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I am about as Irish as a Shamrock Shake, thanks to my Euromongrel background, but I have roots on both mom and dad's side and my family name derives from a town in County Kilkenny, so hey. Then there's our own Miss Kearney, of course. ;-) But above and beyond that and other folks like Ronan, there's the nation itself, where the list of Irish (and Anglo-Irish, true) artists in many fields runs on forever, regrettable interruptions like, say, Bono aside. So then -- a bunch of Guinness-soaked louts or a flowering of native Celtic genius that makes the English look like a passel of Hooray Henrys and who wisely escaped the UK's clutches to help make America the brilliant place it is?

Search: Flann O'Brien, Wilde of course, the Virgin Prunes, Father Ted.

Destroy: leprechauns, St. Patrick's Day-related idiocies in America.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Do bartenders in horrible phony Irish pubs in America ever draw anything in the head of a pulled pint of Guiness other than a shamrock? A pair of tits maybe.

Benjamin, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I can't believe you didn't mention Kevin Shields, Ned.

Michael Bourke, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

He's afraid Alan Mc G Burger might jump on this thread.

nathalie, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'd like to point out that I'm only a third Irish, you know. Hence the big ass. If I was 100% I wouldn't have that.

Ally, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

What Natalie said. Besides which, I thought by now I don't need to mention him, it's implicit. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

search: bad basement punk rock shows in dublin while on vacation where huge football thug dances around on stage before vomiting and passing out in the corner.

destroy: the current amurrican hard on for all things irish.

jess, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Kevin Rowland once said the Irish were "unnecessarily zealoius, if becoming" which kinda hit the nail on the head for me. I have a bit of a zealous streak myself which I have to keep in check because it's a bit shit really, isn't it?

"Father Ted" was a load of arse-juice but the "D'unbelievables"...

Michael Bourke, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Some Irish pple are nice, some Irish pple are not so nice.

jel, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Search: Neil Jordan, Beckett, Thin Lizzy, foxy Colin Farrell (ok Joel Schumacher, we'll let you live), Undertones, the rugged coastline

Destroy: What Ned said about St. Paddy's in the USA, my ridiculous "Kiss Me I'm Irish" relatives: stop the Erin Go Bragh insanity please!, the Cranberries, Hothouse Flowers, the Troubles (wouldn't that be nice?).

I lurve leprechauns. And shamrock shakes.

Brennan on the Moor, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

All the Irish pple I've met have been nice, lucky me.

Now, Irish Americans, that's *quite* a different story.

The Unicarn, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Irish soda bread is really good. If you mix Baileys with Kahlua, Amaretto and milk, you get a real solid drink.

Ally, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Mmm, toasted almond.

I love Ireland solely because of Guinness, Murphy's and Bailey's. I'm a lush.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Destroy: stinky Irish "cuisine". Thank god my mom's Italian, that's all I have to say...

Kerry, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Search: Celtic mythology. Oooh lord.

Lyra, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

U2, Guinness... um... hills and rain.

JM, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ethan is a Mick. So I've heard. He's also whisky. POP SHOTS.

Greg, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The worst Irish export is that smug bastard on Top Gear. And the IRA.

DG, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i'm the best mick ever.

ethan, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Search: Uniformed attire (i.e., white shirt, dark green or plaid skirts, etc.) of all the young women there...*whew* have mercy!

Destroy: The food.

I believe it was Shane MacGowan once poignantly said: "Ertwas swillin' 'n' sllen/ inna mrsts o' Culcllan/ er pour me a-point o' whiskey t'day..."

Joe, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I spent a week in Ireland (2 days in Northern Ireland, the remainder in the Republic) six years ago, and it was fabulous. Rented a car in Belfast and drove all over the place, ending up in Dublin. Sunny for 4 days out of the 7, too, which the locals said made me very lucky.

My favorite Ireland memory: driving up the Conor Pass on the Dingle Peninsula, parking the car and hiking up a mountain. The view of the countryside, the ponds, the sheep and the sea was breathtaking, of course. But what was really remarkable was just how quiet it all was -- I could hear the grass crunching under my feet and I thought I was stepping on dried out grass, till I realized that it sounded so loud only because it was so quiet. I'd literally never "heard" silence like that before. I realized then how really loud even "quiet" moments are where I live, how there's always some sort of ambient noise in the background disrupting the perfect quiet. And then you just stand there, with the knockout view in the closest thing to perfect peace and quiet I'd ever experienced. Then you walk down and throw some money at the person playing some cliche Irish music on a harp at the foot of the hill.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ah bejabers sure aren't we a grand aul bunch o praties?

DV, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Was it Shane Magowan, lifetime resident of North London (until recently, I think he has now moved to his spiritual home now) who said that then?

destroy people who say: "I'm Irish, my mother's brother's budgie was bought from a pat shop in Galway"

paddy's night in Kilburn too, destroy that, even more so in Neasden.

search: Tony Cascarino

cabbage, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

five years pass...

Anybody want to recommend some traditional Irish music? There's so much stuff out there and a lot of it looks terrible.

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 28 June 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Ooops, sorry I thought this was an ILM thread 'cos I was on ILM and then I did a search and so I thought...I know...I am dumb.

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 28 June 2007 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

And it's quite a late night for me.

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 28 June 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

'search' and 'destroy'? UMkay

humansuit, Thursday, 28 June 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned, not quite full blown trad....but you can't go wrong with Christy Moore.

Ronan, Friday, 29 June 2007 01:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Specifically, I'd recommend Planxty's 2004 (or is it 2005? I can't remember) live album, which is brilliant and has Christy Moore singing on it. Any one of the first four Chieftains albums are also top class. Martin Hayes is also very popular and good, and there's a great, great singer called Iarla O Lionaird who sings unaccompanied Irish songs. His voice is beautiful, but it can get a little wearing after a while if you don't understand what he's singing about.

accentmonkey, Friday, 29 June 2007 09:37 (seventeen years ago) link

The Dubliners ain't half bad either.

Ed, Friday, 29 June 2007 09:43 (seventeen years ago) link

luke kelly.

darraghmac, Friday, 29 June 2007 09:45 (seventeen years ago) link

also, what's with lack of WB Yeats love upthread?

darraghmac, Friday, 29 June 2007 09:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned's question inspired me to dig out that Planxty 2004 album. It is GRATE.

accentmonkey, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned, not quite full blown trad....but you can't go wrong with Christy Moore.

My lord, the prosecution cites "Don't Forget Your Shovel".

The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 29 June 2007 11:42 (seventeen years ago) link

search: Planxty's "The Well Below The Valley", if only for the title track.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 29 June 2007 11:43 (seventeen years ago) link

My lord, the prosecution cites "Don't Forget Your Shovel".

Also "The Voyage", and his version of "Ride On".

accentmonkey, Friday, 29 June 2007 11:44 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

If it's the same one the Devil's Interval do then it's got incest and 6 cases of abortion/infanticide, body count is the hallmark of a good folk song.

Ed, Friday, 29 June 2007 11:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Planxty, yes - I only know the first three albums though. Also that Andy Irvine+Paul Brady album - in fact, is Andy Irvine famous? He's certainly not as famous as he should be! (He's also from London, of course!)I don't know as much about Irish music as I should.

Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 11:49 (seventeen years ago) link

yes well, not every track! I'm out of my depth here, and I've forgotten my shovel.

Ronan, Friday, 29 June 2007 11:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Planxty, yes - I only know the first three albums though. Also that Andy Irvine+Paul Brady album - in fact, is Andy Irvine famous?

he is famous enough, but maybe not as famous as he deserves to be. He plays live a lot in Whelans, and every time I go to see him I kick myself for not going to see him every time he plays, as he is awesome.

In a piece of inspired supportage, the first time I saw him was when he was supporting Will Oldham; a whole new generation of fans was born.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

He is awesome. Everything I've ever heard him do, from Sweeney's Men onwards, has been great, and he always seems like the most talented and yet least well known in whatever setup he's involved in.

Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I think he is all about the music rather than about the self-promotion.

I love his song about how Ronnie Drew is actually a culchie.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 29 June 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...

CINCINNATI -- A man was caught Tuesday morning inside a car with his pants down.

Police said Kim Leblanc broke into a parked car overnight on Central Parkway, and the owner found him asleep inside and called police.

Officers said Leblanc was not wearing any pants when they arrived.

Investigators said Leblanc told them he had done drugs and believed that a leprechaun had let him into the car.

Leblanc remains in police custody on a variety of charges.

omar little, Thursday, 18 October 2007 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link

top scientist claims irish less intelligent than other ethnicities,

blames leprechaun influence.

darraghmac, Thursday, 18 October 2007 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Thieving Irish. Here's something funny: I'm American, and my grandfather raised us to be conscious of our Irish heritage. We just find out our Irish side actually came from England ... and had lived there for centuries before coming to the US, rather than actually coming here from Ireland during the potato/weird root tasting beer/cable knit sweater famine.

So what's the deal with that - English, Irish, what? I'm sure most of the people who claim Irish heritage here are less of Irish heritage than suspected.

http://www.dk-ink.com/AngelsRemembered/files/leprechaun.gif

burt_stanton, Friday, 19 October 2007 03:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh who knows. My family could care less about it, we're American...but my boyfriend's family is v v proudly Irish...except at this point all their relatives back home live in the Leith district of Edinburgh. At least they're all Hibs supporters!

Laurel, Friday, 19 October 2007 03:43 (sixteen years ago) link

um, hibs aren't the 'irish' team in scotland.

darraghmac, Friday, 19 October 2007 09:40 (sixteen years ago) link

they are one of the Irish teams, as far as I know. especially if you live in Edinburgh. Scots may know better.

Ronan, Friday, 19 October 2007 09:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Hibs were the "Irish" team in Scotland before Celtic were.

onimo, Friday, 19 October 2007 09:46 (sixteen years ago) link

If by "Irish" you mean "charitable club set up by members of the Catholic church to provide aid to poverty stricken Catholics who were mostly Irish immigrants" or something. Hibernian means Irish, doesn't it?

onimo, Friday, 19 October 2007 09:49 (sixteen years ago) link

a foot for every beor

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 12:32 (seven months ago) link

There is a Smith guy on the DNA database of the lab I used who it states is such a close match that he is a first cousin. I thought bullshit I'm not related to any Smiths. But then I looked at his family tree on the website and saw my mum's name on there and various uncles. Then I remembered my auntie Joan had a kid in the UK which she gave up for adoption before moving back to Dublin and this is him. I can't properly access this part of their DNA service because it's paywalled and I'm not paying for membership. But it does prove their lab work is legit.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 15:29 (seven months ago) link

Gonna be a fun time to be Irish again

A former British soldier, known as Soldier F, will stand trial for two murders and five attempted murders on Bloody Sunday. https://t.co/l1nvEbPFZr

— BBC News NI (@BBCNewsNI) December 14, 2023

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 14 December 2023 12:22 (seven months ago) link

NHS may struggle to cope with the upsurge in rage induced aneurysms

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 14 December 2023 12:25 (seven months ago) link

🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 14 December 2023 12:28 (seven months ago) link

some say the wheels of justice turn slowly - this is way too fucking slow.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 14 December 2023 13:31 (seven months ago) link

ford focus 2014

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 December 2023 14:40 (seven months ago) link

lol that was intended for my browser and not the add post box obv

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 December 2023 14:40 (seven months ago) link

congrats on your lottery win!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 14 December 2023 16:23 (seven months ago) link

yeah I'm going mad with it altogether alright

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 December 2023 16:28 (seven months ago) link

there should be a feature on messaging apps and social media that lets you opt out of receiving voice notes. like people should not even be able to begin to record one to you if you’re not in the mood. this is a good idea and i stand by it

— Beth McColl (@imbethmccoll) December 14, 2023



sorry but our people have, like the flavoured crisp, elevated voice notes to high art!

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 15 December 2023 00:04 (seven months ago) link

as someone who detests talking on the phone, I love sending and receiving voice notes

bit more personality than a text, none of the awkwardness of a phone call

Number None, Friday, 15 December 2023 09:21 (seven months ago) link

Exactly

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 15 December 2023 09:41 (seven months ago) link

it takes me like a week to listen to one

plax (ico), Friday, 15 December 2023 11:32 (seven months ago) link

yeah theyll sit there as a rule tbh

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 15 December 2023 11:33 (seven months ago) link

That’s the biggest lie I ever heard Mr “I’m going to the random back of beyond will one of ye do a voice note for the car” Mac

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 15 December 2023 11:55 (seven months ago) link

wtf no realnames

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 15 December 2023 13:56 (seven months ago) link

Knick knack darraghmac
Listen to your phone
The Mayo curse
Is well known

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 15 December 2023 14:00 (seven months ago) link

that last line probably scans using offaly vowels does it

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 15 December 2023 14:03 (seven months ago) link

I’ll send you a voice note to confirm

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 15 December 2023 14:05 (seven months ago) link

*searches for "report harassment" button*

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 15 December 2023 16:39 (seven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

so not to be a buzzkill but what survives of english folklore in those areas of the country amounts to 'don't go in the bog, don't talk to anyone you meet in the bog, take nothing you find in the bog' and in that one specific area of my life I am a firm traditionalist https://t.co/4SXKTM8PnC

— Oliver Darkshire 🌈 (@deathbybadger) January 8, 2024



Agreeing with this person but slightly differently; the bog is fucking eerie. I grew up hearing stories about people who fell in bog holes, we’re all aware of human sacrifices and bog bodies, I cannot imagine a single bog I would willingly spend time in after dark even if it was floodlit like a stadium.

It’s like fairy forts: just don’t.

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 8 January 2024 14:28 (six months ago) link

having accidentally stepped onto a bog I don't advise it (alarming)

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 8 January 2024 15:30 (six months ago) link

They’re scary! I was watching that video and thinking of the time I was ten and stepped on what looked like solid ground, you honestly can’t tell what’s under the surface a lot of the time

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 8 January 2024 15:53 (six months ago) link

three weeks pass...

is st brigids day getting bigger

is it getting /weirder/

or did i just move local+ its a big anniversary

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 February 2024 09:17 (five months ago) link

can't say I've noticed any additional pageantry myself

Number None, Thursday, 1 February 2024 09:28 (five months ago) link

local phenomenon so

two bands are separately closing in on a well here, honest to god the cops are escortinf them, its got potential to be that monthy python sketch where the womens guild re-enacts the batgle of bosworth etc

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 February 2024 12:23 (five months ago) link

"In her honour, a perpetual fire was kept burning at Kildare for centuries"

they got bored with the perpetual fire after a few centuries

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 1 February 2024 12:29 (five months ago) link

is st brigids day getting bigger

is it getting /weirder/

or did i just move local+ its a big anniversary


did ye not make the little crosses from the rushes in your school

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 1 February 2024 12:51 (five months ago) link

yes

this lot look like they might start nailing elves and pixies to them

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 February 2024 13:37 (five months ago) link

Well you know my feelings about interfering with the little people

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 1 February 2024 13:39 (five months ago) link

Bridget is the saint of abortion this is a REPEAL thing

plax (ico), Thursday, 1 February 2024 14:49 (five months ago) link

as always i think you have hit the heart of it

brigid is a REMAINER

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 February 2024 23:05 (five months ago) link

Ty

plax (ico), Friday, 2 February 2024 17:07 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

That Jack and Alice programme on Channel 4 is not good, but it was cute to see Domhnall Gleeson pretending to do chemistry while quietly singing "Tá Teidí ag Rith."

trishyb, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 13:44 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

Limerick man has some thoughts on a 3 bed semi-detached for sale in Clontarf. pic.twitter.com/DrV78jgK9W

— Tull McAdoo (@TullMcAdoo) March 29, 2024

some interesting thoughts on the housing market

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 March 2024 14:02 (three months ago) link

Deems what the fuck is this

get out and have a laugh pic.twitter.com/ItS6Jo5ypQ

— Subprime 🧱 (@sbprme) April 4, 2024

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 April 2024 10:13 (three months ago) link

Caolán Hunt?

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 April 2024 10:44 (three months ago) link

the fuck am i being held responsible for her that fella is clearly from malahide

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 5 April 2024 11:06 (three months ago) link

Obsolutely sending it

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 April 2024 11:16 (three months ago) link

lødz

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 5 April 2024 11:17 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...
two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgtL1pWdbYA

Number None, Friday, 17 May 2024 16:12 (two months ago) link

Bop of the summer.

trishyb, Friday, 17 May 2024 16:42 (two months ago) link

banger

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 17 May 2024 22:45 (two months ago) link

tír gan rapping kids tír gan anam

that's that me: a Viking (seandalai), Saturday, 18 May 2024 17:46 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

The Irish Foreign Minister (Tánaiste) Michéal Martin has also spoken to new Northern Ireland Secretary Hilary Benn.


Cannot articulate why I find this earnest but inaccurate attempt so funny

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 July 2024 22:26 (two weeks ago) link

The Irish dish of mashed potatoes with cabbage (Tánaiste)

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 6 July 2024 11:59 (one week ago) link

Naw this is so funny. Some yank head bopping along to the Orange Order wearing a tricolour bracelet calling them an Irish parade pic.twitter.com/zGrKHVjtBx

— Stiv 🌸 (@StivUTLR) July 7, 2024

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 8 July 2024 12:07 (one week ago) link

That surely has to be a joke (Tánaiste).

trishyb, Monday, 8 July 2024 12:46 (one week ago) link


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