Redd's Roster of Crosswordese: Do not read if you hate DRNO

I guess what is meant is Wordplay:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/crosswords/daily-puzzle-2020-07-19.html

I always thought the 82A between courses things was French. It's not common here but it's a good idea and I welcome it when I chance across it.

I get that palette was plainly an error. As the tired stock clerk at the art supply once said, "I can't palate another pallet of pallettes!"

But the culinary practice is right in the dictionary definition

SPOILER ALERT

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sorbet

Haven't done today's puzzle- yet! Meanwhile, back to the original purpose of this thread
DELE PELE TELE UELE

Also I see there is something called the Universal Crossword on Amy R's blog. Not sure what that is but the one I just tried was not bad.

BAST HAST OAST NAST

Maybe people hate XWORDESE because every piece of such they haven't committed to their already extensive Rolodex of such slows down their speed solving a microsecond and gives the advantage to the competitition with an even more extensive internal database?

OFAN OLAN OMAN ONAN ORAN
and, real old school
OBAN.

OBI
EMS and ENS

Speaking of LOA/KEA, I just died on the peak of OSSA/ETNA

Have I ever told you the full jeremaid of my dabbling in competitive speed solving and subsequent burnout? If not, would you like to know?

Aargh,there's no MAID in JEREMIAD, sorry (the latter of which appeared in a lucky seven Maleska puzzles, but not since)

I want you to tell us the story James Redd. Of how you flew too close to THESUN.

Heh, exactly, those SUN puzzles were my favorites for a while.

Also, Auden's poem about Breughel's Icarus or the painting itself often seem to come up in Learned League

is my weather being borked by EL NIÑO or LA NIÑA

IDUNNO might ASWELL THROW DARTS ATA BOARD

Okay, finished the NYT and the rest of today's puzzles and am reading the blog post at Wordplay now. Really like this blogger, Caitlin Lovinger, who I had never heard of until today. My solve experience was very similar to hers.

ABUT
ATOP
ABED

Exactly

I didn't know there were pictures of some of these people: https://www.xwordinfo.com/Cards?select=topcons

ALBA ALMA ALVA ELBA

Not to mention
ELLA OLLA ELEA

My times for today's puzzles were awful by my old standards. Did tomorrow's in 3:46 which is not competitive but okay for me.

Trying to turn my rise and fall in competitive solving into some kind of Behind The Music saga but it ain’t happening.

Nutshell comes back to: slowly got hooked on competitive solving, despite my wariness of it, did lots of puzzles got somewhat faster every year until one year I finished 77th, then the next year my friend stopped going with me to the tournament, my rank dropped, couldn't go to the next year's tournament because my daughter had a concert that weekendl and in the end got so burned out anyway that I couldn't even enjoy non-speed solving anymore, the thrill was gone. Still liked doing cryptics though, although hadn't done too many recently. Just did Patrick Berry's easy one in The New Yorker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWN-adiDNtM

got kinda bogged down by today’s Sunday NYT - cluing just vague enough throughout that I kept putting in wrong answers. theme was whatever. i really need to fill my days with other puzzles.

Jeff Chen’s rundown gives a little history of that type of theme.

The last Across answer in today's New Yorker crossword is DRNO

:)

So is this the new default cruciverbalist thread? If so, kudos to redd

there's another Crossword Puzzle Thread

I thought the other was the default thread, I just started this thread for the xwordese.

Why is it so bad and hated?

S
M
E R I N
E

yeah, fuck that

My heart briefly leapt that they might've meant Cork.

what are some abandoned crosswordese words? i heard that before will shortz became nyt xword editor, INEE was common fill.

Good question

struggling to work out a clue for that...

Arrow poison
Curare cousin

wow. okay

Did you think maybe it had something to do with bellybuttons?

that would be INNIE surely...

"Celebes wild ox = ENOA" was the one that made my mother stop doing crosswords entirely. She never went back.

I have a friend who got so infuriated by ERN / ERNE that she canceled her NYT subscription (back when that meant something). To this day, she's like "Don't get me started on the fucking sea eagles."

I still see it from time to time, but nowhere near the frequency it appeared in its heyday.

Also seeing some drop-off on appearances of OLEO and ALOU.

SST seems unkillable, decades after the last Concorde flight.

ERN/ERNE still getting used quite a bit these days - and don't sleep on TERN either!- although, yeah, not nearly as frequently as in the pre-WS era.

Last week saw LALAW raise its head above the parapet; they haven't given up that white upper-middle-class touchstone. Nor its inevitable cousin, DEY.

Two classics! B-b-but what about their bicoastal cousin, ESAI Morales?

ERN and ERNE each have more than 100 references in the WSE but about 500 each in the BWSE.

ALER and NLER became rare after this blog post: https://devilcross.com/2014/10/15/fill-that-must-die-alers-nlers/

wild ox is ANOA lol that's a terrible word