The Irish

yeah you do hear it both ways, i find that people either say

finneh guwayel

or

fine gale (nice wind you got there)

hmm...if i ran at it without thinking id probably sound it as finna gyael meself.

no right way obv

I would have thought someone in your employment needed to have it, or did the blueshirts send that the way of compulsory history to junior cert?

― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:11 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

one of the many myths!

I should learn The Irish past my puny amount at some point, but Jen is learning Scottish Gaelic (pron. Gallic apparently?) and I'm not sure if it would be good or bad to have both ringing about the house at the same time.

I can hear gale or guwayel, but I don't think I've ever heard fine-as-in-soft-day!

(I might have asked this before but) do you still need to pass Irish to pass the LC?

one of the o/h's student flatmates in NI had got good marks at school in every other subject but had been forced to go up north for uni as because he couldn't scrape a pass in Irish even after many resits and so didn't get his piece of paper (so I was told)

he was a mature student by that time as he'd already gone to Silicon Valley, made a million in the dot com boom, then lost it again. he went back afterwards, quite possibly made another million, who knows about the hanging onto it this time round - good luck to him anyway

(also keen to hear the various positions on the Gale vs Gwale issue. is Gwoil an option or is that part just assumed to go without saying and/or interpolated by my tin tan ear?)

xp its a west coast thing

again testimony to the personalised aspect of the whole thing over here imo

on that note, id say no better tribute to the language than to have two different versions of it ringing around the one house

i speak six different dialects of english meself, depending, so i mean

aps, unless you're exempt then as far as my knowledge goes then you do

exempt, as far as i remember, only really covers your having been a citizen abroad until x age or whatever

and, not being funny but it is rather on point, id need to know how you pronounced gwoil, really.

finn-ants is one of many oar-tee-ee sins against language obv

I’ve never heard Fine as in fine, what are they feeding ye out there

Accentmonkey is neither former Meath nor former ILX!

― Andrew Farrell, Monday, March 9, 2020 4:11 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ehm, am I missing something here? Accentmonkey was a former ilxor. Or rather: there was a user named accentmonkey around for quite some time.

Finn-ants is hideous. So is Fianna FOY-IL.

Dyslexia will also do it, as per my sister's two eldest.

For the exception, not the fine.

i speak six different dialects of english meself, depending, so i mean

I mean, same, but usually within the same sentence, which can roll on out for days, alerting passing shipping.

xp need to know how you pronounce F tbh

She's still here, though I don't want to blow up her spot.

Deems upload your own clip of Fine Gael, I refuse to believe the evidence of my eyes

(ok that last may be a slight exaggeration)

xp oic

xxxxp is this a feck vs fuck thing?

one of the days ilx will hear my lilting tones

but twont be today

One of my proudest achievements living in the UK is the amount of Hiberno-Irish and just Irish picked up by the husband.

xp seachtó a seacht you coward

actually should we ever find that other thread iirc theres a recording of me reading a story to my niece in fact

meh i just dont like me voice tbrr

btw i blame ilx for my new habit of offhandedly calling mrs mac a coward for the smallest reason

xp to gyac it is weirdly hard to find a picture of Mr Tatyo giving a thumbs-up, particularly since that's one of the few hand gestures within his grasp - but imagine that here.

xp if ilx can hear my perpetually tired & cracked voice we can hear yours

xxxxp is this a feck vs fuck thing?

xxp the only Tayto I bend my knee to
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAJSP6R.img?h=400&w=286&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=243&y=386

The Irish

i believe the discussion about accent variation starts from here in this very thread

The midlands is a lottery

lol now i look at it, they didn't even bother with midlands- otm

drogheda would rival limerick if it weren't so comical, i mean how do you talk like that naturally.

When I say re my accent not being strong, I don’t mean the Irishness - I spend my life spelling out my name to people whenever I have to phone someone and full of “can you repeat that? the lines bad” - but the regional tags. Though I can thank my parents and my speech impediment (rip) for that.

xp you wont, the link is broke

pollagh is pronounced

PULL-a

ffs

at least you have that right

i bytimes ref the former future mrs mac, she was a pollagh girl so i got to know the place but twas never my neck of the island and ive less reason than ever to like it now

reupload the clip you coward

i will think about it

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wszzowjjfle63w9/Sound%20clip%2028.mp4?dl=0

thats the best i can do im afraid, had to open it outside of whatever dropbox wanted to use fwiw

drop the ? and everything subsequent, maybe

wheres sic when you need him

Haha this is cute! I was sad you didn’t attempt the cat noise yourself. You sound very much of the west but not in that slushy over-sibilant way some of the accents can tend to. Overall impression was young Bosco presenter, but a normal one, not one of the lads in adult dungarees. Also, you are clearly a v doting uncle.

^cosine

we moved around a bit, sher

and she was a cute kid, once

also if anything my cat noise is better than the automated one

drop the ? and everything subsequent, maybe

no you're grand

Did you go to Newgrange? I went there as a child but my only abiding memory is my dad getting sick outside. Would love to do winter solstice but imagine it’s incredibly difficult.

the lucky few are chosen by lottery, but it's always overcast anyway

https://www.newgrange.com/solstice-lottery.htm

You should definitely go though. It's a magical place (and they do a simulation of the solstice effect for every tour)

Nothing could explain the Irish and Russian mentalities better, and why we get on so well together, than the fact that Moscow “Irish Week” lasts for eleven days. pic.twitter.com/7ModMpUkv5

— Bryan MacDonald (@27khv) March 9, 2020

Guinness is a drink widely perceived as being “Irish”, in reality this couldn’t be further from the truth. Arthur Guinness was a unionist and a British informer working against the United Irishmen in 1798. In 1913, the Guinness family donated £100,000 to the UVF. pic.twitter.com/v2H5wNrwlG

— Imperialist Watch Ireland (@ImperialistWl) March 10, 2020

and still the use of the "" around irish there makes me want ta hint them down and beat them bloody

down with Guinness

bring back Breó!