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maybe it's time to de-poll

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 2 December 2017 23:49 (two months ago) Permalink

a quick poll about Russia and Donald Trump

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 2 December 2017 23:49 (two months ago) Permalink

On Dec. 29, a transition adviser to Mr. Trump, K. T. McFarland, wrote in an email to a colleague that sanctions announced hours before by the Obama administration in retaliation for Russian election meddling were aimed at discrediting Mr. Trump's victory. The sanctions could also make it much harder for Mr. Trump to ease tensions with Russia, "which has just thrown the U.S.A. election to him," she wrote in the emails obtained by The Times.

It is not clear whether Ms. McFarland was saying she believed that the election had in fact been thrown. A White House lawyer said on Friday that she meant only that the Democrats were portraying it that way.

But it is evident from the emails - which were obtained from someone who had access to transition team communications - that after learning that President Barack Obama would expel 35 Russian diplomats, the Trump team quickly strategized about how to reassure Russia. The Trump advisers feared that a cycle of retaliation between the United States and Russia would keep the spotlight on Moscow's election meddling, tarnishing Mr. Trump's victory and potentially hobbling his presidency from the start.

As part of the outreach, Ms. McFarland wrote, Mr. Flynn would be speaking with the Russian ambassador, Mr. Kislyak, hours after Mr. Obama's sanctions were announced.

"Key will be Russia's response over the next few days," Ms. McFarland wrote in an email to another transition official, Thomas P. Bossert, now the president's homeland security adviser.

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 2 December 2017 23:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Cost of Mueller investigation to date: $5 million
Number charged or pled guilty as a result: Four

Cost of investigation of Hillary Clinton's role in Benghazi: $100+ million
Number charged or pled guilty as a result: None

Cost of GOP Tax Scam: $1,500,000,000,000
Number damaged: 323,000,000 give or take a few dozen.

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 3 December 2017 00:14 (two months ago) Permalink

U.S. House Republicans are drafting a contempt of Congress resolution against Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray, claiming stonewalling in producing material related to the Russia-Trump probes and other matters.

Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes and other committee Republicans, after considering such action for several weeks, decided to move after media, including the New York Times, reported Saturday on why a top FBI official assigned to Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe of Russia-Trump election collusion had been removed from the investigation.

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 3 December 2017 19:34 (two months ago) Permalink

we need to stand by our russian allies

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 7 December 2017 13:17 (two months ago) Permalink

ten cups of coffee says Haley was just shooting from the hip with that random shit

El Tomboto, Thursday, 7 December 2017 13:21 (two months ago) Permalink

"The obstructionist Democrats are going to shut down the olympics, because weak on crime, and Alabama, and the Supreme Court!"

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 December 2017 13:22 (two months ago) Permalink

I read it again - that’s pretty classic completely-unprepared-for-the-question ad-libbing, except as an unelected official with a limited remit she could’ve said “nothing’s changed about our commitment to the Olympic Games but we are of course keeping a close eye on the situation” - but no, full derp; then again it accidentally throws the State Department under the bus, so that’s a bonus for this administration

El Tomboto, Thursday, 7 December 2017 13:29 (two months ago) Permalink

and then there were five . . . bannon, kushner, pence, don jr, don sr

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 7 December 2017 14:02 (two months ago) Permalink

maybe six if you count sessions

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 7 December 2017 14:04 (two months ago) Permalink

Don Jr.'s b.s. attorney-client privilege defense - that he doesn't have to reveal a conversation with his dad because there was an attorney in the room or whatever - seems like such shit that I assume he's begging for a subpoena or otherwise risks contempt.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 December 2017 14:46 (two months ago) Permalink

It’s as if his counsel did a completely terrible job preparing him for the interview

El Tomboto, Thursday, 7 December 2017 15:06 (two months ago) Permalink

& I’m guessing most of these fucking yokels are stupid enough to lie to their own lawyers, so it might not even be his attorneys’ fault

El Tomboto, Thursday, 7 December 2017 15:07 (two months ago) Permalink

We're dealing with matryoshka dolls of lawyers with their own lawyers.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 December 2017 15:16 (two months ago) Permalink

former KGB agents pulled off the most epic maskirovka troll of all time -- hijack the GOP/koch/fox nation put an un-dentured (pun intended!) servant in the white house whose debt they own. go capitalism

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 7 December 2017 15:21 (two months ago) Permalink

even charter school chait is starting to catch on

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 7 December 2017 15:48 (two months ago) Permalink

a greek, stephanopolous is providing cover for another greek here, a covfefe boy merely ~

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 8 December 2017 13:51 (two months ago) Permalink

uh oh sure looks like ol' 2spurs instructed general flynndictment to lie to the FBI. who ever would have guessed?

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:04 (two months ago) Permalink

Excited to see the progresssion of these nicknames.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 11 December 2017 20:10 (two months ago) Permalink

i started callin him "ol cloggy veins" but it's not caught on.

correlated noise of conformity (Hunt3r), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:15 (two months ago) Permalink

just don't call him 2terms

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:21 (two months ago) Permalink

Ol Rexxon accidentally spilled the beans?? Pretty sure little yam hands isn’t gonna like that.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 18:47 (two months ago) Permalink

"a pussy-grabbing casino bankrupt who’s coherent for about 20 minutes in the morning" doesn't quite roll off the tongue nerdstrom poindexter

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 19:58 (two months ago) Permalink

settle down

Literally no part of this is "exclusive." This meeting was televised live to entire @StateDept press corps. And Tillerson says this all the time. See: Wilson Center speech two weeks ago, OSCE speech last week in Vienna

— Josh Lederman (@joshledermanAP) December 12, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 19:59 (two months ago) Permalink

what does sir richard dearlove know about anything anyways?

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:37 (two months ago) Permalink


BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 16 December 2017 01:38 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, but other than all those facts, what do they have? Nothing! Fake white paper!

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 December 2017 22:52 (two months ago) Permalink

deep lurching dread, all this stuff gives me

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 18 December 2017 02:24 (two months ago) Permalink

fake news, witch hunt, drivel

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 01:27 (two months ago) Permalink

the 'law & order' republican congress is investigating the FBI (who refused to disclose to the american public that they were investigating russia for influence on the trump campaign) . . . for bias against donald trump. you go, jim jordan and devin nunes. this is where america is in the age of putin :)

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 21 December 2017 15:35 (one month ago) Permalink

The GOP have taught me that I can do basically whatever I want as long as I couch it in terms that sound reasonable to those affected by my actions.

Me: 'I'm a patriot, and law and order are my paramount concerns.' (simultaneously and impressively burns down someone's house while shitting on an American flag)
My victims: 'He's such a patriot, and his respect for law and order is truly admirable.'
Me: 'PS, I can't believe the Democrats just burned down your house. Sad!'

Encyclopedia Beige and the Case of the Bland Sandwich (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 December 2017 15:47 (one month ago) Permalink

a GOParable: FBI agent preter strzok reacting to the trump campaign lying about russian contacts they were warned to avoid is the real villainy here

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 21 December 2017 16:11 (one month ago) Permalink

I know modern conservatives have no politics outside of resentment but it’s still been pretty wild watching the “blue lives matter” crowd call for the disbanding and prosecution of the entire FBI

— KT NELSON (@KrangTNelson) December 14, 2017

frogbs, Thursday, 21 December 2017 16:42 (one month ago) Permalink

“this secular religion” *closes lrb*

y'know, LIBS! libertarians, libertines, even liberians and librarians (Hunt3r), Sunday, 31 December 2017 16:55 (one month ago) Permalink

not interested in male opinions on this particular theory tbh

maura, Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:02 (one month ago) Permalink

Intriguing question asked: what does it mean that Rod Rosenstein has not yet recused himself?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 January 2018 17:38 (one month ago) Permalink

2/2 Imagine a case involving a major drug ring. Investigators bypass the leaders, their lieutenants, regional dealers, money people & so forth and go straight to prosecuting a neighbor who disclosed the gang to the press. This makes just about that much sense.

— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) January 5, 2018

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 5 January 2018 20:24 (one month ago) Permalink

to go with the bad analogy: the major drug ring is being investigated and no drugs have been found

khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 January 2018 20:30 (one month ago) Permalink

but they're swimming in contraband vodka

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 5 January 2018 21:04 (one month ago) Permalink

Hard to process the idea of anyone currently thinking there’s nothing to the Russia investigation.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 5 January 2018 22:29 (one month ago) Permalink

If the Russians were out to defeat Hillary Clinton (which every intelligence agency says they were), why would try to damage her opponent?

If the Trump team is innocent, why have they consistently lied about almost every aspect of the Russia investigation?

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 5 January 2018 22:39 (one month ago) Permalink

Also there have been indictments, guilty pleas, publicly admitting to obstructing the investigation, almost everything Trump does and says etc

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 5 January 2018 22:44 (one month ago) Permalink

feel like there's enough out there in public to make a strong case for a half dozen cases of obstruction of justice, if nothing else

also think that if Trump & his gang were ever straight up offered a quid pro quo like this they'd gleefully accept w/o knowing that such a thing would even be illegal

all that said most likely outcome seems to be a zillion crimes getting uncovered and the House and Senate doing fuck all about it besides trying to throw Mueller in jail

frogbs, Friday, 5 January 2018 22:59 (one month ago) Permalink

i won't be surprise if once the dust settles the russians are all like, 'look, we were just as appalled by trump as you yanks'

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 9 February 2018 23:56 (one week ago) Permalink

xp i imagine that nsa doesn't know exactly what's been stolen from them and therefore doesn't know what all it needs to scrap/rework

mookieproof, Saturday, 10 February 2018 00:12 (one week ago) Permalink

I can’t follow that story at all. Unnamed sources have said that unnamed sources were interested in anonymous pronouns nationality Shadow Brokers Trump money Dan Coats Mueller. Berlin.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 10 February 2018 00:32 (one week ago) Permalink

OK lol @ gross incompetence of sigint people trying to do a humint job - but also sad

El Tomboto, Saturday, 10 February 2018 00:48 (one week ago) Permalink

Unnamed sources have said that unnamed sources were interested in anonymous pronouns nationality Shadow Brokers Trump money Dan Coats Mueller. Berlin.

I think you misspelled "Benghazi" there bro

I will finish what I (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 10 February 2018 01:27 (one week ago) Permalink

damning review

One tip-off was in Michael Flynn’s December 1 “allocution”—his signed submission to the court as part of his guilty plea to making false statements to the FBI on January 24, 2017. It received almost no media attention but suggested the nature of the criminal conspiracy that would likely be at the heart of Mueller’s prosecution.

Flynn didn’t just vaguely admit he lied. The law doesn’t allow that. He admitted in writing that his lie “had a material impact” on the FBI’s probe “into the existence of any links or coordination between individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and Russia’s efforts to intervene in the 2016 election.”

hurry up, mr. mueller!

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 10 February 2018 18:11 (one week ago) Permalink

What the hell is up with this?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 14:13 (one week ago) Permalink

boy I really hope that guy doesn't mysteriously wind up dead

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 14:18 (one week ago) Permalink

we need to get this guy on the case. american IC is more and more "compromised" by trump m.mulvaney-ing the FBI / CIA

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 14:31 (one week ago) Permalink

It would be nice to think that Navalny has been allowed to persist because his profile in the West has risen too much....seems more like Putin has calculated that the public is now so inured to these crimes that he poses no real threat. New normals everywhere.

A couple months before that boat trip (June 2016) Victoria Nuland was asking congress for billion$ "to deploy an additional rotational Armored Brigade Combat Team (ABCT) to Central and Eastern Europe; the prepositioning of combat equipment; as well as additional trainings and exercises in Europe."

Entrepreneurial Jism Unshackler (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:22 (one week ago) Permalink

the escort's instagram is wild. she's claiming that oleg is suing her to remove the photos and that it's an end-run around blocking youtube and instagram in russia?

maura, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:32 (one week ago) Permalink

Some knucklehead at the IC testimony today asked smugly if the Steele Dossier is still considered "salacious and unverified." IC guy paused then said he would have to address that in closed session (!).

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:58 (one week ago) Permalink

Same dude asked first if Steele had been employed by Oleg.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:59 (one week ago) Permalink

The escort is also threatening to sue Deripaska for rape if he doesn’t agree to marry her and led a partially-clothed street protest / publicity stunt in favour of Harvey Weinstein a few months ago. She’s a colourful character.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:14 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah, that Weinstein protest was in the video. Looks like she stuck sparklers in her butt.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:33 (one week ago) Permalink

The column he quotes... How can anyone write shit like this with a straight face?

There has long been a fringe on the far right that believes the Clintons are responsible for murdering dozens of people in order to silence them. Sometimes, people who thought that way were in the mainstream, as evidenced by the leading role played by the Wall Street Journal editorial page in pushing the theory that Hillary Clinton had former White House attorney Vince Foster murdered.

But those people have been largely scorned and relegated to obscurity. The new conspiracy theorists — the ones who casually suggest that when a plane crashes, it is really a secret attempt by Putin and Trump to silence one of the passengers (who wasn’t even a passenger) — are found not on far right websites, but on MSNBC and at Harvard Law School, with constantly growing social media followings and increasingly viral tweets.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:15 (one week ago) Permalink

Seth Rich anyone?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:15 (one week ago) Permalink

Is the Seth Rich theory "in the mainstream"?

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:21 (one week ago) Permalink

As in has anyone published anything regarding it in publications comparable to the WSJ?

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:21 (one week ago) Permalink

The more outré Russia conspiracy theories are definitely more mainstream/visible than the Seth Rich thing imo

Simon H., Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:22 (one week ago) Permalink

xp. Well given that Louise Mensch had an op-ed in the NYT I would say so.

oh, ok, fox covered it. i guess it's mainstream in terms of visibility and viewership.

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:26 (one week ago) Permalink

Sean Hannity devoted several nights to Seth Rich, wtf?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:27 (one week ago) Permalink

Fox News is obviously a bit of an outlier in terms of the fact that it is a huge network but is batshit insane

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:30 (one week ago) Permalink

And you should really read the column, the whole thing is about a weirdo dude on twitter. Not exactly a great example if the point is mainstream acceptance.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:31 (one week ago) Permalink

Also, try and google 'Breitbart Seth Rich' and 'Infowars Seth Rich'. Conspiracy hustling IS the right wing media mainstream.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:37 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah but fox news is also very much in the public sphere in a lot of parts of the country.

maura, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:20 (one week ago) Permalink

The politicization of the DoJ at the hands of a far-right AG, amid an attempted purge of employees deemed insufficiently loyal, is never described as McCarthyism, but the idea that the "deep state" is full of secret leftists, here protecting their traitorous queen....

— Charles Davis (@charliearchy) December 21, 2017

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:22 (one week ago) Permalink

Does Greenwald still talk about Louise Mensch? That may indicate some degree of desperation on his part if he’s done that say in the past year.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:26 (one week ago) Permalink

What the hell is up with this?

"allegedly" oleg deripaska, sergei pridhodko, and paul manafort were the go-betweens between mr. putin and mr. trump?

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:27 (one week ago) Permalink


reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:30 (one week ago) Permalink

not sure re Mensch but bear in mind the NYT gave her a byline less than a year ago, only a couple months before it was broadly agreed she was certifiable

Simon H., Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:34 (one week ago) Permalink

Yes, that is in the Chait piece.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:47 (one week ago) Permalink

have yet to read, was responding to NP regarding the acceptable Mensch burn window

Simon H., Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:50 (one week ago) Permalink

yes there is certainly no lunatic fringe today on RussiaRussiaRussia

I am so confused-- now it's RUSSIA that is spreading the real/fake stories about Russian influence over Trump?!

— Peter Hart (@peterfhart) February 13, 2018

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 23:23 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah sure but that’s not a good example probably.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 23:44 (one week ago) Permalink

I find that plausible: that it's as much about sowing chaos as it is about guaranteeing a specific result.

I'm walking on Sondheim (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 10:27 (six days ago) Permalink

Why would Russia not be spreading misinformation about Russia’s activities?

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:01 (six days ago) Permalink

What is this kindergarten playbook people think that foreign intelligence services are reading from

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:02 (six days ago) Permalink

a better example would have been the lib accounts claiming that something awful in the Trump budget was "straight out of the Putin playbook" or whatever

Simon H., Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:03 (six days ago) Permalink

The online version of the article doesn't appear to make that claim any more, if it's from the NY Times.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 13:37 (six days ago) Permalink

never gets old

"There's two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump," McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy's assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.

Before the conversation, McCarthy and Ryan had emerged from separate talks at the Capitol with Ukrainian Prime Minister Vladimir Groysman, who had described a Kremlin tactic of financing populist politicians to undercut Eastern European democratic institutions.

News had just broken the day before in The Washington Post that Russian government hackers had penetrated the computer network of the Democratic National Committee, prompting McCarthy to shift the conversation from Russian meddling in Europe to events closer to home.

Some of the lawmakers laughed at McCarthy's comment. Then McCarthy quickly added: "Swear to God."

Ryan instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying: "No leaks. ... This is how we know we're a real family here."

where's jason chaffetz when you need him? and jim "the USA FISA courts are corrupt tools of hellary benghazobama killton" jordan (r-oh) and devin "grapefruit fucker" nunes? #MRGA

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 17 February 2018 00:09 (three days ago) Permalink

A former top aide to Donald Trump's presidential campaign will plead guilty to fraud-related charges within days — and has made clear to prosecutors that he would testify against Paul Manafort, the lawyer-lobbyist who once managed the campaign.

The change of heart by Trump's former deputy campaign manager Richard Gates, who had pleaded not guilty after being indicted in October on charges similar to Manafort's, was described in interviews by people familiar with the case.

"Rick Gates is going to change his plea to guilty," said a person with direct knowledge of the new developments, adding that the revised plea will be presented in federal court in Washington "within the next few days."

Doctor Casino, Monday, 19 February 2018 01:48 (yesterday) Permalink

case closed. no collusion

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 19 February 2018 01:58 (yesterday) Permalink

Manafort getting squeeeeeeeezed. Gates, that additional mortgage fraud charge ... Mueller must want something from him, I just can't put my finger on what. Maybe cheap rugs?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 February 2018 04:12 (yesterday) Permalink

the thing that trump knows that no one else knows about the latest mueller indictments is that, if you look at them, none of the people indicted were in the trump administration or campaign. and that proves that there was no collusion. and since mueller's work is done, that's the end of the story.

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Monday, 19 February 2018 04:25 (yesterday) Permalink

Makes sense to me.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 February 2018 05:23 (yesterday) Permalink

June 9, 2016 ~ Half Scoop's, Jar Jar's, Manafort's, and Bannon's Trump Tower Russia meeting
June 9, 2016 ~ Trump tweets about missing Clinton emails
June 12, 2016 ~ Wikileaks promises to release more Clinton emails

July 18, 2016 ~ Trump campaign surrogates make RNC Platform Committee soften stance against Russia, reduce support for Ukraine
- Other Platform Committee members note that 2scoops's people took almost no interest in any other platform planks
- Carter Page congratulates Trump surrogates via email: "As for the Ukraine amendment, excellent work."
July 22, 2016 ~ Wikileaks releases DNC emails

but tax cuts! tax cuts!!

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 13:06 (six hours ago) Permalink

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