ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

actually i didn't realize it was "screwball," since i associate that genre with, like, Pauly Shore. heh.

oh god, my grammar... i'll be going to bed now

Well done everyone and thanks to the runner(s). It's been an education, but also happy to see some of my very basic faves proven by science to be objectively the greatest.

If any of you are near the DC area and want to see POSSESSION in the theater, it’s at the AFI Silver this weekend. Should be some experience.

― Chris L, Friday, November 5, 2021 6:00 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Considering whether or not to see that tonight (I'll be at AFI for a Chaplin program). I saw it previously on TCM, but a restored print on a big screen....I lived in pre-reunification West Berlin for a while as a child; my memories are vague but this movie definitely stirred them.

7. The High Sign (1921)
Nice!

― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, November 4, 2021 11:24 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Few things are quite as pleasurable and concise as a well-made two-reel comedy. AFI's Silent Cinema Showcase includes several programs of shorts. (Sadly, the Keaton program does not include The High Sign.)

love all those pre-code Barbara Stanwyck movies from j.lu's list: The Miracle Woman, Baby Face, Night Nurse

Night Nurse gave me such a jolt when I saw it in a pre-code festival, it's so in-your-face and Stanwyck is incredible. At once it cured me of any prejudice against early sound era films.

"You mutha."

Lol night nurse is so funny because they spend the whole movie hanging around a practically abandoned a+e ward in Manhattan at night with a couple of patients in bare spacious rooms

And the plot repeatedly finds occasions for Stanwyck and Blondell to just happen to strip down to their underwear.

My middlebrow list:

1. Conversation, The Coppola, Francis Ford 1974
2. Do the Right Thing Lee, Spike 1989
3. Stop Making Sense Demme, Jonathan 1984
4. Dog Day Afternoon Lumet, Sidney 1975
5. Margaret Lonergan, Kenneth 2011
6. Master, The Anderson, Paul Thomas 2012
7. Duck Soup McCarey, Leo 1933
8. Children of Men Cuarón, Alfonso 2006
9. King of Comedy, The Scorsese, Martin 1983
10. Fearless Weir, Peter 1993
12. Mulholland Dr. Lynch, David 2001
13. On the Waterfront Kazan, Elia 1954
14. Big Lebowski, The Coen, Joel & Ethan Coen 1998
15. Groundhog Day Ramis, Harold 1993
16. Grizzly Man Herzog, Werner 2005
17. Philadelphia Story, The Cukor, George 1940
18. Back to the Future Zemeckis, Robert 1985
19. Triplets of Belleville, The Chomet, Sylvain 2003
20. Taste of Cherry Kiarostami, Abbas 1997
21. Red Shoes, The Powell, Michael/Emeric Pressburger 1948
22. Adaptation Jonze, Spike 2002
23. Barton Fink Coen, Joel & Ethan Coen 1991
24. Apartment, The Wilder, Billy 1960
25. Shining, The Kubrick, Stanley 1980

UNRANKED 100 HONORABLE MENTIONS

Airplane! Abrahams, Jim/David Zucker/Jerry Zucker 1980
Boogie Nights Anderson, Paul Thomas 1997
Silence of the Lambs, The Demme, Jonathan 1991
Blue Velvet Lynch, David 1986
Election Payne, Alexander 1999
E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial Spielberg, Steven 1982
Close Encounters of the Third Kind Spielberg, Steven 1977
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb Kubrick, Stanley 1964
George Washington Green, David Gordon 2000
Hudsucker Proxy, The Coen, Joel & Ethan Coen 1994
Jackie Brown Tarantino, Quentin 1997
Inside Out Docter, Pete 2015
Super Troopers Chandrasekhar, Jay 2001
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest Forman, Milos 1975
12 Years a Slave McQueen, Steve 2013
2001: A Space Odyssey Kubrick, Stanley 1968
400 Blows, The Truffaut, François 1959
Amélie Jeunet, Jean-Pierre 2001
Annie Hall Allen, Woody 1977
Apocalypse Now Coppola, Francis Ford 1979
Being John Malkovich (Jonze 99)
Being There Ashby, Hal 1979
Best In Show - Guest, Christopher (2000)
Bicycle Thieves De Sica, Vittorio 1948
Birds, The Hitchcock, Alfred 1963
Blood Simple Coen, Joel & Ethan Coen 1984
Blow-Up Antonioni, Michelangelo 1966
Breaking the Waves von Trier, Lars 1996
Bringing Up Baby Hawks, Howard 1938
Capturing The Friedmans (Jarecki 03)
City Lights Chaplin, Charles 1931
City of God Meirelles, Fernando & Kátia Lund 2002
Crumb Zwigoff, Terry 1994
Dancer in the Dark von Trier, Lars 2000
Dazed and Confused Linklater, Richard 1993
Diving Bell and the Butterfly, The Schnabel, Julian 2007
Edward Scissorhands Burton, Tim 1990
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Gondry, Michel 2004
Godfather, The Coppola, Francis Ford 1972
His Girl Friday Hawks, Howard 1940
Hoop Dreams James, Steve 1994
It Happened One Night Capra, Frank 1934
Jerk, The (Reiner 1979)
Jurassic Park Spielberg, Steven 1993
Koyaanisqatsi Reggio, Godfrey 1982
Last Picture Show, The Bogdanovich, Peter 1971
Marriage Story (Baumbach 2019)
McCabe & Mrs. Miller Altman, Robert 1971
Memento Nolan, Christopher 2000
Midnight Cowboy Schlesinger, John 1969
Miller's Crossing Coen, Joel & Ethan Coen 1990
Modern Times Chaplin, Charles 1936
Moonstruck (Jewison, 1987)
Mr. Hulot's Holiday Tati, Jacques 1953
Network Lumet, Sidney 1976
Nights of Cabiria Fellini, Federico 1957
North by Northwest Hitchcock, Alfred 1959
Out Of Sight (Soderbergh 1998)
Parasite (Bong, 2019)
Princess Bride, The Reiner, Rob 1987
Psycho Hitchcock, Alfred 1960
Punch-Drunk Love Anderson, Paul Thomas 2002
Raging Bull Scorsese, Martin 1980
Raising Arizona Coen, Joel & Ethan Coen 1987
Rear Window Hitchcock, Alfred 1954
Red Balloon, The Lamorisse, Albert 1956
Rosemary's Baby Polanski, Roman 1968
Rushmore Anderson, Wes 1998
Secrets & Lies Leigh, Mike 1996
Serious Man, A Coen, Joel & Ethan 2009
Shadow of a Doubt Hitchcock, Alfred 1943
Sherman's March McElwee, Ross 1985
Son, The Dardenne, Jean-Pierre & Luc Dardenne 2002
Sound of Music, The Wise, Robert 1965
Spirited Away Miyazaki, Hayao 2001
Strada, La Fellini, Federico 1954
Stranger Than Paradise Jarmusch, Jim 1984
Sullivan's Travels Sturges, Preston 1941
Superbad (Mottola 07)
Swingers (Liman 1996)
Synecdoche, New York Kaufman, Charlie 2008
Talk to Her Almodóvar, Pedro 2002
Taxi Driver Scorsese, Martin 1976
There Will Be Blood Anderson, Paul Thomas 2007
Thing, The Carpenter, John 1982
Third Man, The Reed, Carol 1949
Tootsie Pollack, Sydney 1982
Touch of Evil Welles, Orson 1958
Tree of Life, The Malick, Terrence 2011
Truman Show, The (Weir, 1998)
Under The Skin Glazer, Jonathan 2014
Upstream Color Carruth, Shane 2013
Vertigo Hitchcock, Alfred 1958
Waking Life (Linklater, 2001)
WALL-E Stanton, Andrew 2008
Wayne's World (Spheeris, 1992)
Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? Nichols, Mike 1966
Witness (Weir, 1985)
You Can Count On Me (2000)
Young Frankenstein Brooks, Mel 1974

i think the biggest surprise for me is the relative lack of Wiseman. i didnt pay attention to the nominations process, did he get excluded as 'TV', or is he just way less popular on ILX than i assumed?

big vote splitting? hard to think of him having a 'key' film most fans would vote for

Doesn't help that you can't see his movies unless you use Kanopy or torrent them or blind-buy a DVD for $40.

I checked the spreadsheet: 7 different films were nominated (I voted for Welfare). Titicut Follies is on the TSPDT list, and for me, that's not nearly as good as some of his later films.

In Jackson Heights is, I think, well, the height.

agreed

i probably would have voted for high school, but woulda been a coinflip btw that & jackson hts

ive been watching hollis films this year and i might have put nostalgia on my ranked list if i were to submit now

― plax (ico), Friday, 5 November 2021 bookmarkflaglink

He's made lots that I love. Not that it would've mattered to the outcome lol but I should put a lot more experimental film.

Some juicy individual ballots to takes notes from and obv more of the Morbs canon to dive into.

here's my juicy ballot:

Images Of The World And Inscriptions Of War - Farocki 1989
Bush Mama - Gerima 1979
Johnny Guitar Ray, Nicholas 1954
Psycho Hitchcock, Alfred 1960
How To Live In The GDR - Farocki 1990
Chronicle of Anna Magdalena Bach, The Straub, Jean-Marie 1968
Citizen Kane Welles, Orson 1941
Reckless Moment, The Ophüls, Max 1949
Muriel Resnais, Alain 1963
Beau travail Denis, Claire 1999
I-Be Area (Trecartin, 2007)
In a Lonely Place Ray, Nicholas 1950
One day Pina asked me – Akerman 1983
Rosemary's Baby Polanski, Roman 1968
Halfmoon Files - Scheffner 2007
Trouble in Paradise Lubitsch, Ernst 1932
Three Women – Altman 1977
Close-Up Kiarostami, Abbas 1990
High School II – Wiseman 1994
London Keiller, Patrick 1994
Opening Night Cassavetes, John 1977
Night of the Hunter, The Laughton, Charles 1955
Ten Kiarostami, Abbas 2002
Cabaret Fosse, Bob 1972
Videograms Of A Revolution - Farocki 1992

Piano Teacher, The Haneke, Michael 2001
Fig Trees - Greyson 2009
West Side Story Wise, Robert/Jerome Robbins 1961
Est, D' Akerman, Chantal 1993
No Home Movie Akerman, Chantal 2015
Chronicle of a Summer Rouch, Jean & Edgar Morin 1961
Zero Patience - Greyson 1993
In the Mood for Love Wong Kar-wai 2000
Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown Almodóvar, Pedro 1988
All About My Mother Almodóvar, Pedro 1999
Tongues Untied (Riggs, 1989)
Tout va bien – Godard 1972
Midnight – Leisen 1939
Come Back to the 5 & Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean – Altman 1982
Sweet Charity – Fosse 1969
Vanya on 42nd st – Malle 1994
Katzelmacher – Fassbinder 1969
Long Goodbye, The Altman, Robert 1973
Female Trouble Waters, John 1974
Hitler: A Film from Germany Syberberg, Hans-Jürgen 1977
Vertigo Hitchcock, Alfred 1958
India Song Duras, Marguerite 1975
City Girl - Murnau 1930
Love Streams Cassavetes, John 1984
Wanda Loden, Barbara 1970
Battle of Algiers, The Pontecorvo, Gillo 1966
Fox And His Friends Fassbinder, Rainer Werner 1975
Happy Together Wong Kar-wai 1997
Paris Is Burning Livingston, Jennie 1990
Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant, The Fassbinder, Rainer Werner 1972
la ceremonie – chabrol 1995
Avventura, L' Antonioni, Michelangelo 1960
Safe Haynes, Todd 1995
How To Live In The GDR - Farocki 1990
Sans soleil Marker, Chris 1983
Inland Empire Lynch, David 2006
Nightcleaners – Berwick Film Collective 1972-5
Peeping Tom Powell, Michael 1960
Russian Ark Sokurov, Aleksandr 2002
Stromboli – Rossellini 1950
His Girl Friday Hawks, Howard 1940
Headless Woman, The Martel, Lucrecia 2008
Nostalgia Frampton, Hollis 1971
Sauve qui peut (la vie) Godard, Jean-Luc 1980
Jetée, La Marker, Chris 1962
Family Finds Entertainment, A (Trecartin, 2004)
Hour of the Furnaces, The Getino, Octavio & Fernando E. Solanas 1968

The Hour of the Furnaces and Bush Mama! Juicy!!

Seen a lot of it. The one person I haven't explored is Farocki.

I saw Wanda for the first time last week. Now that’s a movie!

I didn't vote for Wanda but it'd be a strong entry here for sure.

I love Wiseman but I didn’t even have any in my long list due to being paralyzed by choice and doubting that any single film of his would get enough support to make it.

i put high school ii in but tbh i could have picked state legislature, ex libris, the store, etc

lol whats the one with the sexy monks, that one

Essene!

I always want to hear someone else's thoughts on Welfare; I'm never sure if people haven't seen it or just don't think as highly of it as I do. Neither of its two most memorable sequences are on on YouTube.

I've only seen maybe half of his films so far (I started with some of the newer ones and then went back to the beginning to watch them in order), but I think Welfare is one of his best

I like all his later films that I've seen (I posted months ago about making a concerted effort to catch up with Monrovia and City Hall; of course, I haven't), but the tone is almost autumnal--understandable at his age--and they're often focused on the battle for funding, so there are lots of meetings and strategizing. They're all good to great. There's an urgency in Welfare, though--all these people at the edge of exhaustion as they try to get not just a few dollars but simply an appointment--that is missing in those later films for me.

City Hall I couldn't finish while I lapped up the others.

City Hall was the best movie of 2020.

yeah city hall was excellent

remember wishing that akerman pina doc were longer (and the wim wenders one shorter)

oh god the wenders one jc. its amazing how compact the akerman one is though, it condenses so much into something quite sparse so you get both a real sense of bausch's process and what the performances are like (much closer than the wenders one which just soups them up but never captures what they actually do) alongside a very layered critique, freighted with ambivalence

i saw akerman discussing it in a q&a and she was very very funny particularly talking about the final interview with bausch where she said (paraphrasing wildly) 'oh my god i was just telling her everything about my life my fears my deep emotional wells trying to provoke something, anything and she just sat there, on camera, for hours, smoking that cigarette almost primly, giving me nothing'

Welfare is still on my shelf unwatched, sadly - after seeing Juvenile Court & Public Housing i got worried about ODing on that kind of bureaucratic misery (also not too far from my dayjob), so I've been gun-shy about it. but hearing you guys call it one of his best can probably convince me to get around to it sooner. one of my fave deep cuts from The Lighter Side of Wiseman(tm) is The Store, about a Nieman Marcus in Texas in the early 80s.

The Store is the one I finished most recently

If anyone thinks they might ever refer back to these results, I recommend bookmarking the pertinent posts now before the thread gets too much larger.

I'll add the results to this thread (I had saved all the coding and lost it, so it'll be later today): They Poll Movies, Don't They? The ILX Film-Poll Results Thread

Good carpenter pick from chairman alph

Think I've seen it 20 times on TV, for some reason whenever it's been on I had nothing else to do so watched it.

i saw akerman discussing it in a q&a and she was very very funny particularly talking about the final interview with bausch where she said (paraphrasing wildly) 'oh my god i was just telling her everything about my life my fears my deep emotional wells trying to provoke something, anything and she just sat there, on camera, for hours, smoking that cigarette almost primly, giving me nothing'

― plax (ico), Friday, 5 November 2021 bookmarkflaglink

Was this at the ICA? I was there too!

My tribute to Morbs and the poll here.

yah yah, i think it was one of her final public appearances! she was very charming, funny, talked about the films in a very unpretentious and illuminating way. that ica retro was so amazing, never seen anything like it in london.

Yeah very much a one-off, and yes it was an incredible appearance from Chantal.

Another Gaze were trying to pull something similar with a Marguerite Duras season but I think the pandemic got in the way.

oh i would have gone for that!!!

going over it, every one of the personal lists posted is interesting and includes films I love or want to see

Mulholland Drive (2001)
The Third Man (1949)
Leviathan (2012)
Deep End (1970)
Crumb (1994)
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me (1992)
The Wicker Man (1973)
Black Narcissus (1947)
California Split (1974)
Harlan County USA (1976)
Black Christmas (1974)
Stalker (1979)
Vertigo (1958)
Uncut Gems (2020)
The Witch (2015)
Toni Erdmann (2016)
The Virgin Spring (1960)
Aguirre, the Wrath of God (1972)
Existenz (1999)
Risky Business (1983)
Barry Lyndon (1975)
Under the Skin (2013)
Carrie (1976)
The Green Ray (1986)
Zodiac (2007)

forgot some of my favorites, double indemnity, night of the hunter, a man escaped... oh well. great poll, thanks eric

my normie ballot

Do the Right Thing Lee, Spike 1989
2001: A Space Odyssey Kubrick, Stanley 1968
In the Mood for Love Wong Kar-wai 2000
Empire Strikes Back, The Kershner, Irvin 1980
Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960)
Royal Tenenbaums, The Anderson, Wes 2001
Mulholland Dr. (David Lynch, 2001)
Mad Max: Fury Road Miller, George 2015
Godfather, The Coppola, Francis Ford 1972
Jaws Spielberg, Steven 1975
Die Hard McTiernan, John 1988
Blazing Saddles Brooks, Mel 1974
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb Kubrick, Stanley 1964
Taxi Driver Scorsese, Martin 1976
Toy Story Lasseter, John 1995
Right Stuff, The Kaufman, Philip 1983
Children of Men Cuarón, Alfonso 2006
Monty Python and the Holy Grail Gilliam, Terry/Terry Jones 1975
Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, The Jackson, Peter 2001
Singin' in the Rain Donen, Stanley/Gene Kelly 1952
Chinatown Polanski, Roman 1974
Being John Malkovich (Jonze 99)
This is Spinal Tap Reiner, Rob 1984
Boogie Nights Anderson, Paul Thomas 1997
Z Costa-Gavras, Constantin 1969

unranked

Raiders of the Lost Ark Spielberg, Steven 1981
Miller's Crossing Coen, Joel & Ethan Coen 1990
Third Man, The Reed, Carol 1949
Graduate, The Nichols, Mike 1967
Princess Bride, The Reiner, Rob 1987
12 Angry Men Lumet, Sidney 1957
24 Hour Party People Winterbottom, Michael 2002
Airplane! Abrahams, Jim/David Zucker/Jerry Zucker 1980
Aliens Cameron, James 1986
American Werewolf in London, An (Landis, John) 1981
Annie Hall Allen, Woody 1977
Apocalypse Now Coppola, Francis Ford 1979
Barton Fink Coen, Joel & Ethan Coen 1991
Best In Show - Guest, Christopher (2000)
Big Lebowski, The Coen, Joel & Ethan Coen 1998
Big Trouble in Little China Carpenter, John 1986
Blade Runner Scott, Ridley 1982
Battle of Algiers, The Pontecorvo, Gillo 1966
Blood Simple Coen, Joel & Ethan Coen 1984
Blue Velvet Lynch, David 1986
Blues Brothers, The Landis, John 1980
Brazil Gilliam, Terry 1985
Breakfast Club, The Hughes, John 1985
Casablanca Curtiz, Michael 1942
Citizen Kane Welles, Orson 1941
Clockwork Orange, A Kubrick, Stanley 1971
Dazed and Confused Linklater, Richard 1993
Dog Day Afternoon Lumet, Sidney 1975
E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial Spielberg, Steven 1982
Duck Soup McCarey, Leo 1933
Ed Wood Burton, Tim 1994
Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie, The Buñuel, Luis 1972
Eastern Promises (Cronenberg, 2007)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Gondry, Michel 2004
Fantasia Various Directors 1940
Fargo Coen, Joel & Ethan Coen 1996
Fast Times At Ridgemont High (1982)
Ferris Bueller's Day Off Hughes, John 1986
Fugitive, The (Davis, Andrew) 1993
Galaxy Quest (Parisot, 1999)
Ghostbusters Reitman, Ivan 1984
Godfather: Part II, The Coppola, Francis Ford 1974
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly Leone, Sergio 1966
GoodFellas Scorsese, Martin 1990
Groundhog Day Ramis, Harold 1993
Hard Day's Night, A Lester, Richard 1964
His Girl Friday (Howard Hawks, 1940)
Inglourious Basterds Tarantino, Quentin 2009
Jackie Brown Tarantino, Quentin 1997
Koyaanisqatsi Reggio, Godfrey 1982
Last Waltz, The (Scorsese, 1978)
Lost in America (Albert Brooks, 1985)
Maltese Falcon, The (John Huston, 1941)
Master, The (Anderson 2012)
Matrix, The Wachowski, Lana & Lilly Wachowski 1999
McCabe & Mrs. Miller Altman, Robert 1971
Midsommar (Aster, 2019)
Moonlight (Jenkins, 2016)
Nashville Altman, Robert 1975
Night of the Hunter, The Laughton, Charles 1955
Night at the Opera, A Wood, Sam 1935
North by Northwest Hitchcock, Alfred 1959
Out Of Sight (Soderbergh 1998)
Pan's Labyrinth del Toro, Guillermo 2006
Raging Bull Scorsese, Martin 1980
Raising Arizona Coen, Joel & Ethan Coen 1987
Ran Kurosawa, Akira 1985
Rashomon Kurosawa, Akira 1950
Rocky Avildsen, John G. 1976
Secrets & Lies Leigh, Mike 1996
Separation, A Farhadi, Asghar 2011
Serious Man, A Coen, Joel & Ethan 2009
Shining, The Kubrick, Stanley 1980
Silence of the Lambs, The Demme, Jonathan 1991
Some Like it Hot Wilder, Billy 1959
Star Wars Lucas, George 1977
Sullivan's Travels Sturges, Preston 1941
Terminator 2: Judgment Day Cameron, James 1991
Thing, The Carpenter, John 1982
Total Recall Verhoeven, Paul 1990
Trading Places (Landis, 1983)
Truman Show, The (Weir, 1998)
Vertigo Hitchcock, Alfred 1958
Waking Life (Linklater, 2001)
Up Docter, Pete 2009
Who Framed Roger Rabbit (Zemeckis, 1988)
Wild Bunch, The Peckinpah, Sam 1969
Wizard of Oz, The Fleming, Victor 1939
Wolf Of Wall Street, The (Scorsese, 2013)
Young Frankenstein Brooks, Mel 1974
Producers, The Brooks, Mel 1968
Jerk, The (Reiner 1979)
John Wick Stahelski, Chad 2014
Inside Llewyn Davis (Coens, 2013)
There Will Be Blood Anderson, Paul Thomas 2007
Shaun of the Dead Wright, Edgar 2007

loved Andrey Zvyagintsev's Leviathan from 2014 but still haven't seen the (unrelated) documentary from 2012, which from what I've read is pretty great