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My first time on this year; would love a place to kibbitz on prior days questions and brag and bitch.
I'm 3-0 but I'm chalking that up to beginner's luck and a rookie rundle.
how about you?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 22 February 2020 20:19 (nine months ago) link

Riding the bottom of A babee. Did we not have a thread already?

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Saturday, 22 February 2020 20:19 (nine months ago) link

nope.

this is really making me use some muscles that have long been neglected. I've always prided myself on fast reference google-fu. LL is just about information that you've been exposed to or otherwise can puzzle out from your memory. You don't generally seem to be able to "figure out" clues logically or utilize your skillset to uncover information... you just have to remember it! I'm approaching it where I read the questions late night, answer whatever i know immediately and sleep on the rest till the morning and that seems to help a bit.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 22 February 2020 20:24 (nine months ago) link

Oh hey! I remember James Redd and the Blecchs and I talked about starting a LL thread on ILX a few years ago, but we clearly never got around to it.

I'm 1-2-0 so far this season in A Keystone.

jaymc, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:31 (nine months ago) link

I occasionally post on the LL message board, too.

jaymc, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:31 (nine months ago) link

You don't generally seem to be able to "figure out" clues logically or utilize your skillset to uncover information... you just have to remember it!

I don't actually think this is true! I don't know that the first few questions this season have necessarily been representative, but one of the things I like about LL is that you often can puzzle things out if you read the question closely.

Actually, the Vaseline question from the other day might be a good example of this. I'd never heard of the Chesebrough Manufacturing Company, but I kept focusing on "Titusville, Pennsylvania" and thought, is it related to the coal industry? If I'd thought harder, I might have landed on oil instead, which could conceivably have led me to petroleum jelly. (It didn't happen, but it could have!)

jaymc, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:40 (nine months ago) link

You're right, though, that a fair amount is dredging stuff up from memory. I always read the questions when I wake up in the morning and then usually let them rattle around my noggin for a while before submitting answers. Sometimes an answer will come to the surface in the interim. For instance, one time, on my way to work, I suddenly and inexplicably recalled the name Zamfir.

jaymc, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:45 (nine months ago) link

Anyway I never use my invites so hmu ilxors. Word is league growth will be capped eventually at which point I guess it becomes one in one out, so get in while getting is good.

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:58 (nine months ago) link

Baffling

or something, Sunday, 23 February 2020 00:54 (nine months ago) link

for the confused:
https://learnedleague.com/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 23 February 2020 14:22 (nine months ago) link

Thanks

or something, Sunday, 23 February 2020 15:36 (nine months ago) link

3 of 6 correct today, 2 that i kinda thought i coulda got right and 1 that was just no chance at all

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 February 2020 06:44 (nine months ago) link

Hey don’t post about questions until the results are in, even obliquely! You don’t know who’s submitted yet.

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 24 February 2020 06:58 (nine months ago) link

well sure, but how is saying what i think i got right by the numbers revealing anything?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 February 2020 12:49 (nine months ago) link

I’m sure there is some ruling from the Commissioner on this on the site, pro or con.

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 February 2020 13:57 (nine months ago) link

i challenge jaymc to 'smith' a one-day about ilx

mookieproof, Monday, 24 February 2020 14:00 (nine months ago) link

forks if I were to know you intimately I could derive third-order insight into the answers by analyzing how well you thought you did, imo. Best to avoid even the appearance of etc.

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:26 (nine months ago) link

Makes sense

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:32 (nine months ago) link

i've been doing learned league for a few years on an invite from jaymc. i'm in C rundle, which seems to be about right since i almost always end up right in the middle of the rankings at the end of each season. i've had a strong start to this season so far but i'm sure i'll hit a rut and end up back in the middle again.

my ongoing minor issue with the main learned league is the "classical music" category, which seems very specific for a stand-alone category (that i suck at). i wish they just had a "music" category that spanned all genres.

na (NA), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:34 (nine months ago) link

silby OTM about not posting *anything* about a Match Day until it's over

jaymc, Monday, 24 February 2020 15:45 (nine months ago) link

U guys are playing 3D chess but whatever works is fine. Meet you back here at 1 in the morning to discuss.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:51 (nine months ago) link

I can't immediately find anything from the Commissioner about this, though it is a widely accepted norm within the LL community. On the LL board, whenever anyone posts even the most innocuous thing about a question while the Match Day is live, the post gets deleted.

Also, here's someone in a Learned League thread on the Jeopardy! message board:

With the new season and new players, it is a good time to remind everyone of the rule about discussing matches on this board. Please do not make any comment about the questions until that day's results have been posted on the LL board. Do not say how many you got right or wrong. Do not say if you thought they were hard or easy. Just do not say anything at all about the questions until the LL day has ended and the next day's questions are up.

As extreme as it may seem, I think it makes sense to stick with that rule here, too.

jaymc, Monday, 24 February 2020 16:14 (nine months ago) link

Oh, it's also in WestJ's LL84 welcome post:

Please remember, do not post anything here or elsewhere about any LL questions while a match day is underway. Not with a spoiler warning, not with oblique references, not asking if a question has an error in it, not anything. Period.

jaymc, Monday, 24 February 2020 17:05 (nine months ago) link

Well it's tomorrow now and I can reveal the secret that a plurality LL'ers are not fans of Bhad Bhabie

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:47 (nine months ago) link

Haha. That was actually my route in, and I almost thought the answer was "Bad" until I remembered that "Suge" was the name of a song by Da Baby.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:49 (nine months ago) link

I lost 8(5)-7(5). Always disappointing to get the same number of questions right but lose on defense.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:53 (nine months ago) link

I am averaging about three right per game, but in the rookie league with some judicious defense, that seems to be enough to stay fairly competitive.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 16:36 (nine months ago) link

damn i almost missed this thread. u can find me having terrible defense to start, i'm 2-2 :/ i'm usually decent on defense? but i have been getting steadily worse somehow season over season. idk why.

also there was a thread but like a fool i smushed the words together LearnedLeague - any iLLx0rs out there?

i was gonna give a cryptic clue to my name since i don't like saying it on here (i mean i guess it's already too late to run for office due to my history on this site, i would guess) but then i realized i put it in the other thread so go look there!

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 20:42 (nine months ago) link

also yes i haven't used an invite in ages so if anyone needs, hit silby up and then hit me up

and i 100% got that q yesterday on account of bhad bhabie (almost went with lil on account of yes indeed, until i read closer lol) (also i feel like lil was a question super recently???)

and yeah esp if this is a public board, no talk on today's results is always a good move. also no talking abt the random comedians u found and you're like "wow no way they're just like me!" and you sometimes check in to see what they got. its bad form

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 20:47 (nine months ago) link

Completely new to this, but really like the idea. It seems like it's too late to join this season--is that correct?

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 21:01 (nine months ago) link

yeah you have to join in between seasons

na (NA), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 21:08 (nine months ago) link

or you might be able to join but you wouldn't be able to play this season.

na (NA), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 21:08 (nine months ago) link

also no talking abt the random comedians u found and you're like "wow no way they're just like me!" and you sometimes check in to see what they got. its bad form

What about high-ranking White House officials

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:35 (nine months ago) link

I too would like to join! Will M, silby, or any other kind ilxor have a spare invite?

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:39 (nine months ago) link

theo von is a beast at learned league guys

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:42 (nine months ago) link

Oh wait $30 for membership, gotta think about this.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:44 (nine months ago) link

What about high-ranking White House officials

Actually, I am going to answer my own post and note that the Commish has laid down the law about this, so I am going to respect that decision, but I still find the whole thing amazing sometimes.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:44 (nine months ago) link

@Leee: You only have to pay after you've completed a full rookie season, so you can try it out and decide if you like it. I have plenty of invites to spare, too.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:46 (nine months ago) link

can one of you kind individuals send me an invite, please? ilx webmail reaches me :)

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:47 (nine months ago) link

Ah ok, that sounds reasonable. You can ilx mail me, and thanks!

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:51 (nine months ago) link

Suge was one of the year’s biggest rap hits; surprised that didn’t give away that clue. I guess people aren’t much listening to that world unless they are specialists.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:19 (nine months ago) link

the 30 also covers a full year, which is i believe 3 or 4 seasons, so if you like the first season you're not paying too much to keep going!

i don't see where to send invites tho, is it possible to do so during the season or do we have to wait a month?

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:42 (nine months ago) link

also if we have this many ppl i am definitely thinking ilxor private rundle next go around

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:42 (nine months ago) link

Okay, I just looked, and you can only give out 1 invite per season (unless you are a Premier or Commissioner's Circle member). Pretty sure there were more at one point, but I don't blame Thorsten for wanting to put some controls on growth.

I'll give mine to you, Leee, since we've actually met IRL!

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:47 (nine months ago) link

Oh, and Will, the referral page is here:
https://www.learnedleague.com/thorsten/referral.php

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:48 (nine months ago) link

if my quick scan is right, leee, unctious, and jim want invites? and jaymc has leee? so i will send one to Unc & someone else get jim? (lmk if i missed any. i am so tired rn)

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 04:38 (nine months ago) link

Unc contacted me, I will take care of ‘em

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 04:42 (nine months ago) link

ok jim i'll send you a message then!

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 04:47 (nine months ago) link

Why the low get rate on Q4 yesterday, Charles Pathé? This was the flaw in my defense, since I thought everybody must know this, especially an opponent with .761 in Film so assigned it a zero, allowing him to tie me 4(4)-4(3). Note: really don’t care that much, long ago gave up agonizing on defense, valuing speed over accuracy, having long ago settled down into C Rundle, most of my enjoyment now coming from the occasional 1DS or ML.

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 10:20 (nine months ago) link

im having an awful season defensively & strength of schedule-wise; last in correct answers against, DE at .636 (aside from a couple of bad seasons i'm usually around .780)... really hope i regress very soon

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 21:48 (two weeks ago) link

WAIT were they called the Whalers because WHAlers???

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 12 November 2020 21:57 (two weeks ago) link

oh damn that never even occurred to me

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 22:16 (two weeks ago) link

If I'd thought of that I might have gotten the question right

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 12 November 2020 22:19 (two weeks ago) link

if you're not a universal monsters nerd, james whale is memorable for being the subject of the film Gods and Monsters with Ian McKellen and Brendan Fraser in one of his last films before he went action hero

Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 November 2020 22:32 (two weeks ago) link

G&M is exactly how I got it.

I want to luhbahguh babum gum (Leee), Thursday, 12 November 2020 22:39 (two weeks ago) link

Dare I praise na for reaching the top of our rundle?

I want to luhbahguh babum gum (Leee), Friday, 13 November 2020 16:46 (one week ago) link

i don't really feel like i'm dominating. it's early days yet and i'll likely fall back into the middle of the group before season ends

na (NA), Friday, 13 November 2020 19:01 (one week ago) link

Part of me wants to comment upon my experience working on the 60s Music ML now that it is over and I have some distance from it but maybe I should just let it pass.

An Andalusian Do-rag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 November 2020 19:23 (one week ago) link

My first 9/6 yesterday!

Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:04 (one week ago) link

hey i got 9/6 yesterday too. still pretty rare for me.

na (NA), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:15 (one week ago) link

there's always a 9/6 in the banana stand

Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:34 (one week ago) link

lol

Indieland Phil and Indieland Don (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:38 (one week ago) link

That's the only one I missed.

Indieland Phil and Indieland Don (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:38 (one week ago) link

9(6) yesterday for me! not counting minileagues obv, this is only my third sixpack in 11 seasons (I've had a 9(5) as well). yaaaaaay!

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 19:10 (one week ago) link

i lost on a 3/3 vs 7/3 yesterday, annoyedface.emoji

Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 19:24 (one week ago) link

I was gifted a 3 on the Eswatini question even though I made explicit mention of it in the Djibouti thread.

I want to luhbahguh babum gum (Leee), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 19:25 (one week ago) link

Which was enough to give me a tie instead of a loss.

I want to luhbahguh babum gum (Leee), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 19:25 (one week ago) link

how many days in a row can I get 5 out of 6 and lose I ask you

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:51 (one week ago) link

It's happened to me the last two days!

(Annoyed at myself because I literally typed in Raphael and then erased it and put Donizetti, who isn't even an artist.)

jaymc, Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:02 (one week ago) link

Never delete your first answer and replace it with something less famous is the lesson o keep learning over and over and not remembering somehow

is right unfortunately (silby), Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:05 (one week ago) link

Yup. I think changing the answer is OK if there is actual logic behind it, but not because "this kinda sounds right?"

jaymc, Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:49 (one week ago) link

yeah, i did that with raphael/michaelangelo

Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:49 (one week ago) link

raphael is my stock answer for anything involving italian renaissance painting; finally it paid off

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:57 (one week ago) link

cowabunga dude

Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 November 2020 18:57 (one week ago) link

btw is there some reason those prizes are specific to the newlywed game? idgi

mookieproof, Friday, 20 November 2020 23:11 (six days ago) link

yeah that was terrible. also i voted for The Price Is Right, which is correct.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 November 2020 23:16 (six days ago) link

I don't think the prizes themselves are notable. The clue was the phrase "special prizes chosen just for the winners."

I was all set to submit "The Price Is Right," but that phrase kept nagging at me, and "The Newlywed Game" came to mind. It was a guess, but it turned out to be a good one.

jaymc, Friday, 20 November 2020 23:17 (six days ago) link

Aargh

Indieland Phil and Indieland Don (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 November 2020 00:08 (five days ago) link

ya boy is like last in his E division, but we carry on

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Saturday, 21 November 2020 01:05 (five days ago) link

Okay, I will spill the beans. It was a lot of work but I really enjoyed helping write the 60s Music recaps.

Indieland Phil and Indieland Don (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 November 2020 02:18 (five days ago) link

shocking beans

mookieproof, Saturday, 21 November 2020 02:45 (five days ago) link

James Redd in Recap Shockah

Indieland Phil and Indieland Don (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 November 2020 03:15 (five days ago) link

I said "The Price is Right" but the crucial clue is that it was an all-expenses paid cruise FOR TWO, i.e. the couple. Good question!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 21 November 2020 03:16 (five days ago) link

Learned League really makes you realize you don't know what other people know. I thought Flannery O'Connor was a gimme but wrestled with mimosa; I got them both but I really wasn't sure about mimosa. And like 90% of people got that right!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 21 November 2020 03:17 (five days ago) link

Yes, defense is a mug’s game. I thought everyone would get the game show except me, hah. Also thought Fatima might be easy but was hoping more people would fall into the Leila trap.

Indieland Phil and Indieland Don (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 November 2020 03:22 (five days ago) link

Think people who are really into it maybe have a better idea of what is a “Pavlov” or things like that.

Indieland Phil and Indieland Don (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 November 2020 03:25 (five days ago) link

an all-expenses paid cruise FOR TWO

idk, it's not like showcase showdowns suggested you go on cruises or live on a camping trailer by yourself? feel like there was a general assumption that all game show contestants were married

if the newlywed game adjusted its prizes according to whether it thought the winners would better appreciate a BC cruise or camper, then okay i had no idea

mookieproof, Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:12 (five days ago) link

Yeah, it wasn’t quite enough to hang one’s hat on. There is a thing about looking for those kind of clues or ins, but this one was a little too, um, subtle.

Indieland Phil and Indieland Don (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:22 (five days ago) link

I put Canadian Jeopardy

is right unfortunately (silby), Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:28 (five days ago) link

Lol

Indieland Phil and Indieland Don (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:28 (five days ago) link

Now I remember that for the ML question about “Blue Moon” we spent a little time discussing the wording of such a hint which ended up being “The Marcels stood alone atop the Billboard charts.” I suggested changing it to “The Marcels were seen standing alone,” which sounding more like the lyric, but somebody thought that would be a gimmie. The get rate was 30%

Indieland Phil and Indieland Don (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:35 (five days ago) link

Like some hints are just “passing” as clues, kind of mugging and grimacing but not really quite acknowledging they are actual hints.

Indieland Phil and Indieland Don (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:46 (five days ago) link

lol i'd have gotten 'blue moon' if the clue had been 'clapton solo ripoff' but i have literally never heard of the marcels

anyway the obvious answer is that you should do (absurdly difficult) one-days by yourself

mookieproof, Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:52 (five days ago) link

How did you know that was my plan?

Indieland Phil and Indieland Don (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:56 (five days ago) link

Never noticed or knew about that solo ripoff. Anyway the lead smith on that quiz was much younger than everyone else and was really conscientious about controlling the difficulty, starting it off with a 50% get rate in the beginning and then slowly tightening the screws.

Indieland Phil and Indieland Don (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 November 2020 05:16 (five days ago) link

Desktop still uses Lingots, looks like.

oh HI DERE thread! Llama since 2010 myself, ready for B Meridian tomorrow; my flag will not take ironing. I don't too often take part in 1DS and MLs, but had fun both with 60s music and stuff-or-else til off-season. Good luck in the upcoming!

Looking good!

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 November 2020 18:05 (four days ago) link

Doing all right; without doing the analysis, it feels like I've been a bit lucky in facing other Europeans on the most US-centric days. I guess A/B yo-yo may be approximately my true level atm.

anatol_merklich, Sunday, 22 November 2020 21:49 (four days ago) link

Yeah, I am currently at the top of the B/C yo-yo myself.

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 November 2020 22:24 (four days ago) link


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