US Politics, June 2020 — You have to dominate.

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This dovetails with the Detroit article and then you can add on top of the racism a capitalism that has pretty much devolved to straight up leaving the morlocks to drown and this is what you are going to get.

Obviously, all this arguing about whether Trump will win or not is just the usual political palaver, because we all desperately want to move on to the voting and the result, but there are months yet to run before the payoff.

In the meantime, I might suggest that turning one's attention away from our forlorn presidential race to notice your own state and local politics might be a more fruitful pursuit atm. Reigning in the police is wholly a local issue and the iron is very hot and is about more ready to be pounded into a better, more useful shape than it has been in decades.

i just saw the future

October 20, 2020 Trump: - and now they’re asking me for MORE money for USPS? when they’re working with the democrats to commit voter fraud with the phony mail-in ballots? this has to stop. the american people demand it

I might feel more sanguine about voter turnout if we weren't in the middle of mishandling a pandemic that makes gathering together more dangerous than usual. I'd also feel more sanguine about people turning on Donald Trump if I believed people were actually turning on him; I predict he will lose few of the votes he got in 2016 because even the people who are hypercritical of him that are popping up in news reports are still indicating that they plan to vote for him again. There seems to be this prevailing idea of "now that people know, they will do the right thing" which, as far as I can tell, has no actual bearing in how people behave.

So what the hell happened in Madison?

The important thing to understand "the Madison crowd" referred to by Chris Hayes is a lot of different crowds of varying sizes. The people giving speeches to thousands at the Capitol are not the same as the people who robbed stores three weeks ago (non-political opportunists) who are in turn not the same as the people who took down statues (mostly-white mostly-dude militant leftists who like to fuck shit up on general theoretical grounds) There are people who will declare that coming into a restaurant with a baseball bat and a megaphone (this guy was a dude but not white, fwiw) saying "I've got a fucking bat," and asking diners through their megaphone to Venmo him for protest funds is inseparable from the struggle and is just part of the necessary process of "bringing the war home" to white liberals. I get the argument, I just think it's wrong.

anyone catching this Donald Ayer testimony in the House Judiciary Committee hearing? he is bringing it

jackson lee, before that, too. teed it up for ayer nicely

xp Or that beating the shit out of a guy for recording on his phone is a necessary precaution. Come on. It really doesn't matter that the guy turned out to be a liberal State Senator. He wasn't doing Nazi shit or trying to run somebody over.

ugh, John Elias is _not_ bringing it

And at the same time I am highly conscious that there are .. FORCES .. which cause us to be talking about the Clockwork Orange dipshits kicking old guys in the stomach and not about the people in cars who actually DID try to run over protesters earlier in the day.

btw did you all talk about this already: https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/06/kentucky-the-day-after

the necessary process of "bringing the war home" to white liberals. I get the argument, I just think it's wrong.

Their essential wrongness is that "war" cannot be waged by individuals or tiny groups. War is a tool that can only be wielded for and by large aggregates of people. This how the Irish Republican Army differed from the Symbionese Liberation Army, and that's why ISIS has far more political legitimacy than some dude with a baseball bat extorting money from restaurant patrons. That dude skipped all the hard part.

btw did you all talk about this already: https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/06/kentucky-the-day-after

― shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, June 24, 2020

It's a good post. I limit the number of LGM writing I post these days.

Obviously, all this arguing about whether Trump will win or not is just the usual political palaver, because we all desperately want to move on to the voting and the result, but there are months yet to run before the payoff.

In the meantime, I might suggest that turning one's attention away from our forlorn presidential race to notice your own state and local politics might be a more fruitful pursuit atm. Reigning in the police is wholly a local issue and the iron is very hot and is about more ready to be pounded into a better, more useful shape than it has been in decades.

― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:15 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i know i'm a shiny-national-thing poll-watcher on this thread, but please see SB 51: the California politics thread and the other local politics threads.

Thanks eephus, was generally trying to get a better handle on it outside of the typical news reports. My Twitter feed was pretty good in terms of folks in the midst of things in Seattle, Minneapolis, NYC and Chicago, but not so much Madison so it's been harder to piece things together. Appreciate the thorough rundown!

if this is the republican plan for election year during a pandemic then i feel good

Rep. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell (D-Fla.) just chastised Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) for not wearing a mask during Judiciary hearing. Jordan responds: “The unmasking this committee should be concerned about is the unmasking that took place at the end of the Obama administration.”

— Felicia Sonmez (@feliciasonmez) June 24, 2020

I would feel better if most people weren't absolute fucking morons

What does that even.... I don't... who cares.

TREASON! The obvious treason that we don't even need to mention because it's so obvious the treason that Obama committed daily.

xp fair, but i'm going to steal a bunch of postal votes too to make sure

I'm not gonna lie, I'm impressed by these people's ability to set aside all normal human responses and just stay on message no matter what question is ostensibly at hand

"How do you like the Yankees' chances in a short season?"
"Not as much as I like staying Christian in the face of the AOC/Pelosi mob's demands to ban my faith!"

"Did you want to add fries to that?"
"Well, the only fries we should be concerned about right now are those fried in the depths of Obama's treasonous relationship with Bursima by getting Hunter Biden a job building 5G towers in Wuhan."

I would feel better if most people weren't absolute fucking morons

evergreen quote

my favorite example of setting aside normal human responses and staying on message (and look at this smug, moronic fucker think he's checkmating scott pelley)

“[These] are the White House talking points emailed to the Congress this week.” — great work by @ScottPelley for this masterclass in preparation + persistence as he tries to get McCarthy to identify the Trump defense against impeachment pic.twitter.com/1AV4zmEF11

— jd durkin (@jiveDurkey) September 30, 2019

these people should face legal repercussions and open constant derision from the public and the press

democrats doing a zoom convention

Democrats announced Wednesday that Joe Biden will forgo big crowds, chaotic floor votes and much of the pomp of a traditional political convention when he accepts his party’s nomination over four nights of nationally televised celebrations in Milwaukee in August.

The decision to shift gears and shrink attendance, abandoning the city’s basketball arena for a nearby convention hall, is intended to reduce the spread of the novel coronavirus and establish a clear contrast with President Trump, who wants a large and raucous event with thousands of cheering supporters to celebrate his nomination.

“The thing that I believe more than anything is that Donald Trump needs the roar of a crowd to feel he is in charge,” Democratic convention CEO Joe Solmonese said. “And Joe Biden was born to be in charge.”

Democrats are asking the nearly 5,000 voting delegates to participate in Biden’s nomination from home, removing the core audience from the convention hall. The number of media allowed to attend the event in person, 20,000 in a typical year, is also expected to fall dramatically. Official reception parties for delegates, the press and volunteers have been canceled, and all the official business of the convention, including votes on the party’s platform and the nominees, will be handled remotely.

good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UaJAnnipkY

Butbutbutbut don't you SEE?

The left was okay with BLM protests! So the left are hypocrites! So therefore your point is, uh, invalid, or, um...

Did we discuss gohmert banging on his desk and throwing a tantrum today

I think there’s a decent chance things get bad enough that even the GOP convention goes virtual. Imagine how isolated he will feel.

increasingly

XPS

JUST IN: WILD CONGRESS MOMENT --

Gohmert refuses to stop banging on desk as Donald Ayer goes over time limit.

Nadler & Johnson fail to get Gohmert to stop. Johnson asks if sergeant-at-arms could be brought in.

Doug Collins jumps in, insults Nadler. https://t.co/N9VxER8uUx pic.twitter.com/yFu5fs0QfK

— The Hill (@thehill) June 24, 2020

eephus thanks for your take on Madison, I generally agree esp. with "tearing down the relics of a society that has failed them"

What has women’s suffrage done for us anyway.

funny you should ask
http://www.foundsf.org/index.php?title=Suffrage_and_Spiritualism

If it's just suffrage for white women, big meh to any hand-wringing.

The original was for the 1893 Columbian exhibition, and a "pamphlet for the event said the female figure was standing at the prow of a boat surging through the water."

Sounds pretty colonial to me but y'know

What has women’s suffrage done for us anyway.

― Boring, Maryland, Wednesday, June 24, 2020

sharpest Janet Jackson song imo

“dozens” of secret service agents in quarantine because of Tulsa rally, per CNN

Just another evening on Fox News, with Laura Ingraham and Lara Logan chatting about race war...

Fox Nation host warns that protesters are trying to start a "race war" pic.twitter.com/P1Euz61ilJ

— Jason Campbell (@JasonSCampbell) June 24, 2020

The 20th Amendment is cancelled.

The 20th Amendment is cancelled.

“Everyone should just wear a damn mask, like you guys are, like I am right now,” Rubio said as he left a GOP lunch where Vice President Mike Pence gave a coronavirus update, according to CNN.

every once in a while, the guy is right

ok, but everyone who's sentient has been saying wear a mask

I'm continually astonished by the number of people on the street who don't care enough to wear one though

This angry Florida woman argued today against the mask mandate, while bringing up the devil, 5G, Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, "the pedophiles" and the deep state.

Enjoy... pic.twitter.com/yqKUZNQYLQ

— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) June 24, 2020

saw a video of another view of her and other crazy commenters. insane

i prefer the LA "fuck you i yield my time" guys

That Florida woman sounds exactly like Cecily Strong’s “girl you wish you hadn’t started a conversation with at a party” on SNL.

didn't think 'masks' would be a lightning rod. I don't get it, thought people would care enough about each other to wear one

surprise! many don't.