ILX’s Top 77 Television and Streaming Video Series of 2020

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“the sic rule.” As your author is American, the listed provenance and linked website for each show is predominantly going to be for its streaming home in the United States,

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ tbf

Please specify primary network/streamer that it aired on.

― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, December 18, 2020 9:08 AM (one month ago)

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 8 February 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link

loved the good lord bird and hawke's performance. that desus and mero interview is very enjoyable, thanks for linking it.

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Monday, 8 February 2021 20:19 (three years ago) link

Last one for today; check out my dope finishing move off the top rope!

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 February 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link

We tried getting into Bob's Burgers after finishing Adventure Time and/or Steven Universe, so while Tina, Gene and Louise as axes for personality types is urgent and key, we were very "Is this still on? Seriously, 21 minutes, what is this?"

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 8 February 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link

That’s all for Monday on an understandably quiet day, given the poll’s low numbers at the outset. We’ll be back tomorrow with a run up to #50 but, until then, I would love to hear defense and recommendations of these shows from their voters!

#65 (Tie) - AEW Dynamite (TBS) - 18 points, 3 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#65 (Tie) - The Plot Against America (HBO) - 18 points, 3 votes
#67 - The Good Lord Bird (HBO) - 18 points, 2 votes, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote
#68 - Star Trek: Picard (CBS All Access) - 18 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#69 - Dave (FX) - 16 points, 3 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#70 - 20020 (SB Nation) - 16 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#71 - Bob’s Burgers (FX) - 15 points, 3 votes
#72 (Tie) - Oxventure Dungeons and Dragons! (YouTube) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#72 (Tie) - Seduced: Inside the NXIVM Cult (Starz) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#72 (Tie) - Taskmaster (Channel 4) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#72 (Tie) - Teenage Bounty Hunters (Netflix) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#72 (Tie) - Videogame Dunkey (YouTube) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#77 (Tie) - Bluey (Disney +) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote
#77 (Tie) - Followers (Netflix) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote
#77 (Tie) - She-Ra and the Princesses of Power (Netflix) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote
#77 (Tie) - The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote
#77 (Tie) - We Are Who We Are (HBO) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 February 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link

really wished i'd checked out Plot Against America, sounds like it's right in my wheelhouse.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 8 February 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link

:D at all the 1 vote, #1 vote ties

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 8 February 2021 20:35 (three years ago) link

I wanted to see that too and was too slow on the draw--believe it played on Prime before I signed up...I'm catching up compared to five years ago, but wow, most of these shows are obscure to me. I'm think I'm just baby-steps removed from 1995.

clemenza, Monday, 8 February 2021 20:37 (three years ago) link

I had Bob's Burgers pretty high and feel like it's a perfect TV show. it's been on forever and i feel like the quality has held steady; without having to resort to any current affairs or over the top zany new characters or humour that's not suited to the show. i'm kind of amazed they're still doing the same thing and still doing it so well – and as someone who enjoys edgier stuff, I really like their approach to pg-level humour.

xpost - Clem: I'm clearing out a few shows I never got to finish, but maybe we can synchronize our watching in a couple weeks?!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 8 February 2021 20:40 (three years ago) link

Sounds good, but I think they took it down, no?

clemenza, Monday, 8 February 2021 20:41 (three years ago) link

I was the other Oxventure vote. Learned about the show from the 2019 list. Lots of fun.

that's not my post, Monday, 8 February 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link

plot against america is worthwhile, i was one of the voters;

i'm a big roth fan but him doing alternative history did not grab me when i tried the novel ten or so yrs ago, maybe i'd be more into it now; the miniseries felt p tone perfect in establishing that era and the fear and powerlessness of sociopolitical occurrances/movements

johnny crunch, Monday, 8 February 2021 21:12 (three years ago) link

i enjoyed Man in the High Castle and feel like it might be along those lines?

Clem - if they did, I'll find it elsewhere and can share with you, if you like.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 8 February 2021 21:35 (three years ago) link

I was the other Oxventure vote. Learned about the show from the 2019 list. Lots of fun.

Aw, nice! Have you watched their new Blades in the Dark campaigns? The first has been the only one with the whole group (the subsequent ones have featured only two players), but Mike's role-playing for Barnaby has been exquisite.

Mike Mignola Electric Co. (Leee), Monday, 8 February 2021 22:30 (three years ago) link

xpost, Blades in the Dark goes to the top of the need to watch list...

that's not my post, Monday, 8 February 2021 23:06 (three years ago) link

add me to the "Dave is actually good, I promise" chorus

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 00:00 (three years ago) link

Nothing I voted for has showed up yet. Have a feeling most of my ballot will be high consensus picks, and the other two or three won't make the list

Vinnie, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 00:35 (three years ago) link

Seen enough of two of these to know they aint for me (disclosure they were annoying and bad) but ill check out the plot against america

scampsite (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 00:38 (three years ago) link

I was the one voter for We Are Who We Are, so was glad I submitted a ballot. I liked that it meandered and was open-ended and mostly plotless, it seemed fitting for the two teenage characters it followed, bonding over realizing they were both queer and dealing with the resulting alienation

Dan S, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 02:05 (three years ago) link

I also like that the first character it focuses on, played by Jack Dylan Grazer, is strange and sulky and kind of off-putting, and his counterpoint, Jordan Kristine Seamón is the opposite

Dan S, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 02:07 (three years ago) link

OK so as noted in the noms thread Idve voted for Umbrella Academy and prob in top 5, so it would have been way up the list could I have done so :( oh well.

I've only now seen Seduced, mightve voted for it too, its pretty full on.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 02:27 (three years ago) link

with we are who we are: the immensely fucked up relationships of Sevigny and everyone in her sphere got downright comical eventually

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 02:41 (three years ago) link

she was completely in charge as a commander but such a mess as a mother and wife, it was interesting

Dan S, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 02:47 (three years ago) link

Given Followers was my strategic number 1, put in so other people should take notice, I should out myself. This is a really interesting show about women on different stages of the fame/hype cycle and more fundamentally about what it is to be a woman in Japan today. It's a really great piece of social commentary. It's also really beautifully shot, the use of colour is really good with the saturation and intensity rising with the character's fortunes and then washing out as they fall. It makes Tokyo look so good.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 02:48 (three years ago) link

xp
the bit where jack slaps his mother around and then kinda fake nurses her was very uh.
and the very corny and tone deaf seduction of kid cudi's wife by the military doctor.
and OF COURSE the extremely wrong attempt by the thirtysomething to initiate a threesome with a fifteen year old.
lots of weird shit in that show. i wish it was attempted with a less gauzy softcore eye... or maybe just not done at all?
Still not sure if many of the choices in that show are camp or self consciously perverse or just utterly tone deaf.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 02:52 (three years ago) link

yes to all of those points, there was a lot of questionable stuff along the way

Dan S, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 03:00 (three years ago) link

the teenagers ultimately had insight and made the right choices, though

Dan S, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 03:04 (three years ago) link

I don't feel like I see many tv show that are very interesting. this was interesting I thought, despite being self-consciously perverse

Dan S, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 03:09 (three years ago) link

i thought the first three, maybe four episodes did a good job of keeping me in but i think right around the wedding party the show took a hard turn and lost me

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 03:11 (three years ago) link

like the wedding party almost worked but not quite? and everything after that started feeling more and more removed from wherever the story was going before and getting more interested in shipping the characters like the director was playing with his barbies.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 03:12 (three years ago) link

I was reminded of Transparent, which was a show where not much happened except real life, and I was always surprised by how at the beginning of each episode I never could imagine where it was going to end up

Dan S, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 03:16 (three years ago) link

maybe a fair comparison as transparent also lost me at a certain point! I'm big on maintaining a narrative thread, otherwise it's free verse.

hbo seems really invested in having at least one teenagers-who-are-fucking show in rotation at any given moment and i think this was that. among the next up:
https://deadline.com/2019/12/hbo-max-orders-lena-dunham-produced-generation-to-series-1202801586/
(tangentially, dunham has not had much luck as a producer lately)

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 03:17 (three years ago) link

btw if you liked this show I strongly recommend Mercier as a kid from Israel who wants to become Parisian in Synonyms, where he does some outrageously good acting. Tons of full frontal nudity from him too if that's your thing.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 06:12 (three years ago) link

Obit for S. Clay Wilson: http://www.tcj.com/s-clay-wilson-the-most-influential-artist-of-his-generation/

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 06:41 (three years ago) link

rong thread, sorry!

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 06:43 (three years ago) link

Taskmaster was very good this season. Daisy May Cooper in the live words task is probably the most I laughed at TV last year.

braised cod, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 11:38 (three years ago) link

A bit predictable, heavy on network sitcom formula and lacking some of the acid and cleverness that made Always Sunny a must-watch, I found Mythic Quest nonetheless to be a pleasant enough low-commitment binge-watch that offered the promise of a more interesting second season now that all the characters and rulesets are fully defined.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 13:02 (three years ago) link

The main arguments for buying into Netflix's hour-long good-family-gone-bad-drama Ozark are a stellar cast and a defined arc that ends in the coming year. The arguments against are its knottiness and bleak worldview.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 13:27 (three years ago) link

We had terrible trouble trying to get Mythic Quest because the Apple TV kept trying to stream the 4k version, no matter how many times we told it not to do that. Bloody Apple.

trishyb, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 13:33 (three years ago) link

And then when it did work, it wasn't as good as it would've needed to be to overcome that initial annoyance. So I dislike it out of all proportion to its actual flaws as a programme.

trishyb, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 13:34 (three years ago) link

The very definition of prestige television: REO Speedwagon.

clemenza, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 13:54 (three years ago) link

only seen the first couple of episodes but ozark has to have the dullest aesthetic of any show i’ve seen. everything is drab muted blues, and that lack of visual spark hurts even more when you compare the show to breaking bad, its obvious inspiration

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 13:55 (three years ago) link

I haven't even sampled Ozark because, yeah, it seems like Breaking Bad Redux minus any sense of fun its antecedent had. Which I don't really need. Am I far off the mark?

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 13:57 (three years ago) link

The criticisms of it being visually uninteresting and wearing its BB influence on its sleeve definitely hold water and the pilot episode is offputtingly rotten, but the story and characters are increasingly compelling as the series progresses (esp Ruth).

chap, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 14:00 (three years ago) link

And it's a lot more fun that its colour palette would suggest!

chap, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 14:01 (three years ago) link

it seems like Breaking Bad Redux minus any sense of fun its antecedent had

Art, it isn't, but I think it's so junky, fun is the one thing it has going for it.

clemenza, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 14:03 (three years ago) link

The cancellation of High Fidelity after one season caused a fair amount of social media tutting but it was hard not to notice that most of the complaints concerned the quick introduction and removal of a reboot headlined by a woman of color (a valid concern!) and not the lost quality of the program. Will our four voters (especially the top five voter) please let us know what the rest of us are missing?

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 14:04 (three years ago) link


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