What Can't You Find On The Internet?

Looking for some evidence that back in the 70s, ICI developed a soft drinks packaging which kept the drink cold. IIRC it was tube shaped and had a plastic seal at the top.

― Dan Worsley, Monday, August 28, 2017 5:05 PM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Still looking.

does this help?

maybe not 100% ICI *exactly* but

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMI_plc : "The company, by then known as Nobel Explosives, was one of the four businesses that merged in 1927 to create Imperial Chemical Industries."

"an unofficial history of Kynoch works" (lined on that Wikipedia page) -> http://www.staffshomeguard.co.uk/KOtherInformationKynochV2B.htm

- 1969 A 51% stake is acquired in Paxman Cooler Manufacturing Co. of Brighouse (beverage cooling and dispensing).
- 1990 MK Refrigeration Group (drinks cooling equipment and optics) is acquired
- 1997 also mentions beer coolers
- 2010 as well

+ 1979 as well: A new group is formed, IMI Drinks Dispense, comprising Paxman and Redditch Controls and a new company is established with Cornelius, USA.

(just look for "cool" and "drinks" on that page :-) )

Thanks, Stan. Some good info there, but not any further forward.

My Dad worked for ICI in the UK during the late seventies, I'll ask him if he knows anything about that.

A recording of a quiz where a guy correctly identifies Bob Marley tunes from their intro drum rolls?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KkoLsuWYsY

gotcha

ah cool, I went looking for it too, cause yes, I remembered, and even though I was pretty sure the guy was either Danish or Norwegian, I wasn’t able to find it.

Three boring examples. Both aviation-related because that's what I writing at the moment. I was reading about the post-war Malaysian Emergency, and the headline in this newspaper caught my eye:
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=_HYoAAAAIBAJ&lpg=PA1&dq=malaya%20army%20burned%20village&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q=malaya%20army%20burned%20village&f=false

"BRITISH WILL BURN VILLAGE IN MALAYA - British authorities will put the torch to an entire village in Southern Selangor State in Malaya in order to wipe out what they say is a "wasps' nest" of Communist terrorists. ... Already all the 1,500 inhabitants of Jenderam have been moved out of the village and place in a detention camp at Kluang, in Johore State, just north of Singapore. ... The authorities moved out all cattle and personal properties of Malays, Indonesians and Chinese in the village. These were sold at public auction and the money turned over to the owners."

It's not the kind of headline you see nowadays. It almost give the impression that we were the bad guys! I remember wondering what happened to the place, and if it still exists. Google Maps shows a road with some houses called Jenderam in that state, but who knows. Beyond that newspaper article the internet is completely silent on the destruction of Jenderam and the 1,500 people who called it home. Presumably it wasn't an unusual occurrence at the time. I imagine the same of true of countless small villages and towns destroyed during the Second World War that are now just a few stones next to a crossroads.

The second example I can't even remember myself, so I don't expect the internet to remember it. I remember reading about an incident in which a civilian airliner was shot down in Malaysia, with some of the survivors murdered on the ground, and in retaliation the British army burned down another local village. Again the only trace of this was a contemporary newspaper scan, the tenor of which was that it was just one of those things. And yet after going the Aviation Safety database's list of crashes in Malaysia during the Emergency I can't find any civilian losses. But I have a vivid memory of seeing a scratchy, badly-scanned news article. I realise two similar incidents happened in Rhodesia many years later, but it wasn't either of them.

The third? At the end of the Second World War there was a brief wave of airliners that were converted from war-surplus bombers. Really bad airliners, because bombers aren't the right shape. The Avro Lancastrian was based on the Lancaster, and it had a terrible safety record, with about one-third of the total production lost in accidents:
https://aviation-safety.net/database/types/Avro-691-Lancastrian/losses

It carried nine passengers and four crew, but right at the end of the list, in 1960, there's an Argentine Air Force Lancastrian that crashed with 31 fatalities. Three times as many as any other Lancastrian. Why the discrepancy? Was it carrying paratroops, or was it being used as an overloaded military transport? It seems to be impossible to tell. It's an obscure crash from long ago, sourced from an Argentine newspaper, and it tends to be overshadowed by the crash of Star Dust, the wreckage of which was discovered a few years ago.

In general this kind of thing doesn't leave much on the internet. Air crashes from long ago, sourced to a newspaper. Especially in the days when air travel was risky. The recent shoot-down and disappearance of a pair of Malaysian Airways airliners also obscures the picture.

The recency bias on these search engines has an effect of just erasing anything older than like 10 years ago, it’s fucked up

@écorché: I did find 'Pancake Day' in this nice 'n odd mix. It starts around 47m23 in the mp3 here

― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 16:02 (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Very late to this but thank you! Still up too, which is impressive as the last update to that page was 2013.

i can't find the fucking gun violence thread to report school shootings. i am shaken up. one just happened a block away, i was outside when it happened, i heard all the shots, both the initial and all the police shooting the person at the end (i assume). i'm just trying to report in that i'm ok, in case anyone knows i live right there

oh my god
Karl that must be terrifying!

heres the one

Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

glad you're okay!!!!

it wasn't fun. :(

i have to say, the police response was incredibly fast. i heard the shots on my walk, about 3 minutes away from my home, and as i rushed home there were already a dozen police cars racing toward the school. i got inside and let my neighbors know, and then dozens of more gunshots, and it was over. the suspect is in custody, apparently, and the situation is now "safe" (although all the kids are being evacuated to another HS down the street, the Schnucks, a diner).

jfc. it was really such a beautiful day, with the leaves and everything. i hate this fucking world

nobody was hurt??

at least 6 in the hospital. details aren't out yet, who is dead, who is alive, who is student, staff, or the shooter

Jesus christ

Oh Karl, that's so horrifying. Hoping the best for all the survivors, and for you.

a picture of a ford fiesta that looks like i remember a ford fiesta looking

Intrigued!

I roughly think of this:

https://i.imgur.com/4KeFKYZ.jpg

How does your memory of it differ?

the picture accompanying today's 'we're gonna stop making the fiesta' looked like some futuristic jelly mould thing, so i did an image search and got 3 pages of just those and nothing like alba's picture (first hit was on the 18th row of pictures).

https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/news/168007/ford-fiesta-st-performance-edition-limited-to-600-uk-drivers

Oh yes, I searched for ford fiesta 1982 or something.

norm from cheers was often seen at grunge gigs. but i can't find any proof of this on the internet (something about minutement and ilm itself turns up the husker du factoid but...)

also, wednesday addams' middle name (which i'm sure is thursday but, again, no hits)

i think i might need a new search engine

A clip of Garrett Morris saying "beisbol has been berry, berry good to me"

Wednesday Friday Addams is a fictional character created by American cartoonist Charles Addams, the only daughter in The Addams Family

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wednesday_Addams

wiki-what-now?

(ha, i searched for thursday there... found nothing)

What level of evidence for Norm at grunge gigs do you need? I can't find photos or him talking about it but someone here mentions passing him a joint at a Nirvana gig:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TedLasso/comments/p8wmal/anyone_catch_this_little_easter_egg_jason/

Couple of recent Mudhoney reports:

I saw George Wendt at a @_Mudhoney show last year.

— Matthew (matt) Manson (@marxlennon) December 16, 2020

I saw George Wendt at a @mudhoney / Flesh Eaters show at the Echoplex in LA sitting on a bench and drinking a beer.

— Mark Cappelletty (@MarkCappelletty) October 27, 2021

wow, that recent? i think i remember an nme interview with him in the 90s that mentioned it

(don't really need any more proof other than someone telling me i didnt imagine it tbh)

not grunge, but Wendt is in the Replacements doc, Color Me Obsessed. also showed up in a Soul Asylum video.

I remember seeing an interview with Wendt on UK tv back in the 90s where he mentioned liking Wayne Kramer.

not grunge, but Wendt also showed up in a Ray Parker Jr. video.

A clip of Garrett Morris saying "beisbol has been berry, berry good to me"

Is it in here somewhere?

Bill Murray reports for SNL from the 1979 New York Mets' spring training camp in the first of three reports on the baseball comeback of Chico Escuela, April 7, 1979. pic.twitter.com/J0z4MoLqiv

— New York Mammoths (@NYMammoths) December 9, 2021

incredible! thank you!

not grunge, but Wendt also showed up in a Ray Parker Jr. video

If there's somethin' plaid, and it don't look bad,

Who ya gonna call... MUD!HONEY!

If ya feel depressed, and your life's a mess,

Who can ya call... SOUND!GARDEN!

A way to watch this movie (stream, rent, download, buy) online without ordering a DVD from France.

Destins (1946)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139152/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

From a 20-years-old post on the Associates thread:

i still have that "the 80s" thing that the late show did (3 hours on new years eve 1989) which was a fun retrospective of 80s music.

Radio Times listing

what's that one album that has the liner notes (or back cover?) that is packed with a bunch of really cool/influential/relatively little known punk/experimental recordings? there's a thread on it, but i can't recall which band recorded the album.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nurse_with_Wound_list ?

yes! thank you adam!

beware of the freaky euro prog lurking in that list, harsh a mellow fast ime

Does anyone have Hunter Age 3

it has been found ty

there's a specific awkward ESL instructional video shot in Korea that got excerpted into short clips so that the ESL aspect and setting wasn't apparent, so it was just American ex-pat kids behaving like they're in a David Lynch movie, but I can't recall any scenarios that would make it easily searchable.

but awkward ESL instructional videos are also a genre that's hard to search for lately -- this appears way down a list of search results:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaKgwx6gZXc

an oldish video on youtube about the processes that take place in the UK in the event of a nuclear attack - letters of last resort, government bunkers, the processes designed to enable ongoing government etc.

actually maybe it was this but put on youtube

The Human Button

Tuesday 2 December 2008 20:00-20:40 (Radio 4 FM)

Repeated: Sunday 7 December 2008 17:00-17:40 (Radio 4 FM)


Historian Prof Peter Hennessy speaks to the people who have operated Britain's nuclear deterrent over the years and today, including military commanders, politicians and former Vulcan bomber crew members. He visits Northwood, the headquarters from which the order to fire would come today, and Corsham, the secret nuclear bunker which, in the 1960s, would have been the location for an alternative government in the event of all-out war.

and lo, i find it. that was a rollercoaster ride. as you were

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNV1q82OZ58

(genuinely periodically but fruitlessly been trying to find this on and off for a few years now, maybe coming to ilxor unblocked it for me)

so here's what bugging me today. vanishingly little from the 1973 "doraemon" series circulates online. one of the only clips existing is a scene from a japanese pink film where the episode "love love this camera" is playing in the background. the clip is pretty well-circulated, but what i haven't been able to find is the _name_ of the pink film in question. i'm not super interested in pink films, i just think the idea of a pink film that people are primarily interested in because there's an eight-second clip of doraemon playing in the background is fucking _hilarious_.

A quick search found me this:

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt2364356

Features
Doraemon (TV Series 1973)
A clip of the anime was shown on a TV