Stonewall the QUEER SUMMER 2019

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appropriate there is a new thread to commemorate Stonewall

Dan S, Saturday, 29 June 2019 03:04 (three weeks ago) link

wish I was there

Dan S, Saturday, 29 June 2019 03:09 (three weeks ago) link

Stonewall the queer summer? More like bone all who're near summer!

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Saturday, 29 June 2019 13:59 (three weeks ago) link

i'm glad you're moving into comedy, honeybunch

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 June 2019 14:02 (three weeks ago) link

I haven't gotten laid in like five days and i've had enough

surm, Saturday, 29 June 2019 20:05 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwvQ-CPK0Z0

clouds, Sunday, 30 June 2019 15:29 (three weeks ago) link

headed to this today: http://www.ifccenter.com/films/the-queen/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 30 June 2019 15:37 (three weeks ago) link

How was everyone's pride?

surm, Monday, 1 July 2019 12:45 (two weeks ago) link

bcz i did not leave my apartment (except to buy food) until 7:20pm, great!

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 July 2019 14:03 (two weeks ago) link

a few hours downtown followed by a trip up to central park - with a lengthy trip to Washington Square Park - strongly suggested a conflation of Pride with Carnival in a way I'd never seen before.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 1 July 2019 14:40 (two weeks ago) link

I've...never been to a Pride parade.

(Ours were a few weeks ago)

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 July 2019 15:39 (two weeks ago) link

i sorta missed the parade this year but the streets were closed down and everything was shoulder to shoulder from downtown to midtown regardless

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 1 July 2019 15:40 (two weeks ago) link

i'm a bit more of a Folsom Street Fair type, tbh. Pride often just seems like a bunch of corporate hooey and a lot of people getting way too fucked up. i find it depressing, and have felt this way even before i started really cutting back on drinking and partying.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 1 July 2019 15:42 (two weeks ago) link

(for reference to those who've never met me in person, i now drink approximately ten alcoholic beverages a month. i used to do that in the space of 48 hours, on a regular basis, for years).

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 1 July 2019 15:44 (two weeks ago) link

There was an anti-corporate Queer Lib march apart from the big one, but I attended neither.

Folsom Strett East is two blocks long now... I did go to that a week ago, but just spectated for two hours.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 July 2019 15:49 (two weeks ago) link

the SF one was shut down in the middle yesterday for 50 minutes by anti-police /anti-corporation protestors

Dan S, Monday, 1 July 2019 15:51 (two weeks ago) link

I don't go to Pride because I try to go outdoors in the summertime as little as possible.

Herman Woke (cryptosicko), Monday, 1 July 2019 16:00 (two weeks ago) link

yeah, heat + crowds + lots of music I don't need to hear again

spent about two hours in bar both Sat & Sun nights, that was my limit

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 July 2019 16:02 (two weeks ago) link

i know about the protests at the SF parade. know one of the folks who was in that line.

but that disruption still won't get me near anything like a Pride parade. it's just not my thing— you can drag me to a party or something, yes, but a parade? fuck no.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 1 July 2019 16:05 (two weeks ago) link

I went to one once but it was in Berlin, just last year, as it happens. The Christopher Street Parade, they call it there. I had so much fun but I was extremely drunk and it was Berlin and was very ridiculous. I fell out with my friend who had decided to wear a dress but wasn't confident enough to be a guy in a dress so I had to supervise.

Actually, it was shit, apart from being wasted.

Funky Isolations (jed_), Monday, 1 July 2019 22:39 (two weeks ago) link

and I went into the Tiergarten after the parade ended and lots of men were cruising and that so it was interesting.

Funky Isolations (jed_), Monday, 1 July 2019 22:41 (two weeks ago) link

It was an experience.

Funky Isolations (jed_), Monday, 1 July 2019 22:43 (two weeks ago) link

see how bipolar I am.

Funky Isolations (jed_), Monday, 1 July 2019 22:44 (two weeks ago) link

i got excited reading about dore alley parties yesterday (i might go this year with my boyfriend) but i don't know. sometimes it's more fun to read about them, not go, and look at photos / listen to the sets later haha. i don't drink anymore so it's got to either have good music or good socializing. and not be at 2 in the morning. noncompliant is dj-ing. so is dj harvey. the harvey thing looks like a sex party maybe. i've always wanted to see him do his thing but i don't know if it's like too much work. i get tired at 10 every night lol.

xp jed i feel you, i always have the best and worst time at parties, alcohol dramatizes my mood swings.

cheese canopy (map), Monday, 1 July 2019 22:56 (two weeks ago) link

and I know what you mean about being there or not but looking afterwards.

Funky Isolations (jed_), Monday, 1 July 2019 23:00 (two weeks ago) link

fuckin' hate parades
i stayed inside all day in the AC and tried to work on music

surm, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:52 (two weeks ago) link

What goes less mentioned is that Stonewall was just two years old at the time, and when the first pride parade—then known as the Christopher Street Liberation Day March—was held the following year, the bar had already shut down after timidly limiting its drink selection to juices. The space became a bagel shop, a Chinese restaurant, and a shoe store until its current iteration opened in 1990. As much as Stonewall galvanized the gay community, that community navigated both its 1970s heyday and the apocalyptic throes of the AIDS crisis without it. Pride finds a way....

“Circuit parties [gay raves] and parades are thriving. Grindr isn’t killing them and Grindr isn’t killing gay bars. Boredom is,” posits Daniel Nardicio, an impresario of gay nightlife in New York who also runs his own gay bar and cabaret, Club Cumming, with actor Alan Cumming. “Ooh, you have drag bingo? Drag brunch? Drag karaoke? Stop. Give me something new, not just a rainbow on a bottle of Absolut or a retirement home cliché hosted by a drag queen.”

Even as gay bars have ridden the acclaimed historic visibility of television shows including RuPaul’s Drag Race and Pose, they’ve merely become “vessels for viewing parties” of those shows, adds Nardicio.

Gay bars are “stuck,” he says, and he has a theory about why.

“AIDS killed lots of artists and free spirits, but it also killed people who would’ve grown up to become mentors to everyone under 50 now. We grew up alone and without that sense of connection across generations. We lost them, and we’ve paid the price by slipping from the creative class to the consumer class. We went from radical to basic.” “Basic,” according to the Urban Dictionary of American slang, is one “only interested in things mainstream, popular, and trending.” Consider how derivative 2019 queer culture seems compared with 1967. Gay liberation pulls its punches....

In contrast to broad LGBTQ acceptance by the mainstream, queer culture itself has fought and fractured internally largely along racial lines. The idea of a united gay community in 2019 is as much a fantasy as there ever was for a demographic group whose sole uniting factor is sexual preference and societal marginalization—not, say, age, creed, career, class, color, health, or regionalism, the identities around which Americans often coalesce. So as gay bars embrace bachelorettes and other straight audiences even as they tell trans women they “aren’t real women,” or assert that centering blackness too much is “not good for the businesses,” there is actually more of a need for more vulnerable members of the queer spectrum to have spaces that feel safe to them, and exclusively for them.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/the-american-gay-bar-is-down-but-don-t-count-it-out-just-yet

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:25 (two weeks ago) link

totally agree
so much basic
it's shit
i always say i wish i had grown up in new york in the 80s....without all the death.

surm, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:59 (two weeks ago) link

gratified to seem some grousing about the gross corporate hedonism of pride parades, cuz I was starting to feel like a homophobe last weekend for having similar thoughts

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:03 (two weeks ago) link

are you kidding? half my contemporaries are morons, sorry ya shits

surm, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:04 (two weeks ago) link

it's a miracle i found any gay friends in this city tbh

surm, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:04 (two weeks ago) link

They don't come more basic than me, sorry to say.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:05 (two weeks ago) link

waitaminit, surm are you in SF?!

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:07 (two weeks ago) link

you're high-end basic, dear

xp

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:07 (two weeks ago) link

omg no i wish! in NYC, sorry if i confused you!
and Eric i beg to differ. you have a big heart. that's p unbasic, shocking as that may be.

surm, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:08 (two weeks ago) link

btw Happy Roundnumber Birthday, Eric!

The only thing I remember about the summer of '79 is I saw a double bill of Animal House and Putney Swope at my hometown theater.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:13 (two weeks ago) link

Round number and rounder midsection!

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:44 (two weeks ago) link

all part of the otter to bear transformation

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 17:16 (two weeks ago) link

I'm having Jake over tonight
There's a real spark there!
He's adorable and sexy af and I'm a little bit pinching myself
!!!!

surm, Friday, 5 July 2019 21:22 (two weeks ago) link

Jake Ryan?

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 5 July 2019 21:35 (two weeks ago) link

Lol nooooo
Jake with the floppy hair who lives on my street and wants to watch horror movies with me!!!!!

surm, Friday, 5 July 2019 21:40 (two weeks ago) link

damn, see what I miss by hating horror movies

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 July 2019 22:35 (two weeks ago) link

:P he let me top and now I want a burger

surm, Saturday, 6 July 2019 06:21 (two weeks ago) link

Horror movies, topping and burgers?! Keep that one!

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Saturday, 6 July 2019 13:38 (two weeks ago) link

Omg right

surm, Saturday, 6 July 2019 14:44 (two weeks ago) link

hooked up with a dude at a wedding I attended -- Brooklyn's good for that sort of thing

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 July 2019 15:19 (two weeks ago) link

Lol Brooklyn is so slutty. What did he look like?! Give us the deets

surm, Saturday, 6 July 2019 17:33 (two weeks ago) link

Save that bush for Jessica Fletcher.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 8 July 2019 02:45 (one week ago) link

Baahhhahhahhahahahhhhahahahahaha
She was (obv) just on my TV today

surm, Monday, 8 July 2019 02:46 (one week ago) link

I find that pouring gin over the pubes causes them to gasp and self-immolate.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 July 2019 02:54 (one week ago) link

I love my boyfriend so much! We watched the pilot for Pose over dinner at his suggestion and it was weird and sad and beautiful and cheesy and I kissed him after dinner and it was so nice

We are going to Berlin for a vacation at the end of the month, what should we do? A friend is putting us up in Mitte

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 8 July 2019 03:05 (one week ago) link

Yesss we have been watching pose too
It's a v strong show

surm, Monday, 8 July 2019 03:32 (one week ago) link

you guys
i did not feel strong about my sensual encounter yesterday

surm, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:08 (one week ago) link

Last night I watched the Press Your Luck reboot with my BF and it seemed like the right thing to be doing.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:31 (one week ago) link

how long have you guys been together?

surm, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 16:55 (one week ago) link

More than 3 years, somehow! (We were friends for 7+ years before that though.)

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 16:59 (one week ago) link

<3 :+) :+)

surm, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 17:02 (one week ago) link

The real bummer about this set-up, and one which has set up a fairly big potential landmine up for us both, is that we respect each other too much as friends to actually go through with some of the fights that I think it's necessary to have with a significant other. (Not all of them; we have fought. Just not with the id fully unsheathed.)

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 17:24 (one week ago) link

necessary fights = why i have avoided having a S.O.

No Drama Morbama

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 17:26 (one week ago) link

You'll note I've started a tad fewer pointless fights on ILX these last few years.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 17:27 (one week ago) link

i do know what u mean
conflict avoidance can backfire
but honestly sounds lovely!

surm, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 17:33 (one week ago) link

Possibly controversial belief alert, but relationship fights, I think, are a useful tool in helping people better themselves.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 17:35 (one week ago) link

they take a huge toll on me,
but admittedly
sometimes they have made me grow
(in a big way)
currently reading "why buddhism is true"
i like it!!!

surm, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:20 (one week ago) link

i like to grow alone

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:22 (one week ago) link

lol
you can grow your own way!

surm, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:30 (one week ago) link

Play the way you feel it
But listen carefully to the sound
Of your loneliness

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:37 (one week ago) link

like a heartbeat
drives u mad
in the stillness of remembering...

surm, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:40 (one week ago) link

hey, i haven't posted this in years!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoEJQ6ZDzIo

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:42 (one week ago) link

What a mixtape we could all make.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:43 (one week ago) link

excited!!! now if only spotify's web player would work

surm, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 16:55 (one week ago) link

When it does, it's a collaborative playlist so add whatever gives you life this summer.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 17:08 (one week ago) link

so amped, i will work on it from my phone too

surm, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 17:15 (one week ago) link

can you add to it you're on free spotify? i stopped paying for it recently because i rarely used it.

anyway, someone add this on my behalf, please

https://open.spotify.com/track/7815vygbItI6iQg8DTkofq

Funky Isolations (jed_), Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:37 (one week ago) link

I'll Do It Again gets such a wild response.

Funky Isolations (jed_), Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:38 (one week ago) link

That's not the Steely Dan track right? (Link isn't working.)

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:31 (one week ago) link

https://open.spotify.com/track/7815vygbItI6iQg8DTkofq?si=DR8mu7jGTY6M_y9kCliM8g

I'll Do It Again by Omar S.

Funky Isolations (jed_), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:14 (one week ago) link

Added!

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:30 (one week ago) link

it's a good 'un!

Funky Isolations (jed_), Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:56 (one week ago) link

Thanks Eric x

Funky Isolations (jed_), Thursday, 11 July 2019 22:26 (one week ago) link

Not going to put it in the playlist, but this was the song I was listening to the most during pride month this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXmmWBzS-_o

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 12 July 2019 15:19 (one week ago) link

^^^ what a jam

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 July 2019 15:20 (one week ago) link

Not terribly queer tho, tbh.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 12 July 2019 21:21 (one week ago) link

Just added a slew

surm, Saturday, 13 July 2019 12:56 (one week ago) link

I need to get laid this weekend

surm, Saturday, 13 July 2019 13:02 (one week ago) link

Do u ever think about sex and it becomes really weird in your mind? Like you can't believe it exists? And you've been doing it for all this time?

surm, Saturday, 13 July 2019 13:13 (one week ago) link

"Somebody Else's Guy," perfect choice!

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Saturday, 13 July 2019 14:24 (one week ago) link

Do u ever think about sex and it becomes really weird in your mind? Like you can't believe it exists? And you've been doing it for all this time?

― surm, Saturday, July 13, 2019

That's how I think about people generally.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 July 2019 14:59 (one week ago) link

I usually can't believe it exists while i'm doing it

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 July 2019 15:40 (one week ago) link

Lol
Thank u Eric!!!!

surm, Saturday, 13 July 2019 17:08 (one week ago) link

I had gay sex this morning! It was terrific, highly recommend. We listened to "Erotica" afterward and danced around the kitchen in our underwear

Pose is so sad, I can't believe I'm watching it and crying the whole time. I must admit I generally avoid AIDS-centred books and movies and TV and plays (still haven't seen Angels Of America, i.e.) after I had nightmares for a month after reading The Line Of Beauty.

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 13 July 2019 19:26 (one week ago) link

No gay sex for me today, and I feel like I'm in the masturbatory equivalent of The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Saturday, 13 July 2019 19:43 (one week ago) link

my hair down there fell out during radiation, and tbh i kind of don't mind that it's coming back much thinner... fine with crown and some ball hair, but my shaft we pretty hair and now it's not, so...great!

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 14 July 2019 22:07 (one week ago) link

you will have a gnarly renaissance, tabes

also the barren parts of my scalp are showing signs of hairy life, kinda like the Genesis planet at the end of Wrath of Khan

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 July 2019 00:49 (six days ago) link

my keyboard is obviously having trouble..."fine with crown and some ball hair, but my shaft was pretty hairy and now it's not, so...great!" was how that should have read lol.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 15 July 2019 01:16 (six days ago) link

<3 u guys. you are both amazing men.

surm, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:52 (five days ago) link

so i met someone on grindr who is like totally beautiful...we were sexting for like 8 hours yesterday. but he's kind of out of my league. i'm p nervous to meet him what if he thinks i'm a shmo? oh also he's bi!!!!!!!!!!!!

surm, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:24 (five days ago) link


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