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What's up this year? Lots!

- The housing crisis, Prop 10 and SB 827 (RIP (for now))
- Prop 5 (and the hope of a split roll measure in a couple of years?!)
- Prop 6 (lol this is going to lose I hope)
- When did Gavin Newsom disappoint you first?
- Feinstein vs De Leon (lol) and the state democratic party
- The state republican party (lol)
- Ballot Measure C in SF (this one seems nuts!)
- What is the deal with all the ballot measures, isn't that what we pay these people for?
- high speed rail (lol)
- single payer (lol)

Let's talk about it!

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 14:57 (two years ago) link

someone explain SF measure C to me? is it doomed now breed, weiner, etc. are against it?

re: ballot measure 6, is apparently a lost cause at this point, ha, http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-california-gas-tax-repeal-campaign-cash-20180930-story.html. but prop 10 is not polling well either (and is kind of a mess legislatively as i understand it): https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article219033985.html.

LA measure B (city bank) is cool btw, and the LA times sucks for opposing it.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 15:01 (two years ago) link

I have no idea what's going to happen to measure C but I hope it passes. The split on the Dem side (Pelosi and various supervisors for it, bu Breed/Weiner/others against it) is kind of weird but idk how many voters really take their marching orders from Breed and Weiner tbh. Whereas everyone I know thinks bajillionaire companies paying more to house the people they've misplaced is a no-brainer.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:17 (two years ago) link

uh wtf at the DST prop?

I'm really behind the times, yall are going to have to hold my hand as I fill out my ballot. The only ones that seem clear cut to me on first blush are 6 (NO) and 10 (YES).

Catherine Power (Leee), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:38 (two years ago) link

agreed on 6 and 10.

the DST prop changes nothing but it gives the legislature the right to consider and in principle make changes. DST kills a few people people every march. vote yes IMO on that one.

the bond measures (1-4) are all yeses for me.

prop 5 extends the infamous prop 13 (i.e. restricts localities ability to fund education by restricting their ability to tax massive real estate wealth). you could make the case that extends it to be fairer, but any extension of prop 13 makes the task of removing it politically tougher. so no on 5 IMO.

8 11 and 12 are classic examples of "What is the deal with all the ballot measures, isn't that what we pay these people for?" i guess i'd be yes on 8, no on 11 and yes on 12?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:48 (two years ago) link

Sent my ballot in the other day. Yeah C has been worth it just to see Benioff and Jack@Twitter complaining at each other in public.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:50 (two years ago) link

given the financial structure that tech VC encourage (i.e. avoid making a profit), i like that ballot measure C is a tax on revenue, not profits.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:51 (two years ago) link

caek did you go and get naturalized or somethin

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:54 (two years ago) link

no i can't vote, so i'm telling as many people as possible how to vote instead

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:55 (two years ago) link

that's very generous of you; if I couldn't vote I don't know how I could stand researching ballot measures

anyway not californian so y'all can do whatever as long as you don't come for our water

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:57 (two years ago) link

also lol at gerry brown's veto statement for the 4am last call option

https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/SB-905-Veto.pdf

"mischief and mayhem".

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:58 (two years ago) link

xp
He's the Frederik B of California!

nickn, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 18:02 (two years ago) link

ha i do live here fwiw

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 18:05 (two years ago) link

much as I find the Salesforce tower annoying (I work right next to it), I have to say this guy's allright. Or at least better than most.

Benioff and Salesforce have donated to multiple San Francisco Bay Area causes including $250 million to support hospitals, $11 million to help the homeless, and $50 million to public schools. In his talk, he acknowledges that some of city's business leaders haven't been as generous.

"I have gone hat in hand to every high net worth individual in the city," he said. "I know who is willing to give money, and who isn't. I already have the list. I know if we're going to raise money for our schools, the homeless and hospitals, there's a group of people in our city who are willing to give. And there's a group of people in the city who give nothing based on the level of wealth they have. You're either for the kids, the homeless and the hospitals, or you're for yourself."

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 18:52 (two years ago) link

graded on a curve he is easily the best of the bunch. SFDC has an obscure business relationship with ICE/CBP though.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:14 (two years ago) link

I have to admit I don't know what Salesforce does.

Catherine Power (Leee), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:16 (two years ago) link

Aside from putting their name on things around the city and buying Metallica.

Catherine Power (Leee), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:17 (two years ago) link

Salesforce makes Rolodex-as-a-Service for your entire company.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:23 (two years ago) link

considering the software they sell is basically a spreadsheet/database combo from the 90s, their research team is also bizarrely good at AI/ML, which is one of their reasons their involvement with CBP is unnerving.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:25 (two years ago) link

I've used a few Salesforce databases in my job and basically a spreadsheet/database combo from the 90s seems about accurate. tbf there was a huge need/demand for this, so their success is not really much of a surprise.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:46 (two years ago) link

Also it’s a federal election so off topic but it’s interesting because of the top two primary so: the congressional election where I live is between jimmy Gomez (democrat) and a Green Party guy. I believe this is the only two candidate congressional election involving the greens in the country. Based on the lawn signs and the number of times they’ve canvassed our home, the Green Party guy is going to run away with it. (He won’t. He’ll lose by like 40 points.)

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 02:49 (two years ago) link

I can't believe I am actually going to vote for Gavin Newsom for the first time in like 20 years? ... like I actually voted against him for Lt. Gov. because I hated him so much as SF Mayor and before that as appointed stooge to Willie Brown on the Board of Supes ...

otoh I'm kinda cool with Jerry Brown as governor, and I kinda hated him as mayor,

and actually a lot of the current bullshit in Oakland can kinda be laid at his feet, though not really. Like I don't think any one person can be held responsible for the incompetence, venality, and obstructionist idiocy that is a lot of Oakland government: the people that don't have to run for office, so they can be pretty much awful and stupid with few repercussions to their careers.

There's some new local version of Howard Jarvis Taxpayers sending out mailers to Oakland addresses arguing against voting for various property tax measures on principle.

Oh yeah, Yes on Measure Y -- extending Just Cause protection to people that live in duplexes and triplexes (as opposed to currently where it's like 4+ units)

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 05:54 (two years ago) link

yeah latimes had a lot of dirt on newsom a few months ago but he was still one of the favorites

i'm still registered to vote but i'm not in the country anymore, but i would vote for newsom

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 06:03 (two years ago) link

I'm with sarahell on the mixed feelings about Newsom. He is a guy who I *really* don't like or trust, even when a lot of his policy prescriptions and positions line up with mine. He's just a fucking slimeball that wants to be president really badly. Dunno if I will bother voting for him, he's almost certain to be the winner anyway.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:35 (two years ago) link

i remember being a local blogger about 10 or so years ago and my fave thing was comparing him to Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:37 (two years ago) link

I think he is also a big fan of Huey Lewis & the News iirc

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:38 (two years ago) link

I can't hate him, he stepped forward to support same-sex marriage at a time when most of the rest of the country was charging in the other direction

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:44 (two years ago) link

comparing him to Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman

yeah you weren't alone in this the similarity is just too eerie

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:54 (two years ago) link

he stepped forward to support same-sex marriage at a time when most of the rest of the country was charging in the other direction when it was most politically advantageous to him personally, handed the GOP a wedge-issue that helped get Dubya re-elected, resulted in the passage of Prop 8 in California actually *banning* gay marriage, and did not actually result in any valid gay marriages

fixed

that whole charade was nauseating, grandstanding at his worst. He knew he didn't have a legal leg to stand on and did it for the purposes of benefiting no one but himself.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:55 (two years ago) link

xp - even when in practice it was preaching to the choir and a high profile distraction from his pro-development/pro-corporate policies?

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:56 (two years ago) link

^^^

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:58 (two years ago) link

he has a history of this grandstanding, like when he wanted to improve the health of poor & working class San Franciscans by banning cigarette sales from chain stores with pharmacies -- that pretty much affected nothing except the ability to buy fairly low-priced cigarettes at Walgreen's stores. ... as opposed to walking a block or less to a liquor store and buying cigarettes

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:58 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55cG7EytB7M

omg I pulled up this video to show how fuckin obnoxious he was at the time and the closed captioning is wild

**APPLAUSE BY HOMOSEXUALS**

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:58 (two years ago) link

xp the conversation it started was a huge push forward for gay rights

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:59 (two years ago) link

i don't think he literally tried to feed a cat to an ATM tho

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:00 (two years ago) link

the conversation it started was a huge push forward for gay rights

he didn't start it - Alaska and Arizona already had gay marriage rulings on the books - he just made the splashiest (and emptiest) show about it. which is his modus operandi.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:03 (two years ago) link

xp Dan -- I'm not saying he's evil incarnate, just that it was a self-serving move. And it is often super useful to be reminded that in the central SF Bay Area, one lives in kinda a political bubble and that there is certain hair-splitting we do here, some more-progressive-than-thou type stuff, that looks ridiculous to most other Americans

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:04 (two years ago) link

Oh yeah, and Oakland has a mayoral election ...

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:05 (two years ago) link

Alaska and Arizona, come on. This *was* a big push forward.

Bush had already given his SOTU pressing for a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. Massachusetts was on track to start allowing marriages in May of that year. A backlash was going to happen in 2004. And Prop 8 was a direct response to the California Supreme Court recognizing marriage rights in 2008

agree that it was a partly self-serving move, but it was also a very good thing

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:11 (two years ago) link

yeah, on paper he has done all the right things, but you read into the details of his life and he is a total slimeball

thing is, how else would you vote if not on what he has done and the positives more or less outweigh the negatives

i feel like this single payer healthcare program was hyped a lot in california, but like it's crazy when you do the math

i'm not against it though

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:36 (two years ago) link

on paper he has done all the right things

not when he was mayor! he did a lot of not-right things

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:37 (two years ago) link

as mayor his sponsorship of Prop N (Care not Cash) was very controversial

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:46 (two years ago) link

yeah, i know what you mean

i guess i should say given the options

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:48 (two years ago) link

I agree that policy-wise I'm compelled to vote for him, more or less. At the same time, I absolutely hate watching him talk and prior to our current scandal-goalpost-moving POS chief exec I would have assumed Newsom was a lock for doing something scandalously unethical/illegal that would tank his career. I guess we're going to find out soon enough.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:51 (two years ago) link

Well when the alternative is John Cox...

Catherine Power (Leee), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:58 (two years ago) link

i was listening to an interview with scott weiner and he mentioned that brown had vetoed the 4am last call thing but he would bring it back next year and didn't expect any problems with newsom on that issue. there was then a weird moment where the interviewer and weiner acknowledged that yes, newsom is a known partier.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:17 (two years ago) link

a friend of mine/former journalist wrote a semi-autobiographical novel that briefly features an obvious Newsom character riding around in a limo drinking champagne, doing blow and engaging in bisexual hijinks

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:23 (two years ago) link

"That, in turn, should be the opening line of your novel.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:39 (two years ago) link

god damn i need a voter guide who tf are all these yahoo local judges speaking in code

the late great, Thursday, 18 October 2018 03:59 (two years ago) link

i forget, are you in LA?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 18 October 2018 04:20 (two years ago) link

the site was a mess and buggy, but i know loads of people who got their appointments (oakland coliseum) through myturn.

wmlynch, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:55 (three weeks ago) link

maybe it ended up being more useful in the bay area.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 18:50 (three weeks ago) link

yeah, most of the folks I know who used it got their shots at the Coliseum

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:00 (three weeks ago) link

generally i get the impression shots have been harder to come by in the bay area, especially in SV. my work colleagues up there are still taking random half days this week, and i don't know anyone down here who hasn't got it yet. presumably this is because there are fewer hesitant/hourly waged people in a hyper wealthy part of the world like palo alto.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:12 (three weeks ago) link

The Bay Area is quite large and sprawling and there are plenty of hesitant/hourly-waged people and a lot of unemployed people? I mean, one could make a similarly semi-sensible generalization involving health-conscious affluent people in places like Santa Monica and the fucking Palisades ... idk dude

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:31 (three weeks ago) link

nah I think he's right about the lower hesitancy

https://abc7news.com/covid-vaccine-appointment-california-ca/10517371/

New data shows San Francisco has the lowest vaccine hesitancy in California. Only 7% of people in San Francisco said they're hesitant about getting the COVID-19 vaccine ...

The entire Bay Area ranks very low in vaccine hesitancy. Solano County has the most residents who are hesitant, according to the CDC, and they're still only at 11% hesitancy.

lukas, Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:34 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah I know the east bay exists. I’m making a generalisation that is true on average.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:37 (three weeks ago) link

lol it isn't even just the East Bay ... you continue to make these generalizations and it's like ... can you just stop?

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:39 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.latimes.com/projects/california-coronavirus-cases-tracking-outbreak/covid-19-vaccines-distribution/

Map don’t lie. I’m speculating about the reason but the fact is more people are getting vaccinated (and appointments seem correspondingly harder to come by) in the Bay Area than in Southern California.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:39 (three weeks ago) link

I guess, looking at the map there is more "dark green" in the Bay Area than in SoCal ... still, San Benito County and Monterey County are about where I thought they would be, as in, not at the top of the charts, as it were. I consider both of these part of the Bay Area. A lot of it does seem to correlate to population density, as opposed to region.

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:44 (three weeks ago) link

yes, if you look at the map there is more "dark green" in the bay area.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:58 (three weeks ago) link

all I'm saying is that the aggregation of data by county doesn't reflect the internal differences in those counties. ... For example, Santa Clara County is not just Silicon Valley, and it would be interesting to see a more detailed map. I don't doubt that affluence and education level play roles here, but I think population density and relative reliance on mass transit are factors as well.

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:17 (three weeks ago) link

SF hit 66%/two-thirds with at least one shot yesterday so whatever's going on, I'll take it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:18 (three weeks ago) link

right, but if the thing you're trying to explain is a regional observation (which is how this started) then it's not "generalizing" or bad faith or whatever to look at attributes of region X and region Y at the regional level, and literally ignore the internal differences.

it is true that the rate of vaccination in the bay area is very high, possibly the highest in the united states except a couple of tribal nations. certainly the highest in the state. seems like hesitancy is also very low based on that survey.

it is *also* true that the level of education and median income are high in the bay area relative to the rest of the state.

i think these two might be connected. that doesn't mean i think everyone in the bay area owns two teslas and has a seven figure stock grant and a graduate degree. (but i do think that kind of person, who are more common in the bay area than elsewhere, are part of the reason the regional vaccination numbers are so high).

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:27 (three weeks ago) link

fair enough.

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:28 (three weeks ago) link

i would also like to see a bay area map. i've seen the vaccination map for la and it's not pretty. it correlates with fraction of white people and income (and even worse it anticorrelates perfectly with covid infection rates).

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:29 (three weeks ago) link

it correlates with fraction of white people and income (and even worse it anticorrelates perfectly with covid infection rates).

i would guess that ours is not dissimilar

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:30 (three weeks ago) link

this is from february and i can't find the more recent version, but i doubt the colors have changed much

https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-covid-vaccine-racial-disparities-by-neighborhood-map/

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:32 (three weeks ago) link

in funnier news, these people are awful, they'd be on the quiddities thread if they were in new york and i ... agree with them 100%.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-Exit-Interview-Housemates-in-Oakland-16107718.php

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:35 (three weeks ago) link

honestly, I am trying to visualize where this "duplex in downtown Oakland" could possibly be ... like, there aren't really those types of buildings there. ... maybe a few? ... Maybe this is a classic example of NoBe-ism. (akm to thread)

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:47 (three weeks ago) link

It's actually an odd detail, tbh, considering they seem to be advocates for higher density housing ... yet apparently they live in part of a duplex in a neighborhood that is predominantly city services and commercial, and the majority of the housing is high-density multi-story apartment buildings ? ... though, my guess is that their neighborhood got edited to "downtown Oakland" as a result of SF-centeredness that was like, "does this neighborhood have a name? will readers be familiar with it? Let's just say 'downtown Oakland' it is kinda close ..."

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:53 (three weeks ago) link

maybe I could look them up on Nextdoor hahah

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:54 (three weeks ago) link

Ahh the irony. Tons of vaccine hesitancy in Marin County, when it comes to their precious gifted children (measles, rubella, polio, etc)..

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 April 2021 22:31 (three weeks ago) link

I got my vaccination at Moscone Center through the myturn website, as did a few of my friends

Dan S, Friday, 23 April 2021 01:30 (three weeks ago) link

So did I. Moscone has had such positive (and well deserved in my experience) press as being well run, I feel very fortunate.

Myturn is clearly buggy (and also a significant fraction of the population struggles to reach it or any website) but apparently not useless.

fajita seas, Friday, 23 April 2021 02:31 (three weeks ago) link

Here we go...

Caitlyn Jenner announces bid for California governor
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56864649

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 23 April 2021 17:01 (three weeks ago) link

Do they even do the Olympic Decathlon anymore? Seems like nobody cares anymore about the all-around decent athlete, everything is so specialized now

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 23 April 2021 17:02 (three weeks ago) link

I'm a little jealous of Moscone people, I took the first appointment I could get in Oakland.

Tahini Coates (Leee), Friday, 23 April 2021 20:14 (three weeks ago) link

One fun thing you can do is look up random homes in Palo Alto and then look up literal castles in France you can buy for less money. Top is $2.25 million, bottom is $2.2. pic.twitter.com/g1798Z2s2I

— Quantian (@quantian1) April 29, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Saturday, 1 May 2021 19:33 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah but the upkeep on the castle has gotta be killer

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Saturday, 1 May 2021 20:27 (two weeks ago) link

The Palo Alto house needs a new dishwasher, so it balances out.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 1 May 2021 21:43 (two weeks ago) link

This appears to be a deliberate campaign strategy, and not an act of vandalism, fwiw. pic.twitter.com/n1MHOjwzRO

— Rob Pyers (@rpyers) May 3, 2021

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 3 May 2021 19:30 (one week ago) link

β€œThe coverage yesterday was all about the bear,” bemoans @BeastJohnCox, who brought the bear. Says focus should be on issues making California β€œunlivable and dangerous.”

— Guy Marzorati (@GuyMarzorati) May 5, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:36 (one week ago) link

Cox is in the Bay Area today, but sent the bear home... it was stealing all his thunder.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 21:05 (one week ago) link

my homie is running for gov lol

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 21:23 (one week ago) link

It's gonna be a clown car of candidates, and if voters go with the recall, whomever gets a the most votes becomes governor (as opposed to a majority). The whole thing is set up really badly.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 21:41 (one week ago) link

Hugely important and sobering story

Current and former public health officials say Newsom has entrusted the essential work of government to private-sector health and tech allies, hurting the ability of the state and local health departments to respond to the coronavirus pandemic https://t.co/sPUIdsky6A

— Miriam Pawel (@miriampawel) May 6, 2021

relative to the alternatives he's good, but he's a really bad governor!

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:30 (one week ago) link

don't elect shitty mayors to be governor, they'll just be shitty mayor governors

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:43 (one week ago) link

caek u a citizen yet

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:43 (one week ago) link

no, one the fence tbqfh and there's no rush

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:44 (one week ago) link

*on

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:44 (one week ago) link

but think of all the delicious voting you could be doing

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:44 (one week ago) link

(also would need a few nights with more than four hours sleep uninterrupted by my terrible children to pass the citizenship test, which i'm not getting any time soon)

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:45 (one week ago) link

this seems correct (both about her aim, which is not to win but to grift, and the possibility that "trump voters and no one else" ends up being enough to be the winner of the plurality in a clown car field with no democrats)

I don’t think it’s this clever. It’s not really a campaign to become governor, it’s a campaign to become a conservative political celebrity. https://t.co/YP4x3WK3up

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) May 6, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:49 (one week ago) link

don't elect shitty mayors to be governor, they'll just be shitty mayor governors

― Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:43 AM (yesterday)

Jerry Brown was a less shitty governor than he was mayor, but then he'd already been governor before he'd been mayor? Idk, I feel like being Governor during Covid is a structurally no-win situation. Kinda like being mayor of Oakland.

sarahell, Friday, 7 May 2021 15:43 (one week ago) link

Story of the day, really.

https://theintercept.com/2021/05/07/california-fires-chico-housing-real-estate/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 May 2021 16:30 (one week ago) link

The nation's most populous state lost more than 180,000 people between January 2020 and January 2021, a decline of 0.46 percent... this was the first time California experienced an actual annual drop since the state began recording such data in 1900.

Opponents of Gov. Gavin Newsom, who is facing a recall election, are sure to use the historic decline as proof of California's woes.

They talk about this like it's a bad thing. We have forty million people and not enough water... .46% is a statistical blip, we need more people to leave

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 7 May 2021 20:16 (one week ago) link

πŸ€”

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 7 May 2021 20:38 (one week ago) link

i will escape one day

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 10 May 2021 04:38 (five days ago) link

wtf!?

Anyone following Newsom's plan to send $8b in stimulus payments to 2/3rds of Californians needs to understand he's essentially required to send money back to taxpayers due to a 1979 ballot measure mandating that real per person state government spending must be under 1979 levels https://t.co/WIfNAAiRg8

— Liam Dillon (@dillonliam) May 10, 2021

the upside (downside) of having your state income tax base dominated by high net worth tech people who get paid in stocks is that when the stock market does really well (badly) you have a ton of (no) money. this year we have more. touch luck for cities that depend on sales tax, but congrats to the state i guess?

and what is this proposition 4?! i have never heard of this! and newsom is now claiming he is obliged to send $600 to every adult earning under $75k. haha!

Angered by local and state officials’ efforts to replace the dollars lost to the 1978 tax cut he crafted with anti-tax crusader Howard Jarvis, Gann returned the following year with Proposition 4, a ballot measure to limit government spending.

β€œLet government trim their sails and get rid of the fat,” Gann said in an Aug. 15, 1979, profile in The Times. β€œWe’re picking up where 13 left off!”

Voters resoundingly agreed that November β€” in part, perhaps, because Gann’s ballot measure also required a tax rebate when revenues outpaced spending on taxpayer-funded programs. The provision has been triggered only once in the law’s 42-year history, resulting in a $1.1-billion rebate in 1987.

Until this month, that is.

Newsom administration officials say a still-growing tax windfall has spilled over the so-called β€œGann limit” on state spending. In January, the spillover was estimated at $102 million over a two-year period. This week, Newsom will announce the excess cash that can’t be spent under regular budget rules is an astounding $16 billion.

using a jarvis measure to redistribute wealth to the bottom 2/3 in a recall year is extremely funny. fair play.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 05:36 (four days ago) link


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