The Irish

destroy: the current amurrican hard on for all things irish.

"Father Ted" was a load of arse-juice but the "D'unbelievables"...

Destroy: What Ned said about St. Paddy's in the USA, my ridiculous "Kiss Me I'm Irish" relatives: stop the Erin Go Bragh insanity please!, the Cranberries, Hothouse Flowers, the Troubles (wouldn't that be nice?).

I lurve leprechauns. And shamrock shakes.

Now, Irish Americans, that's *quite* a different story.

I love Ireland solely because of Guinness, Murphy's and Bailey's. I'm a lush.

Destroy: The food.

I believe it was Shane MacGowan once poignantly said: "Ertwas swillin' 'n' sllen/ inna mrsts o' Culcllan/ er pour me a-point o' whiskey t'day..."

My favorite Ireland memory: driving up the Conor Pass on the Dingle Peninsula, parking the car and hiking up a mountain. The view of the countryside, the ponds, the sheep and the sea was breathtaking, of course. But what was really remarkable was just how quiet it all was -- I could hear the grass crunching under my feet and I thought I was stepping on dried out grass, till I realized that it sounded so loud only because it was so quiet. I'd literally never "heard" silence like that before. I realized then how really loud even "quiet" moments are where I live, how there's always some sort of ambient noise in the background disrupting the perfect quiet. And then you just stand there, with the knockout view in the closest thing to perfect peace and quiet I'd ever experienced. Then you walk down and throw some money at the person playing some cliche Irish music on a harp at the foot of the hill.

destroy people who say: "I'm Irish, my mother's brother's budgie was bought from a pat shop in Galway"

paddy's night in Kilburn too, destroy that, even more so in Neasden.

search: Tony Cascarino

Anybody want to recommend some traditional Irish music? There's so much stuff out there and a lot of it looks terrible.

Ooops, sorry I thought this was an ILM thread 'cos I was on ILM and then I did a search and so I thought...I know...I am dumb.

And it's quite a late night for me.

'search' and 'destroy'? UMkay

Ned, not quite full blown trad....but you can't go wrong with Christy Moore.

Specifically, I'd recommend Planxty's 2004 (or is it 2005? I can't remember) live album, which is brilliant and has Christy Moore singing on it. Any one of the first four Chieftains albums are also top class. Martin Hayes is also very popular and good, and there's a great, great singer called Iarla O Lionaird who sings unaccompanied Irish songs. His voice is beautiful, but it can get a little wearing after a while if you don't understand what he's singing about.

The Dubliners ain't half bad either.

luke kelly.

also, what's with lack of WB Yeats love upthread?

Ned's question inspired me to dig out that Planxty 2004 album. It is GRATE.

Ned, not quite full blown trad....but you can't go wrong with Christy Moore.

My lord, the prosecution cites "Don't Forget Your Shovel".

search: Planxty's "The Well Below The Valley", if only for the title track.

My lord, the prosecution cites "Don't Forget Your Shovel".

Also "The Voyage", and his version of "Ride On".

xpost

If it's the same one the Devil's Interval do then it's got incest and 6 cases of abortion/infanticide, body count is the hallmark of a good folk song.

Planxty, yes - I only know the first three albums though. Also that Andy Irvine+Paul Brady album - in fact, is Andy Irvine famous? He's certainly not as famous as he should be! (He's also from London, of course!)I don't know as much about Irish music as I should.

yes well, not every track! I'm out of my depth here, and I've forgotten my shovel.

Planxty, yes - I only know the first three albums though. Also that Andy Irvine+Paul Brady album - in fact, is Andy Irvine famous?

he is famous enough, but maybe not as famous as he deserves to be. He plays live a lot in Whelans, and every time I go to see him I kick myself for not going to see him every time he plays, as he is awesome.

In a piece of inspired supportage, the first time I saw him was when he was supporting Will Oldham; a whole new generation of fans was born.

He is awesome. Everything I've ever heard him do, from Sweeney's Men onwards, has been great, and he always seems like the most talented and yet least well known in whatever setup he's involved in.

I think he is all about the music rather than about the self-promotion.

I love his song about how Ronnie Drew is actually a culchie.

CINCINNATI -- A man was caught Tuesday morning inside a car with his pants down.

Police said Kim Leblanc broke into a parked car overnight on Central Parkway, and the owner found him asleep inside and called police.

Officers said Leblanc was not wearing any pants when they arrived.

Investigators said Leblanc told them he had done drugs and believed that a leprechaun had let him into the car.

Leblanc remains in police custody on a variety of charges.

top scientist claims irish less intelligent than other ethnicities,

blames leprechaun influence.

Thieving Irish. Here's something funny: I'm American, and my grandfather raised us to be conscious of our Irish heritage. We just find out our Irish side actually came from England ... and had lived there for centuries before coming to the US, rather than actually coming here from Ireland during the potato/weird root tasting beer/cable knit sweater famine.

So what's the deal with that - English, Irish, what? I'm sure most of the people who claim Irish heritage here are less of Irish heritage than suspected.

http://www.dk-ink.com/AngelsRemembered/files/leprechaun.gif

Oh who knows. My family could care less about it, we're American...but my boyfriend's family is v v proudly Irish...except at this point all their relatives back home live in the Leith district of Edinburgh. At least they're all Hibs supporters!

um, hibs aren't the 'irish' team in scotland.

they are one of the Irish teams, as far as I know. especially if you live in Edinburgh. Scots may know better.

Hibs were the "Irish" team in Scotland before Celtic were.

If by "Irish" you mean "charitable club set up by members of the Catholic church to provide aid to poverty stricken Catholics who were mostly Irish immigrants" or something. Hibernian means Irish, doesn't it?

I found it. The worst take. pic.twitter.com/oKLt7YnPnU

— Liam Hogan (@Limerick1914) May 31, 2020

and the replies particularly this thread

COME OUT, YE BLACK AND TANS
COME OUT, DEBATE ME MAN TO MAN

— 🐟🎄The Christmas Fish🎄🐟 (@TheXmasFish) May 31, 2020

Nelson Mandela founded the armed wing of the ANC, you dingbat. https://t.co/WGuad7OKLU

— Ash Sarkar (@AyoCaesar) June 1, 2020

reminds me of this, when history is Duntified by moronic libs!

Fuck offfffff
https://www.thejournal.ie/uk-court-family-irish-phrase-grave-headstone-5112813-Jun2020/

UK church asks family to translate Irish phrase on mum's grave amid concerns it could be 'seen as political'
Judge Stephen Eyre said non-Gaeilgeoirs might think the phrase was “some form of slogan”.

WTF? Plus a Church Court? Oh, right, it's Church of England.

absolute fuckin shitshow

I mean I'd never bet against it, but was there something in particular...?

Your man from labour falling asleep during a vote on workers rights wasn’t it

Imagine earning a TDs salary to go in & fall asleep at work. https://t.co/F8254sDK0Y

— Daithi K. (@tvcritics) July 16, 2020

this?

oh no I think that is US, but I got it off an Irish poster!

oh no scratch that it is Eamon Ryan from the green party and some other twat

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-15/apple-wins-eu-court-fight-over-14-9-billion-tax-bill

Fg are landlords and thugs

Which fucking prick wrote this????

https://theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/20/the-guardian-view-on-irish-politics-an-enviable-beauty-is-born

The new nation is the Irish Republic.

Before Brexit and Mr Johnson, Ireland might have taken an informal cue on handling the pandemic from its larger and richer neighbour.

Where is this leading? The coalition has a clear majority. All three parties voted decisively for it.

The post-pandemic reopening of pubs this week has had to be pushed back because of a spike in cases.

This is nevertheless a salutary moment. Step by step, Ireland’s old nationalist politics, shaped by Britain in so many ways, have moved on.

Ireland is prospering by doing things more rationally and in ways that are firmly rooted in the state’s membership of multilateral institutions. The many in these islands who yearn for Britain to do likewise can only look on as, in Ireland, an enviable beauty is born.

Deems (bless his soul) would've thrown that report straight into this thread

#yearnforbritain

Lol, was wondering when that guardian article would show up here!

The civil rights campaigner, Nobel Peace Prize winner and SDLP stalwart died at Owen Mor nursing home in his beloved Derry after a short illness.

One of the most influential figures in the modern history of this island. pic.twitter.com/6uhD0EOrWy

— Richard Chambers (@newschambers) August 3, 2020

The great love of his life, his wife Pat, said in 2018 that John Hume didn't remember much of what he achieved in his life - Sunningdale, the Anglo-Irish Agreement, the Good Friday Agreement.

It is a testament to his brilliance, that the island will never forget that work.

— Richard Chambers (@newschambers) August 3, 2020

Some people ask, “what makes you proud to be Irish? The culture, the music, the superior dairy products?” While these are all good shouts, the only true answer is “ilxors are unconsciously picking and using Hiberno-Irish, thereby confirming it as the site’s prestige dialect.”

ha, haven't noticed this. I'll keep an eye out

…the plot thickens:

Montreal!

Book Group: They're reading Helen DeWitt's "The Last Samurai" (nothing to do with the Tom Cruise movie!) over at Conversational Reading - Maybe we should do the same here?

Love and hate this depressing incestuous country and its cronyism

#Golfgate is more than the dinner itself. It's a perfect illustration of how cosy Ireland's elite are together - high court judge, former political journalist on Ireland's public service broadcaster, TD's, Senators, banking lobbyists and "good" families, all sitting down together

— Sorcha Ní Aoláin (@SJTHolland) August 21, 2020

I feel there might now be popular support for my platform of attendees to Oireachtas Golf Society events to be greeted by machine-gun fire - the problem is maintaining that support next year if Covid is no longer an issue.

There will be a lot of people thinking "The politicians giving out about this are jealous that they weren't there".

Also, they're not entirely wrong there.

I mean, yeah? Look at the names, that’s a pretty good list of your typical room where the decisions get made.

Taken by David Minihane off Castletownbere on Monday. Just wait for it...... pic.twitter.com/naumi7E7Xn

— Cork Beo (@corkbeo) August 22, 2020

whale say hi to me

i'm going to ireland in a couple of weeks! literally years since i was there not during christmas although this may obviously be in lieu of

Are you watching the ESB ad or wha

But also, why do you go home so infrequently? Don’t answer if personal, obviously.

lol can't be arsed!

ireland or marseille this summer? hmmm

Meanwhile in Ireland

#Breaking The Cabinet is to self-isolate and the Dáil has been adjourned following news that Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly is unwell and being tested for Covid-19

— RTÉ News (@rtenews) September 15, 2020

Big shouts to Irish-America for the sharp intake of breath you just coerced me into having pic.twitter.com/QEiCT3p7Sb

— Myles na gCovid-19. (@EXECUTIVESTEVE) September 16, 2020

Obsessed with O’Neill’s in Soho actively choosing to tell this story of terminal cultural decline pic.twitter.com/kfaKhF13hg

— Sean Bernard (@seanbgoneill) September 18, 2020

I stayed in a Travelodge in swords last night and was so desperate for shit Irish telly I ended up watching all two hours of an episode of Maura and daithi from 2019

On YouTube (the TV was broken)

There is, of course, previous between our island and The Economist:

In deeply Protestant England, they think a German woman has magic blood and throw money at her and her dogs to live in huge palaces whilst their children go hungry https://t.co/FE3ddvC8wp

— The Man Don't Give A... (@JurassicArse) September 22, 2020

the people, rapidly increasing, have been reduced, by acts for which they are chiefly to blame, to a sole reliance on the precarious crop of potatoes. It would be unjust to Ireland – it would be a neglect of a great duty which is imposed on us at this time – if we did not point to this calamity, assuming as it does this aggravated form, as in a great measure the natural result of that crime which has precluded the people from other available resources. That the innocent suffer with the guilty, is a melancholy truth, but it is one of the great conditions on which all society exists. Every breach of the laws of morality and social order brings its own punishment and inconvenience. Where there is not perfect security, there cannot be prosperity. This is the first law of civilization.

In fairness, her, her dad and her grandad are English, and Buckingham Palace is publicly owned so the UK is her landlord and kinda required to discharge its duties as such. If we're going to go after rich people for not contributing, she's waaaaay down the list.

— FalanxZealot (@FalanxZ) September 22, 2020

P good comeback 2 this

Not really

No I mean the reply to that reply. Why am I posting replies idk I suck today

Oh yes i definitely laughed at that, he’s one of the best accounts on the godforsaken site

Jon Bon Jovi on Armchair Podcast speaking about how his upbringing was different to Bono "I didn't have Orangemen walking through his neighborhood saying get the Catholic kid and beat him up"

— [Dave Leahy] (@daveleahy) October 6, 2020

lool!

lolol

We Now Go Live To Finglas. pic.twitter.com/L0j7qCHeGb

— Féach News (@_FeachNews) October 6, 2020

bono isn't even catholic iirc?

my mum said once when she was driving her sister Joan from Dublin to Kilbrew she pointed at a very grand house somewhere and said that's where Bono grew up, but she said it was nothing on the mansion the Coyle's of Tayto crisps fame lived in! It wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't catholic.

I just googled, catholic dad, protestant mum, grew up going to church of Ireland, went to a catholic primary school and a protestant secondary.

classic centrist twat!

my mum has an obsession with the Coyle family because at some point they wanted to adopt her and save her from her freerolling not very good parents who used to go missing for weeks, but it didn't happen and she ended up in the care of an industrial school instead!

christ, that's unfortunate.

when I was talking to her earlier she says her brother (who died earlier this year of prostate cancer) who represented + organised of dozens industrial school survivors in taking their case against the Catholic church has left his archive of interviews and documents related to that casework to Sheffield University.

All this trolling of Bono on Twitter today is really unfair. He went through enough in Long Kesh. pic.twitter.com/jskRl4VBPH

— Patricia MacBride (@IRLPatricia) October 7, 2020