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What's up this year? Lots!

- The housing crisis, Prop 10 and SB 827 (RIP (for now))
- Prop 5 (and the hope of a split roll measure in a couple of years?!)
- Prop 6 (lol this is going to lose I hope)
- When did Gavin Newsom disappoint you first?
- Feinstein vs De Leon (lol) and the state democratic party
- The state republican party (lol)
- Ballot Measure C in SF (this one seems nuts!)
- What is the deal with all the ballot measures, isn't that what we pay these people for?
- high speed rail (lol)
- single payer (lol)

Let's talk about it!

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 14:57 (one year ago) link

someone explain SF measure C to me? is it doomed now breed, weiner, etc. are against it?

re: ballot measure 6, is apparently a lost cause at this point, ha, http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-california-gas-tax-repeal-campaign-cash-20180930-story.html. but prop 10 is not polling well either (and is kind of a mess legislatively as i understand it): https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article219033985.html.

LA measure B (city bank) is cool btw, and the LA times sucks for opposing it.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 15:01 (one year ago) link

I have no idea what's going to happen to measure C but I hope it passes. The split on the Dem side (Pelosi and various supervisors for it, bu Breed/Weiner/others against it) is kind of weird but idk how many voters really take their marching orders from Breed and Weiner tbh. Whereas everyone I know thinks bajillionaire companies paying more to house the people they've misplaced is a no-brainer.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:17 (one year ago) link

uh wtf at the DST prop?

I'm really behind the times, yall are going to have to hold my hand as I fill out my ballot. The only ones that seem clear cut to me on first blush are 6 (NO) and 10 (YES).

Catherine Power (Leee), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:38 (one year ago) link

agreed on 6 and 10.

the DST prop changes nothing but it gives the legislature the right to consider and in principle make changes. DST kills a few people people every march. vote yes IMO on that one.

the bond measures (1-4) are all yeses for me.

prop 5 extends the infamous prop 13 (i.e. restricts localities ability to fund education by restricting their ability to tax massive real estate wealth). you could make the case that extends it to be fairer, but any extension of prop 13 makes the task of removing it politically tougher. so no on 5 IMO.

8 11 and 12 are classic examples of "What is the deal with all the ballot measures, isn't that what we pay these people for?" i guess i'd be yes on 8, no on 11 and yes on 12?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:48 (one year ago) link

Sent my ballot in the other day. Yeah C has been worth it just to see Benioff and Jack@Twitter complaining at each other in public.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:50 (one year ago) link

given the financial structure that tech VC encourage (i.e. avoid making a profit), i like that ballot measure C is a tax on revenue, not profits.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:51 (one year ago) link

caek did you go and get naturalized or somethin

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:54 (one year ago) link

no i can't vote, so i'm telling as many people as possible how to vote instead

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:55 (one year ago) link

that's very generous of you; if I couldn't vote I don't know how I could stand researching ballot measures

anyway not californian so y'all can do whatever as long as you don't come for our water

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:57 (one year ago) link

also lol at gerry brown's veto statement for the 4am last call option

https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/SB-905-Veto.pdf

"mischief and mayhem".

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:58 (one year ago) link

xp
He's the Frederik B of California!

nickn, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 18:02 (one year ago) link

ha i do live here fwiw

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 18:05 (one year ago) link

much as I find the Salesforce tower annoying (I work right next to it), I have to say this guy's allright. Or at least better than most.

Benioff and Salesforce have donated to multiple San Francisco Bay Area causes including $250 million to support hospitals, $11 million to help the homeless, and $50 million to public schools. In his talk, he acknowledges that some of city's business leaders haven't been as generous.

"I have gone hat in hand to every high net worth individual in the city," he said. "I know who is willing to give money, and who isn't. I already have the list. I know if we're going to raise money for our schools, the homeless and hospitals, there's a group of people in our city who are willing to give. And there's a group of people in the city who give nothing based on the level of wealth they have. You're either for the kids, the homeless and the hospitals, or you're for yourself."

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 18:52 (one year ago) link

graded on a curve he is easily the best of the bunch. SFDC has an obscure business relationship with ICE/CBP though.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:14 (one year ago) link

I have to admit I don't know what Salesforce does.

Catherine Power (Leee), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:16 (one year ago) link

Aside from putting their name on things around the city and buying Metallica.

Catherine Power (Leee), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:17 (one year ago) link

Salesforce makes Rolodex-as-a-Service for your entire company.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:23 (one year ago) link

considering the software they sell is basically a spreadsheet/database combo from the 90s, their research team is also bizarrely good at AI/ML, which is one of their reasons their involvement with CBP is unnerving.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:25 (one year ago) link

I've used a few Salesforce databases in my job and basically a spreadsheet/database combo from the 90s seems about accurate. tbf there was a huge need/demand for this, so their success is not really much of a surprise.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:46 (one year ago) link

Also it’s a federal election so off topic but it’s interesting because of the top two primary so: the congressional election where I live is between jimmy Gomez (democrat) and a Green Party guy. I believe this is the only two candidate congressional election involving the greens in the country. Based on the lawn signs and the number of times they’ve canvassed our home, the Green Party guy is going to run away with it. (He won’t. He’ll lose by like 40 points.)

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 02:49 (one year ago) link

I can't believe I am actually going to vote for Gavin Newsom for the first time in like 20 years? ... like I actually voted against him for Lt. Gov. because I hated him so much as SF Mayor and before that as appointed stooge to Willie Brown on the Board of Supes ...

otoh I'm kinda cool with Jerry Brown as governor, and I kinda hated him as mayor,

and actually a lot of the current bullshit in Oakland can kinda be laid at his feet, though not really. Like I don't think any one person can be held responsible for the incompetence, venality, and obstructionist idiocy that is a lot of Oakland government: the people that don't have to run for office, so they can be pretty much awful and stupid with few repercussions to their careers.

There's some new local version of Howard Jarvis Taxpayers sending out mailers to Oakland addresses arguing against voting for various property tax measures on principle.

Oh yeah, Yes on Measure Y -- extending Just Cause protection to people that live in duplexes and triplexes (as opposed to currently where it's like 4+ units)

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 05:54 (one year ago) link

yeah latimes had a lot of dirt on newsom a few months ago but he was still one of the favorites

i'm still registered to vote but i'm not in the country anymore, but i would vote for newsom

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 06:03 (one year ago) link

I'm with sarahell on the mixed feelings about Newsom. He is a guy who I *really* don't like or trust, even when a lot of his policy prescriptions and positions line up with mine. He's just a fucking slimeball that wants to be president really badly. Dunno if I will bother voting for him, he's almost certain to be the winner anyway.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:35 (one year ago) link

i remember being a local blogger about 10 or so years ago and my fave thing was comparing him to Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:37 (one year ago) link

I think he is also a big fan of Huey Lewis & the News iirc

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:38 (one year ago) link

I can't hate him, he stepped forward to support same-sex marriage at a time when most of the rest of the country was charging in the other direction

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:44 (one year ago) link

comparing him to Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman

yeah you weren't alone in this the similarity is just too eerie

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:54 (one year ago) link

he stepped forward to support same-sex marriage at a time when most of the rest of the country was charging in the other direction when it was most politically advantageous to him personally, handed the GOP a wedge-issue that helped get Dubya re-elected, resulted in the passage of Prop 8 in California actually *banning* gay marriage, and did not actually result in any valid gay marriages

fixed

that whole charade was nauseating, grandstanding at his worst. He knew he didn't have a legal leg to stand on and did it for the purposes of benefiting no one but himself.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:55 (one year ago) link

xp - even when in practice it was preaching to the choir and a high profile distraction from his pro-development/pro-corporate policies?

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:56 (one year ago) link

^^^

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:58 (one year ago) link

he has a history of this grandstanding, like when he wanted to improve the health of poor & working class San Franciscans by banning cigarette sales from chain stores with pharmacies -- that pretty much affected nothing except the ability to buy fairly low-priced cigarettes at Walgreen's stores. ... as opposed to walking a block or less to a liquor store and buying cigarettes

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:58 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55cG7EytB7M

omg I pulled up this video to show how fuckin obnoxious he was at the time and the closed captioning is wild

**APPLAUSE BY HOMOSEXUALS**

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:58 (one year ago) link

xp the conversation it started was a huge push forward for gay rights

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:59 (one year ago) link

i don't think he literally tried to feed a cat to an ATM tho

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:00 (one year ago) link

the conversation it started was a huge push forward for gay rights

he didn't start it - Alaska and Arizona already had gay marriage rulings on the books - he just made the splashiest (and emptiest) show about it. which is his modus operandi.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:03 (one year ago) link

xp Dan -- I'm not saying he's evil incarnate, just that it was a self-serving move. And it is often super useful to be reminded that in the central SF Bay Area, one lives in kinda a political bubble and that there is certain hair-splitting we do here, some more-progressive-than-thou type stuff, that looks ridiculous to most other Americans

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:04 (one year ago) link

Oh yeah, and Oakland has a mayoral election ...

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:05 (one year ago) link

Alaska and Arizona, come on. This *was* a big push forward.

Bush had already given his SOTU pressing for a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. Massachusetts was on track to start allowing marriages in May of that year. A backlash was going to happen in 2004. And Prop 8 was a direct response to the California Supreme Court recognizing marriage rights in 2008

agree that it was a partly self-serving move, but it was also a very good thing

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:11 (one year ago) link

yeah, on paper he has done all the right things, but you read into the details of his life and he is a total slimeball

thing is, how else would you vote if not on what he has done and the positives more or less outweigh the negatives

i feel like this single payer healthcare program was hyped a lot in california, but like it's crazy when you do the math

i'm not against it though

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:36 (one year ago) link

on paper he has done all the right things

not when he was mayor! he did a lot of not-right things

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:37 (one year ago) link

as mayor his sponsorship of Prop N (Care not Cash) was very controversial

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:46 (one year ago) link

yeah, i know what you mean

i guess i should say given the options

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:48 (one year ago) link

I agree that policy-wise I'm compelled to vote for him, more or less. At the same time, I absolutely hate watching him talk and prior to our current scandal-goalpost-moving POS chief exec I would have assumed Newsom was a lock for doing something scandalously unethical/illegal that would tank his career. I guess we're going to find out soon enough.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:51 (one year ago) link

Well when the alternative is John Cox...

Catherine Power (Leee), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:58 (one year ago) link

i was listening to an interview with scott weiner and he mentioned that brown had vetoed the 4am last call thing but he would bring it back next year and didn't expect any problems with newsom on that issue. there was then a weird moment where the interviewer and weiner acknowledged that yes, newsom is a known partier.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:17 (one year ago) link

a friend of mine/former journalist wrote a semi-autobiographical novel that briefly features an obvious Newsom character riding around in a limo drinking champagne, doing blow and engaging in bisexual hijinks

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:23 (one year ago) link

"That, in turn, should be the opening line of your novel.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:39 (one year ago) link

god damn i need a voter guide who tf are all these yahoo local judges speaking in code

the late great, Thursday, 18 October 2018 03:59 (one year ago) link

i forget, are you in LA?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 18 October 2018 04:20 (one year ago) link

I don't see this initiative going anywhere tbh

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Monday, 6 January 2020 16:25 (one month ago) link

It has no major backing, no money behind it, and it's of dubious legality.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Monday, 6 January 2020 16:26 (one month ago) link

this one is a bit more serious IIUC, but i also haven't heard anything about it since the supreme court refused to hear the boise case, which suggests they've been forced to rethink https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-11-27/california-housing-crisis-podcast-gavin-newsom-solve-homeless-ballot-measure.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Monday, 6 January 2020 18:17 (one month ago) link

xp caek -- just because sleeping on the sidewalk isn't illegal, they could easily come up with other "quality of life" violations -- which really makes you think about the definition of "quality of life" -- the quality of whose life? The lives of the homeless people, or the lives of the people that complain about having to engage with homeless people?

sarahell, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:08 (one month ago) link

"engage" is putting it a little strongly - more like "be in physical proximity to"

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:20 (one month ago) link

they are engaging with their line of sight

sarahell, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:47 (one month ago) link

they are disrupting their view

sarahell, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:47 (one month ago) link

sarahell, of course. i'm just saying that specific ballot measure is not going to happen because:

1. it attempts to compel local govt to do something that is currently illegal according to federal courts (many cities *already* have similar regulations and have been forced to stop enforcing them by the boise ruling).

2. this guy's idea that you just need signatures and votes is, despite the "california ballot measures are crazy" meme, not really all you need, and he has no support.

buy you're absolutely right that more creative harassment of the homeless will always be something they try to do. they're trying to do it right now in LA e.g. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-09-06/homeless-sleeping-ban-rules-los-angeles.

you don't need a ballot measure for any of that though. this one is just showboating. which is why this is being covered by a columnist in one paper, not the news section of any paper afaict.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Monday, 6 January 2020 23:04 (one month ago) link

btw here's a ballot measure that absolutely sucks, probably wouldn't be thrown out by federal courts, and has sacramento establishment support: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-11-27/california-housing-crisis-podcast-gavin-newsom-solve-homeless-ballot-measure.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Monday, 6 January 2020 23:05 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

Just ran into @GavinNewsom outside the Capitol. I asked him about #SB50: β€œI refuse to comment as we’re hours away from new clarity.”

— Liam Dillon (@dillonliam) January 29, 2020


To be clear β€œnew clarity” is referring to the state senate vote that will almost certainly be happening this afternoon on #SB50

— Liam Dillon (@dillonliam) January 29, 2020

it might pass?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 20:17 (three weeks ago) link

better than the old clarity

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 20:25 (three weeks ago) link

gonna miss the current opacity :(

sarahell, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 23:22 (three weeks ago) link

Orinda, Napa, and San Mateo you say... well locally, Glazer's always been a dick

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 30 January 2020 20:54 (three weeks ago) link

it was southern california that did it. the representatives of rich nimbies deserve the blame as they were most of the no votes, but it fell by a small margin and would have passed with support from a couple of east/south LA senators with what seem to be sincerely held concerns about vulnerable communities and the fact that this bill didn't simultaneously address rent control.

i say "seem" because while they may be sincerely held, the final form went quite a long way to avoid having any implications at all for east/south LA.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPfutGvU0AAX9xs?format=jpg&name=large

i was so excited to see south pasadena turn into dubai :-(

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 30 January 2020 23:16 (three weeks ago) link

I see on fb that the Esotouric people were against it because they thought it would lead to the destruction of historic/"LA fabric*" properties.

* Bungalow courts, Mission/Craftsman/Moderne/etc houses.

nickn, Thursday, 30 January 2020 23:42 (three weeks ago) link

It would have made it legal to build more bungalow courts. They’re currently almost always forbidden by postwar zoning changes.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 31 January 2020 00:45 (three weeks ago) link

But no developer's gonna build a low-density bungalow court when they can build s 4-6 story block (w/underground parking).

nickn, Friday, 31 January 2020 01:31 (three weeks ago) link

This is all based on what I read from interested parties in twitter so who knows, but I don’t think that’s true.

For one, a much larger set of developers can finance single floor buildings like that. There aren’t enough developers capable of building mid rises on the land sb50 etc. would make usable.

The other thing is new bungalow courts are apparently a kind of sweet spot financially. You can make your money back renting them for 1000 month because they’re relatively cheap to build, but they rent for multiples of that. The profit margin on a β€œluxury” (ie not old) apartment is smaller as a percentage.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 31 January 2020 02:13 (three weeks ago) link

Every new project in Pasadena is at least three stories, most are 4-6. I don't see anyone getting rid of a couple houses on a half acre only to put up 6-8 bungalows.

The Esotouric thing I mentioned was a developer wanting to tear down a 1930s bungalow court in the Melrose area in LA for a much higher density project.

It was parking requirements that killed bungalows, with 2 spots necessary per unit there wasn't room for enough sq ft of living area, so developers went for the 2-story dingbat style, with parking on the bottom.

nickn, Friday, 31 January 2020 03:26 (three weeks ago) link

every new project in pasadena is mid-rise because sb50 or similar legislation hasn't passed so multi-unit zoned land is rare and expensive, so you have to build 12+ units to make money. i don't think it would stay that way if everything within half a mile of the gold line got upzoned.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 31 January 2020 06:11 (three weeks ago) link

Ehhh, I don't know, I can't see a developer choosing small scale when they could go larger.

nickn, Friday, 31 January 2020 06:42 (three weeks ago) link

right but my point is not all developers can go larger. you need huge amounts of capital to build a four floor apartment building.

(i'm also 100% fine with exclusively mid-rise apartment buildings getting built and no bungalow courts getting built, but i don't think that's what would happen)

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 31 January 2020 07:22 (three weeks ago) link

Seems like the property owners would not settle for the price a small scale development would get, and would be willing to hold out for a price that only a large development would justify. But who knows, maybe if enough building was allowed the price would drop. Or maybe people would develop decent-sized single family house properties into 2-4 bungalows.

nickn, Friday, 31 January 2020 07:52 (three weeks ago) link

They should build as many market rate apartments and condos near Orinda BART as they are/have in my neighborhood in Oakland.

sarahell, Saturday, 1 February 2020 19:48 (three weeks ago) link

Ned posted this in the Oakland thread -- but it is actually state legislation, so it can go here too!

https://www.kqed.org/arts/13874382/state-senator-introduces-legislation-to-protect-live-work-and-warehouse-residences

sarahell, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 18:01 (two weeks ago) link

thread from the state assemblywoman who lead AB5 about follow-up legislation

Based on dozens of meetings with freelance journalists & photographers, we have submitted language to legislative counsel that we hope to have available next week to put into AB1850 which will cut out the 35 submission cap & instead more clearly define freelancer journalism 2/

— Lorena (@LorenaSGonzalez) February 6, 2020

(AB5 aside, watch her. she'll be a senator in DC soon.)

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:55 (two weeks ago) link

she moves fast and breaks things, but she hears you and she'll do better

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 6 February 2020 22:36 (two weeks ago) link

I wonder how this proposed fund to assist arts nonprofits would work. ... it seems like a well-meaning idea that will create more problems for people

sarahell, Friday, 7 February 2020 01:27 (two weeks ago) link

does it mention any remedies for gig musicians?

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 7 February 2020 02:29 (two weeks ago) link

Meanwhile, AB-5 has forced the local playhouse here in Sierra Madre to cancel a show:

https://abc7.com/business/local-theater-struggles-under-ca-law-restricting-independent-contractor-designation/5899734/

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 7 February 2020 06:27 (two weeks ago) link

Every new project in Pasadena is at least three stories, most are 4-6.

They're called Five-Over-Ones, One-Plus-Fives, etc. but the construction is the same: five floors of residential wood construction on top of a concrete box retail floor. A vast chunk of American civic land is zoned to prohibit construction over 65 feet, which makes it just right for these five or six story boxes. They're cheap as hell to build and taller/denser construction would run up against different standards for fire regulation, parking, etc. etc. The architecture derives from being the minimal legal hassle to maximize as much possible profit.

More:
http://archplanbaltimore.blogspot.com/2015/03/how-one-plus-five-is-shaping-american_27.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-02-13/why-america-s-new-apartment-buildings-all-look-the-same

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 7 February 2020 06:40 (two weeks ago) link

oooooh! thank you!

sarahell, Friday, 7 February 2020 17:46 (two weeks ago) link

Five-Over-Ones, One-Plus-Fives,
No one here gets out alive.

nickn, Friday, 7 February 2020 18:50 (two weeks ago) link

Didn’t read but isn’t the short answer seismic safety β€” unreinforced masonry

sarahell, Friday, 7 February 2020 21:08 (two weeks ago) link

Lol ok I read it and it is about Philly. But changes to building codes and the ability to use alternative methods is a relevant issue.

sarahell, Friday, 7 February 2020 21:13 (two weeks ago) link

as a Seattle resident there's far too much unreinforced masonry still standing for my nerves

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 7 February 2020 21:26 (two weeks ago) link

There are ways to legally and safely reinforce the unreinforced masonry, but not cheaply

sarahell, Friday, 7 February 2020 21:29 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah and it’s not blanket-required β€œlol”

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 7 February 2020 22:15 (two weeks ago) link

what a mess

https://www.patreon.com/posts/34027460

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 14 February 2020 22:47 (one week ago) link

law is totally gonna get amended/re-written. not a bad thing imo. still hope it puts uber etc out of business.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Friday, 14 February 2020 22:59 (one week ago) link

anyone in LA CD12? apparently this flyer is supposed to make you not want to vote for lundquist?!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQxZyzHU0AEKvmQ?format=jpg&name=medium

she's got a good shot. she lost to lee (a republican) by a small amount in a very low turnout special election last year. she'll benefit from increased democrat turnout in march and lee knows this (he's running as an indpendent) if she gets more than 50% in the primary she wins right away.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Saturday, 15 February 2020 00:04 (one week ago) link

what a mess

https://www.patreon.com/posts/34027460

― π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, February 14, 2020 2:47 PM (four hours ago)

What's even messier is how the people who have legal expertise in these industries (publishing, media, art, theater, music, etc.) don't even seem to understand the law -- or at least are giving sloppy advice to freelancers. Like, the forming an LLC is so not gonna qualify. I am glad the author of this article didn't do it and have to spend $800 (at least) per year for something legally useless for AB5 issues. It's possible that one could get away with forming an S-Corp where you pay yourself as an employee, and the client pays your S-Corp, though CA Lawyers for the Arts said in their toolkit they just put out that that was a bit dicey and that would fall under a "loan out" provision that is considered non-exempt from AB5.

AB5 is also interesting in relation to the Federal TCJA provisions from last year that eliminated deductions for unreimbursed employee business expenses. Like, in one way it is regressive and shitty, because it tends to affect people like teachers and non-profit staff that have underfunded workplaces, as well as people who are dues-paying members of unions (teachers again, nurses, etc.). However, one could argue, that it gives employees more impetus to get their employers to pay for things rather than expecting the employees to pay for stuff out of pocket because they care about their work.

Basically, if I were involved in unionization type work, I would be like, "this is our moment" and would be in manic activist mode right now.

sarahell, Saturday, 15 February 2020 03:13 (one week ago) link

california

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— Mark Mollineaux πŸ¦€πŸ”°πŸ•ŠπŸŒΉπŸŒ (@bufordsharkley) February 22, 2020

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Saturday, 22 February 2020 01:38 (yesterday) link

commute from Salinas isn't that bad tbh

sarahell, Saturday, 22 February 2020 19:30 (yesterday) link

It’s an hour and 20 minutes without traffic from Salinas to my office in PA and the planet is dying.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Saturday, 22 February 2020 21:53 (yesterday) link

It's way longer from Tracy tho

sarahell, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:25 (yesterday) link


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