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What's up this year? Lots!

- The housing crisis, Prop 10 and SB 827 (RIP (for now))
- Prop 5 (and the hope of a split roll measure in a couple of years?!)
- Prop 6 (lol this is going to lose I hope)
- When did Gavin Newsom disappoint you first?
- Feinstein vs De Leon (lol) and the state democratic party
- The state republican party (lol)
- Ballot Measure C in SF (this one seems nuts!)
- What is the deal with all the ballot measures, isn't that what we pay these people for?
- high speed rail (lol)
- single payer (lol)

Let's talk about it!

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 14:57 (one year ago) link

someone explain SF measure C to me? is it doomed now breed, weiner, etc. are against it?

re: ballot measure 6, is apparently a lost cause at this point, ha, http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-california-gas-tax-repeal-campaign-cash-20180930-story.html. but prop 10 is not polling well either (and is kind of a mess legislatively as i understand it): https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article219033985.html.

LA measure B (city bank) is cool btw, and the LA times sucks for opposing it.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 15:01 (one year ago) link

I have no idea what's going to happen to measure C but I hope it passes. The split on the Dem side (Pelosi and various supervisors for it, bu Breed/Weiner/others against it) is kind of weird but idk how many voters really take their marching orders from Breed and Weiner tbh. Whereas everyone I know thinks bajillionaire companies paying more to house the people they've misplaced is a no-brainer.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:17 (one year ago) link

uh wtf at the DST prop?

I'm really behind the times, yall are going to have to hold my hand as I fill out my ballot. The only ones that seem clear cut to me on first blush are 6 (NO) and 10 (YES).

Catherine Power (Leee), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:38 (one year ago) link

agreed on 6 and 10.

the DST prop changes nothing but it gives the legislature the right to consider and in principle make changes. DST kills a few people people every march. vote yes IMO on that one.

the bond measures (1-4) are all yeses for me.

prop 5 extends the infamous prop 13 (i.e. restricts localities ability to fund education by restricting their ability to tax massive real estate wealth). you could make the case that extends it to be fairer, but any extension of prop 13 makes the task of removing it politically tougher. so no on 5 IMO.

8 11 and 12 are classic examples of "What is the deal with all the ballot measures, isn't that what we pay these people for?" i guess i'd be yes on 8, no on 11 and yes on 12?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:48 (one year ago) link

Sent my ballot in the other day. Yeah C has been worth it just to see Benioff and Jack@Twitter complaining at each other in public.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:50 (one year ago) link

given the financial structure that tech VC encourage (i.e. avoid making a profit), i like that ballot measure C is a tax on revenue, not profits.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:51 (one year ago) link

caek did you go and get naturalized or somethin

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:54 (one year ago) link

no i can't vote, so i'm telling as many people as possible how to vote instead

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:55 (one year ago) link

that's very generous of you; if I couldn't vote I don't know how I could stand researching ballot measures

anyway not californian so y'all can do whatever as long as you don't come for our water

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:57 (one year ago) link

also lol at gerry brown's veto statement for the 4am last call option

https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/SB-905-Veto.pdf

"mischief and mayhem".

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:58 (one year ago) link

xp
He's the Frederik B of California!

nickn, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 18:02 (one year ago) link

ha i do live here fwiw

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 18:05 (one year ago) link

much as I find the Salesforce tower annoying (I work right next to it), I have to say this guy's allright. Or at least better than most.

Benioff and Salesforce have donated to multiple San Francisco Bay Area causes including $250 million to support hospitals, $11 million to help the homeless, and $50 million to public schools. In his talk, he acknowledges that some of city's business leaders haven't been as generous.

"I have gone hat in hand to every high net worth individual in the city," he said. "I know who is willing to give money, and who isn't. I already have the list. I know if we're going to raise money for our schools, the homeless and hospitals, there's a group of people in our city who are willing to give. And there's a group of people in the city who give nothing based on the level of wealth they have. You're either for the kids, the homeless and the hospitals, or you're for yourself."

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 18:52 (one year ago) link

graded on a curve he is easily the best of the bunch. SFDC has an obscure business relationship with ICE/CBP though.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:14 (one year ago) link

I have to admit I don't know what Salesforce does.

Catherine Power (Leee), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:16 (one year ago) link

Aside from putting their name on things around the city and buying Metallica.

Catherine Power (Leee), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:17 (one year ago) link

Salesforce makes Rolodex-as-a-Service for your entire company.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:23 (one year ago) link

considering the software they sell is basically a spreadsheet/database combo from the 90s, their research team is also bizarrely good at AI/ML, which is one of their reasons their involvement with CBP is unnerving.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:25 (one year ago) link

I've used a few Salesforce databases in my job and basically a spreadsheet/database combo from the 90s seems about accurate. tbf there was a huge need/demand for this, so their success is not really much of a surprise.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:46 (one year ago) link

Also it’s a federal election so off topic but it’s interesting because of the top two primary so: the congressional election where I live is between jimmy Gomez (democrat) and a Green Party guy. I believe this is the only two candidate congressional election involving the greens in the country. Based on the lawn signs and the number of times they’ve canvassed our home, the Green Party guy is going to run away with it. (He won’t. He’ll lose by like 40 points.)

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 02:49 (one year ago) link

I can't believe I am actually going to vote for Gavin Newsom for the first time in like 20 years? ... like I actually voted against him for Lt. Gov. because I hated him so much as SF Mayor and before that as appointed stooge to Willie Brown on the Board of Supes ...

otoh I'm kinda cool with Jerry Brown as governor, and I kinda hated him as mayor,

and actually a lot of the current bullshit in Oakland can kinda be laid at his feet, though not really. Like I don't think any one person can be held responsible for the incompetence, venality, and obstructionist idiocy that is a lot of Oakland government: the people that don't have to run for office, so they can be pretty much awful and stupid with few repercussions to their careers.

There's some new local version of Howard Jarvis Taxpayers sending out mailers to Oakland addresses arguing against voting for various property tax measures on principle.

Oh yeah, Yes on Measure Y -- extending Just Cause protection to people that live in duplexes and triplexes (as opposed to currently where it's like 4+ units)

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 05:54 (one year ago) link

yeah latimes had a lot of dirt on newsom a few months ago but he was still one of the favorites

i'm still registered to vote but i'm not in the country anymore, but i would vote for newsom

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 06:03 (one year ago) link

I'm with sarahell on the mixed feelings about Newsom. He is a guy who I *really* don't like or trust, even when a lot of his policy prescriptions and positions line up with mine. He's just a fucking slimeball that wants to be president really badly. Dunno if I will bother voting for him, he's almost certain to be the winner anyway.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:35 (one year ago) link

i remember being a local blogger about 10 or so years ago and my fave thing was comparing him to Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:37 (one year ago) link

I think he is also a big fan of Huey Lewis & the News iirc

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:38 (one year ago) link

I can't hate him, he stepped forward to support same-sex marriage at a time when most of the rest of the country was charging in the other direction

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:44 (one year ago) link

comparing him to Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman

yeah you weren't alone in this the similarity is just too eerie

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:54 (one year ago) link

he stepped forward to support same-sex marriage at a time when most of the rest of the country was charging in the other direction when it was most politically advantageous to him personally, handed the GOP a wedge-issue that helped get Dubya re-elected, resulted in the passage of Prop 8 in California actually *banning* gay marriage, and did not actually result in any valid gay marriages

fixed

that whole charade was nauseating, grandstanding at his worst. He knew he didn't have a legal leg to stand on and did it for the purposes of benefiting no one but himself.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:55 (one year ago) link

xp - even when in practice it was preaching to the choir and a high profile distraction from his pro-development/pro-corporate policies?

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:56 (one year ago) link

^^^

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:58 (one year ago) link

he has a history of this grandstanding, like when he wanted to improve the health of poor & working class San Franciscans by banning cigarette sales from chain stores with pharmacies -- that pretty much affected nothing except the ability to buy fairly low-priced cigarettes at Walgreen's stores. ... as opposed to walking a block or less to a liquor store and buying cigarettes

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:58 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55cG7EytB7M

omg I pulled up this video to show how fuckin obnoxious he was at the time and the closed captioning is wild

**APPLAUSE BY HOMOSEXUALS**

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:58 (one year ago) link

xp the conversation it started was a huge push forward for gay rights

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:59 (one year ago) link

i don't think he literally tried to feed a cat to an ATM tho

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:00 (one year ago) link

the conversation it started was a huge push forward for gay rights

he didn't start it - Alaska and Arizona already had gay marriage rulings on the books - he just made the splashiest (and emptiest) show about it. which is his modus operandi.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:03 (one year ago) link

xp Dan -- I'm not saying he's evil incarnate, just that it was a self-serving move. And it is often super useful to be reminded that in the central SF Bay Area, one lives in kinda a political bubble and that there is certain hair-splitting we do here, some more-progressive-than-thou type stuff, that looks ridiculous to most other Americans

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:04 (one year ago) link

Oh yeah, and Oakland has a mayoral election ...

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:05 (one year ago) link

Alaska and Arizona, come on. This *was* a big push forward.

Bush had already given his SOTU pressing for a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. Massachusetts was on track to start allowing marriages in May of that year. A backlash was going to happen in 2004. And Prop 8 was a direct response to the California Supreme Court recognizing marriage rights in 2008

agree that it was a partly self-serving move, but it was also a very good thing

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:11 (one year ago) link

yeah, on paper he has done all the right things, but you read into the details of his life and he is a total slimeball

thing is, how else would you vote if not on what he has done and the positives more or less outweigh the negatives

i feel like this single payer healthcare program was hyped a lot in california, but like it's crazy when you do the math

i'm not against it though

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:36 (one year ago) link

on paper he has done all the right things

not when he was mayor! he did a lot of not-right things

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:37 (one year ago) link

as mayor his sponsorship of Prop N (Care not Cash) was very controversial

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:46 (one year ago) link

yeah, i know what you mean

i guess i should say given the options

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:48 (one year ago) link

I agree that policy-wise I'm compelled to vote for him, more or less. At the same time, I absolutely hate watching him talk and prior to our current scandal-goalpost-moving POS chief exec I would have assumed Newsom was a lock for doing something scandalously unethical/illegal that would tank his career. I guess we're going to find out soon enough.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:51 (one year ago) link

Well when the alternative is John Cox...

Catherine Power (Leee), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:58 (one year ago) link

i was listening to an interview with scott weiner and he mentioned that brown had vetoed the 4am last call thing but he would bring it back next year and didn't expect any problems with newsom on that issue. there was then a weird moment where the interviewer and weiner acknowledged that yes, newsom is a known partier.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:17 (one year ago) link

a friend of mine/former journalist wrote a semi-autobiographical novel that briefly features an obvious Newsom character riding around in a limo drinking champagne, doing blow and engaging in bisexual hijinks

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:23 (one year ago) link

"That, in turn, should be the opening line of your novel.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:39 (one year ago) link

god damn i need a voter guide who tf are all these yahoo local judges speaking in code

the late great, Thursday, 18 October 2018 03:59 (one year ago) link

i forget, are you in LA?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 18 October 2018 04:20 (one year ago) link

-- Athletics
-- Badminton (singles)
-- Throwing a baseball or softball
-- BMX biking
-- Canoeing (singles)
-- Crabbing
-- Cycling
-- Exploring rock pools
-- Gardening (not in groups)
-- Golf (singles, walking – no cart)
-- Hiking (on trails and paths allowing distancing)
-- Horseback riding (singles)
-- Jogging and running
-- Kite boarding and kitesurfing
-- Meditation
-- Outdoor photography
-- Picnics (with your stay-home household members only)
-- Quad Biking
-- Rock Climbing
-- Roller Skating and Roller Blading
-- Rowing (singles)
-- Scootering (not in groups)
-- Skateboarding (not in groups)
-- Soft martial arts – Tai Chi, Chi Kung (not in groups)
-- Table tennis (singles)
-- Throw and catch an American mini football, Frisbee or Frisbee golf (not in groups)
-- Trail running
-- Trampolining
-- Tree climbing
-- Volleyball (singles)
-- Walk the dog
-- Wash the car
-- Watch the sunrise or sunset
-- Yoga

lol

lukas, Saturday, 2 May 2020 00:02 (three months ago) link

That CA 25th special election has gotten me down. wtf is wrong with democratic voters? I thought everyone was sent an absentee ballot. How hard is it to connect the two sides of ONE arrow with a pen and walk it to a mailbox?

Dan S, Thursday, 14 May 2020 00:13 (two months ago) link

Is that the district that will be re-run in 6 months?

I wouldn't put too much stock into it, esp. considering that's prime Rodney-King-juror country. There's always a bigger turnout in tandem with the Presidential election.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 14 May 2020 02:22 (two months ago) link

democrats outnumber republicans in that district. I guess I can’t get over how much democratic voters really don’t give a shit. it doesn’t bode well for november imo

Dan S, Thursday, 14 May 2020 02:31 (two months ago) link

"Democrat" seems to be the default now (slowly being overtaken by "Independent"). When you register Republican in California you are a true believer.

nickn, Thursday, 14 May 2020 02:34 (two months ago) link

by all means worry about november, but until 2018 that district has been republican since 1993. katie hill probably won thanks to state races on the ballot to pull in low information voters. and obviously the "scandal" was bullshit, but it didn't exactly tee the next democrat running for that seat up for success. democrats lose in CA plenty despite their registration advantage.

you want to be depressed, be depressed about lundquist losing the council seat up there back in march (also with a registration advantage). an LA council member has way more power than a freshman congressman (and represents more people iirc!) and the republican was credibly implicated in bribery days before the election. people don't vote!

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 14 May 2020 03:15 (two months ago) link

Simi Valley aside (only 17.6% of the district) this was a 21 point republican shift from Katie Hill’s win in 2018, in a swing district where registered democrats outnumber republicans and where the election was considered a toss-up

Dan S, Friday, 15 May 2020 01:48 (two months ago) link

the republican share of the vote increased by about 10 points, not 21 (which is the change in margin, and not the right way to think about it imo)

And it won’t be 10 points when the vote is in. It might be as small as 5.

And turnout was so low that Katie hill got like 100,000 more votes than GarcΓ­a.

It sucks the democrat lost but it doesn’t mean anything apart from that people don’t vote in special elections.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 15 May 2020 02:00 (two months ago) link

I didn’t check any of the numbers in that post btw haha

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 15 May 2020 02:03 (two months ago) link

well republicans apparently do vote in special elections

I don’t know about vote totals, I was was just going by Hill winning by 9% and so far then Garcia winning by 12%, maybe his lead will decrease as more votes are counted

but this is suburban LA, Santa Clarita is just over the hill from the San Fernando Valley

in the midst of this republican shit show

Dan S, Friday, 15 May 2020 02:20 (two months ago) link

well republicans apparently do vote in special elections

yeah -- I am guessing that a lot of the republicans skew older -- and it's also one of those "old people vote more than younger people" things -- like a lot of them are probably retired and voting in a special election is up there with senior discount day at IHOP in terms of things that give their dwindling days on this earth some meaning.

sarahell, Saturday, 16 May 2020 22:05 (two months ago) link

agree with that, but don’t see that seat going back to the democrats in november

Dan S, Saturday, 16 May 2020 22:40 (two months ago) link

Well it was the high water mark of a wave so probably not. Did the democrats flip a redder seat in California?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Sunday, 17 May 2020 01:44 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

here we go

New details on the arrest of L.A. Councilman Jose Huizar in an ongoing corruption probe: https://t.co/kspBK4Cbyv

— Emily Alpert Reyes (@AlpertReyes) June 23, 2020

he tried to have his wife replace him so he could continue doing crimes according to today's indictment, but she withdrew when he was first searched, so he's being replaced by kevin de leon. there's at least a couple more council people who might be implicated, along with the mayor's office. good times.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 20:25 (one month ago) link

Just came to post the ABC story (but on the LA thread).

nickn, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 20:27 (one month ago) link

#BREAKING Photos from the complaint show some of the cash prosecutors allege Councilman Jose Huizar and his associates received from developers to help push their projects through the city planning process. @SpecNews1SoCal pic.twitter.com/5WATbJtNef

— Natalie Brunell (@natbrunell) June 23, 2020

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 20:35 (one month ago) link

yeah maybe LA thread. what a world.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 20:35 (one month ago) link

I love when there's photographs of big bundles of money

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 20:36 (one month ago) link

And they literally found the money (~$130,000) in a closet at his house.

nickn, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 20:37 (one month ago) link

His office and home were raided by the FBI 19 months ago, **everyone** in LA government knew he was guilty, but the culture of incumbency protection is so powerful nobody said a word until multiple guilty pleas came in. So now a sitting Councilman is in lockup. Nice work gang https://t.co/TWhi5IzWSA

— Hayes Davenport (@hayesdavenport) June 23, 2020

an extremely good point!

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 20:48 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

There is absolutely nothing that warms my heart more than $3M homes that pay about 1 to 2 iPhone Pros in property taxes per year, for an effective property tax rate of 0.03%.

1 to 2 iPhone Pros per year!

All hail #Prop13! pic.twitter.com/2Ya1ZBied8

— Next door in Silicon Valley (@nextdoorsv) May 27, 2020

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 31 July 2020 04:56 (one week ago) link

caek, you seem to know what you're talking about, and I'm certainly not paying much attention to Sacramento these days - do you know if the state legislature has any momentum or likelihood or whatever to repeal or reform Prop 13 anytime soon? does Gavin have a position on it?

meanwhile I wish we could retire the prop number like a hall of famer's jersey (or just rename it the Howard Jarvis Arbitrary Assessment Initiative) so there's no more potential for ambiguity leading to things like the first failed school bond proposal in two decades (2020's Prop 13)

the burrito that defined a generation, Friday, 31 July 2020 15:15 (one week ago) link

There’s a ballot measure this year to repeal is for commercial property! Tactically this is supposed to be the thin end of the wedge to repeal the whole thing https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_15,_Tax_on_Commercial_and_Industrial_Properties_for_Education_and_Local_Government_Funding_Initiative_(2020).

I haven’t seen any polling but a measure that seemed like a fairly easy sell a year ago when they started seems like a tougher sell in a recession, so I’m not optimistic.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 31 July 2020 15:20 (one week ago) link

ah very cool! I didn't know this was on deck for November. you're probably right about any momentum being spoiled though.

the burrito that defined a generation, Friday, 31 July 2020 15:39 (one week ago) link

Lmao this thread rules

Jaw on the floor listening to SD planning commissioner @mcboomhower light up a neighborhood group opposing a new duplex. "When you say 'pride of ownership' that means 'we don't want renters. If you can't afford to buy in our lovely little neighborhood, we don't want you here.'"

— Kenneth Stahl πŸŒ‡ (@kookie13) July 31, 2020

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Saturday, 1 August 2020 16:37 (one week ago) link

awesome

need more of this

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 August 2020 17:09 (one week ago) link

they are opposing -- a duplex -- good grief.

meanwhile, I get fb ads for houses and real estate a lot, and I got one yesterday advertising a duplex that is "planned to be vacant" at 9th and Wood in West Oakland. ... Later that evening I had to drop stuff in the mail at the main post office a few blocks away from said address, so I ended up driving by this spot. ... I had forgotten the exact character of 9th and Wood and the few blocks up/down from it ... but when I drove by, I was like, OH SHIIIT YEAH the corner of 8th and Wood is where the liquor store is where everyone hangs out across the street -- some hanging, some slinging ... and the block of 9th and Wood is the frequent site of stuffed animal infused altars to victims of "gun violence" ... and I forget what my point is here, but, yeah, duplexes ... does the neighborhood group in SD believe that the inherent nature of "the duplex" will transplant the people and problems of 9th and Wood in West Oakland to their neighborhood??

sarahell, Saturday, 1 August 2020 17:59 (one week ago) link

booming comment from boomhower! stickin it to the NIMBYs in the name of strict municipal code interpretation

as it happens I'm working on a fancy mile-long grade-separated bike lane construction project that will be going to that very same La Jolla community planning group for approval in about six months. by the sound of it he may not be as supportive as he is for this duplex, since the construction of the bike lane involves multiple deviations from the municipal code for the construction of a retaining wall and a quarter acre of wetland impacts resulting from having to widen the road itself to meet Caltrans code for the installation of a bike lane!

no big deal if the community planning group rejects it, we've only spent a few years/millions designing it already

the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 1 August 2020 18:25 (one week ago) link

Regarding Prop 13:

Prior to 1978, corporate landowners paid about two-thirds of statewide property tax revenues; homeowners paid about one-third. Proposition 13 flipped that equation to where homeowners paid two-thirds and corporations one-third.

Read more here: https://www.sanluisobispo.com/opinion/readers-opinion/article156302674.html#storylink=cpy

locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Saturday, 1 August 2020 18:37 (one week ago) link

xp - CA muni code is impressively convoluted and in some cases requires a lot of mental gymnastics to try and accommodate all the provisions in all the separate code chapters! ... A few months ago I spent quality time trying to figure out what exactly are the code requirements for live/work housing ... geez. But I am definitely rooting for you, burrito!! I haven't spent much time in that area of SD, but your project sounds super necessary and useful, considering the terrain and sprawl

sarahell, Saturday, 1 August 2020 18:52 (one week ago) link

appreciate the rooting, and it is a good project. mostly. unless you start thinking about other ways the money could be spent. but that's none of my business

CA muni code is impressively convoluted

tell me about it!

https://i.imgur.com/n1lLLM8.png

the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 1 August 2020 19:06 (one week ago) link

Okay, I'm dying to know ... what does Section 143.0150 say?!!!!!!

sarahell, Saturday, 1 August 2020 19:08 (one week ago) link

*popcorn.gif*

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:38 (two days ago) link

any odds/betting sites have this action?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:38 (two days ago) link

Β§143.0150 Deviations from Environmentally Sensitive Lands Regulations
Plans submitted in accordance with this section shall, to the maximum extent feasible,
comply with the regulations of this division. If a proposed development does not
comply with all applicable development regulations of this division and a deviation is
requested as indicated in Table 143-01A, the decision maker may approve,
conditionally approve, or deny the proposed Site Development Permit in accordance
with the following:
(a) Deviations from the regulations of this division may be granted only if the
decision maker makes the findings in Section 126.0504(c).
(b) Deviations from the Supplemental Regulations for Special Flood Hazard
Areas in Section 143.0146 may be granted only if the decision maker makes
the findings in Section 126.0504(d).
(c) Within the Coastal Overlay Zone, deviations from the Environmentally
Sensitive Lands Regulations may be granted only if the decision maker makes
the findings in Section 126.0708.
(d) Deviations to the wetland regulations in Section 143.0141(b) shall not be
granted unless the development is located outside of the Coastal Overlay Zone
and qualifies to be processed as one of the three options set forth in the
following regulations and in accordance with the Biology Guidelines in the
Land Development Manual:
(1) Essential Public Projects Option
(A) A deviation may only be requested for an Essential Public
Project where no feasible alternative exists that would avoid
impacts to wetlands.
(B) For the purpose of this section, Essential Public Projects shall
include:
(i) Any public project identified in an adopted land use
plan or implementing document and identified on the
Essential Public Projects List adopted by Resolution
No. R-307377 as Appendix III to the Biology
Guidelines; or
Ch. Art. Div.
14 3 1 47
San Diego Municipal Code Chapter 14: General Regulations
(2-2020)
(ii) Linear infrastructure, including but not limited to major
roads and land use plan circulation element roads and
facilities including bike lanes, water and sewer
pipelines including appurtenances, and stormwater
conveyance systems including appurtenances; or
(iii) Maintenance of existing public infrastructure; or
(iv) State and federally mandated projects.
(2) Economic Viability Option
A deviation may be requested to preserve economically viable use of a
property that would otherwise be deprived by a strict application of the
regulations. Such a deviation shall be the minimum necessary to
achieve economically viable use of the property and shall avoid
wetland resources to the maximum extent practicable.
(3) Biologically Superior Option
(A) A deviation may be requested to achieve a superior biological
result which would provide long term biological benefit and a
net increase in quality and viability (functions and value),
relative to existing conditions or the project originally
proposed by the applicant, and long term biological benefit.
(B) Wetland resources that would be impacted by the project shall
be demonstrated to be of low biological quality.
(Amended 4-22-2002 by O-19051 N.S.; effective 10-8-2002.)
(Amended 5-7-2012 by O-20161 N.S.; effective 6-6-2012.)
(Amended 2-9-2018 by O-20899 N.S.; effective 3-11-2018.)

Stab Delimited (sarahell), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:43 (two days ago) link

does anyone want to learn about affordable housing density bonus regulations?

Stab Delimited (sarahell), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:45 (two days ago) link

If Kamala Harris is elected vice president, Gavin Newsom gets to appoint a new California senator. Who could it be? ⁦@philwillon⁩ https://t.co/SFcaqRvaWl

— Laura J. Nelson πŸ¦… (@laura_nelson) August 11, 2020

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:51 (two days ago) link

Newsom himself!

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:51 (two days ago) link

he wants to be president

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:52 (two days ago) link

yeah no way is Gavin gonna give up being governor to be a senator ...

sarahell, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:55 (two days ago) link

I think it's gonna be either:

Schiff
Lee
Porter
Breed
or
Newsom

Need some oddsmakers to chime in!

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:58 (two days ago) link

i guess it's politically impossible for him to pick the person who is in some ways next in line by virtue of his strong performance in the runoff with feinstein, i.e. kevin de leon because, well, he tried to primary feinstein.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:59 (two days ago) link

it better not be garcetti

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:01 (two days ago) link

it's going to be that turd schiff isn't it

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:05 (two days ago) link

what about the woman who lost to Harris in the election -- it was super close?

though my preference would be Libby Schaaf -- take my mayor ... please!

sarahell, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:07 (two days ago) link

though if he picks Barbara Lee, then maybe we can "upgrade" one of our less appealing City Council members ... oh Lynette G-M ... please seek higher office.

sarahell, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:09 (two days ago) link

though it would be "hilarious" if Gavin chose his patron, Willie Brown ...

sarahell, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:11 (two days ago) link

lol

Given that Uber rides have cratered during the pandemic, I wonder if people will care about this threat as much as they would have, say, a year ago https://t.co/MtQrfcUYdI

— Laura J. Nelson πŸ¦… (@laura_nelson) August 12, 2020

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 16:49 (yesterday) link

iirc spending (almost entirely from uber/lyft/doordash etc.) on the AB5 ballot measure is ~$110m. spending on prop 15 (the actual big deal about split roll property tax) is like 10% of that. to zuck's credit, almost all the pro-prop 15 money comes from his foundation.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 16:52 (yesterday) link

Anyway I nominate caek to be our senator.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 16:57 (yesterday) link


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