funny stuff on this list, days of heaven but not badlands. the lady eve seems to be the main representative of classic screwball ahead of for instance bringing up baby, the philadelphia story, the awful truth (lol fonda instead of grant essentially, very odd)
anyway thanks for the poll eric!
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 November 2021 09:34 (two years ago) link
i love to complain about things so i enjoyed it a lot, two solid thumbs up
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 November 2021 09:35 (two years ago) link
In the lady eve i think its more true that the fonda character isnt as important as it would be for a typical grant tbf
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Friday, 5 November 2021 09:39 (two years ago) link
Only if your life revolves around watching movies. There are many other studies, hobbies, and activities equally worthy of our time as watching films. For example, I watch about 40 films a year, but I read about 50 books a year. The reading takes a good amount of time away from when I could be watching films, because reading a book takes much longer than 2 hours. I do not regret this choice one bit. Films comprise a much more restricted universe than books, which have been around in some form for about 2500 years now and personally I get more out of them.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless)
I do both -- it's not a choice!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 November 2021 09:45 (two years ago) link
No Cary Grant, no credibility.
Surprised there was no Varda (or Demy). Feels much more of a straight dude - Herzog, Scorsese, Kubrick, Tarkovksy, Lynch - list than I had expected from ILx. 2001 winning is like Kid A winning an ILM poll.
― Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 5 November 2021 09:52 (two years ago) link
The Stargate sequence in 2001 has dated worse than most special effects from that era - feels like something you'd see in some psychsploitation film - and make it v difficult to tune in to the film's idea of transcendence imo.
Truly very surprised that Varda didn't make it, thought she'd become the token female director in every list. Also surprised that no Kurosawa made it except for 7 Samurai - and that one quite low on the list!
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 5 November 2021 09:54 (two years ago) link
Thanks Eric for doing this and to everyone else for actively participating. Having only seen 30 out of 100 the to-watch-list is loooong, looking forward to dig in :)
― willem, Friday, 5 November 2021 09:56 (two years ago) link
If any of you are near the DC area and want to see POSSESSION in the theater, it’s at the AFI Silver this weekend. Should be some experience.
― Chris L, Friday, 5 November 2021 10:00 (two years ago) link
no love for Withnail and I
― Chicks and Ducks and Geese better scurry (Ste), Friday, 5 November 2021 10:04 (two years ago) link
Would make my ballot in a comedy list but best of all time I dunno...
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 5 November 2021 10:09 (two years ago) link
fwiw, the Lady Eve is one of my (many, many) discoveries from this poll that i've watched so far, and i adored it. Idk if any the more obvious/canonical screwball comedies are as focus on women's lives, but that focus gave the movie a lot more charm than it would've had if it were driven more by anima instead.
― davey, Friday, 5 November 2021 11:30 (two years ago) link
actually i didn't realize it was "screwball," since i associate that genre with, like, Pauly Shore. heh.
― davey, Friday, 5 November 2021 11:32 (two years ago) link
oh god, my grammar... i'll be going to bed now
― davey, Friday, 5 November 2021 12:11 (two years ago) link
Well done everyone and thanks to the runner(s). It's been an education, but also happy to see some of my very basic faves proven by science to be objectively the greatest.
― Noel Emits, Friday, 5 November 2021 12:28 (two years ago) link
If any of you are near the DC area and want to see POSSESSION in the theater, it’s at the AFI Silver this weekend. Should be some experience.― Chris L, Friday, November 5, 2021 6:00 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Chris L, Friday, November 5, 2021 6:00 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Considering whether or not to see that tonight (I'll be at AFI for a Chaplin program). I saw it previously on TCM, but a restored print on a big screen....I lived in pre-reunification West Berlin for a while as a child; my memories are vague but this movie definitely stirred them.
7. The High Sign (1921)Nice!― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, November 4, 2021 11:24 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, November 4, 2021 11:24 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Few things are quite as pleasurable and concise as a well-made two-reel comedy. AFI's Silent Cinema Showcase includes several programs of shorts. (Sadly, the Keaton program does not include The High Sign.)
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Friday, 5 November 2021 12:35 (two years ago) link
love all those pre-code Barbara Stanwyck movies from j.lu's list: The Miracle Woman, Baby Face, Night Nurse
Night Nurse gave me such a jolt when I saw it in a pre-code festival, it's so in-your-face and Stanwyck is incredible. At once it cured me of any prejudice against early sound era films.
― Josefa, Friday, 5 November 2021 12:54 (two years ago) link
"You mutha."
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 November 2021 12:56 (two years ago) link
Lol night nurse is so funny because they spend the whole movie hanging around a practically abandoned a+e ward in Manhattan at night with a couple of patients in bare spacious rooms
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 November 2021 13:03 (two years ago) link
And the plot repeatedly finds occasions for Stanwyck and Blondell to just happen to strip down to their underwear.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Friday, 5 November 2021 13:09 (two years ago) link
My middlebrow list:
1. Conversation, The Coppola, Francis Ford 19742. Do the Right Thing Lee, Spike 19893. Stop Making Sense Demme, Jonathan 19844. Dog Day Afternoon Lumet, Sidney 19755. Margaret Lonergan, Kenneth 2011 6. Master, The Anderson, Paul Thomas 2012 7. Duck Soup McCarey, Leo 19338. Children of Men Cuarón, Alfonso 20069. King of Comedy, The Scorsese, Martin 198310. Fearless Weir, Peter 1993 12. Mulholland Dr. Lynch, David 200113. On the Waterfront Kazan, Elia 195414. Big Lebowski, The Coen, Joel & Ethan Coen 199815. Groundhog Day Ramis, Harold 199316. Grizzly Man Herzog, Werner 200517. Philadelphia Story, The Cukor, George 194018. Back to the Future Zemeckis, Robert 198519. Triplets of Belleville, The Chomet, Sylvain 200320. Taste of Cherry Kiarostami, Abbas 199721. Red Shoes, The Powell, Michael/Emeric Pressburger 194822. Adaptation Jonze, Spike 200223. Barton Fink Coen, Joel & Ethan Coen 199124. Apartment, The Wilder, Billy 196025. Shining, The Kubrick, Stanley 1980
UNRANKED 100 HONORABLE MENTIONSAirplane! Abrahams, Jim/David Zucker/Jerry Zucker 1980Boogie Nights Anderson, Paul Thomas 1997Silence of the Lambs, The Demme, Jonathan 1991Blue Velvet Lynch, David 1986Election Payne, Alexander 1999E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial Spielberg, Steven 1982Close Encounters of the Third Kind Spielberg, Steven 1977Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb Kubrick, Stanley 1964George Washington Green, David Gordon 2000Hudsucker Proxy, The Coen, Joel & Ethan Coen 1994Jackie Brown Tarantino, Quentin 1997Inside Out Docter, Pete 2015Super Troopers Chandrasekhar, Jay 2001One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest Forman, Milos 197512 Years a Slave McQueen, Steve 20132001: A Space Odyssey Kubrick, Stanley 1968400 Blows, The Truffaut, François 1959Amélie Jeunet, Jean-Pierre 2001Annie Hall Allen, Woody 1977Apocalypse Now Coppola, Francis Ford 1979 Being John Malkovich (Jonze 99) Being There Ashby, Hal 1979Best In Show - Guest, Christopher (2000) Bicycle Thieves De Sica, Vittorio 1948Birds, The Hitchcock, Alfred 1963Blood Simple Coen, Joel & Ethan Coen 1984Blow-Up Antonioni, Michelangelo 1966Breaking the Waves von Trier, Lars 1996Bringing Up Baby Hawks, Howard 1938Capturing The Friedmans (Jarecki 03) City Lights Chaplin, Charles 1931City of God Meirelles, Fernando & Kátia Lund 2002Crumb Zwigoff, Terry 1994Dancer in the Dark von Trier, Lars 2000Dazed and Confused Linklater, Richard 1993Diving Bell and the Butterfly, The Schnabel, Julian 2007Edward Scissorhands Burton, Tim 1990Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Gondry, Michel 2004Godfather, The Coppola, Francis Ford 1972His Girl Friday Hawks, Howard 1940Hoop Dreams James, Steve 1994 It Happened One Night Capra, Frank 1934Jerk, The (Reiner 1979) Jurassic Park Spielberg, Steven 1993Koyaanisqatsi Reggio, Godfrey 1982Last Picture Show, The Bogdanovich, Peter 1971 Marriage Story (Baumbach 2019) McCabe & Mrs. Miller Altman, Robert 1971Memento Nolan, Christopher 2000Midnight Cowboy Schlesinger, John 1969Miller's Crossing Coen, Joel & Ethan Coen 1990Modern Times Chaplin, Charles 1936Moonstruck (Jewison, 1987) Mr. Hulot's Holiday Tati, Jacques 1953Network Lumet, Sidney 1976Nights of Cabiria Fellini, Federico 1957North by Northwest Hitchcock, Alfred 1959Out Of Sight (Soderbergh 1998) Parasite (Bong, 2019) Princess Bride, The Reiner, Rob 1987Psycho Hitchcock, Alfred 1960Punch-Drunk Love Anderson, Paul Thomas 2002Raging Bull Scorsese, Martin 1980Raising Arizona Coen, Joel & Ethan Coen 1987Rear Window Hitchcock, Alfred 1954Red Balloon, The Lamorisse, Albert 1956Rosemary's Baby Polanski, Roman 1968Rushmore Anderson, Wes 1998Secrets & Lies Leigh, Mike 1996Serious Man, A Coen, Joel & Ethan 2009Shadow of a Doubt Hitchcock, Alfred 1943Sherman's March McElwee, Ross 1985 Son, The Dardenne, Jean-Pierre & Luc Dardenne 2002Sound of Music, The Wise, Robert 1965Spirited Away Miyazaki, Hayao 2001Strada, La Fellini, Federico 1954Stranger Than Paradise Jarmusch, Jim 1984Sullivan's Travels Sturges, Preston 1941Superbad (Mottola 07) Swingers (Liman 1996) Synecdoche, New York Kaufman, Charlie 2008Talk to Her Almodóvar, Pedro 2002Taxi Driver Scorsese, Martin 1976There Will Be Blood Anderson, Paul Thomas 2007Thing, The Carpenter, John 1982 Third Man, The Reed, Carol 1949Tootsie Pollack, Sydney 1982Touch of Evil Welles, Orson 1958Tree of Life, The Malick, Terrence 2011Truman Show, The (Weir, 1998) Under The Skin Glazer, Jonathan 2014Upstream Color Carruth, Shane 2013Vertigo Hitchcock, Alfred 1958Waking Life (Linklater, 2001) WALL-E Stanton, Andrew 2008Wayne's World (Spheeris, 1992) Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? Nichols, Mike 1966Witness (Weir, 1985) You Can Count On Me (2000) Young Frankenstein Brooks, Mel 1974
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 5 November 2021 13:31 (two years ago) link
i think the biggest surprise for me is the relative lack of Wiseman. i didnt pay attention to the nominations process, did he get excluded as 'TV', or is he just way less popular on ILX than i assumed?
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 5 November 2021 14:53 (two years ago) link
big vote splitting? hard to think of him having a 'key' film most fans would vote for
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 November 2021 14:54 (two years ago) link
Doesn't help that you can't see his movies unless you use Kanopy or torrent them or blind-buy a DVD for $40.
― Chris L, Friday, 5 November 2021 14:57 (two years ago) link
I checked the spreadsheet: 7 different films were nominated (I voted for Welfare). Titicut Follies is on the TSPDT list, and for me, that's not nearly as good as some of his later films.
― clemenza, Friday, 5 November 2021 14:57 (two years ago) link
In Jackson Heights is, I think, well, the height.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 5 November 2021 14:57 (two years ago) link
agreed
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 November 2021 14:57 (two years ago) link
i probably would have voted for high school, but woulda been a coinflip btw that & jackson hts
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 5 November 2021 15:02 (two years ago) link
ive been watching hollis films this year and i might have put nostalgia on my ranked list if i were to submit now
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 November 2021 bookmarkflaglink
He's made lots that I love. Not that it would've mattered to the outcome lol but I should put a lot more experimental film.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 November 2021 15:11 (two years ago) link
Some juicy individual ballots to takes notes from and obv more of the Morbs canon to dive into.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 November 2021 15:13 (two years ago) link
here's my juicy ballot:
Images Of The World And Inscriptions Of War - Farocki 1989Bush Mama - Gerima 1979Johnny Guitar Ray, Nicholas 1954Psycho Hitchcock, Alfred 1960How To Live In The GDR - Farocki 1990Chronicle of Anna Magdalena Bach, The Straub, Jean-Marie 1968Citizen Kane Welles, Orson 1941Reckless Moment, The Ophüls, Max 1949Muriel Resnais, Alain 1963Beau travail Denis, Claire 1999I-Be Area (Trecartin, 2007)In a Lonely Place Ray, Nicholas 1950One day Pina asked me – Akerman 1983Rosemary's Baby Polanski, Roman 1968Halfmoon Files - Scheffner 2007Trouble in Paradise Lubitsch, Ernst 1932Three Women – Altman 1977Close-Up Kiarostami, Abbas 1990High School II – Wiseman 1994London Keiller, Patrick 1994Opening Night Cassavetes, John 1977Night of the Hunter, The Laughton, Charles 1955Ten Kiarostami, Abbas 2002Cabaret Fosse, Bob 1972Videograms Of A Revolution - Farocki 1992
Piano Teacher, The Haneke, Michael 2001Fig Trees - Greyson 2009West Side Story Wise, Robert/Jerome Robbins 1961Est, D' Akerman, Chantal 1993No Home Movie Akerman, Chantal 2015Chronicle of a Summer Rouch, Jean & Edgar Morin 1961Zero Patience - Greyson 1993In the Mood for Love Wong Kar-wai 2000Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown Almodóvar, Pedro 1988All About My Mother Almodóvar, Pedro 1999Tongues Untied (Riggs, 1989)Tout va bien – Godard 1972Midnight – Leisen 1939Come Back to the 5 & Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean – Altman 1982Sweet Charity – Fosse 1969Vanya on 42nd st – Malle 1994Katzelmacher – Fassbinder 1969Long Goodbye, The Altman, Robert 1973Female Trouble Waters, John 1974Hitler: A Film from Germany Syberberg, Hans-Jürgen 1977Vertigo Hitchcock, Alfred 1958India Song Duras, Marguerite 1975City Girl - Murnau 1930Love Streams Cassavetes, John 1984Wanda Loden, Barbara 1970Battle of Algiers, The Pontecorvo, Gillo 1966Fox And His Friends Fassbinder, Rainer Werner 1975Happy Together Wong Kar-wai 1997Paris Is Burning Livingston, Jennie 1990Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant, The Fassbinder, Rainer Werner 1972la ceremonie – chabrol 1995Avventura, L' Antonioni, Michelangelo 1960Safe Haynes, Todd 1995How To Live In The GDR - Farocki 1990Sans soleil Marker, Chris 1983Inland Empire Lynch, David 2006Nightcleaners – Berwick Film Collective 1972-5Peeping Tom Powell, Michael 1960Russian Ark Sokurov, Aleksandr 2002Stromboli – Rossellini 1950His Girl Friday Hawks, Howard 1940Headless Woman, The Martel, Lucrecia 2008Nostalgia Frampton, Hollis 1971Sauve qui peut (la vie) Godard, Jean-Luc 1980Jetée, La Marker, Chris 1962Family Finds Entertainment, A (Trecartin, 2004)Hour of the Furnaces, The Getino, Octavio & Fernando E. Solanas 1968
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 November 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link
The Hour of the Furnaces and Bush Mama! Juicy!!
Seen a lot of it. The one person I haven't explored is Farocki.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 November 2021 15:43 (two years ago) link
I saw Wanda for the first time last week. Now that’s a movie!
― siffleur’s mom (wins), Friday, 5 November 2021 15:48 (two years ago) link
I didn't vote for Wanda but it'd be a strong entry here for sure.
― Chris L, Friday, 5 November 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link
I love Wiseman but I didn’t even have any in my long list due to being paralyzed by choice and doubting that any single film of his would get enough support to make it.
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Friday, 5 November 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link
i put high school ii in but tbh i could have picked state legislature, ex libris, the store, etc
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 November 2021 16:33 (two years ago) link
lol whats the one with the sexy monks, that one
Essene!
― Dan S, Friday, 5 November 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link
I always want to hear someone else's thoughts on Welfare; I'm never sure if people haven't seen it or just don't think as highly of it as I do. Neither of its two most memorable sequences are on on YouTube.
― clemenza, Friday, 5 November 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link
I've only seen maybe half of his films so far (I started with some of the newer ones and then went back to the beginning to watch them in order), but I think Welfare is one of his best
― Dan S, Friday, 5 November 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link
I like all his later films that I've seen (I posted months ago about making a concerted effort to catch up with Monrovia and City Hall; of course, I haven't), but the tone is almost autumnal--understandable at his age--and they're often focused on the battle for funding, so there are lots of meetings and strategizing. They're all good to great. There's an urgency in Welfare, though--all these people at the edge of exhaustion as they try to get not just a few dollars but simply an appointment--that is missing in those later films for me.
― clemenza, Friday, 5 November 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link
City Hall I couldn't finish while I lapped up the others.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 November 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link
City Hall was the best movie of 2020.
― Chris L, Friday, 5 November 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link
yeah city hall was excellent
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 November 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link
remember wishing that akerman pina doc were longer (and the wim wenders one shorter)
― donna rouge, Friday, 5 November 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link
oh god the wenders one jc. its amazing how compact the akerman one is though, it condenses so much into something quite sparse so you get both a real sense of bausch's process and what the performances are like (much closer than the wenders one which just soups them up but never captures what they actually do) alongside a very layered critique, freighted with ambivalence
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 November 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link
i saw akerman discussing it in a q&a and she was very very funny particularly talking about the final interview with bausch where she said (paraphrasing wildly) 'oh my god i was just telling her everything about my life my fears my deep emotional wells trying to provoke something, anything and she just sat there, on camera, for hours, smoking that cigarette almost primly, giving me nothing'
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 November 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link
Welfare is still on my shelf unwatched, sadly - after seeing Juvenile Court & Public Housing i got worried about ODing on that kind of bureaucratic misery (also not too far from my dayjob), so I've been gun-shy about it. but hearing you guys call it one of his best can probably convince me to get around to it sooner. one of my fave deep cuts from The Lighter Side of Wiseman(tm) is The Store, about a Nieman Marcus in Texas in the early 80s.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 5 November 2021 18:07 (two years ago) link
The Store is the one I finished most recently
― Dan S, Friday, 5 November 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link
If anyone thinks they might ever refer back to these results, I recommend bookmarking the pertinent posts now before the thread gets too much larger.
― Everybody Loves Ramen (WmC), Friday, 5 November 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link
I'll add the results to this thread (I had saved all the coding and lost it, so it'll be later today): They Poll Movies, Don't They? The ILX Film-Poll Results Thread
― clemenza, Friday, 5 November 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link