US Politics June 2021 - "Where we're going, we don't NEED bipartisanship"

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Well, shoot them in the leg—or maybe the foot," Trump said. "But be hard on them!"
The new details about how Milley and a handful of other senior officials were forced to confront Trump's increasingly volatile behavior


good thing they kept this quiet. if there anyone else who repeatedly publicly called for civil rights protestors to be shot in the leg, surely their political career would be ruined

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 25 June 2021 04:06 (three years ago) link

dang xp

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 25 June 2021 04:07 (three years ago) link

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-24/wall-street-sees-big-wish-granted-in-biden-s-infrastructure-deal

Selling off the TVA would be very “new FDR.”

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 25 June 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link

Asset recycling -- a policy many credit as being coined in Australia

how did it go there, does anyone remember

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 25 June 2021 14:19 (three years ago) link

Sounds good, don’t want to let those assets go to waste. I am an asset composted myself though

Karl Malone, Friday, 25 June 2021 14:31 (three years ago) link

Composter

Computer poster

Karl Malone, Friday, 25 June 2021 14:31 (three years ago) link

My programming will never allow me to truthfully refer to myself as a composted

Karl Malone, Friday, 25 June 2021 14:32 (three years ago) link

Ok, what is asset recycling and why is it bad?

Van Halen dot Senate dot flashlight (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 25 June 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link

It means “infrastructure privatization.” I think the bad is self-explanatory.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 25 June 2021 14:42 (three years ago) link

Deal's in trouble already pic.twitter.com/ewRLfeclqS

— Sam Stein (@samstein) June 25, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 25 June 2021 14:49 (three years ago) link

oh noes, what if they have to do it all through reconciliation?

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 25 June 2021 14:50 (three years ago) link

well, if that happens the Dems can pass this bill using reconciliation while Biden, Manshit, etc can shake their heads sadly and say, well, bipartisanship, we tried, etc.

Privatizing federal property is fucking awful.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 June 2021 14:51 (three years ago) link

manchin already walking back from backing reconcilliation

akm, Friday, 25 June 2021 15:15 (three years ago) link

It means “infrastructure privatization.” I think the bad is self-explanatory.


Thanks I should have figured it was a euphemism for something shitty.

Van Halen dot Senate dot flashlight (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 25 June 2021 15:51 (three years ago) link

The Trump admin wanted to privatize the George Washington Parkway, IIRC, or turn it over to VDOT lol.

Van Halen dot Senate dot flashlight (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 25 June 2021 15:53 (three years ago) link

It's a very '90s euphemism. Xtreme Asset Recycling

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 25 June 2021 15:55 (three years ago) link

Obama proposed privatizing the TVA at some point.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 25 June 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link

They may not have the votes to do anything in reconciliation. Not even clear they have the votes for that in the house, much less the senate.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 25 June 2021 16:11 (three years ago) link

“I'm not voting for reconciliation,” @RepSchrader said, confirming that applies to both the budget resolution & actual reconciliation bill. “I think the reconciliation process is completely unwarranted. I'm not going to vote for $5 trillion of spending." https://t.co/dRHjCKFbn1

— Lindsey McPherson (@lindsemcpherson) June 25, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 25 June 2021 16:11 (three years ago) link

If asset recycling is like “we privatise parking enforcement on federal property in return for 6tn new spending” I’m probably fine with it in the interests of making a deal.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 25 June 2021 16:13 (three years ago) link

i knew someone was getting played when that deal was announced yesterday but if i'm honest i just assumed it would be the democrats haha, didn't think they had it in them. (although who knows what happens next.)

There’s lots of complaining coming from offices of the 11 Senate Republicans who endorsed the original infrastructure framework.

Aide to one of those senators: “Demanding that we didn't pass the bipartisan deal unless reconciliation was passed first was never part of the deal.”

— Ryan Lizza (@RyanLizza) June 25, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 25 June 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link

If they back out of the bipartisan deal now there are zero consequences for them and nothing continues to get passed benefitting them in the midterms.

If the Democrats thought they were playing anyone and now Lindsey Graham would be bound by his agreement to the deal... hooo boy.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 25 June 2021 16:40 (three years ago) link

Saying "no takebacks" is not a legally binding contract, unfortunately.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 25 June 2021 16:41 (three years ago) link

oh i don't think it was smart if this is what the biden wanted/expected to happen. i'm just surprised they even tried it since it's superficial hardball.

but i dunno about zero consequences. can see some of the ConGreSSIonaL NoRmS voters in house/senate being moved toward reconciliation if this collapes.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 25 June 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link

The police almost never prevent crimes. They just arrest people after the fact. And it's not always the right people. And all too often they kill or physically harm whoever they're trying to arrest. And then they lie about it.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Friday, 25 June 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link

^ that was meant for this thread: Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Friday, 25 June 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

What happened is that Republicans were confident that Dems wouldn't pass a 2nd bill, then when Pelosi and Biden started making assurances, they said "no fair you're not allowed to be competent" https://t.co/9JEjQcPYAB

— David Dayen (@ddayen) June 25, 2021


And if this dissolves and we only get a reconciliation bill, maybe the privatization crap gets tossed out and it's better substantively too

— David Dayen (@ddayen) June 25, 2021

seems like hopium

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 25 June 2021 18:15 (three years ago) link

lol Biden already caved

Such political genius.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 27 June 2021 00:02 (three years ago) link

if you are puzzled about who is a political genius vs being a total loser and a dolt, just ask milo. he will set you straight. if milo isn't available, just ask Trump, who is also known for his instant discernment in sorting out geniuses and losers.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Sunday, 27 June 2021 00:37 (three years ago) link

Has Biden done things in the past that make you think he exhibits political genius?

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 27 June 2021 00:45 (three years ago) link

Nope

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Sunday, 27 June 2021 00:52 (three years ago) link

together at last

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 27 June 2021 00:58 (three years ago) link

Did Biden call off both the infrastructure and reconciliation bills?

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 27 June 2021 01:27 (three years ago) link

whatever it was he did, we know he caved in (see above)

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Sunday, 27 June 2021 02:40 (three years ago) link

lol sic

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 27 June 2021 08:35 (three years ago) link

BREAKING: Former U.S. Sen. Mike Gravel of Alaska, who read the Pentagon Papers into the Congressional Record in 1971 and decades later ran for the Democratic presidential nomination as a critic of the Iraq war, has died at age 91. https://t.co/5wqxNsR83u

— The Associated Press (@AP) June 27, 2021

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 June 2021 12:52 (three years ago) link

lol he ran for president?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 June 2021 12:57 (three years ago) link

do u not remember gravelteens

🎼do you remember the teens of gravel🎼

ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Sunday, 27 June 2021 13:17 (three years ago) link

RIP

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Sunday, 27 June 2021 14:33 (three years ago) link

RIP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rZdAB4V_j8

eisimpleir (crüt), Sunday, 27 June 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link

one of the best dadaist campaign ads of our time imo

I can yeet a yeti (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 27 June 2021 14:47 (three years ago) link

Rehabilitating Wm. Barr's reputation makes you an accessory after the fact.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Sunday, 27 June 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link

But when the big moment came after the election, he defied the president who expected him to do his bidding.

Feel like there were quite a few big moments before the election when he did not do this.

JoeStork, Sunday, 27 June 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

Did Biden call off both the infrastructure and reconciliation bills?

No, the auction off the TVA bill is still on the table, no longer tied to the reconciliation bill (that Manchin is backing away from already).

Biden statement: White House does NOT plan to veto bipartisan bill if it comes without reconciliation package. Major shift pic.twitter.com/bbLl3K7STD

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) June 26, 2021

Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 27 June 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link

Right, he wasn't going to veto the bill, it just isn't going to pass the House without a reconciliation bill.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 27 June 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link

He said he would veto it without the reconciliation bill ("If this is the only one that comes to me, I'm not signing it.") - backbone which lasted less than 24 hours and a couple of mean statements from Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham.

Why would you think Pelosi's statement of intent is any more ironclad? The House Dems may not even have the votes for the reconciliation bill.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 27 June 2021 19:32 (three years ago) link

If you think the bipartisan infrastructure compromise is good on its merits, okay cool but taking a big stand on the actual definitely good reconciliation bill being a requirement and then caving before dinner is embarrassing.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 27 June 2021 19:35 (three years ago) link

Joe Biden still around?

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Sunday, 27 June 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link


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