"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

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I am told cabinet secretary Mark Sedwill and attorney general Geoffrey Cox informed Cabinet that if at the end of the Letwin process MPs pass a motion mandating the PM to pursue a new route through the Brexit mess - perhaps a referendum, or membership...

— Robert Peston (@Peston) March 26, 2019

Also this is absolutely huge if true, it completely defangs May and means she can't simply refuse to sign off on what Parliament agrees.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 09:19 (five years ago) link

Click through for the thread.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 09:19 (five years ago) link

Nobody posted this yet?

Got to hand it to @krishgm for this exemplary #c4news intro for thick Tory charlatan Ben Bradley MP. pic.twitter.com/c6xjxxZwTu

— Paddy Sisyphus (@PaddySisyphus) March 26, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 09:22 (five years ago) link

They may well have done but posts on this move so fast it could be under the crease by now. Seconding suggestion we have a new thread, please leave some variant of “we’re all gonna die lol” in there so we don’t have to explain every time that Brexit is bad.

gyac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 09:25 (five years ago) link

We should find technical solutions to the new thread problem.

Those options are amazing. Our best and brightest in the mother of parliaments at work

stet, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 09:28 (five years ago) link

In this video, May will show you how to concoct an absolute mess 🙃 pic.twitter.com/tPl611t9W5

— Momentum (@PeoplesMomentum) March 26, 2019

this didn’t do usual momentum video numbers but I laughed at the panic stage

gyac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 09:35 (five years ago) link

Excellent work in this thread by all, enjoyed catching up! Also holy shit at https://isbritaingreatagain.com/ <3

But what of Boris Johnson? By Sunday night, the erstwhile foreign secretary had unleashed another auto-parodic Daily Telegraph column quoting the God of Exodus, imploring: “Let my people go.” Oh dear. Even when he most needs to give the impression that he does, Boris Johnson is a man still unable to take himself seriously. That is his tragedy; unfortunately, he is ours.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/26/brexit-indicative-votes-grand-wizards-ultras

xp kmao

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 09:38 (five years ago) link

Tragically I think option A's "and bans MPs from ever doing this again without a 2/3 majority" means letting the MPs pick rules for a bit rather than Brexit.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 11:03 (five years ago) link

the letwin process
the malthouse compromise
the bourne amendment?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 11:05 (five years ago) link

Begging petition
Good fun time placards
The start of the county cricket season

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 11:56 (five years ago) link

https://www.hermitary.com/literature/moomin/muskrat-05.jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 11:59 (five years ago) link

Neil O’ Brien and the way he might look at you.

gyac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 12:06 (five years ago) link

What is there in uselessness to cause you distress?

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 12:14 (five years ago) link

Watching May say that the petition process has been monitored in case of “fraudulent signatures”.

gyac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 12:16 (five years ago) link

Shameful q & a there at pmqs about the armed services.

“My son is the 4th generation to serve, can the Prime Minister assure him that if he is on an operational tour and mistakes are made and soldiers lose control and things go horribly wrong that he will not, fifty years later, be dragged out of bed at 6am and arrested?”

Just stick to killing the lessers and you’ll probably get away with it, that’s what the government is signalling with it’s disgraceful statements about this.

gyac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 12:25 (five years ago) link

‘prime minister, can you please confirm that soldiers will continue to remain free from the consequences of war crimes’

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 12:27 (five years ago) link

i didn't join a volunteer army to be held accountable for my actions in service ffs

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 12:27 (five years ago) link

Can’t believe you can’t just kill the paddies without someone getting mad about it, it’s PC gone maaaaaaad

gyac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 12:30 (five years ago) link

Cultural Marxism strikes again.

Don't Go Back to Brockville (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 12:31 (five years ago) link

well if that's what it means certainly im agin it

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 12:35 (five years ago) link

cultural marxism means killing paddies and the more paddies you kill the more culturally marxist it is

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 12:36 (five years ago) link

dominic cummings on the erg lot is pretty full-on:

Those of you in the narcissist-delusional subset of the ERG who have spent the last three years scrambling for the 810 Today slot while spouting gibberish about trade and the law across SW1 — i.e exactly the contemptible behaviour that led to your enforced marginalisation during the referendum and your attempt to destroy Vote Leave — you are also in the pirate category. You were useful idiots for Remain during the campaign and with every piece of bullshit from Bill Cash et al you have helped only Remain for three years. Remember how you WELCOMED the backstop as a ‘triumph’ in December 2017 when it was obvious to everybody who knew what was going on — NOT the Cabinet obviously — that this effectively ended the ‘negotiations’? Remember how Bernard Jenkin wrote on ConHome that he didn’t have to ‘ruin his weekend’ reading the document to know it was another success for the natural party of government — bringing to mind very clearly how during the referendum so many of you guys were too busy shooting or skiing or chasing girls to do any actual work. You should be treated like a metastasising tumour and excised from the UK body politic.

kolarov spring (NickB), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 12:58 (five years ago) link

xp Do rice paddies count?

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 12:58 (five years ago) link

That's cultural Maoism

The Xylems of the Limes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:01 (five years ago) link

https://www.ft.com/content/0037f404-4fea-11e9-9c76-bf4a0ce37d49

worth remembering in the context of "realist" assessments of what the establishment war on an anti-austerity government in the UK will look like

plax (ico), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:01 (five years ago) link

bringing to mind very clearly how during the referendum so many of you guys were too busy shooting or skiing or chasing girls to do any actual work. You should be treated like a metastasising tumour and excised from the UK body politic.

What a normal person. Is this one of his 18k blog posts about how everyone but him is wrong?

gyac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:05 (five years ago) link

Remember how Bernard Jenkin wrote on ConHome that he didn’t have to ‘ruin his weekend’ reading the document to know it was another success for the natural party of government

no, i really don't

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:07 (five years ago) link

Plax, can you excerpt some of that FT piece?

suzy, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:07 (five years ago) link

Asking the PM to give assurances on things 50 years ahead when she can't assure on things 50 minutes ahead.

nashwan, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:09 (five years ago) link

https://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2017/12/bernard-jenkin-so-you-want-to-know-what-the-eu-deal-means-my-advice-is-find-a-good-lawyer.html

Now, I was always rather scornful of Ken Clarke’s blasé admission that he never bothered to read the Maastricht Treaty before it was signed – but let’s face it, we always rather admire his chutzpah. I do not claim the same kind of mantle, but I confess I did not wreck my whole weekend trying to understand every nuance of this obscure text.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:14 (five years ago) link


Portugal posts lowest budget deficit in 45 years of democracy
Shortfall down from bailout level of 11.2% of GDP in 2011 to 0.5% today
Pedestrians walk along Augusta street in the Baixa district of Lisbon, Portugal. © Bloomberg

Portugal’s budget deficit fell to 0.5 per cent of gross domestic product in 2018, the lowest level since the country returned to democracy 45 years ago, the National Statistics Institute (INE) said on Tuesday.

Mário Centeno, finance minister in the Socialist government, said the reduction demonstrated that Portugal had “gained credibility” and “shown Europe that there is an alternative [to austerity].”

The deficit has fallen from 11.2 per cent of GDP in 2011 when Portugal negotiated a €78bn bailout with the EU and the International Monetary Fund. President Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa said a zero deficit was possible this year.

The minority government, which is supported in parliament by the communist and radical left, initially budgeted for a deficit of 1.1 per cent of GDP in 2018, but subsequently revised its projection downwards to 0.7 per cent.

Mr Centeno is targeting a deficit of 0.2 per cent of GDP this year.

The reduction in 2018 was mainly driven by an increase in government revenues, including taxes and social security contributions reflecting economic growth and rising employment, INE said.

The revenue increase saw the tax burden rise to a record level of 35.4 per cent of GDP, up from 34.4 per cent in 2017.

António Costa, the prime minister, described the drop in the deficit to a record low as “historic”. The reduction was “not the result of cutting spending or increasing taxes”, he said, “but of policies that have restored confidence”.

Mr Costa came to office in late 2015, after an inconclusive general election, promising to “turn the page on austerity”.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:16 (five years ago) link

lol formatting fail sorry

plax (ico), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:17 (five years ago) link

i thought i knew what i was doing

plax (ico), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:17 (five years ago) link

Eesh, this was the only video I could find of the pmq question I paraphrased upthread

If you ever had any doubt that we live in a fascist country, here is Tory MP asking the PM to guarantee that his son be allowed to commit actual literal murder without having to worry about consequences pic.twitter.com/sa7MPe3Z0Q

— ACAB Rees-Mogg (@jelly_pack) March 27, 2019

gyac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:18 (five years ago) link

What a normal person. Is this one of his 18k blog posts about how everyone but him is wrong?

you guessed it!

kolarov spring (NickB), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:21 (five years ago) link

ACAB rees-mogg

👀

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:22 (five years ago) link

haha

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:22 (five years ago) link

follow-up tweet is god level too

Would my right honorable friend the Prime Minister agree, that when we declare war on Ireland, my beautiful sons, Jolyause and Chaunssey, should be allowed to indiscriminately exterminate redheads, unburdened by petty legality?

[HOUSE OF COMMONS ERUPTS IN STANDING OVATION]

— ACAB Rees-Mogg (@jelly_pack) March 27, 2019

Neil S, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:23 (five years ago) link

I did laugh at that, helped with the sick taste in my mouth somewhat!

gyac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:25 (five years ago) link

Dom Cums also being held in contempt by/of parliament today, it makes no real difference to his life afaict but he’s not exactly someone who likes being told what to do or that he’s wrong.

gyac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:27 (five years ago) link

some chat abt that ft article, the portuguese economy and how instructive an example it might be in the euro politics thread - Rolling European Politics Thread

ogmor, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:29 (five years ago) link

The government will apparently be whipping against the business motion on the indicative votes - which means against the idea that the house will hold the second runoff vote on Monday - so nothing would come of this at all.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:37 (five years ago) link

the party of no

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:41 (five years ago) link

LABOUR BREXIT LATEST: Jeremy Corbyn's spokesman explains that the party only supports a referendum on a "damaging Tory Brexit". If Labour takes power, he says, it will negotiate a better Brexit, which won't need a referendum.

There's that coherent Brexit position again which has absolutely nothing of the arrogance of May's deal.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:46 (five years ago) link

Conservative party to be bankrupted by Brexit, too perfect https://www.ft.com/content/8e553444-4fe6-11e9-b401-8d9ef1626294

Neil S, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:46 (five years ago) link

seems like that approach (1) contradicts what they’ve been saying for a while, (2) would demotivate its activists and (3) alienate a large percentage of its base

xp

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:52 (five years ago) link

That spokesman is always coming out with shit like that.

gyac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:58 (five years ago) link

the negotiations are finished you dipshits, give it up

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:59 (five years ago) link

yes spokesman #1 did say something similar when there was the initial big brouhaha about labour’s Shift Towards Referendum

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:59 (five years ago) link

It doesn't actually contradict what they've been saying before, Corbyn hasn't taken Labour's own Brexit proposal off the table at any point.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 14:01 (five years ago) link


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