The Irish

destroy: the current amurrican hard on for all things irish.

"Father Ted" was a load of arse-juice but the "D'unbelievables"...

Destroy: What Ned said about St. Paddy's in the USA, my ridiculous "Kiss Me I'm Irish" relatives: stop the Erin Go Bragh insanity please!, the Cranberries, Hothouse Flowers, the Troubles (wouldn't that be nice?).

I lurve leprechauns. And shamrock shakes.

Now, Irish Americans, that's *quite* a different story.

I love Ireland solely because of Guinness, Murphy's and Bailey's. I'm a lush.

Destroy: The food.

I believe it was Shane MacGowan once poignantly said: "Ertwas swillin' 'n' sllen/ inna mrsts o' Culcllan/ er pour me a-point o' whiskey t'day..."

My favorite Ireland memory: driving up the Conor Pass on the Dingle Peninsula, parking the car and hiking up a mountain. The view of the countryside, the ponds, the sheep and the sea was breathtaking, of course. But what was really remarkable was just how quiet it all was -- I could hear the grass crunching under my feet and I thought I was stepping on dried out grass, till I realized that it sounded so loud only because it was so quiet. I'd literally never "heard" silence like that before. I realized then how really loud even "quiet" moments are where I live, how there's always some sort of ambient noise in the background disrupting the perfect quiet. And then you just stand there, with the knockout view in the closest thing to perfect peace and quiet I'd ever experienced. Then you walk down and throw some money at the person playing some cliche Irish music on a harp at the foot of the hill.

destroy people who say: "I'm Irish, my mother's brother's budgie was bought from a pat shop in Galway"

paddy's night in Kilburn too, destroy that, even more so in Neasden.

search: Tony Cascarino

Anybody want to recommend some traditional Irish music? There's so much stuff out there and a lot of it looks terrible.

Ooops, sorry I thought this was an ILM thread 'cos I was on ILM and then I did a search and so I thought...I know...I am dumb.

And it's quite a late night for me.

'search' and 'destroy'? UMkay

Ned, not quite full blown trad....but you can't go wrong with Christy Moore.

Specifically, I'd recommend Planxty's 2004 (or is it 2005? I can't remember) live album, which is brilliant and has Christy Moore singing on it. Any one of the first four Chieftains albums are also top class. Martin Hayes is also very popular and good, and there's a great, great singer called Iarla O Lionaird who sings unaccompanied Irish songs. His voice is beautiful, but it can get a little wearing after a while if you don't understand what he's singing about.

The Dubliners ain't half bad either.

luke kelly.

also, what's with lack of WB Yeats love upthread?

Ned's question inspired me to dig out that Planxty 2004 album. It is GRATE.

Ned, not quite full blown trad....but you can't go wrong with Christy Moore.

My lord, the prosecution cites "Don't Forget Your Shovel".

search: Planxty's "The Well Below The Valley", if only for the title track.

My lord, the prosecution cites "Don't Forget Your Shovel".

Also "The Voyage", and his version of "Ride On".

xpost

If it's the same one the Devil's Interval do then it's got incest and 6 cases of abortion/infanticide, body count is the hallmark of a good folk song.

Planxty, yes - I only know the first three albums though. Also that Andy Irvine+Paul Brady album - in fact, is Andy Irvine famous? He's certainly not as famous as he should be! (He's also from London, of course!)I don't know as much about Irish music as I should.

yes well, not every track! I'm out of my depth here, and I've forgotten my shovel.

Planxty, yes - I only know the first three albums though. Also that Andy Irvine+Paul Brady album - in fact, is Andy Irvine famous?

he is famous enough, but maybe not as famous as he deserves to be. He plays live a lot in Whelans, and every time I go to see him I kick myself for not going to see him every time he plays, as he is awesome.

In a piece of inspired supportage, the first time I saw him was when he was supporting Will Oldham; a whole new generation of fans was born.

He is awesome. Everything I've ever heard him do, from Sweeney's Men onwards, has been great, and he always seems like the most talented and yet least well known in whatever setup he's involved in.

I think he is all about the music rather than about the self-promotion.

I love his song about how Ronnie Drew is actually a culchie.

CINCINNATI -- A man was caught Tuesday morning inside a car with his pants down.

Police said Kim Leblanc broke into a parked car overnight on Central Parkway, and the owner found him asleep inside and called police.

Officers said Leblanc was not wearing any pants when they arrived.

Investigators said Leblanc told them he had done drugs and believed that a leprechaun had let him into the car.

Leblanc remains in police custody on a variety of charges.

top scientist claims irish less intelligent than other ethnicities,

blames leprechaun influence.

Thieving Irish. Here's something funny: I'm American, and my grandfather raised us to be conscious of our Irish heritage. We just find out our Irish side actually came from England ... and had lived there for centuries before coming to the US, rather than actually coming here from Ireland during the potato/weird root tasting beer/cable knit sweater famine.

So what's the deal with that - English, Irish, what? I'm sure most of the people who claim Irish heritage here are less of Irish heritage than suspected.

http://www.dk-ink.com/AngelsRemembered/files/leprechaun.gif

Oh who knows. My family could care less about it, we're American...but my boyfriend's family is v v proudly Irish...except at this point all their relatives back home live in the Leith district of Edinburgh. At least they're all Hibs supporters!

um, hibs aren't the 'irish' team in scotland.

they are one of the Irish teams, as far as I know. especially if you live in Edinburgh. Scots may know better.

Hibs were the "Irish" team in Scotland before Celtic were.

If by "Irish" you mean "charitable club set up by members of the Catholic church to provide aid to poverty stricken Catholics who were mostly Irish immigrants" or something. Hibernian means Irish, doesn't it?

as a Connemara I can vouch for your dysentery story the water system here has been badly affected by corruption peaking with the crypto sporidium scandal in the early 00s that left large parts Galway with undrinkable tap water for years

it seems during the boom years lots of that money that was sloshing around in Ireland wasn't spent how it ought to have been

Never!

My name's on the Pontins blacklist, but I got into ATP 2016 under an assumed name and did loads of redacted so the joke's on them. Unless the joke is on me because half the headliners cancelled idk

Getting vaccines to all your friends, family and kids’ teachers, all while running a busy hospital? I wanna tell ya... try it sometime! pic.twitter.com/43HUyuJYI9

— jack (@jackalexe) March 30, 2021

i think to keep in mind the fact (it may of course be no fact at all but in art the construct is designed to fall away or to be concealed by the end result nest pas) that the 'ch' is well and good but it could as easily have been described as a 'gh'

the aaaauwwuuugh that calvin does the odd time might give an indication as to where the breathing is, an open gullet almost catching at the end of the emphasised nnTOIEE before the sharp 'ish' withdrawal that is rather akin to a kyokushinkai punch count

i hope that clears it up, at least as far as upper achill formal pronunciation goes. its different in newport, theyd rush it into toieeshuh which is no service to the word at all.

― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 14:25 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Its a wonder imo folens havent picked me up yet with notes like this

Hilarious story. What a prick.

Oh my. https://t.co/qT31iOh3b5

— Richard Chambers (@newschambers) May 6, 2021

This review is pretty scathing...

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/may/06/van-morrison-new-record-project-volume-one-review

He actually has a song called Why Are You on Facebook? lol

not trying to be a dick here Andy... but so much the wrong thread!

Sorry, sorry - in my mind they're already reunited

Never been sure where Sir George Ivan Morrison OBE stands on that particular subject tbh.

Wherever he stands, I'm sure it contains grumpy disdain

Think hes too fond of detesting absolutely everyone to take an actual side, not an awful approach tbh

I bet Petrdisis is fucking living it up on that one star review, now rock-crit graun finally has their own trump. Progress!

We knew this, they knew this, now the ruling says it.

NEW: An inquest has found that 10 people shot dead by the British Army in Ballymurphy in 1971 were innocent and their deaths were without justification.

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) May 11, 2021

The shootings, which the families refer to as "the Ballymurphy Massacre", happened immediately after the introduction of internment without trial in Northern Ireland.

Those who died were Joan Connolly, 44, Joseph Corr, 43, Edward Doherty, 31, John Laverty, 20, John McKerr, 49, Fr Hugh Mullan, 38, Joseph Murray, 41, Noel Phillips, 19, Frank Quinn, 19, and Daniel Teggart, 44.

No one has ever been charged or convicted in connection with any of their deaths. The original inquests in 1972 recorded open verdicts. However, fresh inquests were approved in 2011 following a lengthy campaign by the Ballymurphy families.

Pretty sure the UK government will be straining every fibre to ensure no-one is prosecuted.

There was supposed to be something in the Queen’s Speech about this today but it’s been dropped 🙃

I follow the Ógra Shinn Féin account and was very glad to see this news and that they unreservedly stand in solidarity with Palestine, unlike the cowardly UK Labour Party.

about time. very dubious that brit "justice" will do anything to the still-living perpetrators, but we live in hope

The official acknowledged must be hugely relieving to the families at the very least. I can’t imagine how it must have been, carrying that burden for so long and fighting for basic recognition like this. Infuriating, but inspiring that they kept it up and the truth, for once, prevailed.

"in the wake of an army operation" sets a new high bar for the passive voice https://t.co/HnpAvUoZwb

— Crowsa Luxemburg (@quendergeer) May 11, 2021

James Connolly was executed at Kilmainham Gaol #OnThisDay in 1916
His daughter, Nora Connolly, recalls the last time she saw her father.
This interview was recorded for 'Portraits 1916’ on 30 October 1965.https://t.co/hDYvSZ6FEn

— RTÉ Archives (@RTEArchives) May 12, 2021

They've been talking about having one in Edinburgh for years but I assume the fact that every Loyalist headbanger in Scotland (and beyond) would descend on it is I assume the problem. He was of course a massive Hibs fan!

Working Class Characters by Middle Class Filmmakers
w/ @dominic_machale pic.twitter.com/KBT7SOEYnS

— Tadhg (@TadhgHickey) May 24, 2021

this is quite amusing

Bottle of Bucky is a nice touch.

Very fond of Matt LeBlanc as your uncle https://twitter.com/i/events/1398905503434960898

too much hair and healthy skin complexion suggests teetotalism!

never wear a hat in Ireland y/n?

Props to anyone who tries to be fashionable in ireland i wore a red beret once in waterford and someone called me super mario

— lady of sophistication (@janky_jane) August 15, 2021

many gems in the replies

Was wearing a vintage nike jacket in a very long que for drinks at a boxing match when a Belfast lad goes “fuck me this is taking forever, your man has been here since the 80’s”

— Eoin O Neill (@eoinjoneill) August 17, 2021

I was walking across O'Connell Bridge one day in the Eighties when those little fabric hats with mirrors in them were popular. A guy in front of me was wearing one, and someone coming the other way just plucked it off his head and chucked it in the river.

I wore a suit with a matching tie and pocket square to my first day of work at an advertising company (I thought I was going to be in Mad Men I guess) and the staff sent around and signed a communion card for me with a fiver in it.

— Loic Wright (@duffles1) August 17, 2021

^that one was a clear "I definitely couldn't hack it in Ireland" message for me--your first day, my god

someone coming the other way just plucked it off his head and chucked it in the river

HOWLING!

is this anti-hat sentiment a known cultural attribute?

Fuck wearing a hat iirc

too true

Also wore out a pink fake fur collar on a jacket one time and my friend told me I looked like I was being born 🤣🤣🤣

— Áine Kav (@ainekavo) August 16, 2021

is this anti-hat sentiment a known cultural attribute?

Acceptable hats in Ireland: plain wool beanie, flat cap if you are a man, stetson if you are a country and western singer from the Midlands.

Broadly accurate id have said

One my colleagues had an ankle-length dark green serge greatcoat, and when he burst through the office doors one day, another looked up and said: "What news of Stalingrad?" 🤣

— Philip Nolan (@philipnolan1) August 16, 2021

Incitation to hatred in all its orange glory. Yet again. pic.twitter.com/P8ahE1gKVx

— 🐉🏇 🐲Marie Błð 🇮🇪 🏇🐉 (@EalaEarendel) August 29, 2021

lol, lets live on marmalade on stale warburtons bread to own the Republic, because of course it is entirely Ireland's fault that the Westminster govt royally fucked them over!

could see the temptation to dump even more things in the Liffey judging by some of the fashion faux pas and what is already in the river.
I take it they still haven't been moved to clean it, is it a tradition that it is that filthy. I actually worked on the bridge at the time the digital clock the Time In The Slime was in there and can remember how impossible it was to read cos of the dirt that was already in the river. I was talking about the Hudson being cleaned from the early 70s after it had been notoriously filthy over the weekend and that had me thinking about the Thames getting cleaned at roughly the same time. So was thinking about the Liffey and the likelihood that it would ever be cleaned.
Seemed that there was a move pretty much worldwide to recognise the importance of clean water in towns fro a webinar I attended a few months ago.
I also remeber precautions needing to be taken by all the swimmers in the Liffey swim which I think was supposed to be an annual event. THat one had to take a shower as soon as you got out of the river. Also that the clock had to be moved at great expense

also remember the pavement on that stretch of the O'Connel Bridge being a point where people would score quite conspicuously when i was first in town, possibly right up to the time taht the police cameras went up in 97.
Definitely saw pickpockets right in front of me as I sold posters.
But in those early years I was tehre you would see waves of people crossing the bridge and often staying pretty much in step as they crossed over to O'Connel st. & then you'd suddenly see a bunch of people going against the flow as they stopped to score. The Abrakebabra on Westmoreland st was also a notorious drug den or represented as such.

So I hear ye are all antisemites now?

To a point

The centrist slugs seem pretty sure they have the receipts

I mean, this is predictable. pic.twitter.com/Cnljmpbkez

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) October 11, 2021

so saying fuck the Brits is the new anti-Semitism?

these wankers should concentrate on their own fascists - there's enough of the fuckers. There are MI5 papers just released in the last 10-20 years on right-wing British MPs, peers, senior military figures etc that were involved in plots ("including espionage, sabotage, unlawful private attempts to broker peace deals between Germany and Britain") to install a pro-Hitler regime in London.

But beyond these are other files identified in the de-classified MI5 dossiers which have not been released to the National Archives. They relate to yet more aristocrats, MPs and military officers who worked on behalf of Germany during the war.

the background to this is Sally Rooney refused to allow a certain publisher to publish her work in Israel, which has been twisted into "Sally Rooney refuses to let her works be translated into Hebrew"

anti-imperialism is good

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBfwwfeXoAUfTLK?format=jpg&name=900x900

now that's all clarified there won't be another word on the subject.

up the roon'