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Proceed with caution. I just finished the first season--I enjoyed it (and will start the second season tonight), but I'm sure there'll be some ridicule on this thread, with which I won't argue too strenuously. Throw plausibility out the window--I liked the general atmosphere and the performances (some of which, like the villainous head hillbilly, are quite over the top--in that instance, it's like over-the-top underplaying). It's basically one big gloss on Breaking Bad, except Jason Bateman's character out-Walters Walter White in his ability to talk himself out of the most perilous situations.

One thing I really liked near the end of the finale is the way it directly comments on the Tony Soprano-Don Draper-Walter White lineage of lead men who, without meaning to, often ruin the lives of those around them--family, business associates, casual acquaintances, everyone. (Stop reading here if you plan to watch.) A preacher who's wavering in his faith after his wife is murdered (thanks to events set in motion by Bateman's character) says he knows there must be a god, though, because (looking at Bateman) "If the devil exists then God exists, and you're the devil."

clemenza, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 00:12 (five years ago) link

I'm halfway through the second season. It's pretty meh. Ruth is the only good character left.

Yerac, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 00:34 (five years ago) link

By the way, I know I shouldn't be using "hillbilly"--what is the more acceptable term right now (I honestly don't know--it's not a big issue in Canada)? One of the show's strengths, actually, is that the Ozark locals are anything but what the stereotype is (and how Bateman treats them, albeit solicitously)--Ruth Langmore and the Snells play Bateman more than he plays them, and Wyatt Langmore seems like more of an authentic intellectual than Bateman's daughter.

clemenza, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 00:40 (five years ago) link

I think because I watched the new Arrested Development recently, I'm kind of over Bateman's schtick (who I used to like as an actor) and even think Laura Linney is bad this season. I want to bail on the second season. I dunno yet. I might also be mad that they killed off the one other interesting character.

Yerac, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 00:46 (five years ago) link

I thought Linney was great as always the first season; also liked the FBI agent, their downstairs neighbor, Ruth, Wyatt, and Rachel (Jordana Spiro--she reminds me of Pamela Reed). And the son fits in well with all the odd, spacey kids his age that have populated movies and TV the past couple of decades: The Ice Storm, The Squid & the Whale, Glen Bishop from Mad Men, there are a bunch of them.

clemenza, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 01:03 (five years ago) link

I liked Jordana Spiro in that weird show she used to be on (My Boys?), but she is also grating Season 2.

Yerac, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 02:34 (five years ago) link

why is the cinematography all SO DARK tho. can’t watch this in the day time

single bed mentality (||||||||), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 07:54 (five years ago) link

You wanted a better look at Bateman Butt?

Yerac, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 12:44 (five years ago) link

Yerac: felt it starting to slip away in the second episode. Wendy's extortion of the senator's husband was too hokey even for House of Cards, and when Rachel reappears, she's someone who barely resembles her former self (with no indication in the first season that any of this was within her--she seemed quite solid). Something that had to happen sooner or later in season 1: the Ozark Mountain Daredevils on the soundtrack.

clemenza, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 12:48 (five years ago) link

Yeah, when Rachel showed up I was like "when did that happen?" I think we are on episode 5 right now. You like the FBI guy, I find him annoying too. Why am I watching this show!?!

Yerac, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 12:51 (five years ago) link

This looked so ugly that I didn't make it past the first episode.

adam the (abanana), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 01:01 (five years ago) link

I stuck with it, and while I could fill a few screens with implausibilities and problems--the biggest, for me, being that it seemed at times like the same endless argument between Bateman and Linney, each one taking turns one-upping the other--I'm glad I did. The performances stayed generally strong, though the FBI guy lapsed into a cartoon villain, Julia Garner went over-the-top occasionally, and I probably had more tolerance for Bateman than almost anybody else would. Prediction, not a spoiler: the Helen Mirren-like lawyer who is forever making reference to her shadowy client actually is the cartel (she was sinister at first--she's less good the more they try to soften her). I was wondering if there was going to be a third season; there is.

Not sure, but I think the first movie or TV show I've ever seen that used "Wichita Lineman." Fantastically, of course.

clemenza, Sunday, 25 November 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link

The lawyer was also on season 2 of Jessica Jones as more or less the same type of character. It's weird, I assumed they have used Wichita Lineman a lot in shows/movies but I can't think of any off the top of my head. So many versions probably make me think that.

Yerac, Sunday, 25 November 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link

six months pass...

I'm 3 eps into this and kinda debating whether or not to continue...indeed there are some intriguing & fun parts but it's kind of difficult to get past the overt similarities to Breaking Bad and moments like, y'know, the part where Bateman is about to kill himself, but his son just so happens to mention the Blue Cat Lodge, and how nobody goes there, blah blah blah, and he just happens to be at a crossroads, and look there's the Blue Cat Lodge...not to mention the gay FBI agent subplot...not to mention the lack of any interesting characters whatsoever (all I can see is Michael Bluth)...but still...its kinda alright? Does this show get better?

frogbs, Monday, 10 June 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link

nah not really
every episode I debate the same

kinder, Monday, 10 June 2019 20:58 (four years ago) link

it gets worse as it goes on, watch something else imo

forensic plumber (harbl), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 01:34 (four years ago) link

nine months pass...

I find it so hard to go back to these shows 18 months later (and I'm not going to rewatch the first two seasons). Season 3's up now; going into the first episode, all I really remembered was that Bateman and his family slithered out of some calamitous situation, and they decided to stay in the Ozarks and run the riverboat casino. So I'm watching, and I remember the family and Ruth and Darlene, but lots of people are missing: the old man who lived with them, the preacher, the gay FBI agent, Darlene's husband, etc. I remember Darlene's husband getting killed, and I think the old man died of natural causes, the others, I draw a blank. And I had no idea what was happening at the end of the first episode, as the Radiohead song played.

clemenza, Saturday, 28 March 2020 03:56 (four years ago) link

I came to this show late, so only watched seasons 1 and 2 a couple of months ago. Watched the season 3 premiere last night and enjoyed it basically just enough to keep going.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 28 March 2020 10:35 (four years ago) link

I have a feeling I will end up watching season three now. Damn you lockdown !

Ok. I think this show got laughably bad... But it won so many awards for the last season!

Yerac, Saturday, 28 March 2020 12:27 (four years ago) link

The lead actors probably deserve awards for pulling it all off with a straight face, but that is a surprise. Like unperson, I enjoy it in spite of itself.

clemenza, Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:14 (four years ago) link

Second episode was good!

That pre-credit sequence was just wow (and trying to figure out how it connected to anything just added to it). Wendy's brother looks like a great character. Laura Linney's "Okay" when he said Ruth was cute was priceless.

I'm still trying to piece together stuff I've forgotten. "Zeke? Oh yeah, I think remember something about that..." "Uh, Ruth and Helen clearly know each other..." I don't quite remember Ruth being quite so Andrew Dice Clay-ish the first two seasons.

It helps, as always, to turn your brain off. Wendy's scheme at the end is quite preposterous.

clemenza, Sunday, 29 March 2020 06:10 (four years ago) link

It's quite important that I stop overusing certain words.

clemenza, Sunday, 29 March 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link

I think my season three summary would be: Everyone's life gets progressively worse!

mh, Sunday, 29 March 2020 19:49 (four years ago) link

You watched the whole thing already?

clemenza, Sunday, 29 March 2020 19:54 (four years ago) link

No comment

(Yes)

mh, Sunday, 29 March 2020 19:55 (four years ago) link

I've liked the first three episodes enough that I expect I'll be finished in a few days. I will say that I'm surprised by Jason Bateman's direction (can't remember if he directed episodes previous to this season)--quite solid.

clemenza, Sunday, 29 March 2020 19:57 (four years ago) link

The plot with Wendy's brother becomes the source of much stress once you find out what's really going on

Agreed, his direction was good

mh, Sunday, 29 March 2020 19:58 (four years ago) link

Ben reminds me of Jason Lee in Almost Famous. The REO Speedwagon stuff in episode 3 cracked me up. "Are there any dentists out there?!"--right out of a Simpsons episode. The metal torture in episode 4 was a nice reference back to Noriega. Didn't find the scene in episode 4 where Maya visits Wendy at home all that credible (I mean even within the incredible world of the show). She's sharp enough that surely she must know Wendy's deeply involved in everything.

clemenza, Monday, 30 March 2020 04:01 (four years ago) link

One of the first concerts I saw as a kid was REO Speedwagon at a large outdoor event in 1991!

They might have had one of the shortest "few minor hits transitioning to playing primarily community events and conferences" careers.

I cracked up at "Hey, this guy is wondering if we could do some money laundering.." as if it was a normal ask for their booking

mh, Monday, 30 March 2020 14:42 (four years ago) link

Yeah, that was great. Deep somewhere in the Ozarks, no less.

clemenza, Monday, 30 March 2020 15:22 (four years ago) link

also shows how completely obvious "hey, we could have some of our employees run the merch booth.." and other questions are to anyone who has any idea about what money laundering looks like

mh, Monday, 30 March 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link

Episode 5: the guy Wendy goes to about intentionally losing money at the casino in exchange for a 6% kickback--I have no recollection whatsoever of who he is. Zero.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:21 (four years ago) link

Sue the therapist is a great character, so is the guy Wendy keeps calling, Damian Young from House of Cards.

clemenza, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 05:22 (four years ago) link

Who’s watchin OZARK..? I just started. This MFs got serious PROBLEMS. But he can Talk his Fn ass off!

— ICE T (@FINALLEVEL) April 2, 2020

mh, Thursday, 2 April 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link

Sue the therapist rolling up Goodfellas-style in her flashy new sports car killed me. "Mar-ty...trust the process."

So long, Sue.

clemenza, Friday, 3 April 2020 13:12 (four years ago) link

Helen Pierce is scary. (Ben's commitment was a bit much, though.)

clemenza, Saturday, 4 April 2020 02:14 (four years ago) link

The episode that starts with Ben's monologue in the taxi and ends him in the restaurant--first episode I didn't like at all. He was a great addition early on, by this point he's a simpering annoyance who gets way too much screen time. I wanted Mike Ehrmantraut to show up and say "Shut up, Ben" before plugging him.

clemenza, Saturday, 4 April 2020 16:04 (four years ago) link

"ends with him"

clemenza, Saturday, 4 April 2020 16:05 (four years ago) link

so what you're saying is his plot arc is becoming clear

mh, Saturday, 4 April 2020 18:46 (four years ago) link

Unfortunate spoiler typo...

clemenza, Saturday, 4 April 2020 18:48 (four years ago) link

For what it's worth--I'm sure you did too--it was easy to guess where the episode was heading halfway through in the light of how they present Wendy this season. She's well into Lady Macbeth territory by now.

clemenza, Saturday, 4 April 2020 18:59 (four years ago) link

"She wants me to meet her mom."

That ending to episode 10 was incredible.

clemenza, Sunday, 5 April 2020 01:40 (four years ago) link

I didn't even realize that was the season closer till I went to read up on it now...

clemenza, Sunday, 5 April 2020 01:44 (four years ago) link

I liked s3, which I didn't expect as I really didn't like the first series. The writing isn't great but it's not awful. I recently tried to watch the first series of Mexico Narcos and it was appalling, such cornball no-nuance 80s soap opera with a big budget For Blokes trash.

So now I'm looking for something else to fill that Sopranos-style hole - latest series of Mr Robot is waiting but I just know I'll spend the first 3 or 4 episodes utterly clueless as to what is going on (why can't production companies cobble together a 10 minute recap at the start of each new season? WHY?). S3 and 4 of Billions is there but I get the feeling it's going to take a turn for the ludicrous.

What else is there that I've missed? I'm waiting until next week before I binge the latest Better Call Saul, but have I missed any great well-written HBO/Netflix dramas in the crimey non-fantasy realm?

NI, Monday, 6 April 2020 13:36 (four years ago) link

Highly recommend the second season of Fargo--which, except for one connection (fascinating but not crucial) can be watched as a standalone, independent of the first season.

clemenza, Monday, 6 April 2020 13:45 (four years ago) link

S1 of The Sinner is good. Unbelievable is a fine one and doner.

Would like to anti-recommend Fargo.

brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Monday, 6 April 2020 13:51 (four years ago) link

oh, i like all seasons of Fargo.

Yerac, Monday, 6 April 2020 13:54 (four years ago) link

Will check The Sinner, thank you. Loved all of Fargo, really loved it

NI, Monday, 6 April 2020 13:58 (four years ago) link

I don't know if it's a consequence of being stuck inside so much but life on the Redneck Riviera seems pretty ideal.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 02:23 (four years ago) link

I've liked the first three episodes enough that I expect I'll be finished in a few days. I will say that I'm surprised by Jason Bateman's direction (can't remember if he directed episodes previous to this season)--quite solid.

He directed quite a few episodes of The Outsider and they were good too

groovypanda, Thursday, 9 April 2020 20:03 (four years ago) link

Feel like Ruth Langmore could give Logan Roy a run for his money in artistry in swearing.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 26 January 2022 22:13 (two years ago) link

She says something like "What the actual fucking fuck, Marty?" in E4. One guy I like is Wendy's behind-the-scenes political operative; the same guy played a behind-the-scenes tech operative in House of Cards. Both characters are shadowy and reptilian and seem to just appear out of nowhere.

clemenza, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 22:29 (two years ago) link

Yeah, he's good.

Ruth will never top "I don't know shit about fuck", but she's been good this season.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 26 January 2022 22:30 (two years ago) link

Yeah, he's good.

have always liked him popping up in things since his roles in a couple early hal hartley films. weird-good presence.

andrew m., Thursday, 27 January 2022 14:50 (two years ago) link

Interesting how the use of music has evolved in this show, from Bob Seger/REO SPeedwagon to Plastic Bertrand/Tribe Called Quest. With shows like this I find myself less interested in predicting the final scene than guessing what song will soundtrack it.

henry s, Thursday, 27 January 2022 15:18 (two years ago) link

Anyone else watching with the captions on? At the start of every scene: "[insects chirring]." A lot of chirring going on in the Ozarks.

Finished up last night. I get the feeling they're out of ideas and just trying to get to the finish line. New plot twists pretty much amount to "kill someone" every time.

clemenza, Friday, 28 January 2022 19:23 (two years ago) link

Kinda how I feel about Westworld. New plot twists = "was a robot all along."

I like how in the current season the various overlaps in the Byrde/Cartel/Snell/FBI circles are brought to the fore, family turning on family, etc. Very King Lear.

henry s, Friday, 28 January 2022 19:37 (two years ago) link

What the actual fucking fuck, Henry?

(Sorry, you're right--just wanted to say that to someone.)

clemenza, Friday, 28 January 2022 19:45 (two years ago) link

Wish someone would say that to me from time to time - really wakes you up!

henry s, Friday, 28 January 2022 19:50 (two years ago) link

Yeah I don't know about this season - the shifting circumstances and alliances became so convoluted that often all sense of the stakes were lost. Also I absolutely loved Julia Garner previously, but she sometimes tipped over into overacting in this one, particularly in the final ep. I still smashed the whole thing in under a week, mind.

chap, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 23:04 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Forgot this still had a half-season to go--resumes Friday.

clemenza, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

She’s back

hrep (H.P), Sunday, 1 May 2022 03:21 (one year ago) link

I've only watched the first episode, so maybe your comment looks ahead; I kept waiting for Helen to show up, with an explanation that her entire death was staged.

One thing I liked in a typically meandering episode (another long testimonial to how awful the Byrdes are--there's one every episode) was the scene where Ruth talked about Nas with the hip-hop guy she spotted in the restaurant.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 May 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

One thing I liked in a typically meandering episode (another long testimonial to how awful the Byrdes are--there's one every episode) was the scene where Ruth talked about Nas with the hip-hop guy she spotted in the restaurant.

That scene felt super cringey to me. (That was Killer Mike from Run The Jewels, btw.) I didn't really like the use of pretty much the entire Illmatic album in that episode either. Although it's rare that a character in any TV show is shown having specific taste in music.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 1 May 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

Missed that that was Killer Mike. Anyway, I liked it--I thought the two questions Ruth asked were pretty interesting.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 May 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

Still on the fence if s4 is worth my time

calstars, Sunday, 1 May 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

I'm not even sure if S1/2/3 were worth my time, but I'm still here.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 May 2022 21:28 (one year ago) link

Line I wish they'd included --

Killer Mike to Ruth: "You really have to cut down on the profanity."

clemenza, Monday, 2 May 2022 00:32 (one year ago) link

Lol Clemenza.

Finished it, both definitely not worth anyones time but also I enjoyed watching this? Like eating KFC, I know its bad before/during/after eating, but damn I’d probably do it all again.

Not stoked on the ending. Maybe I was too inattentive but I didn’t see the show pushing the “power wins everything” card harder than the “power will destroy you” card. To have the former be the key message in the last scene felt like an about face. Also, any illusion of Marty possessing humanity is destroyed, and that illusion was still very much real until that last scene. Disappointing, depressing, and (hopefully) distant from the truth of things.

hrep (H.P), Monday, 2 May 2022 00:45 (one year ago) link

Obviously the truth of things involves the Byrde story as presented to this point (power does cover a multitude of sins), but my understanding is that Byrde-like power always ends in immense failure/pain/loss (death comes for all, humbling the powerful more). Would have liked the show to acknowledge this rather than give the Byrde’s a victory lap and pat on the back.

hrep (H.P), Monday, 2 May 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link

The Killer Mike scene was Ruth daydreaming, right? Like (VERY MINOR SPOILER) the two coyotes she saw in the rv mirror right after, which then disappeared when she got out?

Mule, Monday, 2 May 2022 07:23 (one year ago) link

Interesting, hadn't even considered that. They did make it clear that the coyotes were fantasized, but I guess it's possible.

clemenza, Monday, 2 May 2022 12:29 (one year ago) link

they draw the line at election fraud! lol

andrew m., Monday, 2 May 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

I was thinking today that the only time I've seen a TV show use a single artist the way Nas was used in E8 is a great Freaks and Geeks episode that had three or four different Who songs.

clemenza, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 03:11 (one year ago) link

I don't mind what they were going for with the ending from a character perspective honestly, but I felt that the events themselves were a bit anticlimactic. As did many I guess. Something even old fashioned about Ruth's final scene in particular, with Camila walking out from behind a random tree and Ruth being all "whelp the jigs up, ya caught me fair and square, just answer me this see, how did you find out whodunit?". I feel like if they had a draft of the script where Ruth gets into something more intense regarding Camilla... a chase or a fight or something etc. that would trigger shit hitting the fan this would have been a better payoff. As the party was getting into full swing and everything was going well and they were all talking optimistically about the future, it felt as if they were setting things up, overtly telegraphing even, an inevitable shit-fan-hitting. The fact that everything held together (aside from the Langmore curse delivering its ultimate punishment) seemed like the writer's way of "subverting expectations" or something?

Evan, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

Finally finished. A lot of the time, as often happens with me in S4s and beyond lately, I'd lost the plot. Things like the Foundation, or the urgency near the end of laundering money through--and only through--the casino, these things had long since lost meaning.

One good thing: in the final episode, I actually cared about the fate of Ruth. In this big convoluted mess, there was a character I cared about. And I liked "They Reminisce Over You" in the car just before she got to where she was going. How I thought that'd end: Camila admires that Ruth did the right thing by her family, and lets her go, maybe even enlists her for the cartel. I was looking for a storybook cartel ending--that's how I think.

As for the actual ending, standard Godfather stuff. It was okay

clemenza, Thursday, 12 May 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

Wendy got off one great line to that guy Sam (the purpose of whom I never quite figured out): "I'm sure she'll be willing to teach you a lot of things."

clemenza, Friday, 13 May 2022 03:54 (one year ago) link

The ending was, fine, whatever. I've spent time with worse shows and Ruth was a joy to watch to the end.

I only have really two complaints about it:
1. The Camila/Ruth resolution was fine but way, way, way too rushed. Oh look, here's Clare Shaw to conveniently spill the beans at the most opportune moment!

2. Worse for me was the whole framing of the Byrde's car wreck. I get that they were going for a Gilligan-verse style flash forward thing, but holy shit was that pointless. Build up to a car crash that everyone walks away from without a scratch and is never referenced again, not even by the next scene, and had absolutely zero narrative implications. Just terrible and really soured me on the finale.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 13 May 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

Shit! Why did that not work? Mods?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 13 May 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

You need individual spoiler tags for each paragraph.

castanuts (DJP), Friday, 13 May 2022 18:33 (one year ago) link

I watched s3 and the first half of this season + the finale and my primary takeaway from the show is that everyone is awful, everyone is bad and not part of your team

castanuts (DJP), Friday, 13 May 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

Glad you mentioned the car wreck--yes, totally pointless. (Had actually forgotten all about it by the time it happened.)

clemenza, Friday, 13 May 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

Everyone's behavior is so arbitrary and in service of generating more misery, it's a somewhat fascinating exercise in how much contempt you are willing to endure from your entertainment

castanuts (DJP), Friday, 13 May 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

And--basically the same point--too cynical by half: make sure that the two characters who seemed decent, Ruth and the detective, get punished, and use all the bad people in service of the Godfather ending (Wendy's last line + Jonah = Michael Corleone).

clemenza, Friday, 13 May 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

lol this last season (and especially the last half of it) was such a slog, I had to force myself to watch an episode every couple of days just to get it over with. clemenza OTM that all of the big plot points lost all meaning and it just felt like an arbitrary series of events that I could not invest anything in no matter how hard I tried. I could be mistaken but I feel like Wendy actually started out as a pretty smart and crafty Claire Underwood type in the first season or 2 but imo her feud w Jonah was a real shark-jumping moment for me, she made soooo many stupid rash impulse decisions at odds w like any sort of long-term goal achievement. also watching her turn on her like stammery charismatic manipulator voice with ppl grew v v tiresome. the final scene was incredibly disappointing, I truly wished the Byrdes had just fuckin died tbh, or at least some of them. For a second I actually thought they'd be daring enough to go there, shame on me.

music for A★TEENS’ musicians (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 3 July 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

I thought Wendy early on was a lot like Skyler in the first two or three seasons of Breaking Bad: she seemed to be rational and moral, trying to hold the family together in the face of stuff she was trying to figure out. Skyler wavered some for the rest of the show's run; Wendy just got silly.

clemenza, Sunday, 3 July 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Rewatching--insane comfort viewing...Missed this the first time around; S2, E6, played by Rachel off a jukebox.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj71uB2j9gE

Can't seem to pin down the date--sometime between '66 to '73 is the best I can do (Bear Family compilation).

clemenza, Saturday, 16 March 2024 22:23 (one month ago) link

I'm generally hyper-attentive to how pop music is used in movies and on TV, but for some reason I didn't make mention of this above--ending of season 2, fantastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZGfbmHapLw

clemenza, Monday, 18 March 2024 02:13 (one month ago) link

epic show

Laura Linney

Swen, Monday, 18 March 2024 07:19 (one month ago) link

Love when she swears, she is the best swearer

brimstead, Monday, 18 March 2024 15:07 (one month ago) link

I looked into "Drip Drop," the Dion song in the clip above (I have a Belmonts compilation, but not one covering Dion's solo work, so it was new to me). It's a Drifters cover--that is on a compilation I have, but it's not anything I took notice of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIquZiOho14

Dion's:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew22aJV3iNU

It doesn't usually work this way, but I like Dion's version better.

clemenza, Monday, 18 March 2024 15:55 (one month ago) link

agreed that Laura can swear with the best of em

Swen, Monday, 18 March 2024 23:55 (one month ago) link

I assumed you meant Ruth "Dice" Langmore.

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 01:17 (one month ago) link

I wrote a bit about her above, but Sue the therapist ("She was a good listener"--Nelson) has got to be one of the funniest-weirdest incidental characters I can think of in a series like this. Marty's expression here says it all.

https://i.postimg.cc/FHprZ2S2/sue.jpg

clemenza, Sunday, 24 March 2024 17:40 (four weeks ago) link

A scene, by the way, that basically reprises this one from Goodfellas.

https://i.postimg.cc/8P1XSn0C/coat.jpg

clemenza, Sunday, 24 March 2024 18:20 (four weeks ago) link

“What’d I tell you, huh? What did I say?”

calstars, Sunday, 24 March 2024 18:29 (four weeks ago) link

Marty: What's this?

Sue: It's a car.

Marty: It's a Transformer, and I spoke to you about conspicuous spending. Send this back.

Sue: Now, see, Marty, that's your problem.

clemenza, Sunday, 24 March 2024 19:32 (four weeks ago) link

Checked above, and my reaction to S3 was same as the first time: really strong through the first eight or nine episodes, then Ben, Wendy's brother, turns into a basket case and the show stops dead (not recovering until the incredible last scene). Ben's monologue in the cab is interminable and really over-the-top in mannered acting.

Something I find implausible (Ozark is a very realistic show, and I found something implausible): that this powerful, terrifying drug cartel is so preoccupied with the comings and goings of the Byrde family.

clemenza, Monday, 25 March 2024 13:45 (four weeks ago) link

Another pop song I didn't mention first time around--weird, because it's one of my faovurite songs ever. (Wendy: "This song sucks, by the way"--and Laura Linney directed the episode!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cbaa8t5jrk

Ozark is the third series where I've picked up on a recurring line that turns up again and again. In Friday Night Lights it's "all right," which can mean a whole bunch of different things depending upon context (skepticism, impatience to end the conversation, etc.) In Mad Men it's "That's true," usually said with a wry smile--a counter to all the stuff people say in Mad Men that isn't true. In Ozark it's not words but "hmmmn." Often skeptical or sarcastic, sometimes intrigued, sometimes just processing.

clemenza, Monday, 1 April 2024 14:14 (three weeks ago) link

I enjoy this show but it must be maximum blue filter

calstars, Monday, 1 April 2024 15:55 (three weeks ago) link


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