Greta Gerwig's Barbie movie

First, who cares about the Oscars. But second, talking about the Oscars, it's all too fitting that this movie was nominated for best picture, but not best director or best actress, though Ken gets a nom for best supporting actor. Also, what's up with "Best Adapted Screenplay"? Adapted from what?

Adapted from the Barbie Lore

^not joking

Yes. https://variety.com/2024/film/awards/barbie-moved-adapted-screenplay-oscars-1235848136/

I guess anything adapted from an existing IP, even an inanimate object, counts a an adaptation. Like, I guess The Lego Movie was considered an adapted screenplay, too.

FUN FACT: In 2014, the Academy deemed THE LEGO MOVIE an adapted screenplay even though we had already won the National Board of Review Best Original Screenplay award — because it was based on LEGO bricks and had a LEGO version of Batman as a character https://t.co/UzTl9tS4jj

— Christopher Miller (@chrizmillr) January 4, 2024

And all sequels are adapted from the original film

So would anything incorporating an existing IP, like a Dracula or a Frankenstein('s Monster) or a Mickey Mouse or a Bugs Bunny, count as adapted? What about something like, I dunno, Spirit of the Beehive, which features lots of Frankenstein? Or anything that riffs on The Godfather, like Zootopia?

it's all too fitting that this movie was nominated for best picture, but not best director or best actress, though Ken gets a nom for best supporting actor

And Ferrera getting a nod for saying only "it sucks to be a woman, doesn't it?" for three minutes, and doing practically nothing else throughout the entire film

uh she did a lot more than that

Not compared to Robbie it isn't

well to be fair it is a supporting role nomination. but I agree her performance wasn’t particularly notable

The Maestro is nominated for Best Original Screenplay--kinda odd. Aren't biopics usually seen as adaptations of some sort? I mean someone had to have read a book or two about Bernstein.

They adapted Bradley's nose.

2023's Oscar Nominees

I think biopics can slide if they're not also explicitly based on specific works (i.e. Cooper & Singer based the script on research from several books, articles, interviews etc.).

I would argue that Barbie is probably a more original work than The Maestro

Other original screenplay nominees from the past decade featuring portrayals of real people/events:

King Richard
Trial of the Chicago 7
Judas and the Black Messiah
Vice
The Favourite
Straight Outta Compton
Spotlight
Bridge of Spies
Foxcatcher

the second Borat movie was nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay. Adapted from the Borat character? Who was created by SBC?

Christ almighty there's maybe 3 halfway decent scripts in that entire group

xp Yep, and Glass Onion was adapted from the Benoit Blanc character

The Academy is run by free spirits who appreciate that vibes are more important than rules and rationality.

I guess this would also apply anytime O'Shea Jackson, Jr appears in a film, since he's adapted from Ice Cube's nuts

Seems like they're consistent, at least. It seems hard to argue that Barbie is different from Joker (which was also nominated in adapted).

I was skimming through the last few decades of noms in that category, and it's very rare to see something not adapted from a book, tv show, play, poem, graphic novel, or something narrative/with words. But there are a few other things adapted from general characters. For example, the first Borat was nominated for best adapted screenplay, based on "the character Borat Sagdiyev from the television series Da Ali G Show by Baron Cohen."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Adapted_Screenplay#1980s

^^That might be their reasoning, as there's been other Barbie movies, comics, TV stuff...

didn’t the team push for adapted for a better chance at a nomination/win? feel like there was a story about that recently. or maybe it was the other way around

Other way around. They seemed to think it would be easier for Gerwig/Baumbach to win in original as opposed to adapted (because Oppenheimer) but, in reality, I'd say it's arguably the opposite now that Gerwig got snubbed in director. Anatomy of a Fall and The Holdovers would've arguably been stiffer competition imo

Controp: Competition among artworks is what needs to die.

We will never see justice or fairness or, heck, even sanity in the Grammys, the Oscars, the Tonys, the Emmys, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, or whatever lists Rolling Stone wishes to make.

I am a naive idealistic doofus but I literally do wish we could just celebrate all the things that are out there. ALL the things that someone thought people might want to see.

Yes the bullshit about who does and does not get nominated for the Barbie movie (which I loved unreservedly) is bad. But where is the universe where we can just like stuff? I mean, like it for itself instead of ranking it relative to other stuff?

But where is the universe where we can just like stuff?

A wise man once said be the universe you want to see in the world.

It's Kenough

Best Ken

Yes the bullshit about who does and does not get nominated for the Barbie movie (which I loved unreservedly) is bad. But where is the universe where we can just like stuff? I mean, like it for itself instead of ranking it relative to other stuff?

― Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin),

You can take the Oscars as seriously as you want, man. Most people take it as seriously as a basketball game.

Maybe less. College sports fans are nuts.

best beloved kenson

Yes the bullshit about who does and does not get nominated for the Barbie movie (which I loved unreservedly) is bad. But where is the universe where we can just like stuff? I mean, like it for itself instead of ranking it relative to other stuff?

― Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin)

stuff sucks, things are way better than stuff

B-b-but if we stopped ranking and comparing things, nerds on reddit wouldn't be able to point to data metrics to prove they have better taste than someone else.

I prefer people who don't need data metrics to know they have better taste than anyone else

Rank those examples of taste.

To be clear, I would be perfectly happy with getting rid of all data around films and the like - no meta scores and IMDB ratings.

Whoa now, this is anarchy

If only to spare us redditor AssEater1969 spewing invective about how he has superior tastes to all because his ten favorite films average a 4.3 on Letterboxd and 9.1 on IMdB.

b-b-but then how would we know that "Yesterday" was a pile of?

Although, to be fair, I did come to that opinion before I saw any revies/ratings....

reviews, obv.

Suddenly
I'm not half the man I used to be
My new movie got a 2.3

Greta & Margot,

While it can sting to win the box office but not take home the gold, your millions of fans love you. 

You’re both so much more than Kenough.#HillaryBarbie

— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) January 24, 2024

just came to post that

today she truly became President

https://c.tenor.com/Z5vDuJZVVFkAAAAC/tenor.gif

christ

think margot robbie hard done by and gosling shouldn't be near it but dont think director or best supporting actress really merited any more or less attention for nomination than any other comedy ever