US Politics, January 2020. Because we hate ourselves.

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peloton for the painfully alone (m bison), Thursday, 2 January 2020 00:17 (eight months ago) link

good read:

A Unified Theory of the Trumps’ Creepy Aesthetic

subway Stalinist (sleeve), Thursday, 2 January 2020 02:20 (eight months ago) link

In the two years and 308 days that Donald Trump has been president, his administration has constructed far more effective barriers to immigration. No new laws have actually been passed. This transformation has mostly come about through subtle administrative shifts—a phrase that vanishes from an internal manual, a form that gets longer, an unannounced revision to a website, a memo, a footnote in a memo. Among immigration lawyers, the cumulative effect of these procedural changes is known as the invisible wall.

In the two years after Trump took office, denials for H1Bs, the most common form of visa for skilled workers, more than doubled. In the same period, wait times for citizenship also doubled, while average processing times for all kinds of visas jumped by 46 percent, even as the quantity of applications went down. In 2018, the United States added just 200,000 immigrants to the population, a startling 70 percent less than the year before.

https://www.huffpost.com/highline/article/invisible-wall/?fbclid=IwAR1Z0QC9jaaHDnei2S9G0f6LMvRCei9E2wI5o0gE1eKC2VhTvweaeLUMv7I

curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 January 2020 20:21 (eight months ago) link

Breaking News: Iraqi TV reported that an attack at Baghdad’s airport killed the senior Iranian commander Qassim Suleimani, at a tense moment for the U.S. and Iran

this comes a day after Khamenei responded "you can't do anything" to trump's usual bluster

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 January 2020 01:49 (eight months ago) link

Soleimani was an enemy of the United States. That’s not a question.

The question is this - as reports suggest, did America just assassinate, without any congressional authorization, the second most powerful person in Iran, knowingly setting off a potential massive regional war?

— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) January 3, 2020

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 January 2020 01:55 (eight months ago) link

Nobody gives a toot, KM

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 3 January 2020 02:05 (eight months ago) link

😂

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 January 2020 02:07 (eight months ago) link

I'm thinking Iran's response would necessarily involve proxies, either using non-state groups as the weapon against the US (probable), or our allies as the proxy targets (less likely), so as to limit the possibility of sparking a full-scale war with the USA, but some kind of response can be expected. I don't think we could expect any NATO assistance here, no matter what transpires.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 3 January 2020 02:11 (eight months ago) link

I want to shout "Impeach the motherfucker!", but Trump has already been impeached so this would just sound lame. I guess it will now have to be "Vote to convict and remove the motherfucker from office!" but that's not nearly as pithy.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 3 January 2020 02:18 (eight months ago) link

who would have guessed these assholes would push us into a war a few months before an election except maybe everybody

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 3 January 2020 06:22 (eight months ago) link

BREAKING: A Deutsche Bank whistleblower has told the FBI that the Russian state-owned bank VTB underwrote Trump's loans: https://t.co/dm2N6mEKa3

— Scott Stedman (@ScottMStedman) January 3, 2020

this seems like a big deal

frogbs, Friday, 3 January 2020 14:58 (eight months ago) link

maybe he'll get impeached

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 3 January 2020 15:00 (eight months ago) link

is this report available anywhere other than "forensicnews.net" (which appears to have been established in May 2019 and whose email address on facebook is forensicn✧✧✧@protonm✧✧✧.c✧✧)

💠 (crüt), Friday, 3 January 2020 15:50 (eight months ago) link

Most everything @DavidEnrich has, I provided. What I didn't provide him FIRST HAND, I directed him toward those that could.
But I can say safely say...
David certainly has 2nd hand knowledge cause his FIRST HAND is too busy stabbing at the backs his of sources. https://t.co/rXNFN45kHR

— val broeksmit (@BikiniRobotArmy) January 3, 2020

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 3 January 2020 15:53 (eight months ago) link

i know it's not important, but why would the first hand being busy stabbing a back mean that the second has knowledge?

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 January 2020 15:56 (eight months ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/IOXwKKH.jpg

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 3 January 2020 17:18 (eight months ago) link

Rep. Phil Roe (R-TN) is retiring, after 6 terms. that makes 22 house republicans who are leaving at the end of the term.

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 January 2020 17:56 (eight months ago) link

22 house republicans who are leaving at the end of the term

Not that all of them are especially high-minded or anything but deep-dyed conservatives, but they didn't owe their first election success to Trump and probably don't like him as a person - because he is deeply unlikeable. By stepping away now, they are further ceding the party to the most fervent of the acolytes in Trump's cult of personality.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 3 January 2020 18:57 (eight months ago) link

Remember that I predicted a long time ago that President Obama will attack Iran because of his inability to negotiate properly-not skilled!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 11, 2013

Yeets don't fail me now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 January 2020 19:02 (eight months ago) link

And the rest of predicted a long time ago that there is and will continue to be a self-pwning tweet for everything

Yeets don't fail me now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 January 2020 19:03 (eight months ago) link

Look: if Obama does it it's evil, if Trump does it it's heavenly, how hard is this.

Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Friday, 3 January 2020 19:35 (eight months ago) link

I wonder if Two Scoops could pull off the tan suit?

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 January 2020 20:20 (eight months ago) link

Soleimani posted memes antagonizing Trump on social media https://t.co/uVBlPwv9jx

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) January 3, 2020

ok now it makes sense

frogbs, Friday, 3 January 2020 20:28 (eight months ago) link

Commander of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (#IRGC) #Quds Force Major General Qassem Soleimani responded to #US President Donald Trump’s announcement that ‘sanctions are coming’ with a Game of Thrones-inspired meme of his ownhttps://t.co/336UFrTL8E pic.twitter.com/5uh1qtQPMB

— Tasnim News Agency (@Tasnimnews_EN) November 3, 2018

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 3 January 2020 20:35 (eight months ago) link

uh oh Robert de Niro is next

or plz, Bette Midler

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 January 2020 21:08 (eight months ago) link

lmao pic.twitter.com/wF3MqaXEIr

— Josh Sawyer (@jesawyer) January 3, 2020

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 January 2020 21:43 (eight months ago) link

dickless wonder speaks

“It is my view that the president does not have the authority for a war with Iran,” Senator Chuck Schumer said on the Senate floor. “If he plans a large increase in troops and potential hostility over a longer time, the administration will require congressional approval and the approval of the American people.”

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 January 2020 21:47 (eight months ago) link

Dow down 233

i thought da war was good for $$$?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 January 2020 22:05 (eight months ago) link

Iran can block the straits with a few hundred mines, and the US has no effective counter (as against drones, the US hasn't invested in mine countermeasures for 5+ decades). That's $7/gal gasoline for 6+ months, regardless of whether a cease fire is reached in days.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool (Sanpaku), Friday, 3 January 2020 22:46 (eight months ago) link

I know that scenario is not one to hope for but ok yeah I hope that happens

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 3 January 2020 23:34 (eight months ago) link

meanwhile, the night this happened I was watching fox news for work (yes, I know, yes, it sucks) to see sebastian fucking gorka defending the administration's slashing of the national security council staff at this very opportune time to do so making the argument, with a straight face, that "eisenhower didn't have this many people it's not like the world was less complicated in the days of eisenhower"

like, maybe I'm not jaded enough somehow, but while the lying no longer surprises me the self-contradiction does, constantly

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Saturday, 4 January 2020 00:52 (eight months ago) link

It's hard to look at some of the departmental organization charts this administration inherited and not see decades of bureaucratic bloat. Too many undersecretaries with advisory but no chain-of-command roles, too many GS-15s. However, this administration is the gardener that prunes your trees to their roots. That excess at the top also provided resiliency.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool (Sanpaku), Saturday, 4 January 2020 01:05 (eight months ago) link

enjoyed reading the recent posts

Dan S, Saturday, 4 January 2020 01:41 (eight months ago) link

where does boris stand (at the moment) on various warrings

mookieproof, Saturday, 4 January 2020 06:12 (eight months ago) link

The apparent fact that the Soleimani assassination was carried out by drone strike at a civilian airport really is the perfect capstone for the last two decades of lunatic American violence. Nothing deflates the hysterically macho chest-thumping self-image of American warmongers than the fact that for the last decade and more the signature U.S. method of killing people has been a robot plus a gamer in a box 10,000 miles away....

The United States is so powerful that it has been able to get away with decades of pointless atrocities. One of these days it will pay for its imperial hubris. That day may be quite soon.

https://theweek.com/articles/887283

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 January 2020 06:33 (eight months ago) link

A is for (Aimless) at 12:57 3 Jan 20

22 house republicans who are leaving at the end of the term

Not that all of them are especially high-minded or anything but deep-dyed conservatives, but they didn't owe their first election success to Trump and probably don't like him as a person - because he is deeply unlikeable. By stepping away now, they are further ceding the party to the most fervent of the acolytes in Trump's cult of personality.


the difference amounts to voting for everything Trump enthusiastically vs. voting for everything Trump wants grumbling a bit and maybe sniping at him behind his back through some anonymous quote to the press

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 January 2020 14:57 (eight months ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 January 2020 14:59 (eight months ago) link

What do Trump supporters make of this? I thought that a lot of people voted for him at least partly because he was going to bring the troops home and not get involved in any more wars

paolo, Saturday, 4 January 2020 15:51 (eight months ago) link

if Trump does it they love it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 January 2020 15:52 (eight months ago) link

you may be shocked to hear that they're very excited about this and often lack a coherent worldview

papa stank (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 January 2020 15:52 (eight months ago) link

xpost

papa stank (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 January 2020 15:52 (eight months ago) link

they love war as long as their side is "kicking ass"

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 4 January 2020 15:57 (eight months ago) link

what do Trump supporters think? let’s ask ILXors what their strawmen on the street are saying

💠 (crüt), Saturday, 4 January 2020 15:59 (eight months ago) link

I wish it were straw men but unfortunately I went to college in Texas and grew up in the deep south

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 4 January 2020 16:01 (eight months ago) link

you may be surprised to know that some of us have actually read what Trump supporters are saying

papa stank (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 January 2020 16:02 (eight months ago) link

or, like in Euler's case, hear about it because we too live in red states

papa stank (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 January 2020 16:03 (eight months ago) link

All you need to know is that if they get any sense that the left would like them to consider a particular position in regards to any issue they will be instantly compelled to enthusiastically and loudly declare their dedication to the opposite stance. Past/future means nothing. Pushback = heel digging.

Evan, Saturday, 4 January 2020 16:14 (eight months ago) link

I'm sure some people on this board have legitimate insight into what Trump supporters are thinking; I just don't think ILX is the best place to find real answers to that question.

💠 (crüt), Saturday, 4 January 2020 16:23 (eight months ago) link

I guess the prenup waiting period isn't up yet. Meanwhile:

I can’t imagine why most voters are deeply cynical about politics and think all the fighting is just a game. pic.twitter.com/95r8jm2QIV

— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) January 26, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 26 January 2020 18:43 (seven months ago) link

“Whoever conceals hatred with lying lips and spreads slander is a fool” -Proverbs 10:18 #SundayScripture ✝️

— Mike Pompeo (@mikepompeo) January 26, 2020

gee, i wonder why his church chose to highlight that scripture today

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Monday, 27 January 2020 00:38 (seven months ago) link

I really can't wait until Jesus comes back and starts beating the shit out of these assholes. As is my understanding of the scriptures.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Monday, 27 January 2020 00:44 (seven months ago) link

WE DONE BANANA REPUBLICED OURSELVES!

earlnash, Monday, 27 January 2020 00:50 (seven months ago) link

aw man

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Monday, 27 January 2020 00:50 (seven months ago) link

Trump to Pompeo on his treatment of NPR reporter: “I think you did a good job on her.” (Laughter in room)

— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) January 28, 2020

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:42 (seven months ago) link

(Laughter in room)

Okay, you're an ambulance (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:04 (seven months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW4q6OFIJOY

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:13 (seven months ago) link

(Laughter in room)

February thread title imo

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:40 (seven months ago) link

the "room" was a gathering to celebrate the unveiling of jared's israel/palestine peace plan, which is so successful zero palestinians representatives were present.

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:45 (seven months ago) link

I can’t believe how irresponsible the next Democratic President was. https://t.co/q94ZGFqzrR

— Seth Masket (@smotus) January 29, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 02:27 (seven months ago) link

kinda surprised trump hasn't tried to seal off all flights from china yet, or something. guess he's been distracted

mookieproof, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 02:34 (seven months ago) link

The "peace plan" sounds terrible and a non-starter. Israel keeps West Bank settlements, trades away Arab-Israeli citizens into Palestine, retains control over Palestine's borders in trade/immigration/security, and opens the Temple Mount for "all religions". Imagine a plan designed by ultra right wing West Bank settlers, and that's the Kushner plan.

Darth Bambi (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 04:33 (seven months ago) link

"I can’t believe how irresponsible the next Democratic President was" lol

Dan S, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 04:34 (seven months ago) link

always like reading your posts Sanpaku

Dan S, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 04:37 (seven months ago) link

bibi's plan to straight-up annex the settlements seems like a pretty big deal

mookieproof, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 04:45 (seven months ago) link

Jared Kushner, senior adviser to the President, says the White House's Middle East plan is "a great deal" and if Palestinians reject it, “they’re going to screw up another opportunity, like they’ve screwed up every other opportunity that they’ve ever had in their existence.” pic.twitter.com/ABAI3gKjig

— CNN (@CNN) January 28, 2020

Number None, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 07:52 (seven months ago) link

Salesmanshit

nashwan, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 08:10 (seven months ago) link

what a stupid little peckerhead he is

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 09:08 (seven months ago) link

Some people are saying the irrepressible giggling from a Fox host as the President's brain audibly melts down should have the entire enterprise sent to a gulag for collusion in treason. You're hearing it more and more, and perhaps they have a point. We're going to be looking into it, and looking into all the things.

Fox News cut away from Trump's rally immediately after his brain short-circuited pic.twitter.com/0jgKzVLb9E

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 29, 2020

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 09:56 (seven months ago) link

Diagnosis of frontotemporal dementia in the comments is intriguing, although 'loss of empathy' is a bit of a stumbling block as a symptom, how could we even tell

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 13:12 (seven months ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 13:19 (seven months ago) link

what the fuck

If the evidence is “overwhelming” and “extensive,” why do we need witnesses? https://t.co/LUWxGLgaTm

— Sen. Marsha Blackburn (@MarshaBlackburn) January 28, 2020

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:18 (seven months ago) link

Gardner, McSally and Tillis “warned colleagues in the meeting against backing more witnesses, people familiar with the matter said. The senators said a drawn-out trial could lead to more Democratic attacks and hurt their re-election chances” https://t.co/NmYNGEnacR

— Joe Sudbay (@JoeSudbay) January 28, 2020

culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:33 (seven months ago) link

Don’t tell them it’s an election year

culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:34 (seven months ago) link

That Lankford tool was on the radio this morning. I think the GOP picks him for his deadpan. First he says there is no first hand account of what Trump is accused of doing. The interviewer says the Bolton manuscript contains a firsthand account. So Lankford says that no one has actually seen the manuscript, just unnamed sources in the paper, and that he and others need to see that manuscript ASAP. So the interviewer asks, why not just call Bolton to testify? And Lankford says he needs to see the manuscript first to see if the claims are credible enough to justify Bolton testimony. And the interviewer says, wait a minute, what does it matter what the manuscript says, it's still just words. Just calll Bolton and ask him yourself. And round and round we go. It's total They Live! sunglasses shit.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:37 (seven months ago) link

Why would the senate allow the testimony of radical leftist John Bolton, he'll just show up and rant about the benefits of collectivist farming for hours

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:40 (seven months ago) link

seriously. give that guy a platform and you might as well just give people free healthcare right now.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:54 (seven months ago) link

I heard he was gonna shave his mustache, wear a dress, ask us to call him "Johnette" from now on, then take ginormous bong hits during his testimony.

Okay, you're an ambulance (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:56 (seven months ago) link

Did you know that John Bolton once served in the administration of a President who tried to blackmail a country into investigating his opponent? How can the senate trust the testimony of such a person?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:57 (seven months ago) link

um wasn't "how can we trust a guy who worked for Donald Trump" a legit defense GOP'ers tried when it came to the testimonies of Manafort and Michael Cohen

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:02 (seven months ago) link

Trump says he might deploy some F-35s to a local air base, saying workers here will see them come in. He says, "Actually they're totally stealth, so maybe you won't see them come in. You won't see them come in."

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) January 30, 2020

sir how do you know they're not already there

frogbs, Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:41 (seven months ago) link

we may have a Feb thread title

NBC News reports:

Trump painted a doomsday scenario under a Democratic president. “If we don’t win, your farms are going to hell,” he said, claiming that under the Green New Deal supported by some of the 2020 contenders, “they want to kill your cows.” “That means you’re next,” he said.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 January 2020 13:33 (seven months ago) link

farms: famously against cow-killing

the main character Cooly and his fart attack (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 31 January 2020 13:34 (seven months ago) link

Good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 January 2020 13:35 (seven months ago) link

he's right. GND has a provision about trading cattle mutilation rights to aliens in exchange for carbon filtering tech

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 31 January 2020 13:57 (seven months ago) link

first they came for my cows and i said nothing

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:45 (seven months ago) link

e-i-e-i-o

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 31 January 2020 15:01 (seven months ago) link

as far as I'm aware, farms are already in complete hell under his policies so I don't know what he's getting at.

akm, Friday, 31 January 2020 16:01 (seven months ago) link

in case you weren't looking fwd to the SOTU next week

“He will contrast his vision with radical proposals being floated on the Left,” said the official during a briefing. “Clearly, socialism is a rising force in the Democratic Party with very specific designs on our healthcare system.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-to-attack-rising-force-of-socialism-in-state-of-the-union-speech

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 January 2020 22:31 (seven months ago) link

"Madam Speaker, Majority Leader McConnell, Senators, Congressional Representatives, and distinguished guests, I am here to report the State of our union is strong... except where it is infested with democrats and socialists who would happily destroy our nation and way of life, as I will now explain at length, using as many untruths as I find convenient for my purposes."

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 1 February 2020 00:47 (seven months ago) link

Every Democrat in the chamber should stand with their backs to him for the entire speech.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 1 February 2020 02:40 (seven months ago) link

And whiz

... that's Traore! (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 February 2020 02:43 (seven months ago) link

All throw their shoes at him at the same time.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Saturday, 1 February 2020 14:14 (seven months ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 February 2020 14:29 (seven months ago) link

"They want to kill our cows" for February title, please.

We're jumping on the road with @Nickelback this summer! (PBKR), Saturday, 1 February 2020 14:36 (seven months ago) link

YOUR cows

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 February 2020 15:10 (seven months ago) link

I shall do it. Give me a minute, ok?

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 1 February 2020 17:46 (seven months ago) link

It is done, to quote a well-known member of the trinity.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 1 February 2020 17:50 (seven months ago) link


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