ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

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the legend of zelda: the image book

devvvine, Monday, 1 November 2021 18:06 (two years ago) link

Zelig? (Gawd, I hope not.)

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 1 November 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link

i think alfred meant zola

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 1 November 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link

*masked antonio banderas on horseback wielding a sword has entered the chat*

imago, Monday, 1 November 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link

Zeldatopia

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 1 November 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link

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36. PLAYTIME (Jacques Tati, 1967, France) [853.27 points; 11 votes; 1 first-place vote; Morbs silver]
S&S: 39 | TSPDT: 49 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "Saw this last night at Lincoln Center; at least my third viewing of the film, but never so eye-popping. I feel like I could go again tonight. I know it's on Criterion Collection, but run to the theater if it ever shows near you. You'll scarcely know what part of the screen to look at during the nightclub sequence. The only other film of its time it evokes is 2001 … Walking the streets around Lincoln Center afterward -- tourists taking pictures, pedestrians crossing in front of buses, everybody seemed to have stepped out of the film. This happens every time; the movie turns urban life into Tativille … as with Keaton, Tati is more about astonishment than laughter to me."

Love all the squeaky glass. I saw some old new version at the Walter Reade back in the late 90s. The funny thing was, I had a good friend staying at my house and as I settled in my chair on one side of the auditorium, I was semi-surprised to see her coming in (late as usual) and seating herself on the other. This is not a story of romance, just a story of movie-crazed people. 2001 comparison OTM.
― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, January 5, 2005 12:24 PM

just... magnificent.
― Who Makes the Na'vis? (s1ocki), Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:09 AM

playtime is probably all-time top 10 for me
― clouds, Monday, September 3, 2012 10:29 AM

You could almost say that Modernism finds its truest expression in 'Playtime'. As so often happens, it's satire which most permanently commemorates the things it's supposedly undermining.
― Momus (Momus), Monday, September 1, 2003 12:52 PM

I finally completed the Hulot cycle (going backwards) about 6 weeks ago. Playtime is the best and actually plays pretty well at home since you keep re-playing bits over and over again. Although, having first seen it in a theatre, you do miss the sheer enormity of some of the shots and set-ups.
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, December 8, 2008 7:10 PM

omg I just started watching this last night and I felt like a child. When else has an artistic work been so deeply, breathtakingly beautiful and also so clever and funny at the same time? It has an effervescent magic to it that I just could not even comprehend. It also made me want to watch nothing but Tati and Greenaway and maybe Carax for the rest of my life. And the sound editing, my god!
― police patrol felt the smell of smoke and found that goat burns (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, January 12, 2016 2:39 PM

The only Tati I can stand.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, December 8, 2008 7:24 PM

playtime has always kinda bored me...guess I need to give it another shot.
― ryan, Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:17 PM

ugh Tati
― Simon H., Tuesday, January 16, 2018 4:25 PM

Tati's the only thing worse than Chaplin
― Washable School Paste (sexyDancer), Monday, April 10, 2006 11:13 AM

it's not the expectation of funniness that's the problem w/r/t tati and particularly this film. whether i sat down expecting to be impressed or expecting to laugh i'd just wind up, as i always do with him, as a tight little ball of anxiety expanding to pure hatred until the point where i just have to switch it off because it's no good for me. i wouldn't expect it to be funny but it's so completely the opposite of funny to me. if this is proof that it's working then fine but i'll keep it as far away from me as i can.
― jed_, Monday, September 3, 2012 6:39 AM

I also had a poor experience of Tati's supposed masterpiece. I went to see Playtime after a long absence from my local multiplex, a six-screener. I was disconcerted, upon arrival, to find that the place had been subdivided even further. From the escalator I could see individual viewing cabins, open-topped, stretching to the horizon, all painted the same shade of grey. Each one was occupied by a single viewer watching a single film via a head-mounted audio-visual apparatus. Wandering around the premises with my umbrella in hand and my hat and coat still on, I was able to observe a peculiar charade taking place. No sooner was a viewer led to a vacant cubicle by a grey-suited hostess (more like an air hostess than a cinema usherette) and fitted with a helmet than a second occupant was surreptitiously ushered in, a typist or junior clerk who sat at a desk beside the oblivious viewer, making telephone calls or typing. It would seem that the cinema business, in itself, was considered by the new Anglo-American management an insufficient source of revenue. I was soon apprehended by one of the hostesses, who asked me what film I was here to see, then led me to my own cubicle, which was number 12,346. The air-conditioning in this unit was overwhelmingly loud, making the hostess' instructions to me completely inaudible. She had to demonstrate the use of seat-belt, tray table and visor in a kind of dumb-show, by the end of which I had changed my mind about the whole thing. I escaped while her head was buried in the helmet, pausing only to indicate the cubicle to the typist waiting outside. I now became lost in the featureless warren of grey corridors, punctuated only by sleek security cameras which craned to follow my movements. Since the floor was slippery as ice, these became increasingly erratic, and I found myself slithering around, completely out of control. Yet no matter where I slithered, the security cameras craned their necks to watch, like a flock of storks choreographed by Busby Berkeley. It was suddenly very silent in the multiplex, and I became conscious -- slumped on the ground -- of three sounds: the ticking of my watch, the beating of my heart, and the sound of the ripping skin of the banana I had produced from my inside pocket and now began to eat. These sounds were so loud that several booth doors opened and angry customers gesticulated at me, waving me away. I waved back in greeting, only to find strong metallic hands gripping my wrists. A couple of apelike robots escorted me to the emergency fire exit and threw me out onto the helipad (so shiny I could see the Eiffel Tower reflected in it), where a jazz band was playing furiously, welcoming a VIP just then touching down in a helicopter. "I came here to see some Jacques Tati," I mimed to the tuba player, who was playing a deafening series of farting noises, "but this place isn't what it used to be". "But have you seen Playtime?" the brass-player mimed back over the din of the arriving helicopter. "It's a brilliant deconstruction of 20th century Taylorist rationality, juxtaposing the modernity of Max Weber's worst nightmares with 70mm vaudeville routines. Great sound design, too!" The helicopter door opened and Charles de Gaulle himself popped his head out. "Once upon a time there was an old country, wrapped up in habit and caution," he mimed over the din. "We have to transform our old France into a new country and marry her to these times. Are you coming with me?" I shook my head. "No, Monsieur le President," I mimed. "I'm going..." And I looked around and saw, amongst the cubic office blocks, a windmill. "I'm going to that windmill. That's my France!" "That's the Moulin Rouge," smiled de Gaulle. "That's where I'm going too. Hop in!"
― Grampsy, Monday, September 3, 2012 6:42 AM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 1 November 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link

I think this may be the first film to place that was on my ballot? Must remember to dig deeper into that Tati set.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Monday, 1 November 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link

One of my top 5. Have seen it twice in the theater (once without subtitles).

Chris L, Monday, 1 November 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

Really like Playtime, such a one-off.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 November 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

All films about couples arguing and breaking up are absolute shite and filmmakers really need to stop making them.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 1 November 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

Did not know until I saw the Sparks documentary that Tati was set to do a movie with them, until he became too ill.

Chris L, Monday, 1 November 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

That Grampsy post is still maybe one of my favorite things on ILX outside of "eat sbarro."

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 1 November 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link

<<i think alfred meant zola>>

Ah! I adooooooooored @Zola! Ok more contemporary comedies (or whatever) like @Zola and Booksmart please.

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 1 November 2021 18:28 (two years ago) link

Wow! That Grampsy post was beautiful. Who's Grampsy??

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 1 November 2021 18:41 (two years ago) link

voted for Playtime but really enjoyed Mon Oncle as well

Dan S, Monday, 1 November 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link

as pure comedies i like holiday and jour de fete better, but playtime is such a monumental achievement, top 10 for me. morbs otm re:comparing it to 2001, it seems to sit outside cinema

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 1 November 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link

jour de fete is so good

weirdly i have watched traffic but not playtime. traffic is good i think, although i preferred jour de fete's breezier pleasures so i'm not convinced playtime will dazzle me. but who knows

imago, Monday, 1 November 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link

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35. McCABE & MRS. MILLER (Robert Altman, 1971, USA) [855.6 points; 15 votes]
S&S: 324 | TSPDT: 206 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "McCabe & Mrs. Miller and 3 Women are somewhat overrated, and not better than Nashville."

saw McCabe & Mrs. Miller again, one of my favorite films ever, it still seems perfect to me, a beautiful recreation of frontier life. I liked the way it intertwined the events of the story with the lyrics of the Leonard Cohen songs
― Dan S, Monday, May 4, 2020 5:49 PM

I'm not really a fan of McCabe and Mrs. Miller.
― jaymc, Monday, May 7, 2007 12:40 PM

Always feel McCabe & Mrs Miller should be docked half a point for Julie Christie's terrible cockney accent (tho' I concede that might be the deep point - ie Mrs Miller is faking it)
― Darcy Sarto (Ward Fowler), Thursday, November 17, 2016 9:26 AM

Altman is overrated though (except for Nashville and McCabe and Mrs. Miller which can't be overrated enough.)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, May 12, 2004 6:44 PM

McCabe & Mrs. Miller left me cold.
― flappy bird, Friday, January 19, 2018 12:27 PM

the weird thing about altman's "liveliness," and i don't mean this as a putdown, is that it feels held under glass. like he's set in motion something quasi-spontaneous but filmed it at a remove, in an almost anthropological way (at times). this is less true of mccabe & mrs miller which feels much more subjective to me.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, August 20, 2014 3:59 PM

Any one of The Long Goodbye, McCabe, and California Split might be my favorite from that era, depending on my mood on a given day.
― Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Wednesday, February 28, 2018 2:15 PM

mmmmmm romantic pretty gusty snowy wind
― Annouschka Magnatech (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:10 PM

McCabe & Mrs. Miller is my favorite Altman movie.
― Dan S, Friday, January 19, 2018 12:28 PM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 1 November 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link

so far have voted for all of the films that have shown up today!

Dan S, Monday, 1 November 2021 19:29 (two years ago) link

john mccabe one of cinema's all time great dumb guys

devvvine, Monday, 1 November 2021 19:31 (two years ago) link

But he's got poetry in him!

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 1 November 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link

Zelig? (Gawd, I hope not.)

― Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, November 1, 2021 2:11 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think alfred meant zola

― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson),

yeah, autocorrect lol

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 November 2021 19:35 (two years ago) link

There's so much '70s Altman. I watched a different one recently to try and catch up, but I won't mention the title because it hasn't placed yet and I don't want to jinx it.

o. nate, Monday, 1 November 2021 19:35 (two years ago) link

The closest I came to being pilloried by students was showing an hour of Playtime in 2019.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 November 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link

what were their reasons for hating it?

Dan S, Monday, 1 November 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link

The reasons we love it.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 November 2021 19:49 (two years ago) link

The use of silence, the grandness and antiseptic gleam of the visual design, the lack of editing, the long shots...

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 November 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link

oh i just cant bear the whimsy the cutesy vibe

plax (ico), Monday, 1 November 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link

re singing in the rain earlier my hatred of it and gene kelly has only grown with time

plax (ico), Monday, 1 November 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link

So not a good day for plax (ico) then

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 1 November 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link

yah, sorry i missed the chat about johnny guitar which is one of my favourite movies of all time and a film that i'm shocked anyone could be lukewarm about because the first time i saw it in the cinema it was like magic was real

plax (ico), Monday, 1 November 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link

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plax (ico) today

Chris L, Monday, 1 November 2021 20:06 (two years ago) link

that scene is just not cinema gold idc

plax (ico), Monday, 1 November 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link

I love Mon Oncle, with Playtime the whimsy becomes heavy-handed and laboured. It's bad when the big scene where "everybody kicks back and gets spontaneous" looks as stilted as the rest.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 1 November 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link

Gene Kelly's smile can be terrifying, so I get plax's antipathy to a degree.

I was skeptical of Johnny Guitar based on the color of Crawford's scarf. Downhill from there. (I like it fine now).

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 November 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link

xp
the stylization was the point though and was more alien-seeming than whimsical to me

Dan S, Monday, 1 November 2021 20:13 (two years ago) link

Saw Johnny Guitar when I was doing Film Studies at uni, was not that impressed, but it was the wrong environment for enjoying films, actually the course put me off films for a good decade or so. Should revisit.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 1 November 2021 20:20 (two years ago) link

what about the film?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 November 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link

never revisiting that course, they made us watch laura mulvey films

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 1 November 2021 20:25 (two years ago) link

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34. THE LONG GOODBYE (Robert Altman, 1973, USA) [865.38 points; 16 votes; Morbs silver]
S&S: 418 | TSPDT: 412 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "I always forget David Carradine's cameo as Socrates the cellmate ('Someday the pigs are gonna be in here and the people are gonna be out there') … people who think this is a 'travesty' don't get it … increasingly think his two great films are Nashville & The Long Goodbye"

ALTMAN POLL
Poll Results
The Long Goodbye (1973) 12
McCabe & Mrs. Miller (1971) 12

God, I love The Long Goodbye. I can't express in words how deep my love for that film truly is.
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Tuesday, April 29, 2003 12:40 AM

I could watch it forever.
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, May 20, 2020 7:19 PM

just the greatest movie
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Friday, March 9, 2018 7:11 PM

I think this may latterly have become my favourite movie ever.
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Thursday, November 30, 2017 4:39 AM

goddamn great movie. best director/best actor combined in one perfect story.
― ddd, Sunday, April 29, 2007 10:28 PM

There's one shot in The Long Goodbye--where the Russian (?) girl is waiting outside in the car for her gangster boyfriend, and as she reaches up from the back seat to turn up the radio, the camera gently tracks with her. There's something slyly humorous about that moment, where Altman is teasingly highlighting that ridiculous motif of hearing "The Long Goodbye" performed by 1,000 different singers, in the middle of one of the tensest moments in the film. I like stuff like that.
― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, May 7, 2003 10:28 AM

I feel this is the most accurate screen Marlowe, most like the character in the novels. Bogey be damned.
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Saturday, March 16, 2013 7:53 PM

Movie most overrated by people with decent taste? I think both director and actor are wrong for the movie, and the song gets really tiresome after a while.
― Moo Vaughn, Thursday, March 29, 2018 11:08 AM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 1 November 2021 20:28 (two years ago) link

you guys really like altman eh?

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 1 November 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link

Some days, my fave Altman. Sterling Hayden has one line reading in it that may be the funniest in cinematic history (won't spoil for those who haven't seen).

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Monday, 1 November 2021 20:30 (two years ago) link

There's one shot in The Long Goodbye--where the Russian (?) girl is waiting outside in the car for her gangster boyfriend, and as she reaches up from the back seat to turn up the radio, the camera gently tracks with her. There's something slyly humorous about that moment, where Altman is teasingly highlighting that ridiculous motif of hearing "The Long Goodbye" performed by 1,000 different singers, in the middle of one of the tensest moments in the film. I like stuff like that.
― amateurist (amateurist),

otm

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 November 2021 20:31 (two years ago) link

I personally could've for sure done without California Split in this 100, but that's the way the chips fell.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 1 November 2021 20:35 (two years ago) link

Nash-ville! Nash-ville!

Chris L, Monday, 1 November 2021 20:40 (two years ago) link

Presumably yet to come.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 1 November 2021 20:41 (two years ago) link

Needless to say, Altman became the first director in the countdown to have three films ... and then immediately became the first director here to have four.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 1 November 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link

OK, so this is the '70s Altman I watched recently for the first time. Pretty good, actually. I didn't love the ending.

o. nate, Monday, 1 November 2021 20:45 (two years ago) link

I liked how grimy the '70s looked.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 November 2021 20:46 (two years ago) link

It's true. And just about every indoor public place smelled of stale cigarette smoke.

o. nate, Monday, 1 November 2021 20:49 (two years ago) link


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