The Irish

destroy: the current amurrican hard on for all things irish.

"Father Ted" was a load of arse-juice but the "D'unbelievables"...

Destroy: What Ned said about St. Paddy's in the USA, my ridiculous "Kiss Me I'm Irish" relatives: stop the Erin Go Bragh insanity please!, the Cranberries, Hothouse Flowers, the Troubles (wouldn't that be nice?).

I lurve leprechauns. And shamrock shakes.

Now, Irish Americans, that's *quite* a different story.

I love Ireland solely because of Guinness, Murphy's and Bailey's. I'm a lush.

Destroy: The food.

I believe it was Shane MacGowan once poignantly said: "Ertwas swillin' 'n' sllen/ inna mrsts o' Culcllan/ er pour me a-point o' whiskey t'day..."

My favorite Ireland memory: driving up the Conor Pass on the Dingle Peninsula, parking the car and hiking up a mountain. The view of the countryside, the ponds, the sheep and the sea was breathtaking, of course. But what was really remarkable was just how quiet it all was -- I could hear the grass crunching under my feet and I thought I was stepping on dried out grass, till I realized that it sounded so loud only because it was so quiet. I'd literally never "heard" silence like that before. I realized then how really loud even "quiet" moments are where I live, how there's always some sort of ambient noise in the background disrupting the perfect quiet. And then you just stand there, with the knockout view in the closest thing to perfect peace and quiet I'd ever experienced. Then you walk down and throw some money at the person playing some cliche Irish music on a harp at the foot of the hill.

destroy people who say: "I'm Irish, my mother's brother's budgie was bought from a pat shop in Galway"

paddy's night in Kilburn too, destroy that, even more so in Neasden.

search: Tony Cascarino

Anybody want to recommend some traditional Irish music? There's so much stuff out there and a lot of it looks terrible.

Ooops, sorry I thought this was an ILM thread 'cos I was on ILM and then I did a search and so I thought...I know...I am dumb.

And it's quite a late night for me.

'search' and 'destroy'? UMkay

Ned, not quite full blown trad....but you can't go wrong with Christy Moore.

Specifically, I'd recommend Planxty's 2004 (or is it 2005? I can't remember) live album, which is brilliant and has Christy Moore singing on it. Any one of the first four Chieftains albums are also top class. Martin Hayes is also very popular and good, and there's a great, great singer called Iarla O Lionaird who sings unaccompanied Irish songs. His voice is beautiful, but it can get a little wearing after a while if you don't understand what he's singing about.

The Dubliners ain't half bad either.

luke kelly.

also, what's with lack of WB Yeats love upthread?

Ned's question inspired me to dig out that Planxty 2004 album. It is GRATE.

Ned, not quite full blown trad....but you can't go wrong with Christy Moore.

My lord, the prosecution cites "Don't Forget Your Shovel".

search: Planxty's "The Well Below The Valley", if only for the title track.

My lord, the prosecution cites "Don't Forget Your Shovel".

Also "The Voyage", and his version of "Ride On".

xpost

If it's the same one the Devil's Interval do then it's got incest and 6 cases of abortion/infanticide, body count is the hallmark of a good folk song.

Planxty, yes - I only know the first three albums though. Also that Andy Irvine+Paul Brady album - in fact, is Andy Irvine famous? He's certainly not as famous as he should be! (He's also from London, of course!)I don't know as much about Irish music as I should.

yes well, not every track! I'm out of my depth here, and I've forgotten my shovel.

Planxty, yes - I only know the first three albums though. Also that Andy Irvine+Paul Brady album - in fact, is Andy Irvine famous?

he is famous enough, but maybe not as famous as he deserves to be. He plays live a lot in Whelans, and every time I go to see him I kick myself for not going to see him every time he plays, as he is awesome.

In a piece of inspired supportage, the first time I saw him was when he was supporting Will Oldham; a whole new generation of fans was born.

He is awesome. Everything I've ever heard him do, from Sweeney's Men onwards, has been great, and he always seems like the most talented and yet least well known in whatever setup he's involved in.

I think he is all about the music rather than about the self-promotion.

I love his song about how Ronnie Drew is actually a culchie.

CINCINNATI -- A man was caught Tuesday morning inside a car with his pants down.

Police said Kim Leblanc broke into a parked car overnight on Central Parkway, and the owner found him asleep inside and called police.

Officers said Leblanc was not wearing any pants when they arrived.

Investigators said Leblanc told them he had done drugs and believed that a leprechaun had let him into the car.

Leblanc remains in police custody on a variety of charges.

top scientist claims irish less intelligent than other ethnicities,

blames leprechaun influence.

Thieving Irish. Here's something funny: I'm American, and my grandfather raised us to be conscious of our Irish heritage. We just find out our Irish side actually came from England ... and had lived there for centuries before coming to the US, rather than actually coming here from Ireland during the potato/weird root tasting beer/cable knit sweater famine.

So what's the deal with that - English, Irish, what? I'm sure most of the people who claim Irish heritage here are less of Irish heritage than suspected.

http://www.dk-ink.com/AngelsRemembered/files/leprechaun.gif

Oh who knows. My family could care less about it, we're American...but my boyfriend's family is v v proudly Irish...except at this point all their relatives back home live in the Leith district of Edinburgh. At least they're all Hibs supporters!

um, hibs aren't the 'irish' team in scotland.

they are one of the Irish teams, as far as I know. especially if you live in Edinburgh. Scots may know better.

Hibs were the "Irish" team in Scotland before Celtic were.

If by "Irish" you mean "charitable club set up by members of the Catholic church to provide aid to poverty stricken Catholics who were mostly Irish immigrants" or something. Hibernian means Irish, doesn't it?

bono isn't even catholic iirc?

my mum said once when she was driving her sister Joan from Dublin to Kilbrew she pointed at a very grand house somewhere and said that's where Bono grew up, but she said it was nothing on the mansion the Coyle's of Tayto crisps fame lived in! It wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't catholic.

I just googled, catholic dad, protestant mum, grew up going to church of Ireland, went to a catholic primary school and a protestant secondary.

classic centrist twat!

my mum has an obsession with the Coyle family because at some point they wanted to adopt her and save her from her freerolling not very good parents who used to go missing for weeks, but it didn't happen and she ended up in the care of an industrial school instead!

christ, that's unfortunate.

when I was talking to her earlier she says her brother (who died earlier this year of prostate cancer) who represented + organised of dozens industrial school survivors in taking their case against the Catholic church has left his archive of interviews and documents related to that casework to Sheffield University.

All this trolling of Bono on Twitter today is really unfair. He went through enough in Long Kesh. pic.twitter.com/jskRl4VBPH

— Patricia MacBride (@IRLPatricia) October 7, 2020

big shout out to the historically racist housing policies in islington council that have left a large enough irish population in my neighbourhood that sainsburys stocks barmbrack.

Plax I’m wildly jealous. N7? The oifig an phoist there was full of seandaoine the day I visited.

lol just the angel sainsburys

how good is brack tho

no ring unfor

I don’t like brack tbh tbh but I’ve been to that angel many many times

However I will tell you I introduced the other half to purple snacks over lockdown and he’s a fan. Like so many things though, they’re not as nice as they used to be.

tempted to try the shop in the irish centre a go someday soon

would love a purple snack, if you could get a purple snack

You can buy 3 6-packs on Amazon for £10, not great but cheaper than the last time I bought them at home.

But I’ve wanted to go to that shop for ages, will you see if they have Polo biscuits? I really miss them.

will report. i suspect its just cidona taytos and that ballymaloe stuff

find me somewhere in london that sells annascaul black pudding and i'll be really impressed

Love this story

Priests have said they are upset by the "very hurtful criticism" of "mass-hoppers" who go from one online mass to another passing comments over their "performances".https://t.co/GqTjbDLIax

— Independent.ie (@Independent_ie) November 10, 2020

According to Fr Tim Hazelwood, a spokesman for the Association of Catholic Priests (ACP), which represents over 1,000 Irish priests, "mass-hoppers" are undermining many priests who are already self-conscious and are "not performers".

I heard there was a suggestion that Xmas be moved to late January to help combat Covid.
I was buying bread and this story came on the news on the radio while i was doing so.
So that's it then. Canceled Ester and all the oher parades this year.
Bah humbug

masshoppers need not apply xp

The thing is this is just the kind of stuff that goes on in a lot of households, but can’t imagine it’s much fun hearing the unfiltered verdict of a critical Irish granny.

It goes on in the church hall over a cup of tea ten minutes after communion.

I remember a local priest having a following. he was moved to my old parish when it came free upon the death of the old priest, he brought a following with him from the other parish, as in tens of people, and gave all the lay person roles like sacristan etc to members of this group. a lot of the locals didn't rate him, but some fell under his spell

so many priest are fucking shit at saying mass. lots of nervous ones who can't hold eye contact

The flashy ones are going to set up their own Padréon accounts.

I feel sick, I feel sick, we are in hell.

An MP stood in the House of Commons today and called a man that was shot dead in front of his wife and children “the IRAs solicitor of choice” and it hasn’t caused a ripple over there.

I still can’t get over it

— Seána (@GrantSana) November 30, 2020

Was chatting shit about the wrong fucking party as well, but hey, Paddies right

I'm not in Sinn Féin and I think what the government have done is a total disgrace. Do you think it's OK for a government to murder it's own citizens then refuse a proper inquiry into that murder @LordIanAustin ? https://t.co/M10M1MQ9ZN

— Colum Eastwood (@columeastwood) November 30, 2020

Lord Ian Austin. Horrible cunt.

I think that the British establishment is moving away from being able to handle a topic like finucanes murder and the surrounding collusion at light speed tbh, the bloody Sunday apology feels like it's likely to be an anomaly in so many ways

Yes. Have tried not to think about it much all day because I might cry when I do

fucking Baron Ian Austin makes Frank Field (who was good friends with Thatcher) seem like a moderate, a sickening little creep.

As a QC who specialised in human rights issues, it’s very odd that the leader of the Opposition at Westminster, Keir Starmer, hasn’t said a word about the Govt’s failure to announce a public inquiry into the state’s illegal killing of a fellow human rights lawyer. Remarkable even

— Chris Hazzard (@ChrisHazzardSF) December 1, 2020

the diminutive dog-shagger Austin deleted his Finucane tweet, even some of horrible tory friends said he was trying a bit too hard.

Has the man ever spoken for the nation so well?

Same. pic.twitter.com/987xdfc7G3

— Gavan Reilly (@gavreilly) December 2, 2020

sounds dope rly

He sounds sincere tbf

As sincere as I’ve ever seen him

Newgrange stream from 8.45 here

loved this

got a result this morning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esAkRoqjKx4

I had an early meeting this morning so I’m sorry to have missed this one, but I’ve loved watching this week. It really makes you feel privileged to be able to witness it.

I feel like Newgrange is somehow underrated? Like everyone knows about it, you learn about it in school, and it's just always...there. But when you go and stand in that chamber and feel the actual weight of history above you... It's magical

On the first stream, when they had a beautiful clear day and the sun was entering the chamber, they had a lovely shot of the “sun dagger” from above and your man said “when i see this, the word ‘immutable’ comes to mind, in other words we are touching the ancestors, and we are experiencing something that five thousand years ago was similarly experienced”.

But when you go and stand in that chamber and feel the actual weight of history above you... It's magical

The lack of development around it is great as well. When you go and stand on that hill and there isn't a major road in sight or a housing estate, or anything beyond a few farms, it's beautiful.

Anne Rabbitte at it again, I see.

In April 2019, Rabbitte criticised plans to excavate the site of the former Bon Secours Mother and Baby Home in Tuam, describing it as "a wilful waste of public money", and questioned if the intention was to dig up every cillín (burial ground for stillborn and unbaptized infants) in Ireland.

Rabbitte: "As a mother I wonder what sort of societal pressure I'd have to be under to turn my back on my children… society must be responsible for forcing the hands of these families… the circle of blame is vast"

— Gavan Reilly (@gavreilly) January 12, 2021

If RTÉ replaced the Angelus with a minute dedicated to someone who died in the M&BH, one day dedicated per each individual, that would be 25 years for the babies alone

— Suzie (@leninjapirate) January 12, 2021

Fuck

Yep.