2023's Oscar Nominees

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AMERICAN FICTION; Ben LeClair, Nikos Karamigios, Cord Jefferson, Jermaine Johnson (Amazon MGM Studios)
ANATOMY OF A FALL; Marie-Ange Luciani, David Thion (Neon)
BARBIE; David Heyman, Margot Robbie, Tom Ackerley and Robbie Brenner (Warner Bros.)
THE HOLDOVERS; Mark Johnson (Focus Features)
KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON; Dan Friedkin, Bradley Thomas, Martin Scorsese, Daniel Lupi (Apple/Paramount)
MAESTRO; Bradley Cooper, Steven Spielberg, Fred Berner, Amy Derning, Kristie Macosko Krieger (Netflix)
OPPENHEIMER; Emma Thomas, Charles Roven, Christopher Nolan (Universal)
PAST LIVES; David Hinojosa, Christine Vachon, Pamela Koffler (A24)
POOR THINGS; Ed Guiney, Andrew Lowe, Yorgos Lanthimos, Emma Stone (Searchlight Pictures)
THE ZONE OF INTEREST; James Wilson (A24)


badpee pooper (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:03 (four weeks ago) link

From best to worst:

Maestro
The Holdovers
American Fiction
Oppenheimer
Poor Things
Past Lives
Barbie
The Zone of Interest
Anatomy of a Fall
Barbie
Killers of the Flower Moon

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:06 (four weeks ago) link

uhh worst to best

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:06 (four weeks ago) link

anatomy of a fall vs. poor things for me, tho i haven't seen american fiction, zone of interest, the holdovers (i will prob never see the holdovers), or maestro (i will never ever watch a movie directed by bradley cooper for as long as i live)

ivy., Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:06 (four weeks ago) link

I still have a couple to catch up to, but Anatomy of a Fall is by far the best I've seen and Maestro the worst (just barely over Oppenheimer) ... so far

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:09 (four weeks ago) link

Seen five, plan on seeing two more. 1. Past Lives, 2. Anatomy of a Fall.

clemenza, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:11 (four weeks ago) link

This may be the first time I've seen every film by nomination day.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:14 (four weeks ago) link

you had me worried, Alfred

omar little, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:14 (four weeks ago) link

Well, this gives me some time to catch up

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:15 (four weeks ago) link

Can't believe you prefer Barbie to Barbie, Alfred, u monster

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:17 (four weeks ago) link

of the ones I’ve seen, best to worst. I at least like all of them

killers

poor things
anatomy of a fall

barbie
oppenheimer

truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:18 (four weeks ago) link

Can't believe you prefer Barbie to Barbie, Alfred, u monster

― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch),

Solomonic choices

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:20 (four weeks ago) link

This may be the first time I've seen every film by nomination day.

― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, January 23, 2024 11:14 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Me too?

Anatomy of a Fall
Barbie
Oppenheimer
Killers of the Flower Moon
Past Lives
Poor Things
The Holdovers
Maestro
The Zone of Interest
American Fiction

jaymc, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:27 (four weeks ago) link

These are all 3.5- to 4.5-star movies for me.

jaymc, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:28 (four weeks ago) link

This may be the first time I've seen every film by nomination day

I know I've done that in the past, but this year I just can't seem to get over the hump to watch Poor Things

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:29 (four weeks ago) link

i've yet to see a few of them. probably right now it's a close one between KOTFM and TZOI. the latter was for me a very tough one, those kinds of films are increasingly difficult viewings.

omar little, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:29 (four weeks ago) link

In what order is your list, jaymc?

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:29 (four weeks ago) link

Best to worst

jaymc, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:32 (four weeks ago) link

The Holdovers best
Maestro worst

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:34 (four weeks ago) link

Looking at the list again, I see I underrated Past Lives. I prefer it to Zone.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:35 (four weeks ago) link

Past Lives struck me as slight when I saw it, but it's stayed with me.

jaymc, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:37 (four weeks ago) link

Same. A few friends saw it over the holiday break and reminded me of its subtler pleasures.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:40 (four weeks ago) link

1. Poor Things
2. Past Lives
3. Oppenheimer
4. Killers of the Flower Moon
5. Anatomy of a Fall
6. Zone of Interest
7. The Holdovers

All 4 to 4.5 stars imo, gonna try to see American Fiction soon

The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:44 (four weeks ago) link

"Slight" is a good word, as I wanted to love Past Lives, but regrettably found its writing lacking. For a film with basically only 3 characters, they are all remarkably thin -- could you give three adjectives to describe each? I doubt I could. I desperately wanted to see them (her) outside of these relationships: in class, working, etc. It seemed like the writer started with the concept and worked backwards from there -- and to literally hit you over the head with it in the final piece of dialogue was too much.

Acting was very good though, as was the cinematography and pacing, which reminded me of another recent film I liked quite a bit more, Aftersun.

Indexed, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:49 (four weeks ago) link

one of the funniest things that happens in any of these films is the reveal in past lives that the husband's hit novel is called boner

ivy., Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:52 (four weeks ago) link

I liked Anatomy of a Fall and Past Lives. I really liked The Zone of Interest.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:57 (four weeks ago) link

Teo Yoo was the only one of that acting trio I lament not making it to his category's final five

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 18:16 (four weeks ago) link

I need to see Glazer's film, but for now it's easily Scorsese's for me.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 18:31 (four weeks ago) link

Yeah, Zone is the other one (aside from Poor Things) i still have to catch up with. Current ranking:

Anatomy of a Fall
The Holdovers
Barbie
Killers of the Flower Moon
Past Lives
American Fiction
Oppenheimer
Maestro

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 20:07 (four weeks ago) link

I've seen all but two -- possibly a new record for me. My ranking:

Killers
Oppenheimer
Anatomy
Zone

Past Lives
Holdovers

Barbie
Poor Things

Chris L, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 20:40 (four weeks ago) link

re: my Past Lives post last week, I agree with this take

https://x.com/misterminsoo/status/1751670472771530851
https://x.com/misterminsoo/status/1751674428050559028

Indexed, Monday, 29 January 2024 16:48 (three weeks ago) link

Not entirely wrong. I responded:

I like it slightly better than you b/c I respected its director's attempt to handle silence and the unspoken. But it's nowhere near my top 20.

— Moderna Love Gets Me to the Church on Time (@SotoAlfred) January 28, 2024

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 January 2024 16:50 (three weeks ago) link

Poor Things joins a number of other Nat'l Society best film picks that feel very much the result of a deadlock between the old guard and vanguard punks, likely pleasing no one all too much

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Monday, 29 January 2024 16:52 (three weeks ago) link

LOL oops, meant Past Lives

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Monday, 29 January 2024 16:52 (three weeks ago) link

However, to insult the audience is uncharacteristically Josh.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 January 2024 16:57 (three weeks ago) link

people on the internet love doing that

ivy., Monday, 29 January 2024 17:36 (three weeks ago) link

There is an article by Mick La Salle in the SF Chronicle about how to predict the best actress winner that I thought was interesting.

He has staked out an idea that best actor/actress roles either represent an apotheosis, namely inward performances that draw their power from who the actors are as people - or chameleonic performances, where the actors are in disguise as someone else. I like that idea

He thinks that chameleonic performances almost always go on to win the academy award

Dan S, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 00:17 (three weeks ago) link

“Bening is certainly different from her usual manner in “Nyad,” but it’s arguable whether she’s different enough. Put her as a maybe.”

“Sandra Huller, the fantastic German actress who stars in “Anatomy of a Fall,”…doesn’t transform. She’s just like Sandra Huller in everything, which is absolutely great as far as I’m concerned but will not win an Oscar.”

“I see “Maestro” as the apotheosis of a certain kind of Carey Mulligan role….but she’s probably out of the running” (I would have added that it is also because it is a terrible movie)

Dan S, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 00:19 (three weeks ago) link

He narrows it down to Lily Gladstone and Emma Stone. One performance is an apotheosis and one is chameleonic

He concludes that “Emma Stone is entirely chameleonic in “Poor Things.” Her labored performance shows us a side of her that we’ve never seen before — namely, the side that can’t act, but the academy won’t mind that. They’ll be impressed.”

He predicts that Emma Stone will win, with Lily Gladstone a close second. I haven’t seen “Poor Things” yet so don’t want to dismiss it, but I hope Lily Gladstone wins.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/entertainment/article/oscars-best-actress-prediction-18628570.php

If any of you haven’t seen Kelly Reichardt’s “Certain Women”, it is an interesting film and she is great in it

Dan S, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 00:22 (three weeks ago) link

(great in a very quiet way)

Dan S, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 00:23 (three weeks ago) link

Yes, she's great in it. And Emma Stone will win her second Oscar b/c the voters consist of mostly older male voters who love this kind of performance.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 00:29 (three weeks ago) link

went with my gut and voted holdovers

kissinger on my list (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:07 (three weeks ago) link

killers and poor things tied for second

kissinger on my list (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:07 (three weeks ago) link

maybe should've waited until seeing anatomy of a fall, that one feels very up my street

kissinger on my list (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:08 (three weeks ago) link

There is so long even still before the Oscars actually happen that I think whatever juice there was in Gladstone’s campaign will have long ago evaporated. Clearing the way for Emma Stone to somehow have as many lead acting Oscars as Meryl Streep and Jane Fonda.

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 02:33 (three weeks ago) link

and Hillary Swank

jaymc, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 03:03 (three weeks ago) link

and Luise Rainer

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 03:12 (three weeks ago) link

I was surprised by how much I liked "American Fiction." It was a lot more low-key than I expected.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 19:23 (three weeks ago) link

Seeing it tonight!

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 19:28 (three weeks ago) link

Ooooooh, that was GOOD.

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 1 February 2024 02:20 (two weeks ago) link

I've actually been thinking about it a lot. There's a lot of clever stuff going on, imo.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2024 02:21 (two weeks ago) link

Not a fan but I don't begrudge Jeffrey Wright the Oscar nom.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 February 2024 02:52 (two weeks ago) link

I feel he's been ill-served by his various oft-egghead roles, but this suited him well.

I thought this movie had a lot to say about who gets to tell their story and how. I found it intriguing that the central drama - and it is largely a drama, interrupted by the occasional broader satiric beat - not only depicts a relatively under-represented on-screen group (upper middle class Black family) but simultaneously riffs on broken family tropes through that prism (as opposed to the broken family street cliches Monk abhors). And I thought it clever that a lot of said family drama stuff also happens to be the cliche purview of so many run of the mill (white) indie dramas. The parent with Alzheimer's, the family member coming out, the struggling novelist, etc., all of which I could imagine the subject of movies starring Paul Giamatti, the kinds of prestige movies that get awards instead of box office, which plays into the film's sort of central conflict. Not sure how much of that was intentionally, but given the chaotic/cynical nesting doll aspect of the conclusion ... maybe!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2024 03:50 (two weeks ago) link

I don’t know about Oppenheimer, it seems like an embiggened version of The Imitation Game and The Theory of Everything, aka a middlebrow biopic movie about a genius scientist, but with famous actors in cameo roles. I think it is slightly better than those, but is it a Best Picture? It probably is according to the academy

Dan S, Friday, 2 February 2024 00:42 (two weeks ago) link

Sidebar:

The Board of Governors of the AMPAS announced a new competitive Oscar category for best achievement in casting, for films released in 2025, beginning at the 98th ceremony in 2026. https://t.co/G36WifGSzP pic.twitter.com/9mWDDXth1L

— Variety (@Variety) February 8, 2024

Rich E. (Eric H.), Thursday, 8 February 2024 18:32 (one week ago) link

And this year's non-Barbie controversy du année, the fact that there aren't enough American celebrity documentaries nominated for documentary feature:

https://slate.com/culture/2024/02/oscar-nominations-2024-best-documentary-michael-j-fox.html

Rich E. (Eric H.), Thursday, 8 February 2024 18:38 (one week ago) link

still catching up watching these but i loved the holdovers so much

flopson, Thursday, 8 February 2024 19:12 (one week ago) link

Whoa @ the best casting announcement.

jaymc, Thursday, 8 February 2024 19:16 (one week ago) link

of the ones I’ve seen, best to worst. I at least like all of them

killers

poor things
anatomy of a fall

barbie
oppenheimer

― truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Tuesday, January 23, 2024 12:18 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

saw the holdovers earlier this week, a sweet movie but bottom tier for me of these

truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Thursday, 8 February 2024 19:17 (one week ago) link

Funny how all the comments on that announcement are mad Oscars don't have an award for best stunts

symsymsym, Friday, 9 February 2024 01:26 (one week ago) link

This “give stunts an Oscar” movement is unwell and will never go away

Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 9 February 2024 01:28 (one week ago) link

I have been blissfully unaware of it until today

symsymsym, Friday, 9 February 2024 03:44 (one week ago) link

Yes, we need 257 different awards for the same performances each year but one for stunts is just ridiculous.

Chris L, Friday, 9 February 2024 11:44 (one week ago) link

There are awards for stunts too, just sayin'

Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 9 February 2024 14:42 (one week ago) link

SAG has a stunt ensemble category

jaymc, Friday, 9 February 2024 15:04 (one week ago) link

I set up a quiz for my Zoom trivia group on quotes from Best Picture winners. For me, easy as could be, but none of the six groups did better than 1.5/10. (Half-mark for the first question if you answer...you'll figure it out.) I removed the decade clues.

Quiz: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1AEcuixP0H4_vRBBciKaYT2St4n9uOMZPjV_1avTvedY/edit?usp=sharing

Answers: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1WHkAs75SHO6l_POdK1Kjh91G7NIUns8qSeShwxaU4CQ/edit?usp=sharing

clemenza, Friday, 9 February 2024 15:11 (one week ago) link

The Zone of Interest
The Holdovers*
Killers of the Flower Moon
Anatomy of a Fall
Poor Things
American Fiction
Past Lives
Barbie
Oppenheimer

*i saw it alone, with low expectations, a few days before xmas, and i smuggled one very large can of beer into the theater. so my having had the perfect viewing experience for this movie def influenced my rating of it

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 9 February 2024 15:22 (one week ago) link

"Best stunt" is probably a good idea for an award? It gives you a fun clip to play during the awards, it's something most people actually somewhat seem to understand (unlike something like "best editing") and it probably will give some nominations to some box office successful movies.

silverfish, Friday, 9 February 2024 17:21 (one week ago) link

I'm saying it's a good idea from the Oscars standpoint, I personally don't really care

silverfish, Friday, 9 February 2024 17:23 (one week ago) link

The Holdovers' trailer just seemed to go to such lengths to convince me that there's nothing to surprise me in the film. It'd be rude not to take it at its word!

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 9 February 2024 20:08 (one week ago) link

I love Anatomy Of A Fall. I heard the Bacao and Steel Band version of "P.I.M.P." somewhere else recently. In a TV series, I think. I wish I could remember where. Hearing it caused my heart rate to immediately get elevated, stressful association with that song!

a hyperlink to the past (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 9 February 2024 20:17 (one week ago) link

https://www.indiewire.com/awards/consider-this/2024-oscars-the-zone-of-interest-chances-1234951371/

This isn't the first time this week I've seen people saying it's Zone of Interest that's the stealth candidate to upset Oppenheimer. I mega doubt it, but hey, whatever keeps things interesting for (checks calendar) another entire month of this.

Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 9 February 2024 20:21 (one week ago) link

I don't know about that, but Sandra Hüller's performance in Anatomy of a Fall was so so great

Dan S, Monday, 12 February 2024 02:06 (one week ago) link


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