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My first time on this year; would love a place to kibbitz on prior days questions and brag and bitch.
I'm 3-0 but I'm chalking that up to beginner's luck and a rookie rundle.
how about you?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 22 February 2020 20:19 (one year ago) link

Riding the bottom of A babee. Did we not have a thread already?

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Saturday, 22 February 2020 20:19 (one year ago) link

nope.

this is really making me use some muscles that have long been neglected. I've always prided myself on fast reference google-fu. LL is just about information that you've been exposed to or otherwise can puzzle out from your memory. You don't generally seem to be able to "figure out" clues logically or utilize your skillset to uncover information... you just have to remember it! I'm approaching it where I read the questions late night, answer whatever i know immediately and sleep on the rest till the morning and that seems to help a bit.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 22 February 2020 20:24 (one year ago) link

Oh hey! I remember James Redd and the Blecchs and I talked about starting a LL thread on ILX a few years ago, but we clearly never got around to it.

I'm 1-2-0 so far this season in A Keystone.

jaymc, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:31 (one year ago) link

I occasionally post on the LL message board, too.

jaymc, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:31 (one year ago) link

You don't generally seem to be able to "figure out" clues logically or utilize your skillset to uncover information... you just have to remember it!

I don't actually think this is true! I don't know that the first few questions this season have necessarily been representative, but one of the things I like about LL is that you often can puzzle things out if you read the question closely.

Actually, the Vaseline question from the other day might be a good example of this. I'd never heard of the Chesebrough Manufacturing Company, but I kept focusing on "Titusville, Pennsylvania" and thought, is it related to the coal industry? If I'd thought harder, I might have landed on oil instead, which could conceivably have led me to petroleum jelly. (It didn't happen, but it could have!)

jaymc, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:40 (one year ago) link

You're right, though, that a fair amount is dredging stuff up from memory. I always read the questions when I wake up in the morning and then usually let them rattle around my noggin for a while before submitting answers. Sometimes an answer will come to the surface in the interim. For instance, one time, on my way to work, I suddenly and inexplicably recalled the name Zamfir.

jaymc, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:45 (one year ago) link

Anyway I never use my invites so hmu ilxors. Word is league growth will be capped eventually at which point I guess it becomes one in one out, so get in while getting is good.

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:58 (one year ago) link

Baffling

or something, Sunday, 23 February 2020 00:54 (one year ago) link

for the confused:
https://learnedleague.com/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 23 February 2020 14:22 (one year ago) link

Thanks

or something, Sunday, 23 February 2020 15:36 (one year ago) link

3 of 6 correct today, 2 that i kinda thought i coulda got right and 1 that was just no chance at all

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 February 2020 06:44 (one year ago) link

Hey don’t post about questions until the results are in, even obliquely! You don’t know who’s submitted yet.

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 24 February 2020 06:58 (one year ago) link

well sure, but how is saying what i think i got right by the numbers revealing anything?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 February 2020 12:49 (one year ago) link

I’m sure there is some ruling from the Commissioner on this on the site, pro or con.

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 February 2020 13:57 (one year ago) link

i challenge jaymc to 'smith' a one-day about ilx

mookieproof, Monday, 24 February 2020 14:00 (one year ago) link

forks if I were to know you intimately I could derive third-order insight into the answers by analyzing how well you thought you did, imo. Best to avoid even the appearance of etc.

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:26 (one year ago) link

Makes sense

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:32 (one year ago) link

i've been doing learned league for a few years on an invite from jaymc. i'm in C rundle, which seems to be about right since i almost always end up right in the middle of the rankings at the end of each season. i've had a strong start to this season so far but i'm sure i'll hit a rut and end up back in the middle again.

my ongoing minor issue with the main learned league is the "classical music" category, which seems very specific for a stand-alone category (that i suck at). i wish they just had a "music" category that spanned all genres.

na (NA), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:34 (one year ago) link

silby OTM about not posting *anything* about a Match Day until it's over

jaymc, Monday, 24 February 2020 15:45 (one year ago) link

U guys are playing 3D chess but whatever works is fine. Meet you back here at 1 in the morning to discuss.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:51 (one year ago) link

I can't immediately find anything from the Commissioner about this, though it is a widely accepted norm within the LL community. On the LL board, whenever anyone posts even the most innocuous thing about a question while the Match Day is live, the post gets deleted.

Also, here's someone in a Learned League thread on the Jeopardy! message board:

With the new season and new players, it is a good time to remind everyone of the rule about discussing matches on this board. Please do not make any comment about the questions until that day's results have been posted on the LL board. Do not say how many you got right or wrong. Do not say if you thought they were hard or easy. Just do not say anything at all about the questions until the LL day has ended and the next day's questions are up.

As extreme as it may seem, I think it makes sense to stick with that rule here, too.

jaymc, Monday, 24 February 2020 16:14 (one year ago) link

Oh, it's also in WestJ's LL84 welcome post:

Please remember, do not post anything here or elsewhere about any LL questions while a match day is underway. Not with a spoiler warning, not with oblique references, not asking if a question has an error in it, not anything. Period.

jaymc, Monday, 24 February 2020 17:05 (one year ago) link

Well it's tomorrow now and I can reveal the secret that a plurality LL'ers are not fans of Bhad Bhabie

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:47 (one year ago) link

Haha. That was actually my route in, and I almost thought the answer was "Bad" until I remembered that "Suge" was the name of a song by Da Baby.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:49 (one year ago) link

I lost 8(5)-7(5). Always disappointing to get the same number of questions right but lose on defense.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:53 (one year ago) link

I am averaging about three right per game, but in the rookie league with some judicious defense, that seems to be enough to stay fairly competitive.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 16:36 (one year ago) link

damn i almost missed this thread. u can find me having terrible defense to start, i'm 2-2 :/ i'm usually decent on defense? but i have been getting steadily worse somehow season over season. idk why.

also there was a thread but like a fool i smushed the words together LearnedLeague - any iLLx0rs out there?

i was gonna give a cryptic clue to my name since i don't like saying it on here (i mean i guess it's already too late to run for office due to my history on this site, i would guess) but then i realized i put it in the other thread so go look there!

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 20:42 (one year ago) link

also yes i haven't used an invite in ages so if anyone needs, hit silby up and then hit me up

and i 100% got that q yesterday on account of bhad bhabie (almost went with lil on account of yes indeed, until i read closer lol) (also i feel like lil was a question super recently???)

and yeah esp if this is a public board, no talk on today's results is always a good move. also no talking abt the random comedians u found and you're like "wow no way they're just like me!" and you sometimes check in to see what they got. its bad form

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 20:47 (one year ago) link

Completely new to this, but really like the idea. It seems like it's too late to join this season--is that correct?

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 21:01 (one year ago) link

yeah you have to join in between seasons

na (NA), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 21:08 (one year ago) link

or you might be able to join but you wouldn't be able to play this season.

na (NA), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 21:08 (one year ago) link

also no talking abt the random comedians u found and you're like "wow no way they're just like me!" and you sometimes check in to see what they got. its bad form

What about high-ranking White House officials

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:35 (one year ago) link

I too would like to join! Will M, silby, or any other kind ilxor have a spare invite?

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:39 (one year ago) link

theo von is a beast at learned league guys

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:42 (one year ago) link

Oh wait $30 for membership, gotta think about this.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:44 (one year ago) link

What about high-ranking White House officials

Actually, I am going to answer my own post and note that the Commish has laid down the law about this, so I am going to respect that decision, but I still find the whole thing amazing sometimes.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:44 (one year ago) link

@Leee: You only have to pay after you've completed a full rookie season, so you can try it out and decide if you like it. I have plenty of invites to spare, too.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:46 (one year ago) link

can one of you kind individuals send me an invite, please? ilx webmail reaches me :)

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:47 (one year ago) link

Ah ok, that sounds reasonable. You can ilx mail me, and thanks!

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:51 (one year ago) link

Suge was one of the year’s biggest rap hits; surprised that didn’t give away that clue. I guess people aren’t much listening to that world unless they are specialists.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:19 (one year ago) link

the 30 also covers a full year, which is i believe 3 or 4 seasons, so if you like the first season you're not paying too much to keep going!

i don't see where to send invites tho, is it possible to do so during the season or do we have to wait a month?

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:42 (one year ago) link

also if we have this many ppl i am definitely thinking ilxor private rundle next go around

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:42 (one year ago) link

Okay, I just looked, and you can only give out 1 invite per season (unless you are a Premier or Commissioner's Circle member). Pretty sure there were more at one point, but I don't blame Thorsten for wanting to put some controls on growth.

I'll give mine to you, Leee, since we've actually met IRL!

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:47 (one year ago) link

Oh, and Will, the referral page is here:
https://www.learnedleague.com/thorsten/referral.php

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:48 (one year ago) link

if my quick scan is right, leee, unctious, and jim want invites? and jaymc has leee? so i will send one to Unc & someone else get jim? (lmk if i missed any. i am so tired rn)

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 04:38 (one year ago) link

Unc contacted me, I will take care of ‘em

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 04:42 (one year ago) link

ok jim i'll send you a message then!

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 04:47 (one year ago) link

Why the low get rate on Q4 yesterday, Charles Pathé? This was the flaw in my defense, since I thought everybody must know this, especially an opponent with .761 in Film so assigned it a zero, allowing him to tie me 4(4)-4(3). Note: really don’t care that much, long ago gave up agonizing on defense, valuing speed over accuracy, having long ago settled down into C Rundle, most of my enjoyment now coming from the occasional 1DS or ML.

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 10:20 (one year ago) link

? i'm missing the context.

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 April 2021 17:34 (two weeks ago) link

From the thread that kicked things off:

It occurred to me that, with 18 LL categories, the number of ways to order the categories far, far exceeds the number of active LL players (or humans in general). In principle, then, everyone might be expected to have a unique category ordering by Q% and that be a "fingerprint" of sorts.

Then Thorsten in a fit of procrastination decided to add it to the site, and now it's a thing.

Ovid-19 (Leee), Thursday, 1 April 2021 18:18 (two weeks ago) link

yikes, okay.

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 April 2021 18:40 (two weeks ago) link

It's hard for me to imagine that *no one* else shares my fingerprint (6BGE147FA8D9I2H53C, if you must know), given that there are some correlations between strength in some categories and weakness in others. But maybe!

jaymc, Thursday, 1 April 2021 18:53 (two weeks ago) link

Wait, Thorsten’s fingerprints only use letters.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 April 2021 23:47 (one week ago) link

Just submitted the draft questions for my 1DS. Feel kind of weird.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 April 2021 03:38 (four days ago) link

Looking forward to the 1DS this week that one of you smithed.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 April 2021 14:25 (four days ago) link

And just got my first feedback from a tester. Good stuff.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 April 2021 23:26 (four days ago) link

Thanks James! We're still polishing it a bit, so we're cutting it close.

Tahini Coates (Leee), Monday, 12 April 2021 14:41 (three days ago) link

Think I just read on the magic spreadsheet that one has to turn it in two days before it goes live.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 April 2021 14:43 (three days ago) link

Yep! And just submitted, so it's all ready to go.

Is yours "Dude, Where's My Car?"

Tahini Coates (Leee), Monday, 12 April 2021 18:19 (three days ago) link

Ha, no. Did you use the Bulk Uploader?

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 April 2021 19:48 (three days ago) link

I did (definitely beats copy-pasting a dozen times). It can however be a little wonky, but trying again seems to iron out the wrinkles.

Tahini Coates (Leee), Monday, 12 April 2021 19:53 (three days ago) link

Mine is not live until May.

Yeah, there are some subtleties to the Bulk Upload, but overall seems to work pretty well.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 April 2021 19:56 (three days ago) link

By the way, may I ask how many people ended up giving you feedback?

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 April 2021 23:44 (three days ago) link

12/12 for the second one; the first one I think was 11/12.

Tahini Coates (Leee), Monday, 12 April 2021 23:48 (three days ago) link

Thanks. How long did it take from them all to come in after you submitted?

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 April 2021 23:50 (three days ago) link

For the second one, we got about half of them within the last few days before the testing deadline (though a whole bunch right after I submitted the drafts). They definitely came in in waves.

I'm not as sure about the first one because forks took the lead there (and only one smith gets notified as the feedback comes in).

Tahini Coates (Leee), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 00:05 (two days ago) link

Dribbled in till a few day before iirc

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 12:01 (two days ago) link

Thanks. Did you actually get an email when someone submitted?

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 12:37 (two days ago) link

Yep

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 12:38 (two days ago) link

I have created a couple of Alpaca Farm quizzes, which I had fun with, but maybe I should try to do an official 1DS at some point. It's always just seemed like a long and complicated process.

jaymc, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 14:28 (two days ago) link

Maybe, but there’s just something about seeing something you wrote come out in that format.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 14:34 (two days ago) link

My 1DS comes out May 3. I have 11/12 feedback right now (the 12th still has a couple weeks and I personally almost always submit my feedback on the last day so I can't really complain).

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 14:46 (two days ago) link

Smithing 1DS's is definitely a time consuming and pretty thankless process but it's one of my favorite things about LL. Not something I would do if I didn't find writing and tinkering with questions fun though.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 14:47 (two days ago) link

Same here, even though this is my first one. Yours looks interesting, mine comes out two days later.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 14:57 (two days ago) link

Anyway, who else is signed up for the American Revolution ML?

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 15:58 (two days ago) link

Me. I think I'm going to do all four MLs during this off-season, which may be a first for me.

jaymc, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 15:59 (two days ago) link

Considered that, but not really feeling 21st Century Literature.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 16:01 (two days ago) link

That's probably the one I'm most excited about. (LGBT 2 should be good, too, but not as novel since I did LGBT 1.)

jaymc, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 16:40 (two days ago) link

today's "instructions" is INSANE

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 16:48 (two days ago) link

My brane hurt! Some people have too much time on their hands!

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 17:13 (two days ago) link

I ain't reading all that

jaymc, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 17:16 (two days ago) link

It’s like the worst excesses of the NPL Enigma puzzles

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 17:49 (two days ago) link

xp yeah i accidentally wasted like well over an hour on that and im pretty mad at myself for it

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 18:39 (two days ago) link

like that's time i dont have doing a thing i dont particularly like and am not particularly good at lmao

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 18:40 (two days ago) link

I remember doing the Pen and Paper Math one weekend and spending a lot of time and getting maybe 9/12, maybe one stupid error and two others that were quite hard computations then seeing how many people got 12/12 and wondering how much time they had spent or how in practice they were.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 18:42 (two days ago) link

Famous crossword solver was one of the top three among many.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 18:46 (two days ago) link

...and the same thing just happened to me on Optimizations. Got nine right and was ranked in the 600s.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 19:39 (two days ago) link

I got 8, which is pretty good for me, especially on a 1DS that I didn't expect to participating in.

Tahini Coates (Leee), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 20:49 (two days ago) link

And interesting that all of the questions except two in Optimizations were worth < 50 points.

Tahini Coates (Leee), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 21:23 (two days ago) link

Oh yeah. I couldn't quite conjure up either of those two *sigh*.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 21:59 (two days ago) link

In other news: The Loneliness of the LLama Smith Waiting for 1DS Feedback

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 21:59 (two days ago) link

Anyway, who else is signed up for the American Revolution ML?

hi dere!

I'm surely gonna get hammered; expect a lot of USers are experts on that; I hardly know my Saratoga from my Yorktown.

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 22:31 (two days ago) link

expect a lot of USers are experts on that; I hardly know my Saratoga from my Yorktown.

lol, you're giving the American school system too much credit.

Tahini Coates (Leee), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 22:49 (two days ago) link

Yeah, I am expecting to get krushed as well.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 23:53 (two days ago) link

Only three of us are doing it as far as I can get. Quite a few more for the General Knowledge Puzzle League though.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 16:18 (yesterday) link

I'm doing American Revolution and it is tuned very hard imo

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 16:50 (yesterday) link

I overthought the Phillis Wheatley question and thought that the reference to "religion" in the Jefferson quote was a clue pointing to Mercy Otis Warren.

jaymc, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 17:19 (yesterday) link

Maybe I should have submitted on Dude, Where's My Car? It was fun to review after the fact, in any case, more than I can say for Instruct 2.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 19:55 (yesterday) link


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