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What's up this year? Lots!

- The housing crisis, Prop 10 and SB 827 (RIP (for now))
- Prop 5 (and the hope of a split roll measure in a couple of years?!)
- Prop 6 (lol this is going to lose I hope)
- When did Gavin Newsom disappoint you first?
- Feinstein vs De Leon (lol) and the state democratic party
- The state republican party (lol)
- Ballot Measure C in SF (this one seems nuts!)
- What is the deal with all the ballot measures, isn't that what we pay these people for?
- high speed rail (lol)
- single payer (lol)

Let's talk about it!

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 14:57 (eleven months ago) link

someone explain SF measure C to me? is it doomed now breed, weiner, etc. are against it?

re: ballot measure 6, is apparently a lost cause at this point, ha, http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-california-gas-tax-repeal-campaign-cash-20180930-story.html. but prop 10 is not polling well either (and is kind of a mess legislatively as i understand it): https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article219033985.html.

LA measure B (city bank) is cool btw, and the LA times sucks for opposing it.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 15:01 (eleven months ago) link

I have no idea what's going to happen to measure C but I hope it passes. The split on the Dem side (Pelosi and various supervisors for it, bu Breed/Weiner/others against it) is kind of weird but idk how many voters really take their marching orders from Breed and Weiner tbh. Whereas everyone I know thinks bajillionaire companies paying more to house the people they've misplaced is a no-brainer.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:17 (eleven months ago) link

uh wtf at the DST prop?

I'm really behind the times, yall are going to have to hold my hand as I fill out my ballot. The only ones that seem clear cut to me on first blush are 6 (NO) and 10 (YES).

Catherine Power (Leee), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:38 (eleven months ago) link

agreed on 6 and 10.

the DST prop changes nothing but it gives the legislature the right to consider and in principle make changes. DST kills a few people people every march. vote yes IMO on that one.

the bond measures (1-4) are all yeses for me.

prop 5 extends the infamous prop 13 (i.e. restricts localities ability to fund education by restricting their ability to tax massive real estate wealth). you could make the case that extends it to be fairer, but any extension of prop 13 makes the task of removing it politically tougher. so no on 5 IMO.

8 11 and 12 are classic examples of "What is the deal with all the ballot measures, isn't that what we pay these people for?" i guess i'd be yes on 8, no on 11 and yes on 12?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:48 (eleven months ago) link

Sent my ballot in the other day. Yeah C has been worth it just to see Benioff and Jack@Twitter complaining at each other in public.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:50 (eleven months ago) link

given the financial structure that tech VC encourage (i.e. avoid making a profit), i like that ballot measure C is a tax on revenue, not profits.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:51 (eleven months ago) link

caek did you go and get naturalized or somethin

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:54 (eleven months ago) link

no i can't vote, so i'm telling as many people as possible how to vote instead

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:55 (eleven months ago) link

that's very generous of you; if I couldn't vote I don't know how I could stand researching ballot measures

anyway not californian so y'all can do whatever as long as you don't come for our water

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:57 (eleven months ago) link

also lol at gerry brown's veto statement for the 4am last call option

https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/SB-905-Veto.pdf

"mischief and mayhem".

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:58 (eleven months ago) link

xp
He's the Frederik B of California!

nickn, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 18:02 (eleven months ago) link

ha i do live here fwiw

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 18:05 (eleven months ago) link

much as I find the Salesforce tower annoying (I work right next to it), I have to say this guy's allright. Or at least better than most.

Benioff and Salesforce have donated to multiple San Francisco Bay Area causes including $250 million to support hospitals, $11 million to help the homeless, and $50 million to public schools. In his talk, he acknowledges that some of city's business leaders haven't been as generous.

"I have gone hat in hand to every high net worth individual in the city," he said. "I know who is willing to give money, and who isn't. I already have the list. I know if we're going to raise money for our schools, the homeless and hospitals, there's a group of people in our city who are willing to give. And there's a group of people in the city who give nothing based on the level of wealth they have. You're either for the kids, the homeless and the hospitals, or you're for yourself."

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 18:52 (eleven months ago) link

graded on a curve he is easily the best of the bunch. SFDC has an obscure business relationship with ICE/CBP though.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:14 (eleven months ago) link

I have to admit I don't know what Salesforce does.

Catherine Power (Leee), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:16 (eleven months ago) link

Aside from putting their name on things around the city and buying Metallica.

Catherine Power (Leee), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:17 (eleven months ago) link

Salesforce makes Rolodex-as-a-Service for your entire company.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:23 (eleven months ago) link

considering the software they sell is basically a spreadsheet/database combo from the 90s, their research team is also bizarrely good at AI/ML, which is one of their reasons their involvement with CBP is unnerving.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:25 (eleven months ago) link

I've used a few Salesforce databases in my job and basically a spreadsheet/database combo from the 90s seems about accurate. tbf there was a huge need/demand for this, so their success is not really much of a surprise.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:46 (eleven months ago) link

Also it’s a federal election so off topic but it’s interesting because of the top two primary so: the congressional election where I live is between jimmy Gomez (democrat) and a Green Party guy. I believe this is the only two candidate congressional election involving the greens in the country. Based on the lawn signs and the number of times they’ve canvassed our home, the Green Party guy is going to run away with it. (He won’t. He’ll lose by like 40 points.)

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 02:49 (eleven months ago) link

I can't believe I am actually going to vote for Gavin Newsom for the first time in like 20 years? ... like I actually voted against him for Lt. Gov. because I hated him so much as SF Mayor and before that as appointed stooge to Willie Brown on the Board of Supes ...

otoh I'm kinda cool with Jerry Brown as governor, and I kinda hated him as mayor,

and actually a lot of the current bullshit in Oakland can kinda be laid at his feet, though not really. Like I don't think any one person can be held responsible for the incompetence, venality, and obstructionist idiocy that is a lot of Oakland government: the people that don't have to run for office, so they can be pretty much awful and stupid with few repercussions to their careers.

There's some new local version of Howard Jarvis Taxpayers sending out mailers to Oakland addresses arguing against voting for various property tax measures on principle.

Oh yeah, Yes on Measure Y -- extending Just Cause protection to people that live in duplexes and triplexes (as opposed to currently where it's like 4+ units)

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 05:54 (eleven months ago) link

yeah latimes had a lot of dirt on newsom a few months ago but he was still one of the favorites

i'm still registered to vote but i'm not in the country anymore, but i would vote for newsom

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 06:03 (eleven months ago) link

I'm with sarahell on the mixed feelings about Newsom. He is a guy who I *really* don't like or trust, even when a lot of his policy prescriptions and positions line up with mine. He's just a fucking slimeball that wants to be president really badly. Dunno if I will bother voting for him, he's almost certain to be the winner anyway.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:35 (eleven months ago) link

i remember being a local blogger about 10 or so years ago and my fave thing was comparing him to Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:37 (eleven months ago) link

I think he is also a big fan of Huey Lewis & the News iirc

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:38 (eleven months ago) link

I can't hate him, he stepped forward to support same-sex marriage at a time when most of the rest of the country was charging in the other direction

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:44 (eleven months ago) link

comparing him to Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman

yeah you weren't alone in this the similarity is just too eerie

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:54 (eleven months ago) link

he stepped forward to support same-sex marriage at a time when most of the rest of the country was charging in the other direction when it was most politically advantageous to him personally, handed the GOP a wedge-issue that helped get Dubya re-elected, resulted in the passage of Prop 8 in California actually *banning* gay marriage, and did not actually result in any valid gay marriages

fixed

that whole charade was nauseating, grandstanding at his worst. He knew he didn't have a legal leg to stand on and did it for the purposes of benefiting no one but himself.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:55 (eleven months ago) link

xp - even when in practice it was preaching to the choir and a high profile distraction from his pro-development/pro-corporate policies?

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:56 (eleven months ago) link

^^^

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:58 (eleven months ago) link

he has a history of this grandstanding, like when he wanted to improve the health of poor & working class San Franciscans by banning cigarette sales from chain stores with pharmacies -- that pretty much affected nothing except the ability to buy fairly low-priced cigarettes at Walgreen's stores. ... as opposed to walking a block or less to a liquor store and buying cigarettes

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:58 (eleven months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55cG7EytB7M

omg I pulled up this video to show how fuckin obnoxious he was at the time and the closed captioning is wild

**APPLAUSE BY HOMOSEXUALS**

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:58 (eleven months ago) link

xp the conversation it started was a huge push forward for gay rights

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:59 (eleven months ago) link

i don't think he literally tried to feed a cat to an ATM tho

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:00 (eleven months ago) link

the conversation it started was a huge push forward for gay rights

he didn't start it - Alaska and Arizona already had gay marriage rulings on the books - he just made the splashiest (and emptiest) show about it. which is his modus operandi.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:03 (eleven months ago) link

xp Dan -- I'm not saying he's evil incarnate, just that it was a self-serving move. And it is often super useful to be reminded that in the central SF Bay Area, one lives in kinda a political bubble and that there is certain hair-splitting we do here, some more-progressive-than-thou type stuff, that looks ridiculous to most other Americans

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:04 (eleven months ago) link

Oh yeah, and Oakland has a mayoral election ...

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:05 (eleven months ago) link

Alaska and Arizona, come on. This *was* a big push forward.

Bush had already given his SOTU pressing for a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. Massachusetts was on track to start allowing marriages in May of that year. A backlash was going to happen in 2004. And Prop 8 was a direct response to the California Supreme Court recognizing marriage rights in 2008

agree that it was a partly self-serving move, but it was also a very good thing

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:11 (eleven months ago) link

yeah, on paper he has done all the right things, but you read into the details of his life and he is a total slimeball

thing is, how else would you vote if not on what he has done and the positives more or less outweigh the negatives

i feel like this single payer healthcare program was hyped a lot in california, but like it's crazy when you do the math

i'm not against it though

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:36 (eleven months ago) link

on paper he has done all the right things

not when he was mayor! he did a lot of not-right things

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:37 (eleven months ago) link

as mayor his sponsorship of Prop N (Care not Cash) was very controversial

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:46 (eleven months ago) link

yeah, i know what you mean

i guess i should say given the options

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:48 (eleven months ago) link

I agree that policy-wise I'm compelled to vote for him, more or less. At the same time, I absolutely hate watching him talk and prior to our current scandal-goalpost-moving POS chief exec I would have assumed Newsom was a lock for doing something scandalously unethical/illegal that would tank his career. I guess we're going to find out soon enough.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:51 (eleven months ago) link

Well when the alternative is John Cox...

Catherine Power (Leee), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:58 (eleven months ago) link

i was listening to an interview with scott weiner and he mentioned that brown had vetoed the 4am last call thing but he would bring it back next year and didn't expect any problems with newsom on that issue. there was then a weird moment where the interviewer and weiner acknowledged that yes, newsom is a known partier.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:17 (eleven months ago) link

a friend of mine/former journalist wrote a semi-autobiographical novel that briefly features an obvious Newsom character riding around in a limo drinking champagne, doing blow and engaging in bisexual hijinks

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:23 (eleven months ago) link

"That, in turn, should be the opening line of your novel.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:39 (eleven months ago) link

god damn i need a voter guide who tf are all these yahoo local judges speaking in code

the late great, Thursday, 18 October 2018 03:59 (eleven months ago) link

i forget, are you in LA?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 18 October 2018 04:20 (eleven months ago) link

statewide rent control maybe coming despite pretty hard ballot measure failure last year

THREAD: Late Friday, Gov. @GavinNewsom announced a deal with legislative leadership to cap annual rent hikes in California for a decade at 5% + inflation alongside anti-eviction protections. This is a big deal, but it’s far from assured it will pass https://t.co/x8TIp1GqmZ (1/10)

— Liam Dillon (@dillonliam) September 3, 2019

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 16:35 (one month ago) link

this is statewide rent control for non-vacant units, right? interesting.

akm, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 17:00 (one month ago) link

yes but there are exclusions based on the building age and a sunset clause. it's still fairly aggressive.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 17:19 (one month ago) link

Uber & Lyft commit $60 million to fund a state-wide ballot initiative

Since they probably haven't spent even 2% of that amount pursuing that initiative so far, they could as easily have said $300 million as $60 million and presumably frightened lawmakers into submission even more effectively.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 17:29 (one month ago) link

they should just suck it up and pay the payroll taxes and workers comp insurance like normal employers ... also they are seriously responsible for making traffic suck in the Bay Area (idk about LA).

sarahell, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:11 (one month ago) link

^^^

they have made driving in SF so much worse

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:14 (one month ago) link

it's like all roads and lanes on city streets are subdivided into "thru traffic" and "double parked uber/lyft drivers"

sarahell, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:19 (one month ago) link

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2019-09-03/hiltzik-uber-lyft-90-million-to-save-employment-costs

Uber says its goal is to place β€œdrivers’ unique needs first and foremost, and provide leadership with a new model for workers.” Is this plausible?

Just consider that the top named officer of the campaign entity to which Uber and Lyft have given their $60 million in funding, Californians for Innovation and Opportunity, is Thomas W. Hiltachk. He’s the go-to lawyer for Republican and conservative initiative campaigns, including Proposition 32 of 2012, which was a thinly-disguised attack on unions and their members. Here’s a rule of thumb: If Hiltachk is on your team, you may not have workers’ best interests at heart.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:21 (one month ago) link

it's like all roads and lanes on city streets are subdivided into "thru traffic" and "double parked uber/lyft drivers"

not only that, they've literally put *more* cars on the streets. Instead of yr usual drivers + taxi fleets, you have people bringing their cars in from out of town to make $$$

https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Uber-Lyft-cars-have-heavy-impact-on-SF-streets-11214835.php

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:25 (one month ago) link

just take the fucking bus ya idjits

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:25 (one month ago) link

I have some mixed feelings about the Dynamex decision and it being applied super strictly, though the fact that these companies have managed to not run afoul of the EDD regulations about employee vs. contractor is ridiculous to me. Also, another ridiculous thing is the fact that these companies claim to be innovative but really, outside of the technology, their model feels very 19th Century to me -- this is off the cuff, tho, I want to research it further -- in terms of treatment of travelling salespeople, which predated the tax code, and thus have certain special rules.

sarahell, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:33 (one month ago) link

not only that, they've literally put *more* cars on the streets. Instead of yr usual drivers + taxi fleets, you have people bringing their cars in from out of town to make $$$

Totally true -- it's not just SF, but Oakland, too ...

sarahell, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:35 (one month ago) link

Way to go California !

Today we made HISTORY!!!
Just now, the CA legislature passed the Tenant Protection Act of 2019 and is on its way to @GavinNewsom desk to be signed! #AB1482 expands protections to 7 million tenants, covering more renters than any single tenant protection bill in recent US history! pic.twitter.com/tgzyUMXnsJ

— ACCE (@CalOrganize) September 11, 2019

(β€’Μͺ●) (carne asada), Thursday, 12 September 2019 01:43 (one month ago) link

legislature has banned private prisons and ICE facilities in CA. Newsom expected to sign bill.

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Friday, 13 September 2019 14:57 (one month ago) link

Also rent cap

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 13 September 2019 15:03 (one month ago) link

Jfc

1/2 A few minutes ago, the anti-vaxxer stalkers - who’ve engaged in a harassment campaign all week - dropped a red substance onto the Senate floor from the elevated public gallery, dousing several of my colleagues. The person who committed this assault screamed it was baby blood.

— Scott Wiener (@Scott_Wiener) September 14, 2019

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Saturday, 14 September 2019 01:12 (one month ago) link

when you realize the protestor was referring to 'baby rats' it kinds of changes the message

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 14 September 2019 02:50 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

PG&E ?!

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 04:16 (five days ago) link

Yay I mean uh

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 04:30 (five days ago) link

San Francisco and what to do in it (in the dark)

Power is shutting off at midnight where my folks are (Sonoma/Mendocino line).

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 05:50 (five days ago) link

Oh, you’re going to hold us liable for billions in wildfire damages? Let’s see how 800,000 of you like being without electricity for five days.

— Derek Lindner (@mantella) October 9, 2019

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 05:52 (five days ago) link

PGE recently spent $79 million on lobbying, got $1 billion in tax rebates, made a profit of $4.8 billion and hiked executive pay 94% https://t.co/ELHZLLlKn2

— reclaim UC (@reclaimuc) October 9, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 06:57 (five days ago) link

San Francisco is not gonna have its power shut off according to the maps, neither is most of Oakland or south/west Berkeley

sarahell, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 08:49 (five days ago) link

I was listening to Angel Haze's "Echelon (It's My Way)" on the way to work this morning--there's a lyric in there that pretty much anticipates the whole Trudeau scandal. You'll have to look it up yourself.

clemenza, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 12:37 (five days ago) link

Oops! Thought this was the Canadian politics thread...

clemenza, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 12:38 (five days ago) link

TWO STATES

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:08 (five days ago) link

Tbf they should turn the power off more often imo

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 15:17 (five days ago) link

#BreakingNews Due to the "PG&E Power Shut Off", the lights are **out** in the Robin Williams Tunnel. Its pretty dark, so drive with caution. @kron4news pic.twitter.com/IX3I96VAQ0

— Robin Winston (@RobinWinstonTV) October 9, 2019

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 17:36 (five days ago) link

"86 die in tunnel pile-up!"

nickn, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 18:04 (five days ago) link

#BREAKING PG&E worker reportedly shot at in Sierra Foothills https://t.co/7ViSAdFRZ5 pic.twitter.com/S1WnlTWGhM

— KTVU (@KTVU) October 9, 2019

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 20:56 (five days ago) link

PG&E put up barricades at SF HQ. pic.twitter.com/MLGVVJ0QmI

— Christien Kafton (@CKaftonKTVU) October 9, 2019

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 20:57 (five days ago) link

dang

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 21:25 (five days ago) link

Those barricades are there fairly often, i walk by that building every day

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 21:58 (five days ago) link

High winds ahead where recent major fires were:

WIND FORECAST: Here's an hour-by-hour look at when the gustiest winds develop. Watch out between late tonight-early tomorrow AM! #SanFrancisco #BayArea pic.twitter.com/VdU1BVjWH6

— Sandhya Patel (@SandhyaABC7) October 9, 2019

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 22:12 (five days ago) link

A family member had their power turned off today at ~10:30am without any telephone/email/mail notice (although it is possible that SCE sent a text to their landline). After a phone call, SCE assured them that the power would be back on by 3pm... It's now nearly 6pm. The winds are 4 (four) mph.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 10 October 2019 00:40 (four days ago) link

how did they choose the locations that would lose power?

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 10 October 2019 00:50 (four days ago) link

just read this:

"As of late Wednesday afternoon, PG&E spokesman Jeff Smith could not confirm whether any Bay area hospitals would lose power during the second phase of planned shut-offs, which are expected to take place Wednesday evening.

β€œThere may be some hospitals that are in the footprint, but we won’t know for sure,” Mr. Smith said. β€œWe’re working extensively with locations like hospitals to ensure that they have an emergency plan.”

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 10 October 2019 00:51 (four days ago) link

Friend is just had surgery and was given this note when he woke up

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGeohO9UwAAHCvH?format=jpg&name=small

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 10 October 2019 01:48 (four days ago) link

how did they choose the locations that would lose power?


trees to buildings ratio, more or less

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 10 October 2019 01:50 (four days ago) link

yeah, wildfire risk

Dan S, Thursday, 10 October 2019 01:51 (four days ago) link

With locations like hospitals in them, you can’t go wrong

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 10 October 2019 01:53 (four days ago) link

is PG&E legally obliged to cut power or are they doing it to reduce their legal liability?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 10 October 2019 03:56 (four days ago) link

It's very possible PG&E is being extra-conservative with power shutdowns because a fire during the firm's bankruptcy case would be harder for them to deal with than a fire outside of bankruptcy. This thread explains why (1/

— Jared Ellias (@jared_ellias) October 10, 2019

... (Eazy), Thursday, 10 October 2019 05:10 (four days ago) link

re: that note, Sequoia Hospital is in Redwood City, I know the area and it doesn't seem like it is at particular risk for fire

Dan S, Thursday, 10 October 2019 05:22 (four days ago) link

meanwhile I get a text from AT&T saying they know these planned PG&E outages are an inconvenience and that AT&T won't charge overage fees for calls and texts and data use or whatever that exceeds plan rates.

I get a text from my landlord, who doesn't have any idea whether our building is in the outage zone ... it isn't, we're not even close to the line ... but like, you own this building? Wouldn't you uh, make a point of finding out?

This is the most ridiculous statewide event since the Gray Davis recall where people thought it would be awesome to elect Arnold Schwarzenegger governor

sarahell, Thursday, 10 October 2019 05:49 (four days ago) link

re moraga fire: NBC Bay Area news just said firefighters are having to go door to door to evacuate people becauseeeeee-- the power is out in that area, so emergency warning services aren't working!

this is so absolutely fucked

— PatF Zine Preorders are Live!πŸ‘‘πŸ’• deets @ patfzine (@jtbtweetin) October 10, 2019

... (Eazy), Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:41 (four days ago) link

statewide event

pedant alert: it is not a statewide event

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:47 (four days ago) link

You have $10 to build California

$30 not on fire
$20 functioning electrical grid
$15 high speed rail between major population centers
$3 mad at homeless people
$4 Diane Feinstein worth a hundred million dollars

— greg (@weedguy420boner) October 9, 2019

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:53 (four days ago) link

Are you curious how PG&E execs celebrated the 2 year anniversary of the Tubbs Fire (22 deaths, 5,643 structures destroyed,Santa Rosa's economic loss estimated at $1.2 billion (2017 USD), with five percent of the city's housing stock destroyed)...

https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/PG-E-gas-employees-wined-and-dined-just-before-14512194.php

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 11 October 2019 11:22 (three days ago) link

showing dudes like the WeWork CEO how it's done ...

sarahell, Friday, 11 October 2019 17:11 (three days ago) link


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