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What's up this year? Lots!

- The housing crisis, Prop 10 and SB 827 (RIP (for now))
- Prop 5 (and the hope of a split roll measure in a couple of years?!)
- Prop 6 (lol this is going to lose I hope)
- When did Gavin Newsom disappoint you first?
- Feinstein vs De Leon (lol) and the state democratic party
- The state republican party (lol)
- Ballot Measure C in SF (this one seems nuts!)
- What is the deal with all the ballot measures, isn't that what we pay these people for?
- high speed rail (lol)
- single payer (lol)

Let's talk about it!

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 14:57 (two years ago) link

someone explain SF measure C to me? is it doomed now breed, weiner, etc. are against it?

re: ballot measure 6, is apparently a lost cause at this point, ha, http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-california-gas-tax-repeal-campaign-cash-20180930-story.html. but prop 10 is not polling well either (and is kind of a mess legislatively as i understand it): https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article219033985.html.

LA measure B (city bank) is cool btw, and the LA times sucks for opposing it.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 15:01 (two years ago) link

I have no idea what's going to happen to measure C but I hope it passes. The split on the Dem side (Pelosi and various supervisors for it, bu Breed/Weiner/others against it) is kind of weird but idk how many voters really take their marching orders from Breed and Weiner tbh. Whereas everyone I know thinks bajillionaire companies paying more to house the people they've misplaced is a no-brainer.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:17 (two years ago) link

uh wtf at the DST prop?

I'm really behind the times, yall are going to have to hold my hand as I fill out my ballot. The only ones that seem clear cut to me on first blush are 6 (NO) and 10 (YES).

Catherine Power (Leee), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:38 (two years ago) link

agreed on 6 and 10.

the DST prop changes nothing but it gives the legislature the right to consider and in principle make changes. DST kills a few people people every march. vote yes IMO on that one.

the bond measures (1-4) are all yeses for me.

prop 5 extends the infamous prop 13 (i.e. restricts localities ability to fund education by restricting their ability to tax massive real estate wealth). you could make the case that extends it to be fairer, but any extension of prop 13 makes the task of removing it politically tougher. so no on 5 IMO.

8 11 and 12 are classic examples of "What is the deal with all the ballot measures, isn't that what we pay these people for?" i guess i'd be yes on 8, no on 11 and yes on 12?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:48 (two years ago) link

Sent my ballot in the other day. Yeah C has been worth it just to see Benioff and Jack@Twitter complaining at each other in public.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:50 (two years ago) link

given the financial structure that tech VC encourage (i.e. avoid making a profit), i like that ballot measure C is a tax on revenue, not profits.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:51 (two years ago) link

caek did you go and get naturalized or somethin

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:54 (two years ago) link

no i can't vote, so i'm telling as many people as possible how to vote instead

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:55 (two years ago) link

that's very generous of you; if I couldn't vote I don't know how I could stand researching ballot measures

anyway not californian so y'all can do whatever as long as you don't come for our water

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:57 (two years ago) link

also lol at gerry brown's veto statement for the 4am last call option

https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/SB-905-Veto.pdf

"mischief and mayhem".

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:58 (two years ago) link

xp
He's the Frederik B of California!

nickn, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 18:02 (two years ago) link

ha i do live here fwiw

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 18:05 (two years ago) link

much as I find the Salesforce tower annoying (I work right next to it), I have to say this guy's allright. Or at least better than most.

Benioff and Salesforce have donated to multiple San Francisco Bay Area causes including $250 million to support hospitals, $11 million to help the homeless, and $50 million to public schools. In his talk, he acknowledges that some of city's business leaders haven't been as generous.

"I have gone hat in hand to every high net worth individual in the city," he said. "I know who is willing to give money, and who isn't. I already have the list. I know if we're going to raise money for our schools, the homeless and hospitals, there's a group of people in our city who are willing to give. And there's a group of people in the city who give nothing based on the level of wealth they have. You're either for the kids, the homeless and the hospitals, or you're for yourself."

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 18:52 (two years ago) link

graded on a curve he is easily the best of the bunch. SFDC has an obscure business relationship with ICE/CBP though.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:14 (two years ago) link

I have to admit I don't know what Salesforce does.

Catherine Power (Leee), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:16 (two years ago) link

Aside from putting their name on things around the city and buying Metallica.

Catherine Power (Leee), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:17 (two years ago) link

Salesforce makes Rolodex-as-a-Service for your entire company.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:23 (two years ago) link

considering the software they sell is basically a spreadsheet/database combo from the 90s, their research team is also bizarrely good at AI/ML, which is one of their reasons their involvement with CBP is unnerving.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:25 (two years ago) link

I've used a few Salesforce databases in my job and basically a spreadsheet/database combo from the 90s seems about accurate. tbf there was a huge need/demand for this, so their success is not really much of a surprise.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:46 (two years ago) link

Also it’s a federal election so off topic but it’s interesting because of the top two primary so: the congressional election where I live is between jimmy Gomez (democrat) and a Green Party guy. I believe this is the only two candidate congressional election involving the greens in the country. Based on the lawn signs and the number of times they’ve canvassed our home, the Green Party guy is going to run away with it. (He won’t. He’ll lose by like 40 points.)

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 02:49 (two years ago) link

I can't believe I am actually going to vote for Gavin Newsom for the first time in like 20 years? ... like I actually voted against him for Lt. Gov. because I hated him so much as SF Mayor and before that as appointed stooge to Willie Brown on the Board of Supes ...

otoh I'm kinda cool with Jerry Brown as governor, and I kinda hated him as mayor,

and actually a lot of the current bullshit in Oakland can kinda be laid at his feet, though not really. Like I don't think any one person can be held responsible for the incompetence, venality, and obstructionist idiocy that is a lot of Oakland government: the people that don't have to run for office, so they can be pretty much awful and stupid with few repercussions to their careers.

There's some new local version of Howard Jarvis Taxpayers sending out mailers to Oakland addresses arguing against voting for various property tax measures on principle.

Oh yeah, Yes on Measure Y -- extending Just Cause protection to people that live in duplexes and triplexes (as opposed to currently where it's like 4+ units)

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 05:54 (two years ago) link

yeah latimes had a lot of dirt on newsom a few months ago but he was still one of the favorites

i'm still registered to vote but i'm not in the country anymore, but i would vote for newsom

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 06:03 (two years ago) link

I'm with sarahell on the mixed feelings about Newsom. He is a guy who I *really* don't like or trust, even when a lot of his policy prescriptions and positions line up with mine. He's just a fucking slimeball that wants to be president really badly. Dunno if I will bother voting for him, he's almost certain to be the winner anyway.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:35 (two years ago) link

i remember being a local blogger about 10 or so years ago and my fave thing was comparing him to Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:37 (two years ago) link

I think he is also a big fan of Huey Lewis & the News iirc

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:38 (two years ago) link

I can't hate him, he stepped forward to support same-sex marriage at a time when most of the rest of the country was charging in the other direction

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:44 (two years ago) link

comparing him to Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman

yeah you weren't alone in this the similarity is just too eerie

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:54 (two years ago) link

he stepped forward to support same-sex marriage at a time when most of the rest of the country was charging in the other direction when it was most politically advantageous to him personally, handed the GOP a wedge-issue that helped get Dubya re-elected, resulted in the passage of Prop 8 in California actually *banning* gay marriage, and did not actually result in any valid gay marriages

fixed

that whole charade was nauseating, grandstanding at his worst. He knew he didn't have a legal leg to stand on and did it for the purposes of benefiting no one but himself.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:55 (two years ago) link

xp - even when in practice it was preaching to the choir and a high profile distraction from his pro-development/pro-corporate policies?

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:56 (two years ago) link

^^^

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:58 (two years ago) link

he has a history of this grandstanding, like when he wanted to improve the health of poor & working class San Franciscans by banning cigarette sales from chain stores with pharmacies -- that pretty much affected nothing except the ability to buy fairly low-priced cigarettes at Walgreen's stores. ... as opposed to walking a block or less to a liquor store and buying cigarettes

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:58 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55cG7EytB7M

omg I pulled up this video to show how fuckin obnoxious he was at the time and the closed captioning is wild

**APPLAUSE BY HOMOSEXUALS**

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:58 (two years ago) link

xp the conversation it started was a huge push forward for gay rights

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:59 (two years ago) link

i don't think he literally tried to feed a cat to an ATM tho

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:00 (two years ago) link

the conversation it started was a huge push forward for gay rights

he didn't start it - Alaska and Arizona already had gay marriage rulings on the books - he just made the splashiest (and emptiest) show about it. which is his modus operandi.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:03 (two years ago) link

xp Dan -- I'm not saying he's evil incarnate, just that it was a self-serving move. And it is often super useful to be reminded that in the central SF Bay Area, one lives in kinda a political bubble and that there is certain hair-splitting we do here, some more-progressive-than-thou type stuff, that looks ridiculous to most other Americans

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:04 (two years ago) link

Oh yeah, and Oakland has a mayoral election ...

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:05 (two years ago) link

Alaska and Arizona, come on. This *was* a big push forward.

Bush had already given his SOTU pressing for a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. Massachusetts was on track to start allowing marriages in May of that year. A backlash was going to happen in 2004. And Prop 8 was a direct response to the California Supreme Court recognizing marriage rights in 2008

agree that it was a partly self-serving move, but it was also a very good thing

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:11 (two years ago) link

yeah, on paper he has done all the right things, but you read into the details of his life and he is a total slimeball

thing is, how else would you vote if not on what he has done and the positives more or less outweigh the negatives

i feel like this single payer healthcare program was hyped a lot in california, but like it's crazy when you do the math

i'm not against it though

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:36 (two years ago) link

on paper he has done all the right things

not when he was mayor! he did a lot of not-right things

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:37 (two years ago) link

as mayor his sponsorship of Prop N (Care not Cash) was very controversial

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:46 (two years ago) link

yeah, i know what you mean

i guess i should say given the options

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:48 (two years ago) link

I agree that policy-wise I'm compelled to vote for him, more or less. At the same time, I absolutely hate watching him talk and prior to our current scandal-goalpost-moving POS chief exec I would have assumed Newsom was a lock for doing something scandalously unethical/illegal that would tank his career. I guess we're going to find out soon enough.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:51 (two years ago) link

Well when the alternative is John Cox...

Catherine Power (Leee), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:58 (two years ago) link

i was listening to an interview with scott weiner and he mentioned that brown had vetoed the 4am last call thing but he would bring it back next year and didn't expect any problems with newsom on that issue. there was then a weird moment where the interviewer and weiner acknowledged that yes, newsom is a known partier.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:17 (two years ago) link

a friend of mine/former journalist wrote a semi-autobiographical novel that briefly features an obvious Newsom character riding around in a limo drinking champagne, doing blow and engaging in bisexual hijinks

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:23 (two years ago) link

"That, in turn, should be the opening line of your novel.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:39 (two years ago) link

god damn i need a voter guide who tf are all these yahoo local judges speaking in code

the late great, Thursday, 18 October 2018 03:59 (two years ago) link

i forget, are you in LA?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 18 October 2018 04:20 (two years ago) link

Yes, but he is a conduit to counter the bullshit that Newsom is spewing. Enemy of your enemy, etc.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 19:59 (two months ago) link

(in this case, he's not on my radar at all)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 20:04 (two months ago) link

gosh i really expected so much better from the guy who divorced kim guilfoyle at 39 to hook up w 19 year old brittanie mountz

the late great, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 20:09 (two months ago) link

Sure. Just be aware that he’s an β€œpublic safety”/law and order right win muckraker who is obviously aiming for promotion to national Fox News or whatever trump does next, and whose main source is the Los Angeles sherrifs department, whose leaks he credulously broadcasts.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 20:10 (two months ago) link

i think brittanie does marriage counseling now lol

buzza, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 20:50 (two months ago) link

i will never get tired of bringing her up, sorry not sorry

the late great, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 21:16 (two months ago) link

Joanna Newsom's cousin is a shit (allegedly)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 21:19 (two months ago) link

i will never get tired of bringing her up, sorry not sorry

― the late great, Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:16 PM (thirty-one minutes ago)

her name is the pierre delecto of SF politics

sarahell, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 21:49 (two months ago) link

curfew!!!

sarahell, Friday, 20 November 2020 19:16 (two months ago) link

LOL yeah right

the late great, Friday, 20 November 2020 20:14 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Welp, looks like we're back on lockdown until 2021 (Jan 4th).

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 4 December 2020 21:18 (one month ago) link

Actually looking forward to no obligations for Christmas ... thank you for cancelling Xmas, Gavin!

sarahell, Friday, 4 December 2020 22:21 (one month ago) link

me too!

Dan S, Saturday, 5 December 2020 01:08 (one month ago) link

I spent the morning and early afternoon today wrapping presents, writing letters, and packing secure gift boxes to send to my loved ones, which I will take to UPS tomorrow, but I'm relieved not having to fly or drive or risk my life to please relatives or friends

Dan S, Saturday, 5 December 2020 01:26 (one month ago) link

Wow you are way more on top of the holiday season than I am ... I'm like, "that one year where we did Christmas in January because I got the flu on Christmas Eve and slept for two days straight? That was a good Christmas."

sarahell, Saturday, 5 December 2020 02:52 (one month ago) link

lol

Dan S, Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:02 (one month ago) link

I am worried about people in my life, how they are handling this

Dan S, Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:12 (one month ago) link

in OR not CA but yeah, me too. family in Humboldt.

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:12 (one month ago) link

and Long Beach... stepson & his wife get tested every week

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:13 (one month ago) link

There goes one of the possible senate picks https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/06/us/politics/xavier-becerra-hhs-health-secretary.html

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Sunday, 6 December 2020 22:56 (one month ago) link

Still feel like me and many of my savvy progressive friends are like, "Please take our centrist city officials and appoint them to higher office!" ... C'mon Biden / Gavin -- Libby Schaaf really deserves to move up and out!

sarahell, Sunday, 6 December 2020 23:03 (one month ago) link

Oakland's City Attorney just won re-election -- she definitely deserves a job at the state level

sarahell, Sunday, 6 December 2020 23:03 (one month ago) link

Libby didn't get caught eating at French Laundry either !!!

sarahell, Sunday, 6 December 2020 23:04 (one month ago) link

It looks a lot like Garcetti is going to get transportation by being β€œnot Rahm Emmanuel”

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Sunday, 6 December 2020 23:08 (one month ago) link

normal system

part of the reason Newsom was holding off on naming Harris's replacement for the Senate was his awareness that there was a chance of Becerra's HHS nomination, and that he'd potentially get a chance to balance these appointments

— Edward-Isaac Dovere (@IsaacDovere) December 6, 2020

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Monday, 7 December 2020 00:02 (one month ago) link

if he appoints Padilla to the Senate then he will get to replace two state-wide offices. I don't know much about Padilla, I voted for him for Secretary of State but he hasn't been a real personality in California politics for the general public as far as I know.

Not sure who I hope he names to the Senate

Dan S, Monday, 7 December 2020 00:20 (one month ago) link

https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2020/12/06/california-exits-give-newsom-rare-chance-to-pick-3-high-profile-leaders-1342605

the fact that this is so rare is a measure of how little success california democrats have had nationally.

absolutely insane way of running a state btw.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Monday, 7 December 2020 03:57 (one month ago) link

what are you talking about, california democrats have had amazing success

Dan S, Monday, 7 December 2020 04:14 (one month ago) link

and Newsom is running the state well and is trying to protect us as far as I can see

Dan S, Monday, 7 December 2020 04:29 (one month ago) link

none of these articles about the Senate seat explain the process if a sitting Congressperson gets appointed Senator -- does the Governor then appoint their replacement? Is there a special election? ... Anyway, I actually agree with Willie Brown and think it should be between Barbara Lee, Maxine Waters, and Karen Bass ... guessing the latter two also represent districts where the Democrat would have to be like a convicted pedophile or sadistic sex criminal in order for a Republican to win.

sarahell, Monday, 7 December 2020 04:33 (one month ago) link

what are you talking about, california democrats have had amazing success

― Dan S, Sunday, December 6, 2020 8:14 PM (nineteen minutes ago)

pretty sure caek means in terms of becoming President or Vice-President or holding major cabinet posts ... California Republicans historically have done so, but Democrats, not really (at least as far back as when the Democrats were to the "left" of Republicans before they swapped)

sarahell, Monday, 7 December 2020 04:37 (one month ago) link

in terns of becoming "president or vice president or holding major cabinet posts"

it's Christmas so I'm really inclined to fantasize

Dan S, Monday, 7 December 2020 05:08 (one month ago) link

yes, that's what i mean, xp

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Monday, 7 December 2020 05:33 (one month ago) link

none of these articles about the Senate seat explain the process if a sitting Congressperson gets appointed Senator -- does the Governor then appoint their replacement? Is there a special election?

i don't have a link but i'm pretty sure that if a congressperson gets appointed senator (or otherwise quits their seat) then there is a special election (which is one of the many arguments why katie porter in orange county should not be given the senate, because they will lose her seat).

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Monday, 7 December 2020 05:36 (one month ago) link

and Newsom is running the state well and is trying to protect us as far as I can see

― Dan S, Sunday, December 6, 2020 11:29 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

ok!

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Monday, 7 December 2020 05:36 (one month ago) link

does anyone know how the covid exposure tracking app stuff works? specifically, do you need to be around someone who tests positive for a certain length of time? i'd hate to get a notification and feel morally obligated to quarantine (rather than just normal distancing) because i walked by someone on the street who tested positive.

lukas, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:42 (one month ago) link

ha I think my bff's daughter was actually a programmer on one of them (or something related to it) and it was kinda badly engineered/thought through? ... This was a few months ago though. Maybe it got improved.

sarahell, Friday, 11 December 2020 00:55 (one month ago) link

Here's what I got from my coworker who is working on this:

"They use various parameters like RSSI, contact duration , TX Power level of the sender etc to compute this contact and then rate then compute score, Risk level, risk weight etc."

DJI, Friday, 11 December 2020 18:03 (one month ago) link

NEW FEC F1#CASEN
Alex Padilla for Senatehttps://t.co/lOoaq5gJGd pic.twitter.com/QQwOeWgIPG

— CATargetBot (@CATargetBot) December 22, 2020

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:53 (four weeks ago) link

the first of many

Wow that was fast.

Vons firing unionized drivers, switching to Doordash β€œafter the passage of Proposition 22, which gutted worker protections while making it easier for companies to shift financial burdens onto newly-designated independent contractors.”https://t.co/yyUYfZw9UY

— Kiera Feldman (@kierafeldman) January 4, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:28 (two weeks ago) link

good luck usa

is right unfortunately (silby), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:23 (two weeks ago) link

I think this is good?

DJI, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 00:32 (two weeks ago) link

I agree that it is good, and a few of the public members are people I know and trust. Hopefully it can be built into something that has leverage.

fajita seas, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 03:26 (two weeks ago) link

Some restaurants in my area are switching back to direct delivery which I think is pretty cool.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:51 (two weeks ago) link

CALIFORNIA. US Sen Dianne Feinstein (D) has filed FEC paperwork to seek reelection in 2024 to a six year term ... when she will be 91 years old. https://t.co/OQUWaDOCLB

— Politics1.com (@Politics1com) January 13, 2021

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:33 (one week ago) link

FFS

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:38 (one week ago) link

That’s so she can raise money legally. It doesn’t mean she’s running.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:42 (one week ago) link

maybe instead of running again, Biden can make her an ambassador somewhere nice, like France.

sarahell, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 19:39 (one week ago) link

or florida

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 20:04 (one week ago) link

I have a favor to ask. My Senator Feinstein thinks that Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley who spurred the insurrection should be allowed to remain in Congress. She doesn’t move on anything until she hears from 4000 voters. Call 202-224-3121 and demand their removal. Pls RT

— ChristineP (@ChristineParini) January 19, 2021

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:00 (two days ago) link


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