former anti-arson organization declare current pro-arson chairman to be way cooler than founding anti-arson chairman, more at 11.

What Would Spoonman Do? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:40 (one week ago) link

funny detail in the full results of that poll, republican voters easily favor reagan over trump (59 to 41%)

so it's basically

REAGAN
TRUMP
LINCOLN

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:52 (one week ago) link

also, check out pg 288 of the full results (rank 8 republican presidents) to see that 8% of GOP voters would say that lincoln is the very WORST republican president out of the options provided (lincoln, eisenhower, nixon, ford, reagan, HW bush, W bush, trump)

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:57 (one week ago) link

gosh i wonder what their rationale for coming to that conclusion could possibly be

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:02 (one week ago) link

when you're in the company of legends, you gotta be legendary. sorry abraham lincoln

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:10 (one week ago) link

Green Party has lost its place on the Arizona ballot, after failing to turn in the 31k signatures necessary to qualify by Friday - https://t.co/lGutt12IOw

— Reid Wilson (@PoliticsReid) December 3, 2019

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:11 (one week ago) link

it's sad, they were a political party

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:23 (one week ago) link

This shit rules. It's like if Stanley Kubrick made a Hallmark movie. Obviously the Trumps should live in a toilet forever but their aesthetic is hilarious. https://t.co/Jdwfr7nXI2

— David Roth (@david_j_roth) December 2, 2019

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:26 (one week ago) link

lol at the camera sweeping across the ornament "BE BEST" spelled out in scrabble letters

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:28 (one week ago) link

it's quite a production

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:28 (one week ago) link

rich people really are the tackiest fuckers on earth

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:28 (one week ago) link

GILD THE CAGE FURTHER

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:29 (one week ago) link

Incredible- pure class 🙏🏼🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/m9Cy709vyr

— Geoff De Weaver 🇺🇸 (@geoff_deweaver) December 2, 2019

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:30 (one week ago) link

View from the chopper as Trump makes his way across Central London.

Well played, @metpoliceuk Special Escort Group. 👏👏👏😂👍 pic.twitter.com/EbcWRVC4qT

— CivMilAir ✈ (@CivMilAir) December 2, 2019

полезный инструмент (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:33 (one week ago) link

#Christmas

What Would Spoonman Do? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:37 (one week ago) link

FAKE NEWS

It was dark here when he arrived ( & I loathe him, so would love this old photoshop to be true)

— freya_theferret (@TheferretFreya) December 2, 2019

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:38 (one week ago) link

DEEZ faux NUTS

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:56 (one week ago) link

Trump says that, under the precedent being set by the Democrats, in the future someone is going to pick an orange out of the refrigerator and not like it and therefore decide to impeach the president.

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) December 3, 2019

orange man bad?

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:18 (one week ago) link

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-pushed-hard-for-company-owned-by-gop-donor-to-get-400-million-contract-it-just-did-despite-not-meeting-standards/

For months President Donald Trump has “personally and repeatedly urged the head of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers” to award a lucrative Defense Dept. contract to build a portion of his wall on the Southern border to a construction company owned by a GOP donor. On Monday, despite reports that the North Dakota company, Fisher Sand and Gravel, did not meet Defense Dept. standards and has a history of tax and environmental violations, the DoD awarded Fisher the $400 million contract, The Washington Post reports.

Trump reportedly has been so active in pushing for Fisher to be awarded the contract that at one point on Fox News the president told Sean Hannity his administration was dealing with the company’s owner, and declared the company had been “recommended strongly by a great new senator, Kevin Cramer.”

That Senator, Republican Kevin Cramer of North Dakota, has also been pushing for Fisher Sand and Gravel to get the contract despite its owner, Tommy Fisher, being a donor to Senator Cramer, The Independent reports.

President Trump has seen Tommy Fisher advocate for the contract in his multiple appearances on Fox News, the president’s favorite cable news channel.

“In phone calls, White House meetings and conversations aboard Air Force One during the past several months, Trump has aggressively pushed Dickinson, N.D.-based Fisher Industries to Department of Homeland Security leaders and Lt. Gen. Todd Semonite, the commanding general of the Army Corps,” The Washington Post reported in May. “The push for a specific company has alarmed military commanders and DHS officials.”

Tommy Fisher has ties to former White House adviser Stephen K. Bannon, Blackwater USA founder Erik Prince, ex-GOP congressman Tom Tancredo and former Kansas GOP secretary of state Kris Kobach. Bannon and Kobach have worked for Trump, Prince is the brother of Eduction Secretary betsy DeVos.

In an August report on Trump’s “brazen” corruption The Nation described the four men as “an all-star cast of grifters and white nationalists.”

“Tommy Fisher and his wife gave more than $10,000 — the maximum allowable contribution — to Cramer in 2018 as he ran for Senate, campaign finance records show. Fisher was Cramer’s guest at Trump’s State of the Union speech in February that year, and the CEO said he shook the president’s hand afterward,” The Washington Post notes, adding that “Trump backed Cramer last year in his campaign to unseat Democrat Heidi Heitkamp.”

A 2017 report from NBC affiliate 12 News (video below) states the city of Phoenix “filed 467 criminal charges” against Fisher Sand and Gravel, along with “2000 city and county violations.”

so like this would absolutely be an impeachable offense under any Democratic president right

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:21 (one week ago) link

Oh don't be silly, Republicans wouldn't require as high a threshold.

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:24 (one week ago) link

someone will pick an orange out of a refrigerator and not like it

His supporters love Trump because 'he's the only politician who tells them the truth'.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:25 (one week ago) link

Fun fact: despite sharing a skin color with the well-known citrus fruit, Donald Trump has never actually come into physical contact with an orange!

What Would Spoonman Do? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:27 (one week ago) link

or any fruits except Elton John

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:28 (one week ago) link

Well, maybe if the orange was hollowed out and inside there was a thumb drive full of evidence of criminal activity by the president, and the person who grabbed it was all "WHAT THE FUCK?! Why is there nothing decent in the white house ...to eat?" And they kick off impeachment proceedings out of pure hanger. I get it.

Evan, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:29 (one week ago) link

Was it really a smart move for the GOP to release their impeachment memo first? Sometimes being first helps control a narrative with the general public, who tend to focus more on the initial statement and look at rebuttals with sour grapes.

Idk that it makes as much sense here - it's manna for Republicans, but six of the last seven polls released that included Independents and asked participants were asked if they supported impeaching trump had a plurality of Independent voters supporting it. By a small margin, nonetheless, but those are the people who require convincing and so far they've done poorly. Not sure that a preemptive "nothing to see here" will be as effective as their stupid "release the memo" campaign was.

Giving the Dems the last word might backfire (hopefully).

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:58 (one week ago) link

They don't have a real defense, so it probably doesn't matter

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:17 (one week ago) link

yeah the GOP has no play here besides endless conspiracy theorizing and straight up saying "he did it, so what, get over it"

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:44 (one week ago) link

Wow. These are Rudy Giuliani’s phone calls the day Marie Yovanovitch was removed from her post.

That the Intel Committee got access to phone logs of the president’s personal defense attorney is just stunning. #housereport pic.twitter.com/lWF9nEb7OX

— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) December 3, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 20:00 (one week ago) link

imagine being "-1"

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 20:13 (one week ago) link

That DJTJ or Eric, right?

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 21:06 (one week ago) link

It has to get through the Senate first, right? And idiot might still not sign it.

OK, now explain how THAT will look bad for Democrats...they take the one thing King Asshole really, really wants and turn it into a poison pill he rejects, in an election year.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 03:59 (yesterday) link

the naming of the FBI investigation Crossfire Hurricane seems really corny. Were the FBI trying to make themselves look cool by naming things after 47 year old Rolling Stones songs?

Stevolende, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 12:30 (yesterday) link

Special guest investigation namer: Martin Scorsese

"Third of the Storms" Jazz (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 12:39 (yesterday) link

Xpost sounds like a Stevie Ray Vaughn song

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 12:56 (yesterday) link

President Trump will sign an executive order defining Judaism as a nationality, not just a religion, thus bolstering the Education Department's efforts to stamp out "Boycott Israel" movements on college campuses https://t.co/0avw7eseMc

— NYT Politics (@nytpolitics) December 10, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 13:07 (yesterday) link

OK, now explain how THAT will look bad for Democrats...they take the one thing King Asshole really, really wants and turn it into a poison pill he rejects, in an election year.

If you're not speaking rhetorically, Asshole has done this more than once, iirc: cheerlead certain developments, but by the time it gets to his desk changes his mind (or has his mind changed), campaigns against it, and rejects it, usually while crossing his arms like an angry toddler. He doesn't give a shit.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 13:11 (yesterday) link

I know...but it's hard to see how that's bad for Democrats, unless you're Chris Cilizza.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 13:15 (yesterday) link

This whole Judaism as a nationality thing is really disturbing. What if I don't want to be considered a different nationality other than American? Do I have a choice? I don't personally want to be associated with Israel at all.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 13:19 (yesterday) link

Can he just declare anything a nationality at will?

xpost Everything is bad for the Democrats, always.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 13:23 (yesterday) link

it's very odd. israeli and jewish are not the same thing.

treeship., Wednesday, 11 December 2019 13:24 (yesterday) link

if students were saying they wanted to boycott jewish businesses i would have an enormous problem with that. but boycotting israel, while still in my view not so great, is really different.

treeship., Wednesday, 11 December 2019 13:28 (yesterday) link

There are other places to debate this, and other people better at debating it, but while I agree with you, the BDS movement specifically is as I understand it tied to certain more extreme anti-Israel ideas than divestment, not to mention the conspicuousness of Israel getting more or less uniquely singled out for boycott, as opposed to any of the many human rights violating, international law flouting countries.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 14:12 (yesterday) link

The bullshit of course is not in that debate, but in Asshole changing the terms of the debate exclusively so that he and his fellow assholes can push their wrongheaded, vindictive policies.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 14:13 (yesterday) link

I don't think it's just about that debate though. Feels like a step towards revoking American citizenship.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 14:28 (yesterday) link

luv2live in this glorious gilded age

eema Verma who, as a senior figure in the Trump administration, has made it more difficult for poor Americans to access health coverage, has filed a claim of $47,000 for the loss of her luggage while on a three-day work trip.

According to Politico, Verma filed the claim on 28 August 2018 after having her luggage stolen while giving a speech in San Francisco. Her expenses included 20 pieces of jewellery, which sounds reasonable for a three day-work trip – if you are Snoop Dogg.

She had originally estimated the cost of those pieces at $20,000, but came back with the higher $43,065 price tag after visiting a jeweler three weeks after the theft. Because sometimes you’re just that rich that you forget about that extra 20 grand you dropped at the jewelers.

Verma is the head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), which is responsible for Medicare, the US health insurance program for seniors and Medicaid, the program for low-income Americans.

The jewellery claim included 11 pairs of earrings, five necklaces and three pendants. In evidence that shows money does not equal class, one of those pendants was this Ivanka Trump gold, prasiolite and diamond pendant, which looks like it was picked by the claw machine in an arcade.

The government spends approximately $5,700 per Medicaid patient. That means that the bill she tried to get the taxpayer to foot (the CMS only granted a $2,852.40 reimbursement) is roughly equivalent to what the government spends on eight Medicaid patients yearly.

You may be wondering what she was doing with all that jewellery. Swapping out weights in the gym for travel-friendly lifting? Not quite – according to a CMS spokesperson, Verma takes a large collection of jewelry when she travels, because she “travels to Washington DC from Indiana each week to work at CMS.”

It really feels like we're finally encroaching on that moment when we collectively realize that there's a whole lot more of us than there are of them.

Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 14:36 (yesterday) link

let's fucking hope so

Does it? I'd say there are way more apathetic people than those who give a shit.

xp

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 14:38 (yesterday) link

Yeah, I fantasize about that happening all the time, but probably nothing more than a fantasy given all the technology that enables the police state.

Would certainly welcome a Get Out/The Purge style film except about class where lower classes leading The Purge are the heroes. NB: I have never seen The Purge.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 14:44 (yesterday) link

They could all wear Bernie masks. Chilling.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 14:44 (yesterday) link

not to mention the conspicuousness of Israel getting more or less uniquely singled out for boycott, as opposed to any of the many human rights violating, international law flouting countries.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, December 11, 2019 9:12 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

c'mon, you know this kind of whatabout-ism is extremely dumb. the logical endpoint here is that you either have to protest every single terrible human rights-violating country simultaneously or somehow we all have to collectively decide which one is the absolute worst and focus on that one exclusively.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 14:54 (yesterday) link

It really feels like we're finally encroaching on that moment when we collectively realize that there's a whole lot more of us than there are of them.

― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Wednesday, December 11, 2019 9:36 AM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Dunno I think coprophilia is still pretty niche

badg, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:06 (yesterday) link

collectively lol

the 1% with their wagon-circling 40%

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:11 (yesterday) link

Shhh, shhhhhh, a dream is a wish your heart makes

Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:16 (yesterday) link

What most people don’t understand is the Evangelical extremist right wing as well as white supremecists and other nationalists have always been simultaneously non-critically pro-Israel and virulently anti-semetic. It remains hidden because no one can get their head around that. https://t.co/0eVrh54kHs

— Stevie Van Zandt (@StevieVanZandt) December 11, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:25 (yesterday) link

Little Stevie otm

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:38 (yesterday) link

xpost Given I know of no other prominent divestment drive, people *have* decided which is the worst and to focus on that one exclusively. I am no fan of Israel, but they are nowhere near the top of the list for horrible countries. Imo. Anyway, I am not terribly invested in the debate so I'll just say too much focus is placed on Israel and that entire region of bad actors and stop there.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:39 (yesterday) link

Given I know of no other prominent divestment drive

I hear 10x more about attempts to get universities to divest from fossil fuel investments than I do about BDS. And i guess you can say "yeah but I meant COUNTRIES" but the point is that the movement to push colleges to steer their investments away from politically disapproved sectors is not predominantly about Israel. For what it's worth, and as you might know from my other posts, i am Jewish and a big old Zionist, go to Israel and spend money in Israell plenty, think BDS is bad and wrong, BUT I also think 1. it's pretty small and marginal 2. Republicans have a strong incentive to make it seem bigger and less marginal, and to some extent even to make it BE bigger and less marginal, as a cynical ploy to get American Jews on their side.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:49 (yesterday) link

perhaps activists think they have more leverage to *change* Israel than they do Saudi Arabia?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:51 (yesterday) link

I only skimmed the two Articles in the NYT today but only saw Biden mentioned as a "political opponent," not by name, just like NPR frequently does it. Is his name in there?

Funny how Biden is named in the articles of impeachment. Makes the Dems’ priorities clear.

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) December 11, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:52 (yesterday) link

So the EO doesn't say anything about establishing Judaism as a nationality? An I missing something or was this heinously misreported?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 16:03 (yesterday) link

"(A) a political opponent, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden,;"

10,000 mani-gecs (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 16:06 (yesterday) link

Doesn't it kind of have to name Biden? It was all about digging up dirt on him.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 16:08 (yesterday) link

makes the dems' priorities clear

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 16:15 (yesterday) link

I'm not following Henwood's logic.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 16:15 (yesterday) link

yeah it'd be one thing if the articles said something like "digging up dirt on our next presidential nominee, the Wise and Exalted Joseph R. Biden"

(I haven't read the articles but I'm assuming they don't say that).

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 16:20 (yesterday) link

the naming of the FBI investigation Crossfire Hurricane seems really corny

The protocol for naming sensitive military operations has long been to assign randomly chosen names from a list prepared in advance, so that any intercepted communications about it would not reveal its nature or its target. The FBI probably has a similar protocol. I don't know if it applied here or not, because the protocol has been obviously ignored by the military whenever they think an operation needs a PR boost, e.g. Operation Desert Storm. However, this name was internal, so the chances are higher that the name was coincidental and the corniness was baked in when the name was put on the list.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 17:32 (yesterday) link

Olivia Wilde interviewed Nancy Pelosi for The Hollywood Reporter.

What of Hollywood's role in making Donald Trump a reality TV star? Do you blame the industry for the current state of U.S. politics as it relates to Trump?

Well, let me say I've never seen his reality show, so I don't know if it was any good or what. I do think that he was assisted by the communications industry, not just Hollywood, but the press as well, because all they do is enable him, and that is really a sad thing.

I've said to many of my friends in the press, "You're accomplices, whether you want to be or not," [and they say,] "If he's saying it, then it's news." I don't think it's news, but it monopolizes the airwaves. So there is a lot of responsibility to go around in terms of the creation of whatever that is in the White House.

But he has a tactic, one that is used by autocrats, which is, "Just as long as they're talking about me, no matter if it's bad, then you're not talking about my opponent." When [the press was] talking about him, they weren't saying what Hillary was going to do about health care, to make our economy fair.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:12 (yesterday) link

Nancy otm

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:14 (yesterday) link

'whatever that is in the White House' indeed

Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:15 (yesterday) link

Next thread title?

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:21 (yesterday) link

Incredible pic.twitter.com/n8Wh2Cbrqe

— Andrew Perez (@andrewperezdc) December 11, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:26 (yesterday) link

ah olivia wilde, who gives what appears to be an actually libelous portrayal of the news media in the new eastwood film, exactly who i would like to see asking the tough questions about the media.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:26 (yesterday) link

it's almost as if GOP voters' opinions have no basis in fact

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:28 (yesterday) link

xps

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:28 (yesterday) link

I don't really blame Wilde for that but yeah, I did a bit of an eyebrow raise myself

Simon H., Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:29 (yesterday) link

as a guy who has been on calls all day trying to figure out how his insurance has just increased by $130 a month in 2020 and how he can get financial assistance to help with his physical therapy post surgery, I'd like to say that 43% of republicans can use my toilet bowl as a water cooler

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:32 (yesterday) link

I dunno, I can totally see why GOP voters would be satisfied with the cost of health care, now that Obamacare has been repealed and Trump fixed all the problems, lowered costs of medicine, deported all the immigrants and cut everyone off from welfare, and so on. Like, what else is there to complain about? Problem solved. Asshole Again in 2020, etc.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:34 (yesterday) link

the naming of the FBI investigation Crossfire Hurricane seems really corny

Calling it Locomotive Breath would have been pretty bitchin, tho

Hereward the Woke (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:45 (yesterday) link

Trump: Pardons Multiple War Criminals

Bevin: Hold My Beer.

https://www.kentuckynewera.com/news/article_c1a31eec-1c5f-11ea-b560-f7ed0ba79bdf.html

As one of his final acts in office, former Gov. Matt Bevin commuted the sentence of Dayton Jones to time served by executive order. The executive order gives no reason for the commutation.

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According to New Era archives, Jones pleaded guilty Aug. 22, 2016, to first-degree sodomy, first-degree wanton endangerment and first-degree distribution of matter portraying a sexual performance by a minor. In November 2016, he was sentenced to 15 years in prison with no possibility of probation and a lifetime requirement to register as a sex offender upon release.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:46 (yesterday) link


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