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My first time on this year; would love a place to kibbitz on prior days questions and brag and bitch.
I'm 3-0 but I'm chalking that up to beginner's luck and a rookie rundle.
how about you?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 22 February 2020 20:19 (one month ago) link

Riding the bottom of A babee. Did we not have a thread already?

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Saturday, 22 February 2020 20:19 (one month ago) link

nope.

this is really making me use some muscles that have long been neglected. I've always prided myself on fast reference google-fu. LL is just about information that you've been exposed to or otherwise can puzzle out from your memory. You don't generally seem to be able to "figure out" clues logically or utilize your skillset to uncover information... you just have to remember it! I'm approaching it where I read the questions late night, answer whatever i know immediately and sleep on the rest till the morning and that seems to help a bit.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 22 February 2020 20:24 (one month ago) link

Oh hey! I remember James Redd and the Blecchs and I talked about starting a LL thread on ILX a few years ago, but we clearly never got around to it.

I'm 1-2-0 so far this season in A Keystone.

jaymc, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:31 (one month ago) link

I occasionally post on the LL message board, too.

jaymc, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:31 (one month ago) link

You don't generally seem to be able to "figure out" clues logically or utilize your skillset to uncover information... you just have to remember it!

I don't actually think this is true! I don't know that the first few questions this season have necessarily been representative, but one of the things I like about LL is that you often can puzzle things out if you read the question closely.

Actually, the Vaseline question from the other day might be a good example of this. I'd never heard of the Chesebrough Manufacturing Company, but I kept focusing on "Titusville, Pennsylvania" and thought, is it related to the coal industry? If I'd thought harder, I might have landed on oil instead, which could conceivably have led me to petroleum jelly. (It didn't happen, but it could have!)

jaymc, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:40 (one month ago) link

You're right, though, that a fair amount is dredging stuff up from memory. I always read the questions when I wake up in the morning and then usually let them rattle around my noggin for a while before submitting answers. Sometimes an answer will come to the surface in the interim. For instance, one time, on my way to work, I suddenly and inexplicably recalled the name Zamfir.

jaymc, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:45 (one month ago) link

Anyway I never use my invites so hmu ilxors. Word is league growth will be capped eventually at which point I guess it becomes one in one out, so get in while getting is good.

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:58 (one month ago) link

Baffling

or something, Sunday, 23 February 2020 00:54 (one month ago) link

for the confused:
https://learnedleague.com/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 23 February 2020 14:22 (one month ago) link

Thanks

or something, Sunday, 23 February 2020 15:36 (one month ago) link

3 of 6 correct today, 2 that i kinda thought i coulda got right and 1 that was just no chance at all

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 February 2020 06:44 (one month ago) link

Hey don’t post about questions until the results are in, even obliquely! You don’t know who’s submitted yet.

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 24 February 2020 06:58 (one month ago) link

well sure, but how is saying what i think i got right by the numbers revealing anything?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 February 2020 12:49 (one month ago) link

I’m sure there is some ruling from the Commissioner on this on the site, pro or con.

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 February 2020 13:57 (one month ago) link

i challenge jaymc to 'smith' a one-day about ilx

mookieproof, Monday, 24 February 2020 14:00 (one month ago) link

forks if I were to know you intimately I could derive third-order insight into the answers by analyzing how well you thought you did, imo. Best to avoid even the appearance of etc.

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:26 (one month ago) link

Makes sense

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:32 (one month ago) link

i've been doing learned league for a few years on an invite from jaymc. i'm in C rundle, which seems to be about right since i almost always end up right in the middle of the rankings at the end of each season. i've had a strong start to this season so far but i'm sure i'll hit a rut and end up back in the middle again.

my ongoing minor issue with the main learned league is the "classical music" category, which seems very specific for a stand-alone category (that i suck at). i wish they just had a "music" category that spanned all genres.

na (NA), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:34 (one month ago) link

silby OTM about not posting *anything* about a Match Day until it's over

jaymc, Monday, 24 February 2020 15:45 (one month ago) link

U guys are playing 3D chess but whatever works is fine. Meet you back here at 1 in the morning to discuss.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:51 (one month ago) link

I can't immediately find anything from the Commissioner about this, though it is a widely accepted norm within the LL community. On the LL board, whenever anyone posts even the most innocuous thing about a question while the Match Day is live, the post gets deleted.

Also, here's someone in a Learned League thread on the Jeopardy! message board:

With the new season and new players, it is a good time to remind everyone of the rule about discussing matches on this board. Please do not make any comment about the questions until that day's results have been posted on the LL board. Do not say how many you got right or wrong. Do not say if you thought they were hard or easy. Just do not say anything at all about the questions until the LL day has ended and the next day's questions are up.

As extreme as it may seem, I think it makes sense to stick with that rule here, too.

jaymc, Monday, 24 February 2020 16:14 (one month ago) link

Oh, it's also in WestJ's LL84 welcome post:

Please remember, do not post anything here or elsewhere about any LL questions while a match day is underway. Not with a spoiler warning, not with oblique references, not asking if a question has an error in it, not anything. Period.

jaymc, Monday, 24 February 2020 17:05 (one month ago) link

Well it's tomorrow now and I can reveal the secret that a plurality LL'ers are not fans of Bhad Bhabie

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:47 (one month ago) link

Haha. That was actually my route in, and I almost thought the answer was "Bad" until I remembered that "Suge" was the name of a song by Da Baby.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:49 (one month ago) link

I lost 8(5)-7(5). Always disappointing to get the same number of questions right but lose on defense.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:53 (one month ago) link

I am averaging about three right per game, but in the rookie league with some judicious defense, that seems to be enough to stay fairly competitive.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 16:36 (one month ago) link

damn i almost missed this thread. u can find me having terrible defense to start, i'm 2-2 :/ i'm usually decent on defense? but i have been getting steadily worse somehow season over season. idk why.

also there was a thread but like a fool i smushed the words together LearnedLeague - any iLLx0rs out there?

i was gonna give a cryptic clue to my name since i don't like saying it on here (i mean i guess it's already too late to run for office due to my history on this site, i would guess) but then i realized i put it in the other thread so go look there!

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 20:42 (one month ago) link

also yes i haven't used an invite in ages so if anyone needs, hit silby up and then hit me up

and i 100% got that q yesterday on account of bhad bhabie (almost went with lil on account of yes indeed, until i read closer lol) (also i feel like lil was a question super recently???)

and yeah esp if this is a public board, no talk on today's results is always a good move. also no talking abt the random comedians u found and you're like "wow no way they're just like me!" and you sometimes check in to see what they got. its bad form

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 20:47 (one month ago) link

Completely new to this, but really like the idea. It seems like it's too late to join this season--is that correct?

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 21:01 (one month ago) link

yeah you have to join in between seasons

na (NA), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 21:08 (one month ago) link

or you might be able to join but you wouldn't be able to play this season.

na (NA), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 21:08 (one month ago) link

also no talking abt the random comedians u found and you're like "wow no way they're just like me!" and you sometimes check in to see what they got. its bad form

What about high-ranking White House officials

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:35 (one month ago) link

I too would like to join! Will M, silby, or any other kind ilxor have a spare invite?

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:39 (one month ago) link

theo von is a beast at learned league guys

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:42 (one month ago) link

Oh wait $30 for membership, gotta think about this.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:44 (one month ago) link

What about high-ranking White House officials

Actually, I am going to answer my own post and note that the Commish has laid down the law about this, so I am going to respect that decision, but I still find the whole thing amazing sometimes.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:44 (one month ago) link

@Leee: You only have to pay after you've completed a full rookie season, so you can try it out and decide if you like it. I have plenty of invites to spare, too.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:46 (one month ago) link

can one of you kind individuals send me an invite, please? ilx webmail reaches me :)

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:47 (one month ago) link

Ah ok, that sounds reasonable. You can ilx mail me, and thanks!

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:51 (one month ago) link

Suge was one of the year’s biggest rap hits; surprised that didn’t give away that clue. I guess people aren’t much listening to that world unless they are specialists.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:19 (one month ago) link

the 30 also covers a full year, which is i believe 3 or 4 seasons, so if you like the first season you're not paying too much to keep going!

i don't see where to send invites tho, is it possible to do so during the season or do we have to wait a month?

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:42 (one month ago) link

also if we have this many ppl i am definitely thinking ilxor private rundle next go around

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:42 (one month ago) link

Okay, I just looked, and you can only give out 1 invite per season (unless you are a Premier or Commissioner's Circle member). Pretty sure there were more at one point, but I don't blame Thorsten for wanting to put some controls on growth.

I'll give mine to you, Leee, since we've actually met IRL!

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:47 (one month ago) link

Oh, and Will, the referral page is here:
https://www.learnedleague.com/thorsten/referral.php

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:48 (one month ago) link

if my quick scan is right, leee, unctious, and jim want invites? and jaymc has leee? so i will send one to Unc & someone else get jim? (lmk if i missed any. i am so tired rn)

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 04:38 (one month ago) link

Unc contacted me, I will take care of ‘em

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 04:42 (one month ago) link

ok jim i'll send you a message then!

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 04:47 (one month ago) link

Why the low get rate on Q4 yesterday, Charles Pathé? This was the flaw in my defense, since I thought everybody must know this, especially an opponent with .761 in Film so assigned it a zero, allowing him to tie me 4(4)-4(3). Note: really don’t care that much, long ago gave up agonizing on defense, valuing speed over accuracy, having long ago settled down into C Rundle, most of my enjoyment now coming from the occasional 1DS or ML.

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 10:20 (one month ago) link

Was wondering how well Irving Berlin was known.

Lipstick Traces (on a Cigarette Alone) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 March 2020 22:56 (one month ago) link

this is why my defense sucks, i guess

mookieproof, Saturday, 7 March 2020 23:04 (one month ago) link

Defense is overrated.

Lipstick Traces (on a Cigarette Alone) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 March 2020 23:18 (one month ago) link

had no idea on the mitford but no worries with irving berlin

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 7 March 2020 23:30 (one month ago) link

I knew Mitfords would play hard. (Honestly, I'm not sure I would've known it if I hadn't recently learned that both of them wrote for my former employer.) Unfortunately, my opponent was British, which I figured gave him an advantage on both that question and the Fleabag one. He drank the beer; I missed Cootie.

jaymc, Sunday, 8 March 2020 03:41 (one month ago) link

I feel like you could write a much harder Irving Berlin question by not mentioning "God Bless America" and "White Christmas." Like if those were replaced with "Puttin' on the Ritz" and "There's No Business Like Show Business," which are still fairly widely known songs but not (I don't think) as closely associated with Berlin.

jaymc, Sunday, 8 March 2020 03:48 (one month ago) link

i should probably already have gotten this, what does "drank the beer" mean?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 8 March 2020 03:49 (one month ago) link

Got all six answers correctly

Lipstick Traces (on a Cigarette Alone) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 March 2020 03:53 (one month ago) link

Learned League lingo for going 6-for-6 (i.e., a six-pack). See the glossary.

jaymc, Sunday, 8 March 2020 03:54 (one month ago) link

ah! i live in hope!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 8 March 2020 03:54 (one month ago) link

Aargh, don’t like the way I worded that

Lipstick Traces (on a Cigarette Alone) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 March 2020 03:54 (one month ago) link

Just checked my stats, and I hit a 9(6) 9.4% of the time, so about twice per season. Not yet this season, though.

jaymc, Sunday, 8 March 2020 03:58 (one month ago) link

anybody on this thread got a six yet?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 8 March 2020 04:33 (one month ago) link

"drank the beer"

embarrassed to be involved with this

mookieproof, Sunday, 8 March 2020 05:04 (one month ago) link

anybody on this thread got a six yet?

days 9 and 10 this season so far for me

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Sunday, 8 March 2020 05:40 (one month ago) link

embarrassed to be involved with this

― mookieproof, Saturday, March 7, 2020 11:04 PM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Not as embarrassing as the Best Wrong Answers crowd

jaymc, Sunday, 8 March 2020 05:45 (one month ago) link

Otm, unfortunately. Stopped participating in that long ago. Seem to recall that a friend of ours started thread about that on LL message board.

Lipstick Traces (on a Cigarette Alone) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 March 2020 12:50 (one month ago) link

i got a 9(6) on match day 6

maura, Sunday, 8 March 2020 15:42 (one month ago) link

home movies forever

maura, Sunday, 8 March 2020 15:42 (one month ago) link

see i thought "Space" but apparently SG: CtC wasn't adult swim yet

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:14 (one month ago) link

also hey maura!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:14 (one month ago) link

hah, I said "Coast"

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:17 (one month ago) link

I love Best Wrong Answers and I will not apologize

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:23 (one month ago) link

(But I never go for BWA myself because I'm too competitive and if I can think of something I think has even a 1% chance of being right I put that)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:23 (one month ago) link

same

maura, Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:38 (one month ago) link

Finally got my first 9(6) of the season, although I arguably shouldn't have been credited for "taro" instead of "toro."

jaymc, Friday, 13 March 2020 12:14 (four weeks ago) link

(But I never go for BWA myself because I'm too competitive and if I can think of something I think has even a 1% chance of being right I put that)

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, March 8, 2020 12:23 PM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Same for me, too.

I find the Commissioner-selected BWAs mostly amusing. What I roll my eyes at is the thread of people bragging about their horribly formed jokes and saying "No love from the Commish??"

jaymc, Friday, 13 March 2020 12:17 (four weeks ago) link

hell yes i got a musical right

mookieproof, Friday, 13 March 2020 14:42 (four weeks ago) link

did anyone guess CO-OP?

jaymc, Friday, 13 March 2020 14:58 (four weeks ago) link

Not me. Annoyed at myself for putting “A Chorus Line.”

Lipstick Traces (on a Cigarette Alone) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 March 2020 15:09 (four weeks ago) link

Hm, Company is currently, or was, I guess it’s dark right now due to the disease, running on Broadway.

Lipstick Traces (on a Cigarette Alone) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 March 2020 15:12 (four weeks ago) link

I should probably adopt the all-caps title convention as used by jaymc and others.

Lipstick Traces (on a Cigarette Alone) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 March 2020 15:14 (four weeks ago) link

did anyone guess CO-OP?

― jaymc, Friday, March 13, 2020 9:58 AM (fifty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ha, someone did: https://learnedleague.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&p=172400#p172381

jaymc, Friday, 13 March 2020 15:55 (four weeks ago) link

5 out of 6, went Utopianism instead of Transcendentalism

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 13 March 2020 16:59 (four weeks ago) link

company was also crucial to MARRIAGE STORY

maura, Friday, 13 March 2020 17:03 (four weeks ago) link

Finally got my first 9(6) of the season, although I arguably shouldn't have been credited for "taro" instead of "toro."

As someone who got "toro" I too object to you getting credit for this

What, I said I was competitive

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 13 March 2020 17:14 (four weeks ago) link

tbf, taro is a root not a tuna belly

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 13 March 2020 17:50 (four weeks ago) link

i am, in a purely unearned stroke of amazing luck (61 out of 120 correct answers versus 33 correct answers and 1.27 points allowed per correct answer), first in my rookie rundle which has me inordinately excited.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 18:35 (three weeks ago) link

the degree of pride i had for getting the Cliff Hangers question right is just embarrassing

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 18:37 (three weeks ago) link

Ha, I was totally stumped on that one. Nice work on 1st place!

jaymc, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 19:53 (three weeks ago) link

thanks! i have taken to letting things percolate A LOT longer than i would've thought i needed to and my subconscious pieces answers together over the day much more effectively than i could have thought. "Gulf of Tonkin" took two hours but popped out when I was brushing my teeth.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 20:02 (three weeks ago) link

okay, how'd you place?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 05:48 (two weeks ago) link

right in the middle of the pack. all i really wanted tbh.

maura, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:27 (two weeks ago) link

same

na (NA), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 14:03 (two weeks ago) link

ninth, although i should have been a bit lower. weirdly, i beat each of the 2-8 finishers

mookieproof, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 14:29 (two weeks ago) link

terrible, 25th of 26! Brutal season. Will be bounced out of A Rundle for the first time in 3 years.

silby, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 15:31 (two weeks ago) link

Middle of the rundle, with a record of 10-12-3. That's par for the course for me: my career line is 294-302-104. As long as it keeps me in A, I'm happy. I'm also pleased whenever I hit 100+ correct answers in the season, and I got 103 this time.

jaymc, Friday, 27 March 2020 03:39 (two weeks ago) link

I won my rookie rundle btw! Pure luck. Level B is gonna kick my ass.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 27 March 2020 05:04 (two weeks ago) link

Excited for the One-Days tomorrow on Steely Dan and Tiki Culture.

jaymc, Friday, 27 March 2020 12:21 (two weeks ago) link

anybody else doing world cuisine?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 17:54 (one week ago) link


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