The September 2019 US Politics Thread is great Great GREAT GR8

surprised the GOP isn't playing the "this is the same as Obama working with Ukraine to investigate Manafort in 2016" card...that sort of idiotic false equivalence is usually their game

we have another 14 months for them to make that argument, i'm sure they'll get around to it soon

Maguire not looking good up there imo

Kinda feel like as the number of people implicated in these shenanigans grows and they (if not Trump himself) start to see some real-world consequences for their actions, those in the GOP with half a brain might begin to see the wisdom in maintaining a little distance from this mess.

Like if public perception starts swinging towards viewing this as legitimate treason, those old tribal bonds might start to dissolve a bit.

the problem there is the assumption that any gop politician in 2019 has anything approaching half a brain to begin with

(This is all just Mr. Brightside pontification, really, though. The GOP is comprised of people all-too-willing to undermine their own best interests in service to the tribe, so I'm under no illusions that there's going to be a swell of outrage over Trump selling out the US.)

lol Nunes is complaining about WH leaks that originated from the WH itself

And he’s very angry that it has happened three times. Lol

btw there should be an impeachment thread. This is going to go on for a very long time.

yeah what's really important right now is how this information got out

Is it worth asking (assuming it hasn't been already) whether Trump was willing to undertake such wildly inappropriate measures in justifying a pardon for Manafort because Manafort still knows some truly damning shit about Trump? Because, sorry, 'loyalty' doesn't quite cut it for me as a motive here.

manafort produced and directed the piss tape

god, remember this piss tape? a simpler, more innocent time

My question was prompted by the likely circumstance of Trump's most vocal water-carriers (eg Nunes) having their fingers in one illicit pie or another and assuming that, whichever way the wind ultimately blows, Trump will unwaveringly stand by them (*snicker*).

And yes, I just assume Manafort has a subcutaneously-implanted piss tape minidisc somewhere on his person.

If the case against Manafort was based on fabricated evidence, it brings into question (at least in their minds) the reliability of all the other evidence against them.

It would be so awesome if Trump is removed from office ... and then the pee tape appears.

and trump starts a lucrative new career as the star of maga-themed golden-shower porn

I think this Maguire guy sounds relatively neutral. At least, he does not seem like an explicit GOP ally, fwiw.

Then again, anyone that works with Trump on a daily basis and doesn't quit or declare WTF at the top of their lungs, well, I maybe I find them innately suspect.

I am so glad that smarter people are starting to run for congress.

Speaking of Carson, here's a funny story, for, well, sad levity. A friend of mine, their spouse does political stuff or at least interacts with political people. A good friend of that spouse worked at HUD, and when Ben Carson was hired said "well, I will do the best I can with what I am given and who I need to work with." After their first meeting with Carson, this person (who is African-American) reported back that it was like being stuck in the Chapelle skit about the black klansman.

This line that the WH counsel just happened to finally come to the conclusion that there is no executive privilege yesterday ...

"Ladies and gentleman, I call to the stand ... Barack Obama!"

I really think we need to get to the bottom of who released the readout of the conversation.

btw there should be an impeachment thread. This is going to go on for a very long time.

oops, i guess we should use the existing one!

Impeach Trump Y/N

Exhaustive look into PeeTape/PeeFake

has anyone noted that this shit is absolutely fucking insane yet

what the fuck

So cute! Her father is under siege, for no reason, since his first day in office! https://t.co/8wtB3H4fth

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 26, 2019

has anyone noted that this shit is absolutely fucking insane yet

― Οὖτις, Thursday, September 26, 2019 4:16 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I remember listening to a conspiracy guy once who claimed that we were all asleep and sharing a dream, but our collective subconsciouses were making the dream increasingly absurd in order to alert us all to the fact that it is a dream and that we should all wake up.

This was a decade ago, doubt he has changed his mind since.

Or maybe he's right! I mean, I often have my doubts. (Bowie timeline, natch.)

it is completely fucking insane.

due to ongoing procrastination at work, i have a ton of stuff i need to finish today, need to stay late, etc - and i can barely concentrate with all of this shit going on.

fun fact: we all died on december 21 2012

dji, thanks for posting that ashley feinberg piece on the pee tape, it's fantastic

Publish the pee tape next.

Or, you know, any pee tape. Asking for a friend.

many xps Found the guy! https://www.awakeninthedream.com/biography

I am finding it hard to deal with what's going on in the UK/USA/HK at the same time, wish they would take turns.

www.pisstape.org

You've outdone yourself again, KM, amazing!

i'm at work so i can't click, but i'm hoping it's just one long stream stream

no typo, for once - i'm talking streaming stream content, possibly streaming stream steam content

♫ Stream a little stream for me ♫

I was gonna go with "whenever I want pee tape, all I have to do is stream. stream stream stream. stre-ee-ee-am.

i'm sticking with streaming stream steam content, it's about the best i can do

had no idea a deepfake (probably) of this had already been made but had been wondering why one hadn't. this one is pretty convincing. I WANT TO BELIEVE

Wait, why are we confident it’s not real? The circumstantial evidence against it Ashely Feinberg notes isn’t full convincing, as she concedes herself

Could easily be a deepfake but it’s very convincing. They got the decor of the room correct

All that we see or stream. Is but a dream within a dream.

Pee Me
Feel Me
Touch Me
Heal Me

Urine my heart, urine my soul

#TreasonBarbie in that Ivanka tweet, LOL. Haven't seen that before.