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the sequel no one asked for! ...to this classic poll by Bo Jackson Overdrive: Worst Third Film in a Series

ironically, i'd argue that this thread isn't just a senseless repeat, since the contents here add up to something kinda different in kind. at three films, you're often still talking "trilogies." once you hit four, with the exception of the "split up the final film" ripoffs of the last few years (not included here), it's absolutely clear you're on an assembly line and they're just going to keep making these until the numbers dip too low. for some of these, #4 was the last gasp, for others it meant things were getting going, but in general i think audience expectations - and the actual quality - here is WAY lower than in the earlier poll, even before i started arbitrarily cutting too-good movies to get down to the fifty options that i think is still the max here. but what was the biggest ripoff at all?

counting only things that feel like a "series," that stayed theatrical all the way through, and which people might plausibly vote for (if you really have a beef with Goldfinger, Star Trek IV, or Fury Road please use the "other" option, then delete your account). NOT counting stuff that got to three movies and then had a remake/reboot ages later (e.g. Shaft, TMNT) but including stuff where the reboot is about the same characters or has pretensions of being a continuation of the earlier story (Rambo, Jurassic World).

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace 14
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull 9
Batman & Robin 5
Jurassic World 3
Scary Movie 4 2
Terminator Salvation 2
Jaws: the Revenge 1
Lethal Weapon 4 1
(other - explain) 1
Alien: Resurrection 1
Exorcist: The Beginning 1
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides 1
Superman IV: The Quest For Peace 1
Death Wish 4: The Crackdown 1
Saw IV 0
Scream 4 0
Rocky IV 0
Resident Evil: Afterlife 0
Rambo 0
Police Academy 4: Citizens On Patrol 0
Vegas Vacation 0
Underworld: Awakening 0
Transformers: Age of Extinction 0
Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation 0
Shrek Forever After 0
Spy Kids: All The Time In The World 0
Step Up: Revolution 0
Sudden Impact 0
The Concorde ... Airport '79 0
A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master 0
The Next Karate Kid 0
Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter 0
The Final Destination 0
Fast & Furious 0
Ernest Scared Stupid 0
Conquest of the Planet of the Apes 0
Bride of Chucky 0
The Bourne Legacy 0
Barbershop: The Next Cut 0
Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers 0
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire 0
The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor 0
Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol 0
Meatballs 4 0
Live Free or Die Hard 0
Land of the Dead 0
Ice Age: Continental Drift 0
Highlander: Endgame 0
Hellraiser: Bloodline 0
Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Road Chip 0


tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Friday, 17 March 2017 05:43 (eight months ago) Permalink

FINAL ARBITRARY CUTS: The Return of the Pink Panther, Herbie Goes Bananas, The Three Ninjas: High Noon at Mega Mountain (which I'm regretting now that i'm looking at it), Penguins of Madagascar (which seems more like a spin-off than a third sequel), and The Sum of All Fears (i can't remember any of these really being marketed as "JACK RYAN'S BACK" - just generic thrillers that happened to all be based on the same guy's generic books).

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Friday, 17 March 2017 05:44 (eight months ago) Permalink

it's weird that a trilogy seems like something grand to aim for, but a tetralogy just seems soooo pathetic

Karl Malone, Friday, 17 March 2017 05:46 (eight months ago) Permalink

Not the "worst" in absolute terms, but Alien 4 and Bourne 4 were the biggest let-downs from previously quality series. Terminator Salvation and Jurassic World were horrific in absolute terms. Not seen Transformers 4, but it surely would be the absolute depths of shit.

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Friday, 17 March 2017 05:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

Also, anyone who uses the word 'quadrilogy' instead of 'tetralogy' needs a kick upside the head.

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Friday, 17 March 2017 05:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

best movie on here by a mile is Ghost Protocol. it's going to be tough to pick the worst.

nomar, Friday, 17 March 2017 05:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

on a totally unrelated note, yesterday i mentioned to my wife that i really wanted to play final fantasy XV, and then i burst out laughing at the idea of final fantasy XV

Karl Malone, Friday, 17 March 2017 05:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

I'm one of those people that kinda likes Alien: Resurrection, even if it's the exact moment when everything that's gone wrong goes wrong... it ruins the xenomorph through overexposure and not rising to their level of nightmarishness save for the one scene with the clones in formaldehyde. If it weren't an Alien movie I'd probably like it better.... colorful popcorn movie, paced for the commercial breaks, in which a blah but okay adventure with an overstuffed cast plays out in a series of individually nifty but collectively disposable scenes. Could be worse. I've more than once walked into a room, discovered this was on, and ended up sitting and watching it for a good while so I guess Jeunet is doing something right.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Friday, 17 March 2017 05:52 (eight months ago) Permalink

Jurassic World had long stretches of being kinda watchable IIRC. It blows all the big scenes and has no sense of suspense or what might be interesting in a given situation, also there are some enormous and distracting plot holes. But I got through the whole thing and only wanted to throw things at the TV maybe 60 or 70 percent of the time.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Friday, 17 March 2017 05:56 (eight months ago) Permalink

Lethal Weapon 4 was the very first one that popped in my head upon reading the thread title so that's what I'm voting for

PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 17 March 2017 06:16 (eight months ago) Permalink

best movie on here by a mile is Ghost Protocol.

― nomar, Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:48 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago)

Agreed, but Thunderball (not listed) is better. Wonder why the Bond films weren't included?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 17 March 2017 06:32 (eight months ago) Permalink

TS exorcist: the beginning vs psycho iv: the beginning

samovars are trying to steep (wins), Friday, 17 March 2017 06:42 (eight months ago) Permalink

Thunderball was the weakest of the Bond movies to date at the time but it'd be hard to think of all those movies as Bond 1-20whatever anyway, there's not too much continuity between them

there's plenty on this list where the first movie in the sequence was pointless shit so really there's no way of finding a nadir

Pengest & Corsa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 March 2017 06:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

That Spy Kids 4 was the aromascape one where the audience were issued scratch and sniff cards and it featured a robot dog voiced by Gervais ... need I say any more?

calzino, Friday, 17 March 2017 06:55 (eight months ago) Permalink

sign me up!

samovars are trying to steep (wins), Friday, 17 March 2017 06:56 (eight months ago) Permalink

obv a 5 star Bradshaw jobbie!

calzino, Friday, 17 March 2017 06:57 (eight months ago) Permalink

bar Gervais, obv, it's probly more imaginative and fun than something like Kate Beckinsale in a trenchcoat punching CGI monsters in the dark vol. 4

Pengest & Corsa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 March 2017 07:03 (eight months ago) Permalink

the entire Ice Age run is just a McDonald's Happy Meal promotion that got above itself

Pengest & Corsa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 March 2017 07:08 (eight months ago) Permalink

Sorry nv but for me the real spy kids 4 will always be the adventures of shark boy and lava girl in 3d

samovars are trying to steep (wins), Friday, 17 March 2017 07:10 (eight months ago) Permalink

no i think that's fair. also better than emo vampires vs emo werewolves.

Pengest & Corsa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 March 2017 07:12 (eight months ago) Permalink

disappointed none of the Hooligan Pornos seem to have made it to number 4

Pengest & Corsa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 March 2017 07:18 (eight months ago) Permalink

here's just the ones i've seen, which isn't a ton -- i usually give up on series before #4. I'll group them into nathan rabin's flop categories.

failures: conquest of the apes, indy 4, scream 4, land of the dead, terminator 4, lethal weapon 4, vegas vacation
fiascos: jaws 4, phantom menace, batman and robin, cannon films superman, die hard: it's an e-bomb
successes: ghost protocol, the mummy 4, pirates of the caribbean 4, jurassic world

think i'll vote for the phantom menace.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Friday, 17 March 2017 07:31 (eight months ago) Permalink

oh and I've seen Ernest Scared Stupid. I don't remember any of it.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Friday, 17 March 2017 07:38 (eight months ago) Permalink

Out of what I've seen it's one of the lucases

Anyone who has seen too many of these needs a word tho

brat_stuntin (darraghmac), Friday, 17 March 2017 10:07 (eight months ago) Permalink

It's surprising how many of these are actually pretty good.

Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 March 2017 12:54 (eight months ago) Permalink

where's Ghost of Frankenstein?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 March 2017 12:56 (eight months ago) Permalink

I have seen:

Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
Jurassic World
Live Free or Die Hard
Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol
A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace
Vegas Vacation

Ghost Protocol is indeed the best thing here, and while quite a few of these are wheezy and exhausted (I tried to remember even one good line or gag Vegas Vacation, but nothing comes to mind), The Phantom Menace is still the biggest out and out suckfest.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Friday, 17 March 2017 13:04 (eight months ago) Permalink

Fuck, I got my Bonds scrambled - I'd have tried to make space for Thunderball. It doesn't really belong amongst the swill here, but it's easily the least watchable until the late Moore films at least. But idk, even in a bad movie it's good to see Connery as Bond, counts for sth against all... that.. swimming.

I struggled with Frankenstein and Dracula and Godzilla, who each have a few "series" - felt like it was a case of, include em all or include none. Tbh Morbs I'd've figured you for an Abbott and Costello Meet The Mummy voter.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Friday, 17 March 2017 13:08 (eight months ago) Permalink

Most of the Universal Monster sequels I've seen are just baaaaarely sequels in any meaningful sense, so I wouldn't sweat that too much.

Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 March 2017 13:20 (eight months ago) Permalink

* Batman & Robin

even joel schumacher regrets this movie

"If there's anybody watching this, that... let's say, loved Batman Forever, and went into Batman & Robin with great anticipation, if I've disappointed them in any way, then I really want to apologize. Because it wasn't my intention. My intention was just to entertain them."

fucking pop records (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 17 March 2017 13:23 (eight months ago) Permalink

Conquest of the Planet of the Apes rules.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 17 March 2017 13:35 (eight months ago) Permalink

I've only seen five of these, of which the worst is Phantom Menace. But I can't imagine Scary Movie 4 not being the worst shit ever.

jmm, Friday, 17 March 2017 13:39 (eight months ago) Permalink

Alien: Resurrection - I think I remember this being okay and at least nice to look at.
The Bourne Legacy - This wasn't as bad as it could've been (and was maybe better than Jason Bourne) but I don't remember a thing about it.
Bride of Chucky - Better than its three precedents but not as good as the immediate follow-up.
Exorcist: The Beginning - I think this was the Renny Harlin version? I saw the Schrader version, which was passable and at least better than The Heretic.
Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers - Probably the worst on this list but I'm not sure I particularly like any of the series except 3.
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - Roughly as good as the rest. A surprisingly decent series.
Hellraiser: Bloodline - Ugh.
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - I only saw part of this on TV at Thanksgiving one year but it looked pretty bad.
Jaws: the Revenge - The shark swims hundreds of miles to get revenge. It jumps out of the water and roars like a tiger. What's not to love.
Jurassic World - Just entertaining enough to offset how bad and stupid it was.
Land of the Dead - Good on its own, though it obviously pales in comparison to its forebears.
Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol - I don't know what the hell Woo was trying to achieve with the second one but this series is otherwise pretty damn solid.
A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master - My favorite of the series.
Police Academy 4: Citizens On Patrol - I started rewatching these a couple years ago for unknown reasons and was surprised to realize that the first two were (while dumb as hell) actually pretty funny. The third one was like if someone was transcribing jokes from the first two while they were half awake so they still had the air of a joke but were divorced from context so they basically just became catchphrases that no one was asking for. Never bothered to rewatch the fourth after that.
Scream 4 - It happened, guess it was okay, barely remember.
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace - I think this was just more boring than anything. Trade disagreements and kids going 'yipeeee!' is not what I look for in a SW movie.
Superman IV: The Quest For Peace - Haven't seen it in years, but I'm sure it's fantastic.

Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 March 2017 13:52 (eight months ago) Permalink

pirates of the caribbean 4 might have the back story which reads most likely a lazy satire of creatively bankrupt hollywood thinking: a movie based on a theme park ride which was then spun into an entirely unnecessary trilogy and then had a fourth installment retrofitted from an unrelated novel

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 March 2017 13:56 (eight months ago) Permalink

Superman IV: The Quest For Peace - Haven't seen it in years, but I'm sure it's fantastic.

― Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Saturday, 18 March 2017 00:52 (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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fucking pop records (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 17 March 2017 14:02 (eight months ago) Permalink

Thank you for the confirmation! That ridiculousness might top ornery, drunken Superman from the third movie.

Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 March 2017 14:11 (eight months ago) Permalink

Superman IV is reeeeal tough to take. I kinda like how lame and OTT the Nuclear Man is but generally the effects are cheap and obvious (there's a long flying sequence with AWFUL rear projections, looks twenty years out of date) and wayyyyy too much of the movie is cheap-to-shoot, nails-on-a-chalkboard love triangle/they're-taking-over-the-newspaper stuff. OTOH it's nice seeing Mariel Hemingway, and while Jon Cryer is annoying as Lex's teenaged nephew or whatever, it's not measurably more irritating than Ned Beatty was as his dimwitted henchman.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Friday, 17 March 2017 14:11 (eight months ago) Permalink

Weren't all of the Die Hard sequels originally totally different scripts/adaptations that shoehorned McClane into the story?

Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 March 2017 14:12 (eight months ago) Permalink

love love love Superman IV so much. It is so awesomely horrible!

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 17 March 2017 14:16 (eight months ago) Permalink

i love scream 4 with all of my heart

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 17 March 2017 14:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

I think Die Hard With A Vengeance is actually *two different* scripts/adaptations that shoehorned John McClane into the story! Or someone's spare list of possible Die Hard sequel treatments, combined with someone's spec script for a Dirty Harry ripoff called 'Simon Says.'

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Friday, 17 March 2017 14:19 (eight months ago) Permalink

actual good films in this list:

fast and furious
bride of chucky
friday the 13th the final chapter
ghost protocol
nightmare 4: the dream master
rocky iv
scream 4
step up: revolution (they do heavily choreographed flash mobs with a live dj to save the community center/neighborhood, a legit masterpiece)

probably gonna vote for halloween 4 but also extremely inclined to vote for terminator salvation

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 17 March 2017 14:22 (eight months ago) Permalink

oh and i like alien resurrection a lot except for the human baby alien design

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 17 March 2017 14:23 (eight months ago) Permalink

best thing in superman iv is superman rolling up to the united nations building in new york to deliver his message of nuclear disarmament

except it was actually filmed in front of a grey concrete hotel in a damp and cold-looking milton keynes and clearly the crew had neither the budget nor the expertise to hide it

it's like superman has turned up to his local council offices to ask about the planning permissions he'll need for his kitchen extension

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 March 2017 14:25 (eight months ago) Permalink

against all the odds tho christopher reeves is still really good in it

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 March 2017 14:26 (eight months ago) Permalink

probably gonna vote for halloween 4 but also extremely inclined to vote for terminator salvation

for real, terminator salvation is an abomination

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 March 2017 14:28 (eight months ago) Permalink

haven't seen many of these...

Alien: Resurrection - agreeably, colorfully & ambitiously bad, disappointing only in light of what came before
Bride of Chucky - entertaining horror comedy, only film in the series i really like
Conquest of the Planet of the Apes - weird, bad & interesting (like all the apes sequels)
Exorcist: The Beginning - complete garbage, one of the worst movies i've ever seen (applies to both versions)
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - good movie, though a big step down from the prisoner of azkaban
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - mediocre crap, not actively offensive
Land of the Dead - ordinary, everyday bad
A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master - terrible but fun, lots of zany, MTV-era nightmare sequences
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - better than the 4th indiana jones flick
Rocky IV - all data lost
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace - horrid and too boring to care about
Superman IV: The Quest For Peace - like rocky iv, i'm sure i saw it, but...
Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation - objectively terrible and yet fascinating, has moments

The sandwiches looked quite dank. (contenderizer), Friday, 17 March 2017 14:58 (eight months ago) Permalink

Rocky IV - all data lost

wtf this is the batshit one where rocky beats seven bells out of the ussr in the form of a heavily-oiled dolph lundgren

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 March 2017 15:00 (eight months ago) Permalink

unforgettable surely

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 March 2017 15:01 (eight months ago) Permalink

Shia was George's baby?!

That explains a few things.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:15 (one week ago) Permalink

I just finished that recent Lucas biography and yeah, Spielberg quotes indicate that -- at least on that particular one -- when it comes to the Indy films he considers himself a for-hire director who executes George's vision, not a collaborator.

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:17 (one week ago) Permalink

I....enjoyed Fast Five. It's still the only FATF film I've seen

imago, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:17 (one week ago) Permalink

Fridge scene is utter shit

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:22 (one week ago) Permalink

THE utter shit

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:23 (one week ago) Permalink

Jeez, how many 5 film series would you even consider watching?

For me... Frankenstein, Dracula, Winners/Gambler, Mr Vampire (first is very overrated but I could deal), Cremaster, Zatoichi, Lassie, Monty Python (this barely counts because I don't consider the live show a proper sequel), Police Story, Once Upon A Time In China, The Street Fighter, Lone Wolf And Cub, Romero's Dead series.

Maybe Gods Must Be Crazy, I gave up early on the first film but the later films are martial arts crossover.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:29 (one week ago) Permalink

iirc the fifth Friday the 13th is bad but there are some worthwhile ones afterwards

Simon H., Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:30 (one week ago) Permalink

The thread is coming!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:30 (one week ago) Permalink

I think we can avoid the painful poll by collectively agreeing that Seed of Chucky is clearly the best fifth movie in any series.

Tied with Final Destination 5.

― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, November 9, 2017 8:10 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

both of these posts are extremely otm

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:33 (one week ago) Permalink

iirc the fifth Friday the 13th is bad but there are some worthwhile ones afterwards

― Simon H., Thursday, November 9, 2017 8:30 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it features the immortal outhouse death so i can't say it's bad exactly but it's one of the less good ones

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:34 (one week ago) Permalink

the worthwhile friday installments after five are: ... pretty much just jason lives

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:35 (one week ago) Permalink

is that the one that opens with the SWAT team fakeout? that one RULES

Simon H., Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:35 (one week ago) Permalink

no that is jason goes to hell

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:36 (one week ago) Permalink

The 7th is pretty OK, but yeah, that's the last one that's any good.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:36 (one week ago) Permalink

which, i guess, simon, you are and i are the only two people on earth who think that movie rules xp

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:36 (one week ago) Permalink

imo jason lives is one of the coolest action movies ever made so i'm not knocking it

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:37 (one week ago) Permalink

clearly I'm due a series rescreen

Simon H., Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:37 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm in the obvious minority in thinking that Jason Goes to Hell is the best in the series by far. I mean, it's not good, but it's completely batshit and at least has the bravery to barely be a Friday the 13th movie.

Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:49 (one week ago) Permalink

Can't agree with RAG about what constitutes a series

Mission Impossible 5 is good

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:50 (one week ago) Permalink

best fourth film in a series, btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9FGgwCQ22w

imago, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:52 (one week ago) Permalink

Oh, yes, MI5 was good. And probably Harry Potter 5, as well. They all blur into one movie in my memory, tbh.

Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:55 (one week ago) Permalink

o yeah HP 5 was excellent

imago, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:56 (one week ago) Permalink

Darraghmac- what you mean? I only disputed a Monty Python live film.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:57 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm in the obvious minority in thinking that Jason Goes to Hell is the best in the series by far. I mean, it's not good, but it's completely batshit and at least has the bravery to barely be a Friday the 13th movie.

― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Thursday, November 9, 2017 8:49 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

we should start a club

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:59 (one week ago) Permalink

XP maybe a discussion in itself, tbh!?

Frankenstein/Dracula, for instance.....are these coherent 'series' or are they lots of movies with recurring characters, kind of thing....is there a Sherlock Holmes 'series' or just Sherlock Holmes movies...jack the ripper, etc etc

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:10 (one week ago) Permalink

They're sort of coherent. There's a universal series and a Hammer series each of Dracula and Frankenstein and they generally stick to a poorly plotted story.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:16 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm pretty sure there are Sherlock and Tarzan films that work as a series.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:17 (one week ago) Permalink

I want it asterisked if allowed

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:18 (one week ago) Permalink

I'd imagine that maintaining some pretense of continuity from installment to installment is a relatively recent feature in the evolution of the film series, and even now only employed sparingly.

Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:23 (one week ago) Permalink

Forgot to mention the Whispering Corridors series. I liked one of those.

Let me know if any of you have watched all the Guinea Pig films. I'm sure you all love them and do a marathon every Christmas.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:32 (one week ago) Permalink

Fast 5 is where the series really turns around, I understand.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:55 (one week ago) Permalink

The secret was more fury.

Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:57 (one week ago) Permalink

18 Abashiri Prison films. 9 Super Giants films.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:07 (one week ago) Permalink

fast five is the best of the series

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:08 (one week ago) Permalink

Probably doesn't need pointing out that some of these 'bests' are similar to favoring the best piece of moldering detritus in one's compost heap.

Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:18 (one week ago) Permalink

Um, it's detrius.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:22 (one week ago) Permalink

looking fwd to the Jason Goes to Hell auteur showing up in the Greatest Directors poll

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:28 (one week ago) Permalink

I have to say, having just looked over his filmography, it's much more varied and intersting than I would've assumed.

Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:36 (one week ago) Permalink

Worst Fifth Film In A Series

Doctor Casino, Friday, 10 November 2017 03:40 (one week ago) Permalink

Asked my household this question and the 12 year old was quick to get 1 and 2 of the results here right on the money. lol.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 10 November 2017 04:26 (one week ago) Permalink

I haven't seen a lot of these, from the ones I know I probably would have gone with Batman & Robin. B&R appears to be a 'so bad it's good' thing, over-the-top camp like the Adam West TV series, but somehow it still manages to want to take itself seriously and becomes pretty unbearable as a result.

I've only seen Crystal Skull once but I actually liked it a lot when I did. No, it's not half as amazing as Raiders or Crusade, but I certainly enjoyed it and loved seeing the return of Marian & that happy end.

I wouldn't say I love it but don't hate Phantom Menace all that much - there's nice design in it and I liked some introductions such as C3PO.
That one theory about Jar Jar actually being a dark Jedi master actually makes a lot of sense, if they'd establish that as canon I'm convinced that it would give that movie an enormous quality boost.

Of those fourth films I've seen, the one I liked best is actually Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. I'm not a Potter fan but when some Potterfan-friends made me see all of the movies I thought this was the best one by far. I really liked the first and the seventh film too & thought they wrapped things up nicely with the last. Didn't care much for the other half of the series. Many seem to favour the third but I thought that one was really boring.

Valentijn, Friday, 10 November 2017 12:48 (one week ago) Permalink

Me and my mate went to see B&R stoned off our heads aged 18 and thought it was fucking hilarious, so I'm very affectionate towards it. I have never watched and will never watch it again.

chap, Friday, 10 November 2017 14:19 (one week ago) Permalink

and I liked some introductions such as C3PO.

Urgh that was one of the worst bits.

That one theory about Jar Jar actually being a dark Jedi master actually makes a lot of sense

I thought it was more or less confirmed that that was Lucas' original intention, but he chickened out after seeing the public's reaction to Jar-Jar, which was pretty spineless of him if true.

chap, Friday, 10 November 2017 14:22 (one week ago) Permalink

it's nonsense or at least not seeded in any way in the first film - jar jar's accidental work towards the plot progressing is presented exactly the same as anakin's.

i was thinking recently of polling the worst, most nonsensical and least necessary attempts by the prequels to set up or fanservice stuff from the original films. but then i couldn't decide whether to include rogue one and the forthcoming han solo nonsense.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 10 November 2017 14:27 (one week ago) Permalink

i would happily vote in that poll fwiw, there's a lot to choose from!

drinkmaster sealcup at yr service (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 10 November 2017 14:33 (one week ago) Permalink

haha okay maybe i'll go through my notes and make that one happen too

Doctor Casino, Friday, 10 November 2017 14:40 (one week ago) Permalink

the one fanservice omission that's really inexplicable in the prequels is that there's no cameo from the millennium falcon

drinkmaster sealcup at yr service (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 10 November 2017 14:42 (one week ago) Permalink

strong possibility lucas forgot it existed

Doctor Casino, Friday, 10 November 2017 14:43 (one week ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN8HTKLsKkU

I'm not sure that poll will be kind to your views of the two latest, Doctor C.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 10 November 2017 16:02 (one week ago) Permalink


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