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My first time on this year; would love a place to kibbitz on prior days questions and brag and bitch.
I'm 3-0 but I'm chalking that up to beginner's luck and a rookie rundle.
how about you?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 22 February 2020 20:19 (two years ago) link

Riding the bottom of A babee. Did we not have a thread already?

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Saturday, 22 February 2020 20:19 (two years ago) link

nope.

this is really making me use some muscles that have long been neglected. I've always prided myself on fast reference google-fu. LL is just about information that you've been exposed to or otherwise can puzzle out from your memory. You don't generally seem to be able to "figure out" clues logically or utilize your skillset to uncover information... you just have to remember it! I'm approaching it where I read the questions late night, answer whatever i know immediately and sleep on the rest till the morning and that seems to help a bit.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 22 February 2020 20:24 (two years ago) link

Oh hey! I remember James Redd and the Blecchs and I talked about starting a LL thread on ILX a few years ago, but we clearly never got around to it.

I'm 1-2-0 so far this season in A Keystone.

jaymc, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:31 (two years ago) link

I occasionally post on the LL message board, too.

jaymc, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:31 (two years ago) link

You don't generally seem to be able to "figure out" clues logically or utilize your skillset to uncover information... you just have to remember it!

I don't actually think this is true! I don't know that the first few questions this season have necessarily been representative, but one of the things I like about LL is that you often can puzzle things out if you read the question closely.

Actually, the Vaseline question from the other day might be a good example of this. I'd never heard of the Chesebrough Manufacturing Company, but I kept focusing on "Titusville, Pennsylvania" and thought, is it related to the coal industry? If I'd thought harder, I might have landed on oil instead, which could conceivably have led me to petroleum jelly. (It didn't happen, but it could have!)

jaymc, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:40 (two years ago) link

You're right, though, that a fair amount is dredging stuff up from memory. I always read the questions when I wake up in the morning and then usually let them rattle around my noggin for a while before submitting answers. Sometimes an answer will come to the surface in the interim. For instance, one time, on my way to work, I suddenly and inexplicably recalled the name Zamfir.

jaymc, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:45 (two years ago) link

Anyway I never use my invites so hmu ilxors. Word is league growth will be capped eventually at which point I guess it becomes one in one out, so get in while getting is good.

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:58 (two years ago) link

Baffling

or something, Sunday, 23 February 2020 00:54 (two years ago) link

for the confused:
https://learnedleague.com/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 23 February 2020 14:22 (two years ago) link

Thanks

or something, Sunday, 23 February 2020 15:36 (two years ago) link

3 of 6 correct today, 2 that i kinda thought i coulda got right and 1 that was just no chance at all

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 February 2020 06:44 (two years ago) link

Hey don’t post about questions until the results are in, even obliquely! You don’t know who’s submitted yet.

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 24 February 2020 06:58 (two years ago) link

well sure, but how is saying what i think i got right by the numbers revealing anything?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 February 2020 12:49 (two years ago) link

I’m sure there is some ruling from the Commissioner on this on the site, pro or con.

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 February 2020 13:57 (two years ago) link

i challenge jaymc to 'smith' a one-day about ilx

mookieproof, Monday, 24 February 2020 14:00 (two years ago) link

forks if I were to know you intimately I could derive third-order insight into the answers by analyzing how well you thought you did, imo. Best to avoid even the appearance of etc.

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:26 (two years ago) link

Makes sense

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:32 (two years ago) link

i've been doing learned league for a few years on an invite from jaymc. i'm in C rundle, which seems to be about right since i almost always end up right in the middle of the rankings at the end of each season. i've had a strong start to this season so far but i'm sure i'll hit a rut and end up back in the middle again.

my ongoing minor issue with the main learned league is the "classical music" category, which seems very specific for a stand-alone category (that i suck at). i wish they just had a "music" category that spanned all genres.

na (NA), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:34 (two years ago) link

silby OTM about not posting *anything* about a Match Day until it's over

jaymc, Monday, 24 February 2020 15:45 (two years ago) link

U guys are playing 3D chess but whatever works is fine. Meet you back here at 1 in the morning to discuss.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:51 (two years ago) link

I can't immediately find anything from the Commissioner about this, though it is a widely accepted norm within the LL community. On the LL board, whenever anyone posts even the most innocuous thing about a question while the Match Day is live, the post gets deleted.

Also, here's someone in a Learned League thread on the Jeopardy! message board:

With the new season and new players, it is a good time to remind everyone of the rule about discussing matches on this board. Please do not make any comment about the questions until that day's results have been posted on the LL board. Do not say how many you got right or wrong. Do not say if you thought they were hard or easy. Just do not say anything at all about the questions until the LL day has ended and the next day's questions are up.

As extreme as it may seem, I think it makes sense to stick with that rule here, too.

jaymc, Monday, 24 February 2020 16:14 (two years ago) link

Oh, it's also in WestJ's LL84 welcome post:

Please remember, do not post anything here or elsewhere about any LL questions while a match day is underway. Not with a spoiler warning, not with oblique references, not asking if a question has an error in it, not anything. Period.

jaymc, Monday, 24 February 2020 17:05 (two years ago) link

Well it's tomorrow now and I can reveal the secret that a plurality LL'ers are not fans of Bhad Bhabie

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:47 (two years ago) link

Haha. That was actually my route in, and I almost thought the answer was "Bad" until I remembered that "Suge" was the name of a song by Da Baby.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:49 (two years ago) link

I lost 8(5)-7(5). Always disappointing to get the same number of questions right but lose on defense.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:53 (two years ago) link

I am averaging about three right per game, but in the rookie league with some judicious defense, that seems to be enough to stay fairly competitive.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 16:36 (two years ago) link

damn i almost missed this thread. u can find me having terrible defense to start, i'm 2-2 :/ i'm usually decent on defense? but i have been getting steadily worse somehow season over season. idk why.

also there was a thread but like a fool i smushed the words together LearnedLeague - any iLLx0rs out there?

i was gonna give a cryptic clue to my name since i don't like saying it on here (i mean i guess it's already too late to run for office due to my history on this site, i would guess) but then i realized i put it in the other thread so go look there!

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 20:42 (two years ago) link

also yes i haven't used an invite in ages so if anyone needs, hit silby up and then hit me up

and i 100% got that q yesterday on account of bhad bhabie (almost went with lil on account of yes indeed, until i read closer lol) (also i feel like lil was a question super recently???)

and yeah esp if this is a public board, no talk on today's results is always a good move. also no talking abt the random comedians u found and you're like "wow no way they're just like me!" and you sometimes check in to see what they got. its bad form

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 20:47 (two years ago) link

Completely new to this, but really like the idea. It seems like it's too late to join this season--is that correct?

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 21:01 (two years ago) link

yeah you have to join in between seasons

na (NA), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 21:08 (two years ago) link

or you might be able to join but you wouldn't be able to play this season.

na (NA), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 21:08 (two years ago) link

also no talking abt the random comedians u found and you're like "wow no way they're just like me!" and you sometimes check in to see what they got. its bad form

What about high-ranking White House officials

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:35 (two years ago) link

I too would like to join! Will M, silby, or any other kind ilxor have a spare invite?

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:39 (two years ago) link

theo von is a beast at learned league guys

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:42 (two years ago) link

Oh wait $30 for membership, gotta think about this.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:44 (two years ago) link

What about high-ranking White House officials

Actually, I am going to answer my own post and note that the Commish has laid down the law about this, so I am going to respect that decision, but I still find the whole thing amazing sometimes.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:44 (two years ago) link

@Leee: You only have to pay after you've completed a full rookie season, so you can try it out and decide if you like it. I have plenty of invites to spare, too.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:46 (two years ago) link

can one of you kind individuals send me an invite, please? ilx webmail reaches me :)

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:47 (two years ago) link

Ah ok, that sounds reasonable. You can ilx mail me, and thanks!

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:51 (two years ago) link

Suge was one of the year’s biggest rap hits; surprised that didn’t give away that clue. I guess people aren’t much listening to that world unless they are specialists.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:19 (two years ago) link

the 30 also covers a full year, which is i believe 3 or 4 seasons, so if you like the first season you're not paying too much to keep going!

i don't see where to send invites tho, is it possible to do so during the season or do we have to wait a month?

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:42 (two years ago) link

also if we have this many ppl i am definitely thinking ilxor private rundle next go around

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:42 (two years ago) link

Okay, I just looked, and you can only give out 1 invite per season (unless you are a Premier or Commissioner's Circle member). Pretty sure there were more at one point, but I don't blame Thorsten for wanting to put some controls on growth.

I'll give mine to you, Leee, since we've actually met IRL!

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:47 (two years ago) link

Oh, and Will, the referral page is here:
https://www.learnedleague.com/thorsten/referral.php

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:48 (two years ago) link

if my quick scan is right, leee, unctious, and jim want invites? and jaymc has leee? so i will send one to Unc & someone else get jim? (lmk if i missed any. i am so tired rn)

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 04:38 (two years ago) link

Unc contacted me, I will take care of ‘em

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 04:42 (two years ago) link

ok jim i'll send you a message then!

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 04:47 (two years ago) link

Why the low get rate on Q4 yesterday, Charles Pathé? This was the flaw in my defense, since I thought everybody must know this, especially an opponent with .761 in Film so assigned it a zero, allowing him to tie me 4(4)-4(3). Note: really don’t care that much, long ago gave up agonizing on defense, valuing speed over accuracy, having long ago settled down into C Rundle, most of my enjoyment now coming from the occasional 1DS or ML.

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 10:20 (two years ago) link

If you do get it and you need any help please let me know and then…oh wait.

Meme for an Imaginary Western (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 July 2022 14:23 (two months ago) link

screwed myself out of a 4th place finish on trip hop because i was sure it was marina and not martina lol

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Monday, 25 July 2022 20:22 (two months ago) link

Oh, sorry about that. I didn’t play but it was a nice 1DS and a really good writeup.

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 July 2022 16:16 (one month ago) link

One thing I don’t get is when people don’t do a recap. I think I remember one guy saying he was on vacation in the mountains or something while it was happening but other than something like that, there are various motivating factors to do the recap as soon as possible if possible.

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 July 2022 16:18 (one month ago) link

Reason Zero is that is seems kind of chintzy when there is no recap.

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 July 2022 23:47 (one month ago) link

Reason One is that in some ways that is the most fun part of the contest to write.

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 July 2022 23:47 (one month ago) link

...and 1DS submissions are open for 2023.

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 4 August 2022 19:46 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

…and I just submitted mine.

I’d Rather Gorblimey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 August 2022 22:54 (one month ago) link

I skipped out on a 1DS proposal, I'm all in on my minileague proposal instead

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Friday, 26 August 2022 01:30 (one month ago) link

!

I’d Rather Gorblimey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 August 2022 01:40 (one month ago) link

As is my tradition, I dropped the first match of the season, although this time in breathtakingly dumb fashion (I completely whiffed on Q2).

we talkin bout praxis (Leee), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:45 (four weeks ago) link

Thank God for text notifications, because I completely forgot that yesterday was the start of the season until my phone buzzed at 10 pm. I'm going to blame the short submission window for the fact I missed the Nike question.

jaymc, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:48 (four weeks ago) link

Hearing that.

I’d Rather Gorblimey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:53 (four weeks ago) link

i like the way you work it

mookieproof, Friday, 2 September 2022 06:27 (three weeks ago) link

From north to south
From east to west

I’d Rather Gorblimey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 September 2022 12:05 (three weeks ago) link

And I just got my alert for today.

I’d Rather Gorblimey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 September 2022 02:02 (three weeks ago) link

In 22nd after the first round of the LL Championship though I could have been top 5 if I'd have moneyed composite (not to mention answering Bletchley Hall instead of Bletchley Park)

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 01:08 (three weeks ago) link

Cool!

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 01:13 (three weeks ago) link

So a little behind Joon.

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 01:20 (three weeks ago) link

Oops. Maybe that’s a bit of a violation.

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 01:32 (three weeks ago) link

I'm sure it will be downhill from here but the record will show that at one point I was in 3rd place in the LL championship.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 17:11 (three weeks ago) link

i am only . . . several hundred places behind you

mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 20:29 (three weeks ago) link

Ha, I looked on the list for familiar names and never noticed/got to you.

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 September 2022 10:30 (two weeks ago) link

Still finished top 25! Really glad that some bad moneying and dumb misses (still mad at myself for not being able to pull Bocephus) didn't hurt too much.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Thursday, 8 September 2022 18:47 (two weeks ago) link

yeah 23rd is very impressive, congrats!

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 8 September 2022 20:54 (two weeks ago) link

My hero!

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 September 2022 22:10 (two weeks ago) link

wp!

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 8 September 2022 22:26 (two weeks ago) link

bucknered someone yesterday lol

mookieproof, Friday, 9 September 2022 15:59 (two weeks ago) link

I won yesterday bc my opponent gave me a 3 on the baby name question, smh

jaymc, Friday, 9 September 2022 17:08 (two weeks ago) link

Lol!

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 September 2022 17:12 (two weeks ago) link

I guess I should feel bad for getting credit on Q6 (I answered breasts) that gave me a 6(3)-5(4) win yesterday, but I will never say no to a win, especially one that gives me a little bit of cushion from the relegation zone.

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 17:22 (two weeks ago) link

i answered the same

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 15 September 2022 01:31 (one week ago) link

my opponent gave me 2 for the sears tower question even though i have chicago as my location (and they got it right too so they knew what it was)

na (NA), Thursday, 15 September 2022 13:33 (one week ago) link

learned league is a reflection of society because a bunch of dudes incorrectly said BREASTS and got credit for it (including me)

na (NA), Thursday, 15 September 2022 13:34 (one week ago) link

Midseason Classic: Classic or Dud?

Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 September 2022 01:06 (one week ago) link

I thought I did pretty badly this time around, but since I actually almost qualified, I guess it was one of the harder ones?

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Monday, 19 September 2022 17:55 (one week ago) link

learned league is a reflection of society because a bunch of dudes incorrectly said BREASTS and got credit for it (including me)

wtf? i said that and got marked wrong!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 19 September 2022 18:21 (one week ago) link

Oh no, sorry, I said a different part of the bathing suit area

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 19 September 2022 18:33 (one week ago) link

Some people on the LL message board post about studying for LL, like "I even reviewed my world capitals Anki deck last week, but I guess should have paid more attention to Southeast Asia!" And to each their own, I guess, but I just can't relate to this at all. (I'm not even sure what an Anki deck is.)

Admittedly, I did a bit of general prep before I went on Jeopardy!, and when I used to go to a pub quiz that always announced one round's theme in advance, I'd sometimes read through the relevant Wikipedia page to help my team's chances. (It was usually about a TV show or some other specific piece of pop culture.)

But I like LL as a daily brain teaser, a test of what I already know (or what I'm able to summon from the depths of my memory). Studying a random subject in the hopes that Thorsten might ask about it someday just seems kind of weird to me. If it's mostly about improving one's general knowledge out of genuine curiosity, with success at trivia games an added benefit, I can understand that a bit more. But "studying" just makes me think these people are all try-hard nerds.

jaymc, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 17:17 (one week ago) link

Hearing that.

Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 17:41 (one week ago) link

Like a while back I used to buy crossword dictionaries and the World Almanac but not for a long time now.

Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 17:43 (one week ago) link

As someone who started an entire thread on Anki, I started studying flashcards as a way to avoid that feeling when Thorsten asks something and I just have a huge blank in my head about it, especially on a topic that lends itself pretty easily to rote memorization. That said, the amount of time it started to take just seemed like too much to commit to, and I haven't studied at all in a couple seasons (my alternative to flashcards has been to watch more history Youtubes).

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 18:37 (one week ago) link

Most of my, um, gamified study these days is given over to language learning apps. Other things I’d prefer to learn other ways or live with not knowing.

Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 18:55 (one week ago) link

I have at least one friend who was in the championship who says he nevers studies, just does trivia nights a few days per week, I think.

Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 19:04 (one week ago) link

But "studying" just makes me think these people are all try-hard nerds.

Touché and What of it? :-D

I'll freely cop to being a try-hard nerd! It's like, This Is My Sport* **, and I really do spend an inordinate amount of time trying to be good at it, including cardbin app use (Mnemosyne is my jam rather than Anki). LL is just one of many arenas.

*) my Second Sport is Scrabble (in Norwegian). There has been some fruitful cross-learning actually, such as the time I had a look at the allowed words ending in notoriously shitty letter F, one of which was TREIF, apparently a kind of opposite to KOSCHER – I'd never come across the word, but it turned up in a competitive quiz only a few weeks later yay.)

**) I also truly love orienteering, but am a bad and slow runner, so will never amount to anything competitively there, except enjoying trots in the woods immensely.

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 09:25 (one week ago) link

This Is My Sport* **, and I really do spend an inordinate amount of time trying to be good at it

The beauty of LL is of course that the small number of questions, and the vagaries of defence, mean that on Any Given Weekday anyone can beat anyone.

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 10:01 (one week ago) link

Greatest song ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6d8uuNHDss

Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 14:14 (yesterday) link

Finally hit the relegation zone again. :\

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 17:26 (yesterday) link

Me too. Even though I'm tied 11th out of 30 in correct answers, defence has been pretty bad and schedule has been terrible; am in a clear second(-worst) place in CAA.

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 20:07 (yesterday) link

I'm in first for the first time since my rookie rundle, just jinxed it


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