Posts you had second thought about and decided not to post on the "Posts you had second thought about and decided not to post - put them here" thread - put them here

it's interesting mentioning yeats in light of his own politics possibly affirming sund4r's contention that anti-business sentiment might be linked to feelings of bigotry

https://i.imgur.com/VDmBw2i.png

― Mordy, Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:04 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

very flimsy.

xp - uh, gyac, your post is verging on concern trolling tbh -- i have interacted with silby on numerous threads outside of that one -- they have a shtick and a very open agenda/manifesto re politics. They know they do. Ogmor alluded to it, though disagreed with my response to it. It's a game. It's a persona. It would be a very different dynamic if I had posted personal criticism in response to a post that was personal in nature -- like someone sharing their actual experiences and being "vulnerable".

did you miss the day where silby was banned for repeatedly hurling abuse at Sanpaku in the outbreak thread every time he posted? granted....I understand it in that Sanpaku brings a lot of it on himself with the constant sharing of dubious information in the outbreak thread, so it's not like I'm a Sanpaku stan, but...silby isn't someone that's just collecting friendly fire. i don't dislike silby but you keep refusing to accept that there is a prior history that plays some of the beefing here that you just weren't privy to, instead suggesting it just doesn't exist and sarahell is just randomly picking on them.

for example, you and map and LL and a handful of others expressed your criticism of "small business owners" by talking about actual experiences you had, and mh brought up actual issues that are problematic ... I see those types of responses as good faith discussion, and I try not to get nasty in disagreeing with posters who are discussing things honestly and respectfully in good faith. silby wasn't doing that. if you can't see that difference or if that doesn't make a difference to you in how you respond to posters: like, it's a matter of whether someone is on your side or not vs. how they present themselves/their argument ... then idk ... we just don't ilx the same way.

i mean, at one point a few years ago a poster's significant other "forced" him to post that i was a nasty bitch because I made memes about his florid language and pastoral horse paintings ... so ... I have had plenty of shit hurled at me on this board over the years, and it takes a lot more to hurt me, than what you are accusing me of atm.

this argument is metastasizing i see

don't look at me!

his florid language and pastoral horse paintings

lol I have no idea who this is but it sounds awesome.

was thinking the same thing

It isn't silby?

You'd think that people would have had enough of silby love songs

of course it's not silby

I love the idea of pastoral horse paintings though

tee hee @ ymp

I look around me and I steeeeen
it isn't hoos

Pippa's Hoarse

for the record

I was going to moderate and nuance my post, then I reread the other thread and fuck it.

sexyhorsepics -- moderate and nuanced

okay that's just, like, wow, apparently we really hate normal people here

i know i do

No such thing as a normal person iirc.

are we talking about burt stanton here or what

i don't know who "burt stanton" is but he sounds like he could possibly be a normal person

very not normal

I actually have clotheslines running throughout my apartment where I like to hang my dirty underwear, and at night I get stoned, turn up some Einsturzende Neubauten, turn off the lights, and it's like I'm dancing under a sky of shit

― burt_stanton, Friday, January 23, 2009 5:12 PM bookmarkflaglink

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ǝuoz ǝɯᴉʇ ɹ∩O⅄ xᴉɟ

so tired of your bullshit tbh

I apologise for making the world round :(

how're some of you as old as you are without knowing a dangerous person when you meet one

listen, i guess i fuckin appreciate the "sometimes people bring out dark things in others" discourse, that makes me feel great personally, that i've had something dark and ugly brought out of me by witnessing someone's fucked up posts over a long period of time, but the major message i've gotten from this board over the past few days is:

crypto transmisogyny: totally cool
saying crypto transmisogyny isn't cool: HOW DARE YOU, also that wasn't crypto transmisogyny, it was the complete opposite, despite the poster continuing to post in ways that really resemble crypto transmisogyny
saying that someone might hold views that resemble regressive truscum bullshit: totally fucked up, what the hell, someone's gonna say "fuck" up in here

i'm furious and sad

enjoy your message board

Brad, I love your posts and want to be positive / supportive

but also I have tried to work out what has happened on ilx today for about ten minutes and still can't work it, sorry

Here you go:

self-isolating LGBTs of SPRING 2020

don't want to speak for Brad, but I also suspect a previous incident from months ago involving the same poster (that resulted in a threadban for said poster) is important context in this scenario

Here you go:

self-isolating LGBTs of SPRING 2020

― pomenitul, Wednesday, July 29, 2020 9:39 PM (thirty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yes, I have read the last day's posts on that thread, and have gone from thinking I had some basic knowledge of trans stuff to realizing I know near to nothing, suppose that's some sort of growth, still not going to allow myself an opinion until I know a lot more, that might be a while.
I do realize I am now kind of making this about me, and it is in no way about me, so will shut up.

have gone from thinking I had some basic knowledge of trans stuff to realizing I know near to nothing, suppose that's some sort of growth

You and me both.

All I can say is a hell of a lot seems to have happened in Branwell's life since I last met them.

Shit Brad, I'm sorry to hear how this is impacting you. I get the need to take a break sometimes, if you do end up taking one I sincerely hope it ends up not being a permanent one. The quality of posting on the ILM side of things would certainly be less without your contributions.

(x-post)

Maybe there's a lot that's happened, but there seems to be some repetition karma in Bramwell's life regarding thread engagement and resulting fall-out,

how're some of you as old as you are without knowing a dangerous person when you meet one

― all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:56 AM (three hours ago)

pal, I have been scared as fuck of cops since before you were born, probably ... tbh I do appreciate that you stand up for other marginalized posters here on ilx, and your utopian idealism is not the worst thing ever

oh thanks

Who's dangerous?

*ahem*

No-one on ILX is dangerous, don't be silly, silby.

how could you possibly know that

Because I've met the person you're talking about. I think. I'm guessing here.

one thing about coming to ilx as a female-identified person, at least, in the first 10 or so years of ilx ... sexual harrassment and uh, solicitation, was definitely present and gross. Not to dismiss board problems for posters who have transitioned while on ilx, or have come to ilx more recently -- like, not trying to engage in competitive suffering at all -- also, there are other ways ilx has treated posters like garbage that isn't any less garbage-y than the way ilx treated women for long time. Just, putting it out there, in case you weren't aware of that history and how it frames the way some posters may view ilx in re gender.

OK, this person is not 'dangerous'.

I remember you (among others) talking about this and it crosses my mind whenever someone waxes nostalgic about ILX's 'glory days'.

xp

maybe i am generalizing -- maybe married women didn't get the same abusive / creepy treatment -- maybe because i am creepy i got treated like garbage by dudes -- who knows! I also have a few entertaining stories, and at least one of the creepy dudes later apologized and we are friends now.

maybe because i am creepy i got treated like garbage by dudes

You don't really mean this… at least I hope not.

sarahell is being mordant there

it's kinda a mindfuck the way this place has changed -- like idk Branwell has dealt with it much more intensively than I -- and there is a psychological thing where, when you are used to being attacked all the time (regardless of whether you were the instigator or not -- I don't want to cast myself as a victim), you end up getting defensive and assuming you are being attacked even when you aren't, so things become battles when they don't have to be